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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 12:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selene: Yes, a very good friend and protector! Uranus indeed figure a lot - in synastry, composite, these first meeting charts, etc. Maybe it really is - higher love, beyond our egos, because we do care about each other and would always stand by each others side.. That's why it is so confusing, because it is not romantically for him, so our fellow people don't understand how it just a friendship, nor does his girlfriend. I don't think he might be my TF, but one of the most important soulmates - that for sure. You see, some time before meeting him, i meditated on my primary soulmate and sort of called for him.. like a spell - I send my spirit out to meet my primary soulmates spirit. It is for our mutual highest good to have our spirits meet in physical body form now. I ask your spirit to communicate to your body, exactly where to be led to me. And I ask my spirit to communicate to my body exactly where to find you. And i don't remember exactly how much time passed, but it was a matter of days, not weeks or months - and we met out of the blue just to learn about all our similarities in background and likes, unusual hobbies, etc. And right after this meeting the past life memories came. So i guess - primary soulmate it is. About the partner in crime - yes, absolutely. Not a real crime, obviously, but he has so much ideas about what could we do for our cause, and i do receive them with enthusiasm, i always support him, even if it is only me who is supporting... and he appreciates it, i think. In our synastry my Moon trines his Uranus exact contributes to that.
P.S. And yes, the timing is perfectly right, as i took a look at my watch at the moment we met, because i was falling for astrology back then, i couldn't NOT do it.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 12:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: LeeLoo, I've added my charts above .And here too, in case this is more convenient.
I think you were equally impacted, Astro keen, or let's say, the importance is equal for both, but you felt it a bit more on a romantic level: I like your Valentine/Moon, Juno/Alma, Alma/Chiron and the house overlays. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 12:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by IntuitiveJ: First meeting chart... Would anyone be able to tell me if I am seeing a YOD correctly? Not quite sure what it even means!!!
Yes, that is a tight karmic Yod that needs to develop slowly. Could you post: synastry between each of you and the event, and composite between each of you and the event? You too, Indigo, if you want us to delve deeper. You have a very interesting FM chart, Indigo. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 12:10 PM
I'm sorry, Ceri, that you had to see him with his girlfriend and that he even has one I don't know what will happen, but you are such a romantic and precious person, I know it in my heart you will find happiness IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 12:15 PM
I made our two composites with the event-chart of yesterday. Mine:
[/URL] not difficult to see that this was an ultra-intense moment for me. Him: [/URL] IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 12:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I'm sorry, Ceri, that you had to see him with his girlfriend and that he even has one I don't know what will happen, but you are such a romantic and precious person, I know it in my heart you will find happiness
It`s okay. We are living in karmic times. He still has a strong impact on me, and surprisingly it seems, I have on him, too. We can be attracted to a lot of people for different reasons, and sometimes it is unbidden and unwelcome, yet, nevertheless quite real. I know the boundaries. And I have dignity. Yet feelings are not easily commanded to obey reason. lol
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 01:46 PM
One can see he was on stage lol Sun/Venus in 1st. I like that cardinal Moon opp Juno/Alma square NN, that's beautiful. It would be interesting to check what his natal love rulers are doing in this chart.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 02:07 PM
What are his natal love rulers?5th, 7th and 8th houser uler? then this would be Moon (5th ruler) Mercury (7th) Venus (intercepted 7th ruler) Pluto (8th ruler) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 02:14 PM
So, Mercury in 7th Venus in 1st Moon in 10th, right on the Ariespoint, indicative of "interaction with the public" lol Pluto in 9th, but elevated. As for midpoints
Mercury= Node/Vertex Moon/MC Jupiter/Saturn Saturn/ASC Mercury/Venus Venus= Mercury/Venus Sun/Mercury Mercury/Mars
(plus Sun= Venus/Mars. lol) Moon= Neptune/Pluto orb is 0.00 ZERO
Pluto= Venus/Lilith Sun/Lilith Mars/Lilith Uranus/Node Mercury/Jupiter IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 02:14 PM
So, Mercury in 7th Venus in 1st Moon in 10th, right on the Ariespoint, indicative of "interaction with the public" lol Pluto in 9th, but elevated. As for midpoints
Mercury= Node/Vertex Mercury=Moon/MC Thoughts are stimulated by women and/Or emotions Mercury=Jupiter/Saturn Studying one's philosophy of life; speaking with great maturity; asking the right questions. Change, a fortunate separation, a journey.To realize a thought Mercury= Saturn/ASC Others influencing how one thinks; wanting to be alone, to get away from it all. To be occupied with thoughts of separation.
