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Topic: Predictive Love Charts
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 16, 2014 07:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: I'm sorry if I made you feel worse with my joke, I thought you were getting over him. And about the situation. Do you know if he was single when you met?
nah, i am okay.
No, he wasn´t single when we met, though different relationship. lol
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2163 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 16, 2014 07:32 AM
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 08:57 AM
I'm sorry to hear that, Astro Keen Just a first glance, but I'll get back to your charts: Possibility of abuse seen in this man Mars/Uranus/Saturn T square, to which you don't bring a stabilizing leg glance...what you bring there is an additional tension with your Mars opposing his Mars squaring his Uranus. And no soft aspects from you to his T/square either (this whole combo is probably enough, but I'll look deeper) IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 09:06 AM
Can I ask for your ideas about how to read the relocation synastry and composite in comparison to the natal? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8080 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 16, 2014 09:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: nah, i am okay. No, he wasn´t single when we met, though different relationship. lol
Phew, that's good. Damn, that means you had a chance at some point. But you would've probably had to use your psychic powers to figure out when It's such a bad luck you couldn't stay in touch via e-mail, maybe he would've asked you out or something :/ Ehhh. I'm wondering if he too feels a spiritual connection with you. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 11:40 AM
Oh, you posted his...your analysis is everything there is. Tulipe, what do you mean about relocation? In comparison with the event?IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 11:54 AM
Tulipe, I wonder what happens in the synastry with the event for him. And with the Love Chart. You don't have to post them, but what are the overlays and what do those houses mean for him?IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 12:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Oh, you posted his...your analysis is everything there is. Tulipe, what do you mean about relocation? In comparison with the event?
I mean will you look at relocation synastry and composite in relation to the original synastry and composite? (it's an off-topic question, I forgot to say that ) I've never thought about looking at the relocation chart and the FMC, but the IC/MC of the event fall right on my relocated IC/MC. I'll post his synastry with the FMC and do an interpretation for the synastry with the Love Chart after my diner. Bon appetit ladies! ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 12:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: I mean will you look at relocation synastry and composite in relation to the original synastry and composite? (it's an off-topic question, I forgot to say that ) I've never thought about looking at the relocation chart and the FMC, but the IC/MC of the event fall right on my relocated IC/MC. I'll post his synastry with the FMC and do an interpretation for the synastry with the Love Chart after my diner. Bon appetit ladies!
Bon appetit lol Yes, of course, it's a good prediction tool to compare the relocation chart with his natal and do a composite between relocation and his natal. But I wonder if the composite "with reference place" isn't in fact the comparison between the relocation charts...I'm not sure though...I'll check with my own IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 02:09 PM
Astro Keen,this man has a tight Mars/Valentine; Mars in Aries and the 8th, in a tight Uranus square; an out of sign Saturn opp. to Mars; and the point opposing Uranus is more or less Chiron conjunct Union in his 5th. Uranus rules his DSC. All these show this man's violence is triggered in love matters, towards his partner - it has nothing to do with you, these are general issues connected to partnerships for him. Of course your Mars there and the lack of GC completion and of soft aspects to these planets didn't help You also have Moon Pluto and mutual Pluto on ASC, which enhance everything, either very low or very high. But it looks like your Sun was poorly aspected in this synastry anyway. Could you post a synastry with planets only and no "aspect lines to all"?
