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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 12, 2014 12:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Some basic planetary/angular meanings in connection with Vx/Avx:


The Vertex and Anti-Vertex in Synastry

When your Vertex is contacted by another person’s planet or point, a fated relationship is indicated. In my article which looked at common Synastry Aspects in the charts of married couples, I noticed the Vertex and/or Anti-Vertex of at least one of the partners was often activated. Strong Vertex and Anti-Vertex aspects in the Composite chart also indicate a fated union. Indeed, Composite Charts featuring a Vertex/Descendant conjunction are common among married, fated, “meant-to-be” relationships.

What is the difference between the Vertex and Anti-Vertex? The Vertex is considered a “second Ascendant,” while the Anti-Vertex is considered a “second Descendant.” As such, Vertex connections in synastry signify a highly personal connection. Some astrologers have said that the Anti-Vertex is less significant than the Vertex, but based on personal experience, as well as my observations of other synastry charts, I disagree. Perhaps these astrologers the Vertex is stronger in synastry because it is always found in someone’s 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or 9th houses, which are the houses that represent our relationships with “others.” Having someone else’s planets in these houses (especially the 5th, 7th, and 8thhouses), conjunct the Vertex or not, indicate a high level of compatibility and intimacy. The Anti-Vertex, on the other hand, is located in the opposite house of the Vertex (the 11th, 12th, 1st, 2nd, or 3rd houses), which relate to personal concerns and our private worlds. As such, if conjunctions to the Anti-Vertex occur in synastry, this person may become a significant part of your “inner world.” As someone who has had conjunctions to both my Vertex and Anti-Vertex in synastry, I can tell you the “pull” is equally strong in both cases.

The Vertex and anti-Vertex show us who we are unconsciously attracted to. When Vertex and Anti-Vertex aspects show up in synastry or composite, the two people are irresistibly attracted to one another. The Vertex owner feels the planet/point person is the “man/woman of their dreams.” You usually meet each other unexpectedly and ‘out of the blue.” It is fate that brings the two of you together, and you immediately feel a strong connection when you first meet. The feeling that the other person will change your life can be quite strong. You feel for this person in a way you’ve never felt before.

You will meet this person when your Vertex/Anti-Vertex is contacted by a transiting planet. I’ve also found that strong Vertex/Anti-Vertex connections in the Solar Return indicate the year in which you will meet that special someone.

For example, the year I met a man with whom I have a Vertex-Venus aspect in synastry, my Solar Return chart showed a Vertex-North Node conjunction in the 5th house of love and romance. In addition, the day I met him, transiting Mars was conjunct my natal Venus exactly.

Synastry Aspects with the Vertex

Sun- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Sun person’s ego expression and core-being encapsulates the Vertex person’s idea of the perfect mate. An instant friendship is indicated. There is a feeling of destiny between the two of you, and you feel that you can go the distance together.

Moon- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is an indication of an emotional, supportive, and nurturing connection. The Vertex person is unconsciously attracted to the Moon person’s emotional nature. There is a natural attraction to one another; you feel instantly safe and comfortable with one another. In fact, it can be so comfortable and wonderful, that it is difficult to be without one another!

Mercury- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: A strong intellectual and mental link exists when someone’s Mercury is conjunct or opposite another person’s Vertex. The two of you feel instinctively comfortable talking with one another. Unless there are strong romantic links in the rest of the synastry, this combination can feel like a brotherly-sisterly connection. I have this with a close friend of mine. I love talking to him, and I’m so attracted to his mind.

Venus- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is a prime indicator of a fated, romantic link that will change your life forever. The feelings of love and romance are incredibly strong. The Vertex person finds the Venus person beautiful, charming, and the “man/woman of their dreams.” The love is so strong that separating from one another is incredibly difficult.

Mars- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This indicates a highly sexual link. The sexual charisma and assertiveness of the Mars person is highly attractive to the Vertex person. Sex is transformative and intense; you can’t get enough of one another!

Jupiter- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This connection indicates a benevolent union, full of generosity, good will, and indulgence! The two of you (especially the Vertex person) feel good about yourselves when you are together. The Jupiter can improve your career life and help you achieve your ambitions.

Saturn- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Saturn person acts as a stabilizing force in the Vertex person’s life. The Saturn person may be somewhat of a “fatherly” type to the Vertex person, offering practical advice and guidance. Saturn represents “karma,” while the Vertex represents “fate,” so the relationship is likely to have a highly significant effect on the both of them. The feeling of responsibility and commitment to the Saturn person is high, and it will be hard for the couple to separate because of this.

Uranus- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Uranus person acts as a revolutionizing, destabilizing force in the Vertex person’s life. The attraction is high, as is the sense of excitement when the two of them get together. Uranus opens the Vertex person’s mind to a variety of possibilities. The area in which the Uranus person revolutionalizes the Vertex person is represented by the house in which the conjunction resides.