Mercury= Mercury/Venus Idealisation; thoughts of love. Inclination for something. Beginning of an acquaintance. Thoughts of art. Acquaintanceship. To meat or greet others. Thoughts of love. Aesthetic taste. Aesthetic taste. The beautiful woman.
Venus= Mercury/Venus Romanticising; thoughts of love. Venus= Sun/Mercury One's attitude and outlook towards love and sex. Thoughts about sexual matters. Writing and speaking about love. Venus= Mercury/Mars Quick decisions in matters of love and affection; the tendency to fall in love quickly. Excited plans about romance; creative inspiration, insight. The pleasant voice. Harmonious debates with good friends. Discussions about sex matters.
(plus Sun= Venus/Mars. lol) A strong physical love; artistic power of creation; Sexual love of the body. Procreation. Moon= Neptune/Pluto orb is 0.00 ZERO
Mysterious persons. Persons who slowly and unnoticeable change their attitude towards the native. It can also mean the public or especially women who change their attitude. Pluto= Venus/Lilith Sun/Lilith Mars/Lilith
Pluto= Uranus/Node The strong need to be influential; being persuasive; rocking the boat and people approve the motion. Or: coming under the spell or influence of others. Pluto=Mercury/Jupiter A person exercising an influence over the masses, a suggestive orator, dramatic persuasion.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 02:25 PM
I think his Moon was mostly impacted, based on that T/square with the NN and that midpoint.It's amazing how these charts don't lie, you can tell just by the fact that it's the chart of someone performing in public that moment. Does he have Juno/Alma in his natal?
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 1766 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 14, 2014 02:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Thank you So that was the man (duh!) I see here you received a full blown, sis. Neptune on ASC, in combination with Juno/Amor on your own Neptune - idealization, facing a possible dream Chiron/NN - wake up, Sleeping Beauty! Uranus forming your synastric Yod Venus/Uranus falling in your 1st Moon/SN conjunct Moon/Psyche - waking up your psychic Moon with past life accumulation, right on your IC - it's like having a Super Moon for a moment All that Vertex combination - it must have been felt in the body as wellNN/MC promising some future Valentine/MC - kinda Valentine activated by an angle and the Kite formed that day between luminaries, Uranus and your Chiron/Amor - wake up, Amor!
Aww wonderful! Thanks for your time, sugar IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 02:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Does he have Juno/Alma in his natal?
No. But we have it in composite. ALMA on 20 Taurus conjunct JUNO on 22 Taurus (exact in helio) near the IC on 16 Taurus,w hich has Eros and Priapus there,t oo. I mention this cause both of us had an Eros-Priapus-conjunction with the event chart, AND we have the exact Eros-Priapus-IC in composite as well. lol Anyway that Juno-Alma conjunction in composit is opposing Valentine-Lust-Angel on the MC in scorpio and trine Moon exact and sextile Ceres closely, too. A cradle.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 02:32 PM
btw Moon being impacted most makes sense, as it rules his 5th house, and he was performing, right?his natal Moon is also conjunct my Sun-Mercury-conjunction. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 02:42 PM
as for my love-rulers that would beVenus (5th house) Mercury (7th house) Moon (8th house) In my event-composite, Venus in 2nd house (my value was boosted?) Mercury in 9th house and actually in orb of the AP as well Moon in 1st house, closely conjunct Uranus and Neptune (and boy was I weirded out! ) Midpoints: Venus= none (it was not me performing after all. lol) Mercury= Node/Vertex
Moon= Mercury/Node Sharing emotional thoughts with others.
Moon= Uranus/Neptune the sense of being on the right track to do one's best. Openness to mystical or spiritual influences, the tendency to delve into the mysteries of the other-than-physical. A fit of weakness. Moon= Sun/Pluto (I have that in natal, too ) power and persuasion. emotional intensity.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 02:56 PM
I noticed I have a Pluto-Pallas-Vesta-conjunction in SCorpio in 11th house, with Pluto ruling my natal 11th house as well. It makes sense as I was on the receiving end of the performance, so to speak of. Pluto`s Midpoints
Pluto= Sun/Neptune Extreme sensitivity; use of the spiritual, psychic, or illusory as a force for persuasion Pluto= Sun/Moon Development and transformation of a partnership or marriage. Sweeping changes in partnership, reassessment of old premises, dramatic upsets in the balance of forces, fated or fatefull connection. Pluto=Venus/Vx
Pluto= Mercury/Uranus Tremendous power for work, action, leadership; getting the biggest job done in a commanding way. Over-strained, over-stimulated nerves. To readjust one's own thoughts suddenly Pluto=Mercury/Neptune To see through false pretences. Pluto=Moon/Mercury The necessity of adjusting one's thinking to new conditions; new perspectives; persuasion or being persuaded. Special events (maybe acts of God) re-orient one's thinking. Tragic realisations.
