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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 30, 2014 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Predicting your relationship with progressed to natal comparisons.

How does your comparison look? (house overlays included)

Coming back with mine...

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posted June 30, 2014 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Predicting your relationship with progressed to natal comparisons.

How does your comparison look? (house overlays included)

Coming back with mine...


I have a dilemma here. Should I go shopping at the groceries now or stay studying the charts and shop tomorrow? I'm confident the Venus Queen will give me a satisfying answer hehe.

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posted June 30, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First thing I notice is Progressed Composite Sun at 14 CAP, while Mars at 14 CAN. Woo, never see that one coming, so Cardinal Cross hit us hard, on 5th/11th and 2nd/8th houses, Mars is also 2nd house ruler, an intimacy test.

Sun falls in my 9th house, my secondary 8th house.
Sun falls in his 3rd house, his secondary 8th house.
The cause for the break up is intimacy blocked.

Comparing to my natal:
North Node on my ASC (1)
Union/SN on my DSC (0)
Venus on my Neptune in my 9th house (0) No wonder I'm in total confusion.
Alma/Psyche on my Venus/Karma/Vesta (0-1) I still feel the love
Vesta/MC right on my Sun in my 7th(0-1)
DSC on my Juno in my 5th (1)
Those sound loving, eh? Wait, this is the best part: Progressed Composite Chiron right on IC oppose my Sun (1), square my Moon/SN (1) don't know if I should laugh or cry!
Saturn in my 7th, oppose my Jupiter (1) along with Progressed Composite Juno form a Boomerang to my Jupiter quincunx Saturn/Uranus. There's an event here, as the progressed composite has Saturn square Vertex/Moon in 6th and Moira/POF in 12th rising. Can I assume this event hasn't happened yet? Jupiter is now my chart ruler, so is this event will empower or weaken me? We shall see.

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posted June 30, 2014 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
I have a dilemma here. Should I go shopping at the groceries now or stay studying the charts and shop tomorrow? I'm confident the Venus Queen will give me a satisfying answer hehe.


Good choice

Wait? You've compared the composite? Haven't we done that already? Or maybe not...


I was talking about comparing your natal to his progressed natal and viceversa, but this one is good too.


Comparing natal to progressed natal and checking how natal placements fall in the progressed houses must be very interesting though. Kinda like how your natal meets with his "current" natal, the progressed. One can see there if there is partnership or not, similar with NN persona and natals.


I haven't done mine yet, but I'm doing it tonight.

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posted June 30, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Good choice

Wait? You've compared the composite? Haven't we done that already? Or maybe not...


I was talking about comparing your natal to his progressed natal and viceversa, but this one is good too.


Comparing natal to progressed natal and checking how natal placements fall in the progressed houses must be very interesting though. Kinda like how your natal meets with his "current" natal, the progressed. One can see there if there is partnership or not, similar with NN persona and natals.


I haven't done mine yet, but I'm doing it tonight.


Ah, you see, Retro Mercury still plays havoc with my mind. I already made some mistakes with my paperwork because of confusion like these *sigh*. Bad, bad Mer...cury hehe.

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posted June 30, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So we know there's no relationship at the moment for me.

Do we look at trine, sextile and square too or just conjunction and opposition?


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posted June 30, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
So we know there's no relationship at the moment for me.

Do we look at trine, sextile and square too or just conjunction and opposition?



Hard aspects and significant geometric patterns maybe?? But conjunctions/opp should be there, IMO< if anything significant is to happen.

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posted June 30, 2014 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My progressed to his natal:

My progressed is very intense: Sun conjunct Uranus about to enter Scorpio 8th house. Venus conjunct Mars 1 deg. in Libra 7th, also conjunct Sun and Uranus, close orbs. Karma conjunct IC exact with POF.

My pASC conjuncts his Sun (3) so my Sun is on my pDSC.

my pMC conjuncts his natal NN exact. my pPOF Karma IC conjuncts his SN.

my Libra stellium trines his Mercury and SN, makes a Kite with his NN.

Antivertex conjuncts his Sun. (reversed from our synastry - that's interesting)

pMoon-Psyche conjuncts his Venus.

His Sun falls in my 1st, on ASC. - a good connective aspect, we have it in synastry too reversed.

His ASC plus stellium falls in my 7th.

His Venus in my 11th.

His Moon in my 8th on my Lust.

His Mars/Neptune opp on 3rd/9th axis.

His Mercury/Jupiter in my 12th on my Juno/Ceres - I guess some intimate conversations, revealing secrets?? what do you think? bringing some hidden luck??


So basically these are the houses he influences for me in the following period.

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posted June 30, 2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
First thing I notice is Progressed Composite Sun at 14 CAP, while Mars at 14 CAN. Woo, never see that one coming, so Cardinal Cross hit us hard, on 5th/11th and 2nd/8th houses, Mars is also 2nd house ruler, an intimacy test.

