posted June 13, 2014 12:34 PM            

In fact, seeing the synastry between Fm and him is pretty amazing (vertex!!) . Firstly, I've just spotted that Fm (in blue) has:

JUNO conjunct NN at the IC
LUST conjunct KARMA at SN - (in keeping with Draconic synastry)
Also similar to the natals' composite in that the Comp has ASC @ 22 Virgo whilst EROS and MARS are in the 12th @ 19 Virgo.

Him and Meeting chart
SATURN conjunct JUNO/NN
IC conjunct UNION
AMOR conjunct MOON
MOON conjunct VALENTINE - - (strong emotional impact?)
EROS conjunct MARS
MERCURY/VENUS conjunct ASC
Fm ASC conjunct MERCURY, its chart ruler.
And VERTEX ??

AURA appears to be prominent but I have no idea what it implies in synastry.

So, it appears that he was deeply (or more than I had imagined) affected by the event. I am not sure how this indicates long term prospects though. Did I miss something LeeLoo?

Synastry between Fm and me:

Composite for Fm and me

Just adding a composite for Fm and him, which may shed more light.

Aha! JUNO conjunct UNION
KARMA conjunct DESTIN and VALENTINE - so, basically, the same message as the synastry?

Valentine appears to be much more active in this composite than the usual one.

posted June 13, 2014 01:36 PM            

as always - such an interesting approach that you have, I totaly like it. Mmwah.

posted June 13, 2014 02:10 PM            

Selene, Mercury/Vertex opp Jupiter that day right here shows me you've met a very good friend, a protector, especially since the whole thing is connected to your own Mars (a man). Venus is there too and your Valentine/Juno is the mdp of NN/Venus, also in 3rd - a good friend. Sun falls in your 4th, enhancing that familiarity feeling, the soul connection. Mars/DSC falls in your 5th - you also think you met a potential erotic partner. Moon/Amor on Vertex and Pluto as the mdp of your Uranus/Neptune probably triggers this conjunction for you, in a tranformative way, which I think is enhanced by Uranus opening your 8th house. It is not, however, a romantic meeting for you. The Fm ASC falls exactly on your Chiron/NN...that is very impressive... do you have the exact hour? The Moon on Vertex is a major conjunction, probably a soulmate contact, because the Moon rules the FM chart.

posted June 13, 2014 02:18 PM            

His comp shows he's found a "partner in crime" so to speak, but with a Neptunian/Uranian vibe.

posted June 13, 2014 02:45 PM            

Not necessarily. Usually, all charts are in sync. They complete each other, offer more details of the same story. Also, we will do the comparison between the FM and the regular composite, or the FM/Natal composite and the regular composite, and there's also the FM/both persons and the regular composite. Normally, there should be some major connections between all these, pointing to the same story.

Well, what is very good in your chart, Astro Keen:

the event Sun stellium falls into his 5th, and the other important part: Moon Venus Jupiter in his 7th, conjunct his SN Alma, so he definitely found a woman partner that day, that hour. A romantic partner. On the SN - a deep connection.

plus:

vertex NN karma MC/IC perfectly aligned

eros psyche conjunct and with Mars on his Mars

Mercury, event chart ruler, right on his Karma/Union mdp, if you look

event asc cutting through his Venus stellium

some very karmic saturn contacts

I'm not sure he really felt the importance of the meeting based on these contacts, but the importance is definitely there

In the comp, I see a partnership related to work or travel or school, from the placements.

But it all depends on the meaning the 9th house has in his natal chart, then the meaning of the other two houses for the other two major planets for this type of comparison: the Moon and Venus.

posted June 13, 2014 02:54 PM            

Posting the composites between parents and Wedding.

Mother and Wedding

Father and Wedding

posted June 13, 2014 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Whenever I see IC conjunctions (natal IC) in these charts, I know there was a strong emotional impact and sometimes the feeling of meeting someone important from the past, someone from the same soul family.

Selene, Mercury/Vertex opp Jupiter that day right here shows me you've met a very good friend, a protector, especially since the whole thing is connected to your own Mars (a man). Venus is there too and your Valentine/Juno is the mdp of NN/Venus, also in 3rd - a good friend. Sun falls in your 4th, enhancing that familiarity feeling, the soul connection. Mars/DSC falls in your 5th - you also think you met a potential erotic partner. Moon/Amor on Vertex and Pluto as the mdp of your Uranus/Neptune probably triggers this conjunction for you, in a tranformative way, which I think is enhanced by Uranus opening your 8th house. It is not, however, a romantic meeting for you. The Fm ASC falls exactly on your Chiron/NN...that is very impressive... do you have the exact hour? The Moon on Vertex is a major conjunction, probably a soulmate contact, because the Moon rules the FM chart.