Neptune- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Vertex person is magically drawn to the Neptune person. The Vertex person easily “loses” herself in the Neptune person, and feels as though the Neptune person fulfills their innermost dreams and fantasies of the perfect mate. This is a highly spiritual, magnetic, and dreamy relationship.

Pluto- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Pluto person has a transformative effect on the Vertex person. The two of you were destined to meet, indeed. This is an opportunity for the Vertex person’s personal growth, which will be achieved by a highly intense and sexual relationship with the Pluto person. Check which house the conjunction is in to get more details as to what kind of transformation will take place.

Node- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is one of the prime indicators of marriage in synastry. The Vertex person has a powerful effect on the Node person’s personality, helping them develop the qualities they need to develop in this life. The two of you were fated to meet, and were destined to learn a lot from one another. An instant sense of familiarity is indicated, since the South Node is being aspected by the other person’s Vertex or Anti-Vertex, as well. The two of you have certainly met before, and have unfinished business to take care of. The attraction is magnetic, powerful, and will transform the both of you forever. Check the house position the conjunction resides in order to get a better idea of how these energies will manifest in each person’s life.

For example, the love of my life’s North Node is conjunct my Vertex in the 8th house in Cancer. Our relationship was highly intimate, transformative, and sexually intense (8thhouse), as well as nurturing, loving, and caring. I greatly helped him develop sexually, as well as emotionally, and he had a similar effect on me. I will never, ever forget him, and he is still hanging on to our relationship, even though we broke up a long time ago.

Ascendant-Vertex: When someone’s Vertex is conjunct your Ascendant, your Vertex is conjunct their Ascendant. This is an indicator of an intense attraction. The two of you may easily stay together for the rest of your lives because of the intense attachment you feel for one another. The physical attraction is off the charts, and the feeling of attraction is instant. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have this aspect.

Descendant-Vertex: The two of you are inexplicably drawn to one another. A feeling of fatedness permeates your relationship. This is an excellent indicator of marriage or, at least, a very significant relationship, which will transform both person’s concepts of love and relationships forever.


http://astro-n.page.tl/The-Vertex.htm

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posted June 12, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 1st house anti-vertex has asteroid Destin sitting exact to the second sitting on it, my Venus is 1.5 degrees conjunct also.
My 7th house vertex is 2.5 degrees from my Chiron, I guess I'm destine to heal Chiron wound through relationships?

I met someone who's Psyche was exact conjunct my vertex and opposed my Venus/Destin, my Alma was exact on their Vertex and opposed their Angel.....that was a very intense relationship.
His energy alone made me feel so happy and safe, just being near him made me feel healed! His Karma was on my Chiron and 2 degrees from my Vertex.

Had another relationship, his moon was on my Destin/anti-vertex exact and Uranus on my Venus exact.
His vertex was on my Karma exact and on my AC by 2 degrees, his AC was on my DC.
So my DC was on his anti-vertex....while his moon was on my anti-vertex.
I feel in love with him so fast and it was a very painful relationship, it was over just as abruptly as it started.

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posted June 12, 2014 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always felt that squares had the necessary tension or that push & pull that assisted in a person's development.

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posted June 12, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
I've always felt that squares had the necessary tension or that push & pull that assisted in a person's development.

I could see that also, the guy with his Karma/Psyche on my vertex/Chiron with my Venus/anti-vertex/Destin oppose made a t-square his Eros, everything was tight 0-2 degrees.
Just being in his energy was healing to me, it was almost like I didn't need him to say a word...I just needed his energy, it was healing to me.

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Originally posted by Orange:
LoLo, my vesta sis,
Vertex does work and very strongly at that!
It's overwhelming, actually. It hits very fast, not necessarily in the beginning, but something triggers it - and, bam - you are up to your eyeballs dipped in "fate and karma want us to be together" kind of feeling.
It has nothing to do with fate.
It's just the Vertex's game to tie two people together because Vertex needs to eat. Once Vertex had enough of it, he throws them out of the window.
If you are lucky to have a strong and beautiful synastry - then Vertex did you a favour to jump up the start of the relationship.
If the two people are incompatible, however, and trust me Vertex does not discriminate - he can bring a pincher and an elephant together if he wants to - then they are bound to do some pretty stupid stuff which will be regretted afterwards. Been there.


Sometimes it seriously sucks!

I have my Antivertex only a few minutes of my Sun/Moon-mp.

HIS Pluto squares it exactly, and his Venus is widely conjunct the Antivertex by about 4 degrees though.

Its effect is ... interesting.

There is some sort of compulsion at work that i donot even LIKE.

As for his houserulers, Pluto rules his 8th house and Venus rules his 2nd and intercepted 7th house.