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2163 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 16, 2014 02:33 PM
You are right about the Uranian traits - a foul and very uncertain temper exacerbated by alcohol, plus mental health issues. Nothing that I did ever worked and my sympathies were soon exhausted (give or take a decade). Which is why the lovey dovey asteroid aspects surprised me.We have Suns sesquisquared, but no aspects between Moons and luminaries. IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Bon appetit lolYes, of course, it's a good prediction tool to compare the relocation chart with his natal and do a composite between relocation and his natal. But I wonder if the composite "with reference place" isn't in fact the comparison between the relocation charts...I'm not sure though...I'll check with my own
I checked and it's not the same. Now I don't know which one to use ^^. The synastry for his natal and FMC He just came out of a Saturn return, a Mars return, Psyche return lol, heavy. The event Angles falls right on his Saturn/North Node/Karma T-square, providing a missing leg with the event's DSC on his 6th house cusp. It's a love karma. The Moon is transiting his South Node/Karma and he met a woman who has Moon conjunct South Node in her natal. Sun in his 9th, Moon in his 3rd: a meeting that is far away from home. At that time transiting Neptune/Destinn in his 4th house forms a Grand Trine to his natal Moon in 8th and Jupiter/Ceres in 12th. The meeting should awaken his protective and nurturing nature. Venus on his 8th house cusp along with Uranus forms an exact Boomerang to his ASC/DSC with Moira/DSC the release point. Love at first sight . But it's just that, I don't know what it means to him. Now for the Love Chart: Sun in his 10th conjunct his Psyche. Karma on his MC, Union on his IC. Mars/Priapus rising on his ASC, lol, good for amorous pursuit. The event Moon on his DSC/Moira/Eros falls in his 7th, I suppose the feelings are fulfilling for him. The event Venus and Saturn makes for a Grand Cross with his Pluto/Venus/POF T-square, the event Amor is also on his Venus in that Cross, powerful feelings are aroused, intense. The event Vesta and Jupiter on his Vertex/Priapus in his 8th house , a union with a vestal.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 03:01 PM
Yeah...wow...your Sun is lonely, not a good relationship for you...your Moon too, apart from Pluto...Moon is not cherished, protected...it receives a quincunx from the same Uranus, I think. You support his stellium with your Venus and Saturn trine NN and with your Moon on his DSC, but don't get much in return I'm sorry you had this experience I'm also glad you got out.IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2163 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 16, 2014 03:08 PM
LeeLoo, Thank you for taking the time to look at this. You're doing great good here for so many people. Having said that, you still have to tell me why my chart is so difficult . IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 16, 2014 03:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Phew, that's good. Damn, that means you had a chance at some point. But you would've probably had to use your psychic powers to figure out when It's such a bad luck you couldn't stay in touch via e-mail, maybe he would've asked you out or something :/ Ehhh. I'm wondering if he too feels a spiritual connection with you.
I think he does. On some strange level.
It really sucks that things are that way, but maybe I wouldn´t have been ready to take that chance,w hen it had presented itself, it took me a while to wake up and get into becoming what I am becoming now. In a weird way I feel sad about it and uplifted. Sad cause well you know. But also uplifted cause I feel validated. Hmm, he has posted a pic of him, his girlfriend and another friend, attending to a musical show yesterday, and seriously neither of them looked very happy.
I have no idea why he made that "joke" or why he let it slip, or what to really think about it or how to process this and, well, I intend to still enjoy musical shows, yes, even with him on stage, but will this start feeling even more awkward now? well as I said I have some processing to do.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 03:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: LeeLoo, Thank you for taking the time to look at this. You're doing great good here for so many people. Having said that, you still have to tell me why my chart is so difficult .
Hahahaha you're welcome! and thanks for the appreciation I didn't say it was difficult, you misunderstood, I said it was interesting. I'll tell you more IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 03:43 PM
His synastry with the love chart is almost UNBELIEVABLY fit...it's crazy!In his comparison with the FM I see: Sun in his 9th - meeting a foreigner Mercury in 9th in connection with Moon in 3rd - someone with whom the mental connection is strong, a woman who understands him on a mental level. ASC and Saturn falling on Saturn and opening his 12th house - issues related to the planets there are brought to the fore. Venus/SN right on the 8th cusp - in tune with your 8th /2nd synastry, plus his 9th is connected to his 2nd house NN on VestaJuno/Uranus mdp - no comment Juno in 1st - a partner, one who boosts his 1st house matters MC on NN Karma - unavoidable follow up Now, I look at the conjunctions to see what he felt, how he felt the impact Mars on Mars - a meeting related to his Mars, to his masculinity Pholus on Sun, Priapus nearby - a surprising meeting perhaps?? you must have produced quite an impression, on the other hand Pluto on Union - transforming Union views Moon there - so karmic , as you said Alma on Venus and Amor right on IC, Neptune on Valentine - a sweet contact, he fell in love Moira on Pholus - more fate POF on POF - quite impressive, still wondering what it means for you to bring so much luck to him in all the charts Vertex on DSC and Eros - an erotic meeting, a partner
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 16, 2014 04:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Pholus on Sun, Priapus nearby - a surprising meeting perhaps?? you must have produced quite an impression, on the other hand
Oh, it is probably. I have this shameful tendency of laughing at my own joke , that day I was telling a joke then I started laughing, when I looked at him, he just stood there staring at me like he just saw an alien . I had to tell him to move lol. Ahhh, sweet memories... quote:
Alma on Venus and Amor right on IC, Neptune on Valentine - a sweet contact, he fell in love
That Amor is...mine . I've had an Amor return that time. quote:
POF on POF - quite impressive, still wondering what it means for you to bring so much luck to him in all the charts
I'm glad I bring him luck, it's my wish for him . In the Composite of his natal and my relocation chart, POF conjunct Vertex in 8th opposite Ceres in 2nd, can you believe it? lol. That Composite also has a 1st house stellium, Saturn conjunct Vesta in 12th. This composite is more in tune with what happens in real life, but I hesitate to put so much importance on it as I still have the Composite with 2 natal charts to consider.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 01:04 PM
Was thinking of putting the asteroids into last friday`s chart, the ones you mentioned. of course the planets are aligned this way all day long, hence i always find interesting what comes up as angular at a certain moment (and also what connects to the Moon).
