posted July 04, 2014 06:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
How about the synastry of Marks chart and natals?

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Hi yes, why not? Have you found anything significant? (I wrote you a message on Biquintile, BTW)

posted July 04, 2014 10:58 AM            

ASC conjunct ASC wide
Marks stellium completes his Grand Trine with Sun and Moon
Moon conjunct his Neptune opp his Mars (Kite apex)
Sun/Priapus opp his Venus (Sun Kite apex)
Juno/Jupiter conjunct his Sun

Checking his Marks against my natal

Sun opp Marks Venus - the same aspect, reversed

Marks Sun/Cupido makes a Yod for me, with my stellium sextile Neptune, release on Marks MC

Marks Sun/C trines my Venus and Marks ASC

ASC conjunct ASC wide

Juno conjunct Jupiter exact

Moon conjuncts my DSC exact (and my Saturn)

My Moon conjunct Marks Vertex

Marks against Marks:

Moon/Neptune makes a Yod with Sun/Cupido/Eros and Venus/Mars conjunction (my Marks Venus, his Marks Mars)

MC conjunct DSC
Sun square Sun cross with angles
etc.

posted July 06, 2014 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Checking my Marks against his natal:

ASC conjunct ASC wide
Marks stellium completes his Grand Trine with Sun and Moon
Moon conjunct his Neptune opp his Mars (Kite apex)
Sun/Priapus opp his Venus (Sun Kite apex)
Juno/Jupiter conjunct his Sun

Checking his Marks against my natal

Sun opp Marks Venus - the same aspect, reversed

Marks Sun/Cupido makes a Yod for me, with my stellium sextile Neptune, release on Marks MC

Marks Sun/C trines my Venus and Marks ASC

ASC conjunct ASC wide

Juno conjunct Jupiter exact

Moon conjuncts my DSC exact (and my Saturn)

My Moon conjunct Marks Vertex

Marks against Marks:

Moon/Neptune makes a Yod with Sun/Cupido/Eros and Venus/Mars conjunction (my Marks Venus, his Marks Mars)

MC conjunct DSC
Sun square Sun cross with angles
etc.

Some nice mirrors here...

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Wow, I didn't see this after I posted the question , my mind wandered hehe. What do you mean nice mirrors?! I think it's fantastic, for the way your Marks charts influence each other is similar, beautifully mutual receiving. And Yods all around, hehe, how fit for Yod girl.
What are your ideas about predictive Persona Charts?

posted July 06, 2014 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Wow, I didn't see this after I posted the question , my mind wandered hehe. What do you mean nice mirrors?! I think it's fantastic, for the way your Marks charts influence each other is similar, beautifully mutual receiving. And Yods all around, hehe, how fit for Yod girl.
What are your ideas about predictive Persona Charts?

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Hahaha thoughts in sync...

posted July 18, 2014 12:55 PM            

First the house overlays:

Sun falls in my 7th
Moon falls in my 1st
Venus falls in my 12th - oops secret love, Neptunian love lol
Mars falls in my 7th
Juno falls in my 1st
ASC/DSC - my 12th/6th
MC/IC my 8th/2nd

Sun falls in his 11th - I guess he feels loved
Moon falls in his 6th - should I cook for him?
Venus in his 4th conjunct IC - no indifference with this aspect
Mars in his 11th - not only loved hahaha
Juno right on his 5th cusp
ASC/DSC in his 4th-10th
MC/IC in his 1st/7th

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posted July 18, 2014 01:11 PM            

For him:

Venus ASC square Pluto and Cupido
Merc conjunct MC/SN exact

a Mercury connection is strong with both charts

Psyche/Lilith conjunct his Venus exact, part of love Kite
Moon/Juno conjunct his Jupiter (1) - very nice
Eros conjunct his Amor
Cupido square his Sun (mine also, I havent' noticed)
Karma opp his Moon almost exact
Sun/Vertex/Amor opp his Lilith/Pallas/Psyche
POF/Priapus square his Moon, conjuncts his Priapus exact
Mars conjunct his Union
MC conjunct his Vesta

posted July 20, 2014 02:44 PM            

Given Leeloo's interpretations with FM charts, I thought it would be possible to see how a chart for the time when we decided to separate impacted both of us. Well, I know how it impacted me, but am concerned on how I might cope (composite) in the future. And how was he affected?