The 8th-2nd thing is interesting I think, as in my own natal chart my Vertex axis overlays the 8th-2nd house axis, too.

In his chart my Vertex falls into his 5th house, and Antivertex into his 11th house.


The ruler of my Vertex is Moon, widely trine his Pluto (4 degrees). The ruler of my Antivertex is SAturn, which is conjunct my own Vertex by 4 degrees and squares his Pluto by 4 degrees (since we have a 5 year age difference, this seems suspicious for possible solar arc activity)


From his point of view, his Vertex conjuncts Saturn on the DESC (I also have a widish Saturn-Vertex-conjunction natally, though Saturn is out of orb to oppose his Venus)
(his Vertex is on my Draconic DESC btw)

Anyway his Vertex squares my Sun-Mercury-conjunction on his Sun-Moon-MC.
Sun rules my 9th and Mercury my 7th house.
Saturn which conjuncts his Vertex rules his 11th and is in his 7th.

The ruler of his Vertex is of course Mercury, which is conjunct my Mars, ASC, NN, Neptune and squaring my Jupiter..
The ruler of his Antivertex is Neptune, and conjuncts my Sun-Mercury-widely

Lots of 7th house emphasis as it seems (ruelr of his 7th house rules Vertex, with Vertex being conjunct DSC closely; ruler of his Antivertex conjunct MY DEsc-ruler).

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posted June 12, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Sometimes it seriously sucks!

I have my Antivertex only a few minutes of my Sun/Moon-mp.


I don't envy you, my dear. So much cosmic energy clustered at 21' Cancer-Capricorn, it is indeed your hottest spot. I remember you had some other stuff there, too.
Watch out when Transiting Pluto and Uranus start invading the teritory.
"It was the best of time, it was the worst of time"...

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posted June 12, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Orange, do you think a mutual connection is more binding? Or it just means they both learn their (different) lessons from the interaction and they're both equally and strongly attracted?

well, in my example - Vertex was affecting both charts. His Venus-Mars fell exactly on my Vertex and my Moon-IC fell right on his Vertex. His Nodes were also along my IC-MC.

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posted June 12, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder what Vertex is doing in Indigo's chart with her TF, the feeling of the relationship as she described it in the "meeting for lunch" original post is identical to my relationship. In synastry we have my anti-vertex conjunct his Pluto exact and his anti-vertex conjunct my Sun-Venus-Mars also exact (0 degrees).

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Originally posted by Orange:
well, in my example - Vertex was affecting both charts. His Venus-Mars fell exactly on my Vertex and my Moon-IC fell right on his Vertex. His Nodes were also along my IC-MC.


Strong Yin/Yang attraction with these. But you also had Vertex angles and nodes/angles...these should have been quite binding, at least for a while. How long did it last? Were the planetary aspects/geometry missing?

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posted June 12, 2014 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Strong Yin/Yang attraction with these. But you also had Vertex angles and nodes/angles...these should have been quite binding, at least for a while. How long did it last? Were the planetary aspects/geometry missing?

It lasted 2 months. There was no physical relatioship thou. We met at a business function, i was completely indifferent but he was quite adamant.
We kept in contact for an year, i remained cordial but he kept pushing. He had a Sun/Pluto/Saturn conjunction in Scorpio on top of his Scotpio Ascendant. All that fell in my 8th house.
About an year into it, the Vertex hit me all of sudden like a ton of bricks and i was ready to fly. Most overwhelmed. Felt like i had no control of the situation and it was inevitable. Possessed.
2 months later the Vertex released me and i couldnt believe what it made me feel.
I feel embarrased at what i was planning to do ( but never did, thank you, baby Jesus).
He was a great guy, just completely incompatible.

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posted June 12, 2014 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My twin flame...
His Psyche aries@20.56
My Vertex aries@21.34
My Destin libra@21.34
His Eros cap@20.32

My Alma leo@21.41
His Vertex leo@21.12
His Sun/Moon mid point aqua@19.21
His Mercury taurus@21.34 in my 8th house
My NN scorpio@21.44


Composite-
Sun aqua@19.03
Uranus libra@20.53
Saturn gemini@21.53
Vertex gemini@21.18
Juno gem@21.04 in 7th

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posted June 12, 2014 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I could see that also, the guy with his Karma/Psyche on my vertex/Chiron with my Venus/anti-vertex/Destin oppose made a t-square his Eros, everything was tight 0-2 degrees.
Just being in his energy was healing to me, it was almost like I didn't need him to say a word...I just needed his energy, it was healing to me.

I would assume your vertex axis synastry to be more healing with the combination of karma, psyche and chiron. Mine feels more I've been sweeped up and uninhibited with:
His Venus/Eros conjunct my Vertex/Union
His Jupiter conjunct my anti vertex

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posted April 04, 2018 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Healing Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More good vertex information.

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posted May 02, 2021 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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