posted July 02, 2014 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
So they are all part of the same thing..... Just different parts??
Your aspects seem very intense!! I hope they show when things will come together....

OMG...I love it....i put this out there at 11:11, according to my phone..I guess it's different on the sit?? Darn it!!

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From what I have found, Siva and Kali have 1008 names each. For example, Shiva means Always Pure, Rudra means The Terrible. Kali means time, death, black, but when learn the mythology it isn't dark.

"Kali is the Hindu goddess (or Devi) of death, time, and doomsday and is often associated with sexuality and violence but is also considered a strong mother-figure and symbolic of motherly-love. Kali also embodies shakti - feminine energy, creativity and fertility - and is an incarnation of Parvati, wife of the great Hindu god Shiva. She is most often represented in art as a fearful fighting figure with a necklace of heads, skirt of arms, lolling tongue, and brandishing a knife dripping with blood.

Kali’s name derives from the Sanskrit meaning ‘she who is black’ or ‘she who is death’, but she is also known as Chaturbhuja Kali, Chinnamastā, or Kaushika. As an embodiment of time Kali devours all things, she is irresistibly attractive to mortals and gods, and can also represent (particularly in later traditions) the
benevolence of a mother goddess." http://www.ancient.eu.com/Kali/

I use Kali mantra to dispell fear. Kali and Shiva remind us that we are not our bodies. They remind us that the body is temporary and when we no longer identify with the body we can be liberated from our egos.

I have looked at Siva/Kaali/Parvati and to a lesser extent Rudra pretty extensively. I even see them making aspects in transit charts.

For example, in my guys chart to the first meeting (max orb around 2)

Mercury sq Kaali
BML cj Kali/sextile Siva/quintile Parvati
Ceres sq Parvati
Karma sq Parvati
Osiris sq parvati
Isis sq Parvati
My name cj kaali exact, sextile Siva and quintile Parvati
kaali ss Isis/sextile Psyche and Cupido
Parvati (which is cj my NN) ss Pallas/sextile his name/cj Valentine/sq Eros
Siva sq his name

Wow, that is the first time I realized that Kaali cj my name exactly @ 18 28 Virgo, which in his chart also cj Akashi and BML and cj my ascendant. And Siva was squaring his name. Osiris and Isis are strong too, maybe stronger than Siva and Kaali.

Gabby, how do you keep track of all your asteroids? The other night I had a dream I got a huge Astro wall chart and every asteroid was documented on it!

posted July 02, 2014 11:07 AM            

His 29 Libra
Cj Jupiter 28 Libra
Sq my Hyperborea 28 Cap
Trine Vertex 29 Aqua
Oppose Juno 1 Taurus (DW)
Oppose Ceres 29 Aries
Semisex Neptune 28 Scorp
Qc Cupid 29 Pisces
Widely cj Union 24 but is a DW

His Hyperborea trines his SN 1 pisces and my NN 3 Pisces. Also sextiles his Siva at 1 Aqua and oppose my Kaali at 3 Taurus.

My Hyperborea 28 Cap
Opposes Juno 26 Cancer (DW)
Sq Union 1 Scorp (DW)
Trine Saturn 27 Virgo
Trine his name 29 Taurus
Sq his Hyperborea

Mine semi-sextiles and qc our Nodes at a 2 and 5 degree orb, which I know is getting wide but is showing a pattern.

In Comp:
Hyperborea 14 Sag
Oppose Juno 13 Gemini
Semi-sex Venus 15 Scorp
Sq pholus 12 Pisces
Sextile Cupido 12 Aqua

In Davison
Hyperborea 22 Sag
Sextiles Mars and Amor 23 Aqua
Trines Chiron 23 Aries
Widely sq Mercury 26 Pisces and opposes Karma 27 Gemini

Our Davison Hyperborea is at 22 22 which means your manifestation will soon be evident. Reaping of rewards is just ahead of you.

posted July 02, 2014 12:34 PM              

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Originally posted by tphoenix5:
Jeff Green the author of Pluto and a renowned astrologer gives a lot of attention to varying souls such as twinflame but he has different labels for them. You might want to check out his Pluto 2 book and see. It has been such a long time but his look at this through studying 10s of thousands of charts is at least worth a look see.

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posted July 02, 2014 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by tphoenix5:
Jeff Green the author of Pluto and a renowned astrologer gives a lot of attention to varying souls such as twinflame but he has different labels for them. You might want to check out his Pluto 2 book and see. It has been such a long time but his look at this through studying 10s of thousands of charts is at least worth a look see.

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posted July 02, 2014 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yeesss! Thanks for that, Gabby. I suggested a while ago Hyperborea must be connected with TF markers - it's another symbol for the "mythical land" where people live in their "godly" form, their higher selves, their final form, so it makes sense TF reunions to be connected to a Hyperborean state. Also, Hyperborea with its Arctic connection suggests a "place between worlds", a spiritual state rather than a physical one (extreme environments are devoid of their carnal, material meaning and they have a spiritual connotation).