Sun falls in my 9th house, my secondary 8th house.
Sun falls in his 3rd house, his secondary 8th house.
The cause for the break up is intimacy blocked.

Comparing to my natal:
North Node on my ASC (1)
Union/SN on my DSC (0)
Venus on my Neptune in my 9th house (0) No wonder I'm in total confusion.
Alma/Psyche on my Venus/Karma/Vesta (0-1) I still feel the love
Vesta/MC right on my Sun in my 7th(0-1)
DSC on my Juno in my 5th (1)
Those sound loving, eh? Wait, this is the best part: Progressed Composite Chiron right on IC oppose my Sun (1), square my Moon/SN (1) don't know if I should laugh or cry!
Saturn in my 7th, oppose my Jupiter (1) along with Progressed Composite Juno form a Boomerang to my Jupiter quincunx Saturn/Uranus. There's an event here, as the progressed composite has Saturn square Vertex/Moon in 6th and Moira/POF in 12th rising. Can I assume this event hasn't happened yet? Jupiter is now my chart ruler, so is this event will empower or weaken me? We shall see.



How can Jupiter weaken you, lovebird? He's your ally. And a general ally. lol

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posted June 30, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My progressed to his natal:

My progressed is very intense: Sun conjunct Uranus about to enter Scorpio 8th house. Venus conjunct Mars 1 deg. in Libra 7th, also conjunct Sun and Uranus, close orbs. Karma conjunct IC exact with POF.

My pASC conjuncts his Sun (3) so my Sun is on my pDSC.

my pMC conjuncts his natal NN exact. my pPOF Karma IC conjuncts his SN.

my Libra stellium trines his Mercury and SN, makes a Kite with his NN.

Antivertex conjuncts his Sun. (reversed from our synastry - that's interesting)

pMoon-Psyche conjuncts his Venus.

His Sun falls in my 1st, on ASC. - a good connective aspect, we have it in synastry too reversed.

His ASC plus stellium falls in my 7th.

His Venus in my 11th.

His Moon in my 8th on my Lust.

His Mars/Neptune opp on 3rd/9th axis.

His Mercury/Jupiter in my 12th on my Juno/Ceres - I guess some intimate conversations, revealing secrets?? what do you think? bringing some hidden luck??


So basically these are the houses he influences for me in the following period.


Hehehe, I was hoping for this. Angles and Sun/Venus contacts, how crucial. Those Nodes contacts are rather revealing, aren't they? The Mercury/Jupiter in 12th house for me would be talk talk talk, working deep uncomfortable issues out by communication, make sure you have enough actions to back up then you're good. There's your Ceres and Juno so it should be sweet and loving.

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posted June 30, 2014 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How can Jupiter weaken you, lovebird? He's your ally. And a general ally. lol

Because my Jupiter is Retro, who knows what trick he will bring .

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posted June 30, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
Hehehe, I was hoping for this. Angles and Sun/Venus contacts, how crucial. Those Nodes contacts are rather revealing, aren't they? The Mercury/Jupiter in 12th house for me would be talk talk talk, working deep uncomfortable issues out by communication, make sure you have enough actions to back up then you're good. There's your Ceres and Juno so it should be sweet and loving.


Thank you!

His progressed...very interesting because of Mars conjunct Saturn exact at 0 Cancer. Making an Icecream Box pointing to Sun-Moon conjunctions on DSC exact---it's quite an impressive chart! - with Uranus POF on ASC opp Sun/Moon. Sun conjunct Cupid (2), Pallas/Psyche on IC...WAIT this chart is almost identical to his Amor Persona chart! It will be his Amor Persona chart in a few years wow

What do I bring here?

Sun (conjunct his Valentine/Lust) opposite his pVenus (4) (his pVenus conjuncts his natal Sun)


and that's about it s conjunction/opp

my Venus trine his pSun/Cupido sextiles his Mars/Saturn and angles (ASC/DSC)

my Mars squares his Mars/Saturn (0) conjuncts his Vesta and trines his vertex

also makes an almost exact quincunx with pSun and Ceres hm...my Mars plays a role here, in his progression...

my Moon trines his NN and Chiron

my Sun falls in his 11th (it goes nicely with his Moon in my 11th from the other side)

my Moon in his 10th conjunct Union (goes well with his Moon on my MC, I guess)


my Venus in his 10th

my Mars in his 11th

so it's a 10th/11th for him - what do you think it means??

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posted June 30, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In progressed, the house overlays are:

His Sun in my 1st/my Sun on his ASC

His Moon in my 1st/my Moon conjunct his IC

His Venus conjuncts my ASC/my Venus conjunct his ASC

His Mars in my 2nd/my Mars on his ASC


awwwww...these are very nice!