Pluto=ASC/MC Developments or changes in relation to others. Professional changes effect the native's personality.
Also, Jupiter was busy in the chart, being chartruler, and my natal chartruler and so on.
Jupiter=Mars/Pluto Unusual success, enjoyment of one's freedom, publicity.
Jupiter= Venus/Uranus Suddenly manifested love connected with happiness. inspired artistic receptivity. A sudden and passing happiness in love, vacation
Jupiter=Venus/Neptune A rich imagination, romantic reverie, a love of comfort; receptiveness of beauty and art
Happy enthusiasm of love. Temporary happiness in an unfortunate love affair. Only for hours united in happy love. lol
Jupiter=Moon/Venus4 A happy love-life, an abundance of feeling, an affectionate and optimistic disposition. A woman`s love reciprocated
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: btw Moon being impacted most makes sense, as it rules his 5th house, and he was performing, right?
yes, this makes a lot of sense. and the rest is so fit too, like an exact map at least from what you describe... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 03:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Aww wonderful!Thanks for your time, sugar
You're welcome, sweetie! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 14, 2014 03:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: yes, this makes a lot of sense. and the rest is so fit too, like an exact map at least from what you describe...
You can say that. A lot was going on,b ut I leave that aside. That moment was, well, he usually has a notepad with him on stage, no clue what he has on there, song-lyrics? Well he always sais there is only written: "Breathe in, breathe out." Anyway after the break a colleague came onto stage with him, looked at the notepad, chuckled and said to the audience: "I have to read this aloud for you: He wrote: `Breathe in. Breathe out. The lady in the 2nd row, to the far right, is driving me completely crazy. I even messed up my lines during the song xy hugely."
Well, of course it was a joke, and the audience was laughing, and I was laughing, too at first, until the realization hit me WHO was sitting in 2nd row, and from his perspective, on the far right side. Which would have been yours truely.
Mr Sag himself did not look up during that incidence, but kept his head lowered, and averted while singing the song, which is unusual for him.
And event hough this was a joke, he didnīt laugh, nor did his girlfriend btw. Anyway, at the end of the song they had been singing, he was looking at the piano, and on that occasion threw me a glance, almost like he wanted to check, if I still wsa there, or how I was looking or I donīt knwo what.
Much of what came after that, i donīt quite recall, cause i was stil processing the joke. Lol
Which it was, I know, I know, I know. Still, holy smoke! Who is driving whom crazy, hu? IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 777 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 14, 2014 03:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: LeeLeo, i have an important business-related meeting with my crush on Monday We will be alone... Pleeeeaaase have a look. I am begging...I would do anything, just let me know what you would like to have for an exchange. Which chart shall I post?
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 14, 2014 03:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Yes, that is a tight karmic Yod that needs to develop slowly. Could you post: synastry between each of you and the event, and composite between each of you and the event?You too, Indigo, if you want us to delve deeper. You have a very interesting FM chart, Indigo.
Yes I will post them! Slowwwwllllyyyyyy must be the operative word here...that FM chart was 12/17/12...still "developing". Not sure if we will ever have what I hope for. Such a push/pull, runner/chaser theme at play. Me being the one who is always wanting "more" and learning slowly how to back off & let life take it's course. Will post charts . Thank you! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 04:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: *bump*
Obviously, you didn't read my answer ...page 2 IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 777 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 14, 2014 04:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Obviously, you didn't read my answer ...page 2
ah, you're right (re. programing myself and that I did not read your reply) IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 14, 2014 05:03 PM
My FM chart synastry- all times are correct I am on the inside [/URL] IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 14, 2014 05:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Tulipe,how I would interpret the composite between natal and event: Of course, the direct placement of the Sun (the house) and/or house emphasis is revealing, but I would check the significance that house has for the natal - this is the type of partnership for him I would also check the condition (house placement/aspects) of his natal 7th house ruler in this chart, an additional clue to what this partnership means for him Then I would check the condition of the Moon to find out what is the emotional impact of this partnership for him, how it is felt The condition of Venus to know if it's about love Then I would immediately check the superpositions with his natal (if any) - this is how he is impacted Then I would interpret the chart as a normal composite - with rulers and everything - this chart shows what kind of partnerhsip it is for him Normally, all these tell the same story, more or less
Oh yes, how you can come up with these great ideas I don't know . I'm touched by the Yod in the Composite for your father lol, I wonder how would you interpret that Moon conjunct Pluto in 12th. And those two Kite point to Venus/Vertex and Mercury chart ruler, DSC on Venus/Mercury midpoint too, he must have been drunk by love that day lol. Now I'm going to examine my charts , I have Vertex on DSC in my composite with the FM too. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged | |