posted June 21, 2014 11:06 AM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
^^^

Same with me, no aspect to the ruler of my 7th and 8th, no attraction.
Ancient astrologers placed great importance on rulers (Lords ) of the houses and the condition of the Lords, especially in horary chars.

My sister has the same Asc/Dsc as Ben Affleck, but her Saturn ( 7 and 8 house ruler) is located in her 9th house. Her husband doesnt put anything in her 7, 8 and 9 house . But He puts 4 planets, including venus, in her 12th house. Well, it turned out that her Saturn - the ruler of her 7th and 8th house - is in Pisces!!! How fitting for a 12 house overlay! Her Saturn, the ruler, squares his Venus from the 12th.

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Oh, so they have the Venus Saturn square! How does it work for them? Is it isolated? DW? What happens to Venus/Saturn in the composite?

posted June 21, 2014 11:47 AM            

My mom has her Saturn square my dad's Venus
And my sister has her Saturn square her hubby's Venus

Both 0 degree squares, not DW

posted June 21, 2014 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is a very touching story, Orange ...thanks for sharing!
And the explanation for Venus Saturn is so emblematic...

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posted June 21, 2014 01:35 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
Yes, my lovely, Saturn and Venus is love despite obstacles.
Generally, Every planet that touches Venus evokes love.
That being said, i am so not worried about your Saturn squaring my Venus exact.

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hehehe of course...why would you be worried...I'm the "suffering" one...you just get to be adored

posted June 21, 2014 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I haven't looked at the charts yet, but as far as I know from celeb gossip, she's a "material girl" with a love for cash and glamor while he's more laid back, normal and intellectual. They were a terrible match from his POV. (maybe hers too, in the end) Probably they connected through their Sun sign initially.

Looking at the charts now

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Honestly, she the more laid back while Ben's more into ladder climbing. She's very ambitious professionally, however. In her most recent divorce, she followed her usual pattern: leaving with what she came in to the marriage with, plus her earnings.

posted June 21, 2014 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
hehehe of course...why would you be worried...I'm the "suffering" one...you just get to be adored

On a serious note now, most descriptions however show Venus's love being rejected/restricted by Saturn sometimes when Venus Saturn hard aspects are involved (especially square and opposition) - unrequited love????

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Yes, ive read that many times and its applicable but only
If Venus is the more attracted one and the weaker one, thats based on the whole synastry. Remember, Saturn is fear, so Saturn is the one worried about rejection and is inferior to Venus initially, hence the "coldish and restrictive" mechanism in order to get Venus captured under their foot. If , however, Venus doesnt yield to Saturn, Saturn develops a fixation on Venus and a pretty consistent one at that.

posted June 21, 2014 02:46 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
Yes, ive read that many times and its applicable but only
If Venus is the more attracted one and the weaker one, thats based on the whole synastry. Remember, Saturn is fear, so Saturn is the one worried about rejection and is inferior to Venus initially, hence the "coldish and restrictive" mechanism in order to get Venus captured under their foot. If , however, Venus doesnt yield to Saturn, Saturn develops a fixation on Venus and a pretty consistent one at that.

If there is not other or less strong attraction factors in the synastry or attraction is only on the side of Venus, then Saturn wont have a problem giving them a cold shoulder - the unrequited love situation.
In the case of my parents - my mom's Venus conjuncted dad's Sun, she really adored everything about him. He was an elusive Pisces, so her Saturn couldnt tap him under the water, her Saturn chased after his Venus for half a century.

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posted June 21, 2014 03:39 PM            

I found this on that opposition....

Saturn and Neptune are entirely opposite functions so when they come together, whether by conjunction, square or opposition, they can blend their principles in a positive way or bring out the worst in each other. In simple terms, the dreams of Neptune can be made real by Saturn and Saturn's hard line can be softened by Neptune. Yet, on the minus side, Neptune can erode the Saturnian structures that give substance and form to society and provide safety and security for us all, while Saturn can crush our Neptunian spirit, our hopes and dreams, and ride roughshod over the weak, the poor and the underprivileged.

In terms of archetypes, we might perceive Saturn as the law-enforcer, the scientist and the sceptic and Neptune as the artist, mystic, healer and helper - one has little in common with the other yet without each other life would spiral into Neptunian chaos or become a relentless Saturnian prison. A Saturn-Neptune opposition thus represents the inherent battle between control and the Establishment, on the one hand, and freedom and socialism on the other: it is idealism versus conformity, religion versus science, feelings as opposed to facts.

In personal terms, those of us born under a Saturn-Neptune opposition may grow up with a deep fascination for the national and international events bearing its signature. We may experience a conflict between the necessity to conform, to live up to society's expectations and those of our parents, and the desire to escape, to live out our dreams, and to answer to a higher power, rather than adhering to man-made laws. An element of sacrifice will be called for and a more than average number of rejections and losses to contend with in life. And always a dilemma between acknowledging one's limitations and seeking to transcend them.

Hard Saturn-Neptune angles could be said to inspire a psychology of despair, thus those things that respond to the subtle tides of life - the economy, fashion, the arts and the media for instance - are likely to enter a dark phase.

posted June 25, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I haven't looked at the charts yet, but as far as I know from celeb gossip, she's a "material girl" with a love for cash and glamor while he's more laid back, normal and intellectual. They were a terrible match from his POV. (maybe hers too, in the end) Probably they connected through their Sun sign initially.

Looking at the charts now

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posted June 30, 2015 11:04 PM            

Even though the film Daredevil is comedically horrendous, the chemistry he has with Garner is palpable. It's not just physical, either. These two have some very potent energy between them. I'm always a little taken aback when I see it.

Similar to Anderson and Duchovny.

I'm surprised that they're splitting, but then again, ten years is a long time for a Hollywood marriage. It's often sparked by some fantastic transits and buoyed by amazing chemistry. Then they do some (hopefully) great projects together, possibly have some ridiculously privileged kids, and call it quits once the sheen has worn off.

Too bad. The 'sheen' isn't quite as glowing as it used to be between them, but it doesn't seem gone, either. At least they have genuine respect and appreciation for each other. That's encouraging. Far better than it went for Branagh and Thompson, but then again, infidelity was the grounds for that divorce, by which Emma was affected deeply. That was really tragic, too. I loved the way they lit up the screen.

Anna and Stephen are adorable, though. She's sweet; he's kinda quiet, which I respect. They were only engaged when we met, but it doesn't seem as if the spark has dwindled any between them. (And Lilac is precious.) They've got the definite 'glow', though it's brighter with her. He's much more 'internalised', though -- and those eyes. Lasers. Funny for a SUN-JUPITER, (in Libra) but his VENUS conjunct PLUTO (even in Virgo) is strong, indeed.)

I'm kinda meh on Goodwin and Dallas. They never thrilled me on the show they're starring on together. The fact that it's a new marriage tells me it's likely flash-in-the-pan, too. Alas, we shall see.

posted July 01, 2015 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by page one:
Aniston?

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posted July 01, 2015 02:02 AM            

ETA:

Jennifer 24.02 Virgo
Jenny 20.12 Scorpio

Neither do anything major. I expected to see a tight conjunction with a personal planet. Jennifer conjunct Ceres 1 degree. His Sun square Jenny by 2 degrees, Jenny conjunct his Black Moon Lilith 1 degree.

posted July 01, 2015 02:57 AM            

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Originally posted by page one:
They never had a relationship.

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Yeah, I get Lopez and Aniston confused by name frequently. Who was Aniston with again? Pitt, right?

posted July 01, 2015 03:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
What is asteroid Jennifer doing in his chart?

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Jennifer 24.02 Virgo
Jenny 20.12 Scorpio

Neither do anything major. I expected to see a tight conjunction with a personal planet. Jennifer conjunct Ceres 1 degree. His Sun square Jenny by 2 degrees, Jenny conjunct his Black Moon Lilith 1 degree.

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posted May 02, 2021 02:40 PM            

He followed his Venus in Cancer in the end when it came to marriage and settled down with a wholesome Midwest gal. Plus Jen Garner's Aries Sun in his H10 was better for his career in the end - he was seen as a pretty boy joke when with J.Lo

Real question is whether we think Ben is a Scorpio or Libra Moon...

posted May 02, 2021 04:58 PM            

Wait a min, that would make J.Lo and Ben BOTH Leo Suns with Scorpio Moons! Perhaps the sign similarity wore the novelty down quite early? Maybe they could've lasted if at least one of them was a Scorpio Sun, Leo Moon instead..

Though I will say I could see Jennifer Lopez as a Sag Moon conj Mars. She has the exotic angle, she really skyrocketed to fame when she put aside her Puerto Rican/Boricua identity and played a Mexican icon (Selena). Plus she's known for having a million different men/husbands (supposedly Liz Taylor was a Sag rising).