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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 14, 2014 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selene:
Yes, a very good friend and protector! Uranus indeed figure a lot - in synastry, composite, these first meeting charts, etc. Maybe it really is - higher love, beyond our egos, because we do care about each other and would always stand by each others side.. That's why it is so confusing, because it is not romantically for him, so our fellow people don't understand how it just a friendship, nor does his girlfriend.

I don't think he might be my TF, but one of the most important soulmates - that for sure.

You see, some time before meeting him, i meditated on my primary soulmate and sort of called for him.. like a spell - “I send my spirit out to meet my primary soulmate’s spirit. It is for our mutual highest good to have our spirits meet in physical body form now. I ask your spirit to communicate to your body, exactly where to be led to me. And I ask my spirit to communicate to my body exactly where to find you.”

And i don't remember exactly how much time passed, but it was a matter of days, not weeks or months - and we met out of the blue just to learn about all our similarities in background and likes, unusual hobbies, etc. And right after this meeting the past life memories came. So i guess - primary soulmate it is.


About the partner in crime - yes, absolutely. Not a real crime, obviously, but he has so much ideas about what could we do for our cause, and i do receive them with enthusiasm, i always support him, even if it is only me who is supporting... and he appreciates it, i think. In our synastry my Moon trines his Uranus exact contributes to that.


P.S. And yes, the timing is perfectly right, as i took a look at my watch at the moment we met, because i was falling for astrology back then, i couldn't NOT do it.


Your story is beautiful, Selene, thanks for sharing

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 14, 2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
LeeLoo, I've added my charts above .

And here too, in case this is more convenient.


I think you were equally impacted, Astro keen, or let's say, the importance is equal for both, but you felt it a bit more on a romantic level: I like your Valentine/Moon, Juno/Alma, Alma/Chiron and the house overlays.

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posted June 14, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
First meeting chart...
Would anyone be able to tell me if I am seeing a YOD correctly?
Not quite sure what it even means!!!


Yes, that is a tight karmic Yod that needs to develop slowly. Could you post: synastry between each of you and the event, and composite between each of you and the event?

You too, Indigo, if you want us to delve deeper. You have a very interesting FM chart, Indigo.

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posted June 14, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, Ceri, that you had to see him with his girlfriend and that he even has one I don't know what will happen, but you are such a romantic and precious person, I know it in my heart you will find happiness

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posted June 14, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I made our two composites with the event-chart of yesterday.


Mine:

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not difficult to see that this was an ultra-intense moment for me.

Him:

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posted June 14, 2014 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm sorry, Ceri, that you had to see him with his girlfriend and that he even has one I don't know what will happen, but you are such a romantic and precious person, I know it in my heart you will find happiness

It`s okay. We are living in karmic times.
He still has a strong impact on me, and surprisingly it seems, I have on him, too.

We can be attracted to a lot of people for different reasons, and sometimes it is unbidden and unwelcome, yet, nevertheless quite real.


I know the boundaries. And I have dignity.
Yet feelings are not easily commanded to obey reason. lol

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posted June 14, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One can see he was on stage lol Sun/Venus in 1st. I like that cardinal Moon opp Juno/Alma square NN, that's beautiful. It would be interesting to check what his natal love rulers are doing in this chart.

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posted June 14, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are his natal love rulers?

5th, 7th and 8th houser uler?

then this would be

Moon (5th ruler)
Mercury (7th)
Venus (intercepted 7th ruler)
Pluto (8th ruler)

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posted June 14, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So,

Mercury in 7th
Venus in 1st
Moon in 10th, right on the Ariespoint, indicative of "interaction with the public" lol
Pluto in 9th, but elevated.


As for midpoints

Mercury=
Node/Vertex
Moon/MC
Jupiter/Saturn
Saturn/ASC
Mercury/Venus


Venus=
Mercury/Venus
Sun/Mercury
Mercury/Mars

(plus Sun= Venus/Mars. lol)


Moon=
Neptune/Pluto
orb is 0.00 ZERO

Pluto=
Venus/Lilith
Sun/Lilith
Mars/Lilith
Uranus/Node
Mercury/Jupiter

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posted June 14, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So,

Mercury in 7th
Venus in 1st
Moon in 10th, right on the Ariespoint, indicative of "interaction with the public" lol
Pluto in 9th, but elevated.


As for midpoints

Mercury=
Node/Vertex

Mercury=Moon/MC
Thoughts are stimulated by women and/Or emotions

Mercury=Jupiter/Saturn
Studying one's philosophy of life; speaking with great maturity;
asking the right questions. Change, a fortunate separation, a
journey.To realize a thought


Mercury= Saturn/ASC
Others influencing how one thinks; wanting to be alone, to get away
from it all.
To be occupied with thoughts of separation.