We were outwardly calm and accepting, and hoping to stay in touch. No lack of emotion though - Moon in 1st, Sun, Valentine and Amor conjunct. Saturn quincunx Uranus is supposed to imply a paradox - an attempt to resolve difficulties that fails. Oh dear!

Meeting and him

Meeting and me - for comparison purposes

posted July 20, 2014 02:47 PM            

Looking at his chart:
of course, the first thing I notice is his Saturn making a Yod with the Moon/Mercury sextile, on his Vertex axis. One can say the woman proposed a discussion, and Saturn rules his 3rd house. Moon falls in his partnership house ( a partner, a woman) and Mercury in his 9th - leaving, long-distance etc. Sun of the event also falls in his 9th.

Him being Saturn at the apex however, he becomes a deciding factor in the event.

posted July 20, 2014 02:48 PM            

Many people become accustomed to distant relationships and live in hope of circumstances changing. I just find it depressing.

I am adding his comp with meeting below. This has SUN conjunct Vertex, Destinn, Venus and Mercury in the 7th. What could that mean? Does this comp show any signs of a transformation (Pluto/NN) which may work in our favour.

posted July 20, 2014 05:25 PM            

I'll continue tomorrow, it is too late here

posted July 21, 2014 10:24 AM            

very intense stuff going on

the emotional impact hits your MC - so it was like a peak, this moment
you seem like the trigger of the meeting, with your Mars on vertex. Your Mars sextile Alma makes a Yod with the Moon on MC, and the release on your IC - it was strongly felt, to the core, I'd say the meeting is like a turning point for you

it is a partnerhsip you hold very dear (Juno conjunct Psyche)
your natal Uranus on Sun/Jupiter square your natal Sun - another clue for turning point and you being the trigger
the partnership (DSC) conjunct your Sun/Neptune - again, a very important partnership for you

there is a Saturn return near your Venus ( a completed cycle, the need for make or break)
and your Venus makes a powerful Yod with Uranus/Kaali and Juno/Psyche, releasing in your 10th house - it was important for you to have a long-term, stable, angular 10th house structure or nothing.

the meeting's Sun falls in your 12th - ending, completion, or pushing something like in a drawer, also perhaps some secret, hidden element involved, such as not showing one's intentions/feelings. However you have Amor on Amor there, and he had Amor highlighted too, so for both of you, this relationship is a matter of the heart.

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posted July 21, 2014 10:52 AM            

I am at a crossroads with two miserable choices, and wonder if I am making the right decisions. Above all, I don't wish for him to be hurt so that he bears scars. Can the composites reveal how we will cope? His, I thought, was looking positive.

posted July 21, 2014 03:14 PM            

We have some common aspects in the composites which could indicate that the break up will lead to change for the better. Or is that wishful thinking?

He has Vertex/Destinn conj Sun (exact) in the 7th, and Pluto conj NN.

I have Destinn conj Pluto in 5th. And Karma conj NN exact in 6th.

He has a remarkable stellium in the 7th with Sun, Mercury, Venus, which in composites would indicate a great relationship. I have no idea what that would mean in this context.

posted July 21, 2014 03:39 PM            

In his chart, I saw his 9th and 6th ruler Mercury (both related to overseas and his house or his job) conjunct MC ruler Venus - so the future could lead to an activation of these houses, in connexion with a sextile from ASC ruler Uranus - an harmonious, progressive, not sudden change (in the 5th, related to love and union as you can see there). Also Sun square NN/Pluto, which could mean this meeting may lead to a transformation on the NN (Sun triggers it).

In your composite I see how the matter touches you deeply by the IC emphasis. For the relationship house, I see delays: its ruler is squared by Saturn, it is also late in its house, but a partnership is possible in the future, because MC (the future, best accomplishment) ruler Neptune is in 7th. A new beginning/approach from your side is however necessary for Neptune (this possible future) to be triggered. Look at that Aries point Moon squaring Neptune! The change of approach must come from 2nd house matters - you need to figure out what this means

posted July 22, 2014 09:34 AM            

His Leo 7th house stellium (from the Comp of last meeting and his natal - lmc) falls on the 9th/10th house in his natal.