And just look WHAT had been coincidentally falling right onto the angles. [/URL]
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 17, 2014 01:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Was thinking of putting the asteroids into last friday`s chart, the ones you mentioned. of course the planets are aligned this way all day long, hence i always find interesting what comes up as angular at a certain moment (and also what connects to the Moon).
And just look WHAT had been coincidentally falling right onto the angles. [/URL]
wow..yes...and Amor conjunct POF with Moon. There's also an interesting pattern with Psyche, connected to Union/Vertex and MC/IC. Not to mention Venus Saturn right on angles. Practically, ASC/DSC is right on the CCross, with Valentine. Ceres on top of the chart trines Psyche and Sun and makes a Kite with Union/Vertex. It's a pretty chart.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 01:58 PM
"wow..yes...and Amor conjunct POF with Moon." Yes, noticed that, too. " There's also an interesting pattern with Psyche, connected to Union/NN and MC/IC. " In our composite Psyche is on the Antivertex, plus we have a one degree Psyche-Psyche-conjunction at 24 and 25 Aquarius, so ALMOST a Psyche-return. lol "Not to mention Venus Saturn right on angles" This one`s interesting. REsriction probably.
Venus on my name asteroid, Saturn exactly squaring my Moon. However, as restrictive that sounds, I remember last time we talked last november, Tr Saturn was on 16 Scorpio, but direct motion, and Tr Venus on 16 Capricorn.
How are the odds? Interestingly our composite MC is 16 Scorpio as well and composite Venus on 16 Cap. lol . IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 01:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Ceres on top of the chart trines Psyche and Sun and makes a Kite with Union/Vertex. It's a pretty chart.
it is. And it was a pretty surprising experience. Not that it really changes anythng. lol
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 17, 2014 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Not to mention Venus Saturn right on angles" This one`s interesting. REsriction probably.
Venus on my name asteroid, Saturn exactly squaring my Moon. However, as restrictive that sounds, I remember last time we talked last november, Tr Saturn was on 16 Scorpio, but direct motion, and Tr Venus on 16 Capricorn.
How are the odds? Interestingly our composite MC is 16 Scorpio as well and composite Venus on 16 Cap. lol .
It looks like this is not a separative aspect for you, something happens between you when this axis is activated. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14160 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 02:58 PM
Yes, it surprised me, I woul dhave though Saturn to this axis, especially with Venus, would be separative. Well it still keeps us apart after all I think. lol Well in the composite PRIAPUS and EROS are conjunct the IC on 16 Taurus, so I guess there must be some fuel underneath. Uranus is near to the MC (Uranus on 12 Scorpio), and is chartruler.
WE both have a Capricorn-Venus-natally, maybe that figures into the SAturnian theme. Some kind of resonance with it. His is also trine SAturn, and Saturn being on his DESC.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4553 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 21, 2014 11:17 AM
Another predictive method:The Davison chart is a metaphorical projection of the meeting/relationship in time and space, like an independent "entity" with its own time and space - another metaphorical look at the relationship. By comparing it to each other's natal, one can gather additional clues as to what the relationship means to that person: conjunctions/oppositions, significant patterns and house overlays. The Davison planets fall in the natal houses most impacted by the relationship. the natal planets fall in the Davison houses where the natal pays his/her most important contribution. By casting the composite between Davison and the natal, one can gather more additional clues on how meaningful this relationship is, what houses are highlighted, of course, in an even more metaphorical way. These "clues" usually tell the same story. The Davison chart can be saved as an individual chart in astro.com, so all these comparisons are possible. IP: Logged | |