Mercury=
Mercury/Venus
Idealisation; thoughts of love.
Inclination for something. Beginning of an acquaintance. Thoughts of art. Acquaintanceship. To meat or greet others. Thoughts of love. Aesthetic taste. Aesthetic taste. The beautiful woman.

Venus=
Mercury/Venus
Romanticising; thoughts of love.

Venus= Sun/Mercury
One's attitude and outlook towards love and sex. Thoughts about sexual
matters. Writing and speaking about love.


Venus=
Mercury/Mars
Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall
in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration,
insight.
The pleasant voice. Harmonious debates with good friends. Discussions about sex matters.

(plus Sun= Venus/Mars. lol)
A strong physical love; artistic power of creation;
Sexual love of the body. Procreation.


Moon=
Neptune/Pluto
orb is 0.00 ZERO

Mysterious persons. Persons who slowly and unnoticeable change their attitude towards the native. It can also mean the public or especially women who change their attitude.


Pluto=
Venus/Lilith
Sun/Lilith
Mars/Lilith

Pluto=
Uranus/Node
The strong need to be influential; being persuasive; rocking the boat
and people approve the motion. Or: coming under the spell or influence of
others.


Pluto=Mercury/Jupiter
A person exercising an influence over the masses, a suggestive orator, dramatic persuasion.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 14, 2014 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think his Moon was mostly impacted, based on that T/square with the NN and that midpoint.

It's amazing how these charts don't lie, you can tell just by the fact that it's the chart of someone performing in public that moment.


Does he have Juno/Alma in his natal?

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posted June 14, 2014 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you So that was the man (duh!)
I see here you received a full blown, sis. Neptune on ASC, in combination with Juno/Amor on your own Neptune - idealization, facing a possible dream
Chiron/NN - wake up, Sleeping Beauty!
Uranus forming your synastric Yod
Venus/Uranus falling in your 1st
Moon/SN conjunct Moon/Psyche - waking up your psychic Moon with past life accumulation, right on your IC - it's like having a Super Moon for a moment
All that Vertex combination - it must have been felt in the body as well

NN/MC promising some future
Valentine/MC - kinda Valentine activated by an angle

and the Kite formed that day between luminaries, Uranus and your Chiron/Amor - wake up, Amor!


Aww wonderful!

Thanks for your time, sugar

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posted June 14, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Does he have Juno/Alma in his natal?

No.

But we have it in composite.

ALMA on 20 Taurus conjunct JUNO on 22 Taurus (exact in helio) near the IC on 16 Taurus,w hich has Eros and Priapus there,t oo. I mention this cause both of us had an Eros-Priapus-conjunction with the event chart, AND we have the exact Eros-Priapus-IC in composite as well. lol


Anyway that Juno-Alma conjunction in composit is opposing Valentine-Lust-Angel on the MC in scorpio and trine Moon exact and sextile Ceres closely, too. A cradle.

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posted June 14, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw Moon being impacted most makes sense, as it rules his 5th house, and he was performing, right?

his natal Moon is also conjunct my Sun-Mercury-conjunction.

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posted June 14, 2014 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for my love-rulers that would be

Venus (5th house)
Mercury (7th house)
Moon (8th house)

In my event-composite,

Venus in 2nd house (my value was boosted?)

Mercury in 9th house and actually in orb of the AP as well

Moon in 1st house, closely conjunct Uranus and Neptune (and boy was I weirded out! )

Midpoints:

Venus=
none
(it was not me performing after all. lol)


Mercury=
Node/Vertex


Moon=
Mercury/Node
Sharing emotional thoughts with others.

Moon=
Uranus/Neptune
the sense of being on the
right track to do one's best. Openness to mystical or spiritual
influences, the tendency to delve into the mysteries of the
other-than-physical. A fit of weakness.


Moon=
Sun/Pluto (I have that in natal, too )
power and persuasion. emotional intensity.

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posted June 14, 2014 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed I have a Pluto-Pallas-Vesta-conjunction in SCorpio in 11th house, with Pluto ruling my natal 11th house as well.
It makes sense as I was on the receiving end of the performance, so to speak of.


Pluto`s Midpoints

Pluto=
Sun/Neptune
Extreme sensitivity; use of the spiritual, psychic, or illusory as a
force for persuasion

Pluto=
Sun/Moon
Development and transformation of a partnership or marriage.
Sweeping changes in partnership, reassessment of old premises,
dramatic upsets in the balance of forces, fated or fatefull connection.


Pluto=Venus/Vx

Pluto= Mercury/Uranus
Tremendous power for work, action, leadership; getting the biggest job
done in a commanding way. Over-strained, over-stimulated nerves.
To readjust one's own thoughts suddenly

Pluto=Mercury/Neptune
To see through false pretences.


Pluto=Moon/Mercury
The necessity of adjusting one's thinking to new conditions; new
perspectives; persuasion or being persuaded. Special events (maybe
acts of God) re-orient one's thinking. Tragic realisations.