The lmc stellium is conjunct nUranus (7.5), nMC (12.46) and nAnteros (13.25). His natal Sun is at 17.35 Leo.

It trines nSaturn (7.41) in 2nd and nKarma (9.36) in 6th.

posted July 22, 2014 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Thanks for investigating this further. I hope this is what you asked for:

His Leo 7th house stellium (from the Comp of last meeting and his natal - lmc) falls on the 9th/10th house in his natal.

The lmc stellium is conjunct nUranus (7.5), nMC (12.46) and nAnteros (13.25). His natal Sun is at 17.35 Leo.

It trines nSaturn (7.41) in 2nd and nKarma (9.36) in 6th.

lmc stellium falls in the 11th house of our composite of natals. Again it is conjunct cUranus (5.05) as well as cPsyche (5.43), and is opposite cChiron (7.27).

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Yeah...well, being on his MC, it has to be important. Hard to establish an evolution though, because of Uranus being there in both charts, his natal/your comp...you know how unpredictable Uranus acts It doesn't have to be separative, it's just not predictable. If it had been Venus or Moon there, and falling into a stable config, it would have been more clear.

However, I like that it is part of his natal Saturn/Karma trine - it shows it's an important, fated relationship.

I find it extremely difficult to form an international relationship unless, after the initial stage, one of them moves to the other's country or they both go to a third one, of course I mean, you can't keep a relationship like this for long, you need to have a "living together" stage, so I understand how difficult it must have been for you (well, don't mind me, I have Saturn on DSC

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posted July 24, 2014 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Does you progressed composite show the evolution of your relationship, Tulipe? And everyone else? I mean the movement of the planets, the houses etc.

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Yes, I think so. Progressed composite Sun 14 CAP in 11th house oppose Mars 14 CAN. So the Cardinal Cross hits my relationship full force on 2nd,5th,8th,11th houses. Issues like intimacy, commitment rises to the fore. It really is a question of love. The issues are really stressful with progressed Moon in 6th tightly square progressed Saturn. At the time of the applying square I'm really obsessed with finding a way for us to be together on a daily basis. Progressed also crossing to 7th house cusp, conjunct Vertex, it was really an emotional period. Err, wait, that period is still not over , progressed Moon is now separating from the square, in an applying conjunction to the DSC and Vertex, Chiron right on IC, doubly emotional.
There are some love aspects still, Sun conjunct Venus 6. I know it's wide, but Venus also conjunct Neptune 6, in fact Venus is on the midpoint of Sun/Neptune. Neptune also trine Moon exact, so the love dream is still there. Mercury, being DSC and IC ruler, is at 0 AQUA in 11th house, sextile Saturn.
I thought the relationship ended when progressed Moon square Saturn exact, but it dragged on. Do you have data on what aspects indicate an ending?

posted July 25, 2014 04:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yes, I think so. Progressed composite Sun 14 CAP in 11th house oppose Mars 14 CAN. So the Cardinal Cross hits my relationship full force on 2nd,5th,8th,11th houses. Issues like intimacy, commitment rises to the fore. It really is a question of love. The issues are really stressful with progressed Moon in 6th tightly square progressed Saturn. At the time of the applying square I'm really obsessed with finding a way for us to be together on a daily basis. Progressed also crossing to 7th house cusp, conjunct Vertex, it was really an emotional period. Err, wait, that period is still not over , progressed Moon is now separating from the square, in an applying conjunction to the DSC and Vertex, Chiron right on IC, doubly emotional.
There are some love aspects still, Sun conjunct Venus 6. I know it's wide, but Venus also conjunct Neptune 6, in fact Venus is on the midpoint of Sun/Neptune. Neptune also trine Moon exact, so the love dream is still there. Mercury, being DSC and IC ruler, is at 0 AQUA in 11th house, sextile Saturn.
I thought the relationship ended when progressed Moon square Saturn exact, but it dragged on. Do you have data on what aspects indicate an ending?

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I answered you on the progressions thread

posted July 25, 2014 05:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Yes, fated it certainly was. Lots of lessons learnt.

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I've read your previous message, Astro Keen Time will tell, if there is true love between you two, you will get together, have faith If not, someone else will come your way. I wish you all the best!