I'm curious, Tulipe, what were the overlays in your progressed (progressed to progressed) when your relationship started?

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posted June 30, 2014 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeahhhooooo, I love Icecream Box! And this Box is full of mature toys lol, sorry, don't mean to say that. This box is a 'love of life' container , he's at maturity peek, ready for home-making .

That opposition is enough for me, because his progressed Venus is on his Sun too, 'love of life' testimony. I'm not sure what your Mars square means, maybe you are to take actions, to stimulate his Mars/Saturn peek. Your Mars conjunct his Psyche there, also being backed up by your Venus aspects, so I suppose the actions are about some real 'loving' . Wait, let me cover my eyes first .

I think your Venus in his 10th goes nicely for his Saturn/MC natal, you soften his 10th house, unburden him. Your Mars in his 11th is bringing him hot love, lol, it's time to get real, showing him you care .

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posted June 30, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yeahhhooooo, I love Icecream Box! And this Box is full of mature toys lol, sorry, don't mean to say that. This box is a 'love of life' container , he's at maturity peek, ready for home-making .

That opposition is enough for me, because his progressed Venus is on his Sun too, 'love of life' testimony. I'm not sure what your Mars square means, maybe you are to take actions, to stimulate his Mars/Saturn peek. Your Mars conjunct his Psyche there, also being backed up by your Venus aspects, so I suppose the actions are about some real 'loving' . Wait, let me cover my eyes first .

I think your Venus in his 10th goes nicely for his Saturn/MC natal, you soften his 10th house, unburden him. Your Mars in his 11th is bringing him hot love, lol, it's time to get real, showing him you care .


LOL you're such a naughty girl! and a good friend! Good night and lovely dreams of Twin's Return (the real one, whoever he is, dark, tall and stranger for you, no compromise here))

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posted June 30, 2014 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yeahhhooooo, I love Icecream Box! And this Box is full of mature toys lol, sorry, don't mean to say that. This box is a 'love of life' container , he's at maturity peek, ready for home-making .

That opposition is enough for me, because his progressed Venus is on his Sun too, 'love of life' testimony. I'm not sure what your Mars square means, maybe you are to take actions, to stimulate his Mars/Saturn peek. Your Mars conjunct his Psyche there, also being backed up by your Venus aspects, so I suppose the actions are about some real 'loving' . Wait, let me cover my eyes first .

I think your Venus in his 10th goes nicely for his Saturn/MC natal, you soften his 10th house, unburden him. Your Mars in his 11th is bringing him hot love, lol, it's time to get real, showing him you care .


LOL you're such a naughty girl! and a good friend! Good night and lovely dreams of Twin's Return (the real one, whoever he is, dark, tall and stranger for you, no compromise here))

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posted June 30, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In progressed, the house overlays are:

His Sun in my 1st/my Sun on his ASC

His Moon in my 1st/my Moon conjunct his IC

His Venus conjuncts my ASC/my Venus conjunct his ASC

His Mars in my 2nd/my Mars on his ASC


awwwww...these are very nice!


I'm curious, Tulipe, what were the overlays in your progressed (progressed to progressed) when your relationship started?


Very lovely indeed, and can't stay away from each other apparently . When my relationship started:
His pSun in my progressed 8th
His pMoon in my p3rd house
His pVenus in my p10
His pMars in my p5th house

My pSun in his p1st, crossing boundary to his p2nd
My pMoon in his p8th
My pVenus in his p1st
My pMars in his p4th, near his 5th cusp

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posted June 30, 2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
LOL you're such a naughty girl! and a good friend! Good night and lovely dreams of Twin's Return (the real one, whoever he is, dark, tall and stranger for you, no compromise here))

Yeah give me a tall one, I'll climb all over him . Sweet sleep and exciting astral travel for you .

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posted July 01, 2014 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Very lovely indeed, and can't stay away from each other apparently . When my relationship started:
His pSun in my progressed 8th
His pMoon in my p3rd house
His pVenus in my p10
His pMars in my p5th house

My pSun in his p1st, crossing boundary to his p2nd
My pMoon in his p8th
My pVenus in his p1st
My pMars in his p4th, near his 5th cusp


Does it fit? To me, it looks like it fits

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posted July 01, 2014 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Does it fit? To me, it looks like it fits

Yes, very hehe.

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posted July 01, 2014 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yes, very hehe.


Your 2nd/8th is present here also

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posted July 01, 2014 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
miss you

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posted July 01, 2014 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
miss you



Already?


What do you propose as additional prediction tools for love charts?

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posted July 01, 2014 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Already?

Always ^^, I hope PM won't happen to see this, or else I'm in big trouble .


quote:
What do you propose as additional prediction tools for love charts?

We tackle so much charts already, I will think on this.

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posted July 04, 2014 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
We tackle so much charts already, I will think on this.


How about the synastry of Marks chart and natals?

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