Pluto=ASC/MC
Developments or changes in relation to others. Professional changes effect the native's personality.


Also, Jupiter was busy in the chart, being chartruler, and my natal chartruler and so on.


Jupiter=Mars/Pluto
Unusual
success, enjoyment of one's freedom, publicity.


Jupiter= Venus/Uranus
Suddenly manifested love connected with happiness.
inspired artistic receptivity.
A sudden and passing happiness in love, vacation


Jupiter=Venus/Neptune
A rich imagination, romantic reverie, a love of comfort; receptiveness
of beauty and art


Happy enthusiasm of love. Temporary happiness in an unfortunate love affair. Only for hours united in happy love.
lol


Jupiter=Moon/Venus4
A happy love-life, an abundance of feeling, an affectionate and
optimistic disposition. A woman`s love reciprocated

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posted June 14, 2014 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
btw Moon being impacted most makes sense, as it rules his 5th house, and he was performing, right?


yes, this makes a lot of sense. and the rest is so fit too, like an exact map at least from what you describe...

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posted June 14, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Aww wonderful!

Thanks for your time, sugar


You're welcome, sweetie!

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posted June 14, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
yes, this makes a lot of sense. and the rest is so fit too, like an exact map at least from what you describe...

You can say that.

A lot was going on,b ut I leave that aside.

That moment was, well, he usually has a notepad with him on stage, no clue what he has on there, song-lyrics?
Well he always sais there is only written: "Breathe in, breathe out."


Anyway after the break a colleague came onto stage with him, looked at the notepad, chuckled and said to the audience: "I have to read this aloud for you: He wrote: `Breathe in. Breathe out. The lady in the 2nd row, to the far right, is driving me completely crazy. I even messed up my lines during the song xy hugely."


Well, of course it was a joke, and the audience was laughing, and I was laughing, too at first, until the realization hit me WHO was sitting in 2nd row, and from his perspective, on the far right side.
Which would have been yours truely.


Mr Sag himself did not look up during that incidence, but kept his head lowered, and averted while singing the song, which is unusual for him.

And event hough this was a joke, he didnīt laugh, nor did his girlfriend btw.


Anyway, at the end of the song they had been singing, he was looking at the piano, and on that occasion threw me a glance, almost like he wanted to check, if I still wsa there, or how I was looking or I donīt knwo what.


Much of what came after that, i donīt quite recall, cause i was stil processing the joke. Lol

Which it was, I know, I know, I know. Still, holy smoke! Who is driving whom crazy, hu?

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posted June 14, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
LeeLeo, i have an important business-related meeting with my crush on Monday We will be alone... Pleeeeaaase have a look. I am begging...I would do anything, just let me know what you would like to have for an exchange.
Which chart shall I post?

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posted June 14, 2014 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, that is a tight karmic Yod that needs to develop slowly. Could you post: synastry between each of you and the event, and composite between each of you and the event?

You too, Indigo, if you want us to delve deeper. You have a very interesting FM chart, Indigo.


Yes I will post them!
Slowwwwllllyyyyyy must be the operative word here...that FM chart was 12/17/12...still "developing". Not sure if we will ever have what I hope for. Such a push/pull, runner/chaser theme at play.
Me being the one who is always wanting "more" and learning slowly how to back off & let life take it's course. Will post charts . Thank you!

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posted June 14, 2014 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
*bump*

Obviously, you didn't read my answer ...page 2

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posted June 14, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Obviously, you didn't read my answer ...page 2

ah, you're right (re. programing myself and that I did not read your reply)

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posted June 14, 2014 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My FM chart synastry- all times are correct
I am on the inside

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posted June 14, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Tulipe,

how I would interpret the composite between natal and event:

Of course, the direct placement of the Sun (the house) and/or house emphasis is revealing, but I would check the significance that house has for the natal - this is the type of partnership for him

I would also check the condition (house placement/aspects) of his natal 7th house ruler in this chart, an additional clue to what this partnership means for him

Then I would check the condition of the Moon to find out what is the emotional impact of this partnership for him, how it is felt

The condition of Venus to know if it's about love

Then I would immediately check the superpositions with his natal (if any) - this is how he is impacted

Then I would interpret the chart as a normal composite - with rulers and everything - this chart shows what kind of partnerhsip it is for him

Normally, all these tell the same story, more or less


Oh yes, how you can come up with these great ideas I don't know . I'm touched by the Yod in the Composite for your father lol, I wonder how would you interpret that Moon conjunct Pluto in 12th. And those two Kite point to Venus/Vertex and Mercury chart ruler, DSC on Venus/Mercury midpoint too, he must have been drunk by love that day lol.

Now I'm going to examine my charts , I have Vertex on DSC in my composite with the FM too.

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