For him, the same Moon stellium falls in the 8th house - a karmic one, the meeting brings him love, it covers his entire 5th with major conjunctions and midpoints. The Mercury/Jupiter opp right on his NN/Uranus - impressive. Uranus figures a lot in all your charts with this man as a higher love perhaps?? or friendship? or TF? Uranus also on his Sun/MC. There is a lot of idealization with the Sun falling on Vertex/Neptune mdp with Juno. And DSC on his Moon - the partnership stimulates his Moon.

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Yes, a very good friend and protector! Uranus indeed figure a lot - in synastry, composite, these first meeting charts, etc. Maybe it really is - higher love, beyond our egos, because we do care about each other and would always stand by each others side.. That's why it is so confusing, because it is not romantically for him, so our fellow people don't understand how it just a friendship, nor does his girlfriend.

I don't think he might be my TF, but one of the most important soulmates - that for sure.

You see, some time before meeting him, i meditated on my primary soulmate and sort of called for him.. like a spell - “I send my spirit out to meet my primary soulmate’s spirit. It is for our mutual highest good to have our spirits meet in physical body form now. I ask your spirit to communicate to your body, exactly where to be led to me. And I ask my spirit to communicate to my body exactly where to find you.”

And i don't remember exactly how much time passed, but it was a matter of days, not weeks or months - and we met out of the blue just to learn about all our similarities in background and likes, unusual hobbies, etc. And right after this meeting the past life memories came. So i guess - primary soulmate it is.

About the partner in crime - yes, absolutely. Not a real crime, obviously, but he has so much ideas about what could we do for our cause, and i do receive them with enthusiasm, i always support him, even if it is only me who is supporting... and he appreciates it, i think. In our synastry my Moon trines his Uranus exact contributes to that.

posted June 13, 2014 03:15 PM            

My name asteroid in that first meeting chart falls on my IC and his SN! (conjunct that Mercury/Vertex conjunction)

posted June 13, 2014 05:52 PM            

how I would interpret the composite between natal and event:

Of course, the direct placement of the Sun (the house) and/or house emphasis is revealing, but I would check the significance that house has for the natal - this is the type of partnership for him

I would also check the condition (house placement/aspects) of his natal 7th house ruler in this chart, an additional clue to what this partnership means for him

Then I would check the condition of the Moon to find out what is the emotional impact of this partnership for him, how it is felt

The condition of Venus to know if it's about love

Then I would immediately check the superpositions with his natal (if any) - this is how he is impacted

Then I would interpret the chart as a normal composite - with rulers and everything - this chart shows what kind of partnerhsip it is for him

Normally, all these tell the same story, more or less

Astro Keen,

to answer your question in more detail, yes, you were right

there are several stages to relationships

I think the FM chart offers us two kinds of clues:

some about the following stage
some about the general meaning of the overall relationship

For example, two folks meet at an international conference (the FM). Later on (this could mean years) one of them relocates and becomes the other's work colleague. They get acquainted, find out they are soulmates and live happily ever after.

When we do the composite FM/natal for the relocated one, we can see it has a 9th house Sun, quite in tune with the stage following FM. But I strongly believe that the Fm compared to the natals (synastry and comp) will also offer clues about a possible romantic relationship (and strong ones) if that is the case, disregarding the international conference work colleagues etc. stage.

posted June 13, 2014 09:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Lunae, both charts showing me this meeting was actually an erotic one, or am I reading it wrong?

No, I don't believe Moon/SN is bad, it's like saying down is bad, up is good, left is bad, right is good etc. Moon on SN indicates a soulful karmic meeting from the past from the same soul family, among other things.

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It looks erotic, right? But unfortunately it wasn't XD There was a LOT of talking, though. It was fun but no erotic stuff like that.

When I pulled up the composite and compared it to the natal, it wasn't as erotic as I thought. Aquarius Sun in the 6th conj mercury, Taurus Moon on the 9th conj chiron and MC. There was a Capricorn Venus conj Pluto though.

posted June 14, 2014 03:07 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The conjunctions and the planets on midpoints tell the story of the impact on the natal, where and how it manifests.

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posted June 14, 2014 03:34 AM            

There are several things which look immediately promising:

• 5H stellium including SUN and VENUS
• MOON, ALMA, EROS, JUNO all in 7H
• 7R (VENUS) in 5H conjunct MERC (8R)
• 8H VERTEX conjunct ATLANTIS (1°)
• PLUTO conjunct KARMA in 2H (significant karmic relationships) and ruling the chart
• DESTINN conjunct MC from 9H
• JUNO conjunct DSC (2°)
• 4H JUPITER conjunct AMOR (2°)
• VALENTINE in Yod with SNODE and IC
• SATURN trine MOON (1°)
• SUN trine MARS (0°)
• DESTINN trine VENUS (2°)
• JUPITER sextile JUNO (0°)

But then we get these, too:

• 5R conjunct CHIRON in 4H
• SATURN (3R) opposite SUN (1°)
• SUN square PLUTO (5°)
• 3H/9H NODES square 5H 12R/7R VENUS

It seems clear as first brush, the issue would ultimately be communication. You might even say the weak NEPTUNE quincunx SATURN (3R) caused problems, as it was the 5R.

posted June 14, 2014 06:23 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There's so much to be said about this chart, Ceri...it looks wonderful. The almost exact Sun/Sun, the Moon on your Sun/Mercury - Venus mdp, involved in a DW -sweet, romantic heart felt things. Many oppositions - you'll get that "oppositions" feeling: excitement, attraction, something big etc. All those asteroids well placed. Psyche on Psyche - that's major. Mars - the man - on your Pluto stell. - you will both feel it on a physical level. Vertex on Vertex and Uranus on NN - I wonder if there is not a chance for you to interact more closely, it should be that. Plus, there are two major outer planets squares, with Pluto/Eros and Neptune - I see outer squares to natal when there is a major turning point period in one's life. One is usually enough, but two...

Have fun and be happy tonight! And safe journey!

EDIT: In fact, for all of us born that year, this year is major.

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Thank you for that.

Yes, major, this whole week has been friging crazy!

No no verbal communication in the sense of INTERaction.
But, I don΄t even know how to put it into words. And it is difficult and karmic and melancholic and bittersweet and heartbreaking in a totally different way than I could ever have foreseen.
Or maybe Neptune is clouding my eyes, probably.
But he surely makes it easy to let my eyes cloud over.

One some level even though I enjoyed the concert very much, on some level (and not too deeply hidden,b ut it felt like the subconscious was very surface-level), so on this level I really wanted to mourn this dream with him, this dream that never had the chance to live.

And I wonder WHEN? When was our moment? When was the moment we both missed?

(actually I was asking that question inside yesterday, and an inner voice said: Your moment hasn΄t come yet. lol No,n o inner voices that mislead me with a lie!)

I am probably seeint things totally wrong, but I had the strong impression that I wasn`t the only one filled with regrets.

Maybe it doesn`t even have anything to do with me.

I need to process this, let it sink in for a while.
Maybe it would have been easier if he had not said this. Full of innuendo, of course, and yet probably the closest to a confession that something *possibly* was there, still is.

And yet as I said, vague and full of innuendo still. A way to keep the pride intact I suppose.

Yet, if I make a certain kind of joke, it usually is a very core truth under the hood of the joke.
And he didn`t laugh.

(and neither did his girlfriend).

I know you can`t possibly understand what I am writing here. But neither can I, not really.

posted June 14, 2014 06:53 AM            

Transiting ASC on 12.46 Capricorn
Transiting Pluo on 12.47 Capricorn

Transiting Moon on 2.28 Capricorn in 12th
Tr Mercury on 1.44 Cap in 6th

Tr Venus on 18.34 Taurus in 4th
Tr Saturn on 17.41 Scorpio in 10th
Tr IC on 17.59 Taurus
Tr MC on 17.59 Scorpio

The Pluto/ASC almost was conjunct our composite Venus on 16 Capricorn (and would eventually come closer there and triggering the Venus-Pluto-square (Pluto 15 Libra, Tr Uranus is currently triggering it anyway)

our composite MC is on 16.42 Scorpio, with our tertiary progressed composite Uranus, chartruler, on 16 Scorpio as well.

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Triggers in my chart

Tr Pluto/ASC on 12 Cap=
Moon/ASC 12 Cap

Tr Moon and Mercury 2 Cap/ 1 Cancer
Sun/Venus 1 Cap

Saturn, MC and Venus 17 and 18 Scorpio-Taurus:
Moon 17 Aqua
Mercury/Pluto 17 Scorpio
Sun/Pluto 17 Scorpio
Mars/Uranus 18 Scorpio

triggers in his natal chart

Tr Pluto and ASC (and Mars btw) 12 cardinal
Venus/MC
Moon/Venus
Sun/Juno
Uranus/Node
Juno/MC
(just had touched his Sun/Venus-mp minuts before and my Moon/mars btw, they are same degree)

Tr Moon and Mercury 1 and 2 cardinal
Jupiter/Pluto 1 card
Mars/Pluto 1 card
Mercury/ Venus 2 card

Tr Saturn, MC and Venus: 17 and 18 Scorpio
Venus/Jupiter 18 Scorpio
Venus/Mars 18 Scorpio
(so Tr Saturn had just been separatng of touching these midpoints of his, but Venus was still on them)

Jupiter/Juno 18 Leo

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The chart itself of the moment had these midpoints to the timesensitive factors

Pluto/ASC/Mars: 12 Cap and Libra
Mercury/Lilith
Mercury/jupiter
Saturn/Neptune
Pluto/ASC (= Mars)
Neptune/MC
Moon/Lilith

Moon and Mercury on 1 and 2 cardinal
Uranus/Chiron 1 card
Moon/Mercury 2 card
Neptune/Node 2 card
Sun/ASC 2 card
Sun/Pluto

MC, Saturn and Venus on 17 and 18 fix
Sun/Mars 17 Leo
Saturn/MC 17 SCorpio
Venus/Saturn 18 Leo
Venus/MC 18 Leo

This chart`s ASC/MC midpoint (signifying what happens at THIS place, THIS time) was on 15 Sagittarius

triggering exactly
Moon/Juno
saturn/ASC
Saturn/Pluto
Venus/ASC
Venus/Pluto

And fell our compospite Neptune exact (just a few minutes off)

Btw the event chart`s Vertex was on 24 Leo.
our composite Vetex is on 25 Leo.
In Davision we have an exact Isis/Osiris-conjunction on 25 Leo
his Psyche is on 25 Aquarius, my Psyche is on 24 Aquarius (do the math where comp. Psyche is) and have a look at that transiting Psyche again!4

Anyway so that event`s Vertex on 24 Leo=
Moon/Uranus
Sun/Node

It triggered in my chart:
nothing. lol (well except for Psyche and mean Lilith of course)

in his chart:
Uranus on 23 Scorpio
Sun/Pluto 24 Scorpio
Pluto/MC 24 Scorpio
Moon/Pluto 25 Scorpio
Venus/ASC 25 Aquarius

(I only used the 25 degrees, too, cause Vertex is so time sensitive, and we have our composite Vertex there, which means our composite triggers all that in him. and Uranus is natally of course activating his Sun/pluto).

posted June 14, 2014 11:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
LeeLeo, i have an important business-related meeting with my crush on Monday We will be alone... Pleeeeaaase have a look. I am begging...I would do anything, just let me know what you would like to have for an exchange.
Which chart shall I post?

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Anything?...hm...doesn't that sound tempting

You can post the charts, Enneline (synastry between each of you and the event, composite of each of you and the event), but why do you want to spoil the surprise, my dear? It's like programming yourself what to feel and what to expect on Monday!

posted June 14, 2014 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Thanks, honey muchacha

as always - such an interesting approach that you have, I totaly like it. Mmwah.

no, another man was not involved, unless we count the boss who hired me and brought me to the office. It was not love from first sight, for sure, I don't see how that would be possible. It was lust from first side for me, though. I thought he was super sexy, SO handsome. I forgot about it for the next 6 months when it resurfaced again, and I've been lusting after him for the past year and a half..

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Thank you So that was the man (duh!)
I see here you received a full blown, sis. Neptune on ASC, in combination with Juno/Amor on your own Neptune - idealization, facing a possible dream
Chiron/NN - wake up, Sleeping Beauty!
Uranus forming your synastric Yod
Venus/Uranus falling in your 1st
Moon/SN conjunct Moon/Psyche - waking up your psychic Moon with past life accumulation, right on your IC - it's like having a Super Moon for a moment
All that Vertex combination - it must have been felt in the body as well

NN/MC promising some future
Valentine/MC - kinda Valentine activated by an angle

and the Kite formed that day between luminaries, Uranus and your Chiron/Amor - wake up, Amor!