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Lol...I've mentioned it before also but nobody said anything so I figured I was wrong!
Another one I wonder about is PortaCoeli, it's exact on my Hyperborea.
His PortaCoeli is exact sextile my Jupiter
My PortaCoeli is exact sextile his Jupiter
PortaCoeli is the "Gate to Heaven"
Jupiter is blessings from the universe...so it makes sense to me?

posted July 02, 2014 07:13 PM            

Our Osiris cap@3.18
My natal Hyperborea cap@1.48
My natal PortaCoeli cap@1.28
My Dimitrov taurus @1.12
His Heimdal cap@2.22
His Hubble taurus@4.28
Our Ohm virgo@2.33
His Union scorp@2.03
His Utopia scorp@3.07
My Kaali scorp@2.14
My Uranus scorp@4.44
My Ute scorp@3.17

My Cydonia saggy@1.25
My Soulie saggy@0.20
My Parvarti saggy@0.59
His Hoshi-no-mura saggy@3.03
Our Ash saggy@2.06
Neptune saggy@0.12
Our Sphinx saggy@1.37
His Ute libra@2.44
Our Pluto libra@3.05
Our Kamuimintara libra@3.08
His Parvarti aries@

Our Cydonia virgo@11.03
Our PortaCoeli cap@11.10
His Unitas cancer@11.30
His Saturn taurus@11.00
His SN virgo@10.25
My Juno virgo@12.30
My Osiris pisces@10.42
His Kamuimintara virgo@13.13
His Part of Fortune gemini@12.41

My Neptune saggy@11.02
Comp Destin leo@11.02
Comp Hypnos leo@10.25
My Anubis aries@9.36
His Gaea aries@10.42
His Alma aries@10.41
His Devine aries@13.27
His Giza gemini@13.37
His Atlantis leo@13.13

His Ambrosia aries@15.00
His Soulie lbra@15.11
My Jupiter aries@15.05
Our Heisei libra@15.14
Our Mars gem@16.38
Our Alma gemini@16.19
Our Sootiyo gemini@16.52
His Euphemia gemini@14.41
His Giza gemini@13.37
My Psyche gemini@15.28
My Neptune saggy@11.02
His Dimitrov saggy@14.41
Our Chiron aries@16.03

Our DeSanctis cap@16.59
Our NN cap@16.04
Our Hyperborea cap@16.22
His Hypnos cap@16.06
My Rudra cap@16.28
His Ohm cancer@15.03

posted July 02, 2014 07:21 PM            

These are some very spiritually inclined and I've found some very interesting aspects esp to

Kamuimintara (4410)-Playground of the Gods

Hubble(2069)-The expanding universe; the ability to see;an awareness of;to measure the expanding universe. This is the place you have the greatest ability to understand life beyond humanity.

CYDONIA CITY OF THE ANGELS
There is so much to say here, that I must take more time before even starting. There are both exact correlations in the bible, in egypt , and in hyperdimensional physics that are staggering.

According to the former Chief of the Celestial Mechanics Branch of the U.S. Naval Observatory, astronomer Thomas Van Flandern, Mars may once having been the satellite of a former major 10th planet of the solar system, that once orbited between current Jupiter and Mars. Sixty-five million years ago, for some currently unknown reason (according to Van Flandern's 25-year-old theory ) -- that planet suddenly exploded!

The City at Cydonia on Mars and surrounding structures appear to be the Anunnaki trans-shipment base spoken of in the ancient Sumerian texts. The Annunnaki sent the gold which they needed to fix their home planet's atmosphere from Earth to Mars to await the reapproach of Nibiru on it's 3600 year elliptical orbit. Thus , these structures will likely be found to have been constructed circa. 250,000 B.C., depending on how soon after gold shipments began that the Anunnaki decided to utilize the base.

A striking characteristic of the pyramids and Sphinx of Giza is the way in which they are integrated into a grand architectural plan, based on mathematical and astronomical data. There is no evidence that the pyramids were used as tombs. What is certain is that two narrow shafts emanating from inside the Great Pyramid were directed to two specific stars: Zeta Orionis, one of the three stars in Orion's belt, and Sirius, in the constellation of Canis Major. It is certain, too, that the principal Giza monuments form an accurate terrestrial 'map' of the three stars of Orion's belt as these constellations appeared in 10,500 BC.

A salty sea once washed over the plains of Mars at the Opportunity rover's landing site, creating a life-friendly environment more earthlike than any known on another world, NASA scientists announced today.

posted July 02, 2014 08:44 PM            

Comp-
Saturn gemini@21.58
Juno gemini@19.24
Giza gemini@18.41
Sun aqua@19.04
Uranus libra@20.11
Ute libra@18.01
Unitas aries@18.14
Soma aries@18.56
Ilmatar leo@19.18
Hakone libra@18.27
Sekhemet cap@19.50
Kaali cap@19.00
Jupiter cap@22°54
Dimitrov aqua@23.00
Ur Aries@23.30

His-
Cydonia gemini@20.41
Ur aqua@21.25
Telephus cap@20.10
PortaCoeli cap@20.51
Eros cap@20.32
Heisei cancer@18.21
Ambrosia cap@18.07
Hybris cancer@21.08
Psyche aries@20.09
Ash aqua@19.17
Sekhemet aqua@20.43
Siva gemini @18.20
Ilse aries@23.23
Eureka aries@25.08

posted July 02, 2014 09:43 PM              

Ah, spiritual asteroids! The ones below present many interlinked aspects in our charts - one of high SM relationship, mainly because they are conjunct natal points and planets.
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Kamuimintara (how lyrical)
conj his vertex (0)
conj my fifth house cusp (0) - telling!

Hyperborea
conj my Uranus and Panacea in 12th
conj his Neptune - plenty of synastry aspects with both (e.g. conj my Karma/SUN)

Hubble
conj my IC

Porta Ceoli
conj his SGC (0) and Jupiter (1)
His Porta Ceoli conj my Spirit, quintile my Kamuimintara (0), sextile my Hyperborea/Uranus (0), semisext my Sun

posted July 02, 2014 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Gabby,

Ah, spiritual asteroids! The ones below present many interlinked aspects in our charts - one of high SM relationship, mainly because they are conjunct natal points and planets.
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Kamuimintara (how lyrical)
conj his vertex (0)
conj my fifth house cusp (0) - telling!

Hyperborea
conj my Uranus and Panacea in 12th
conj his Neptune - plenty of synastry aspects with both (e.g. conj my Karma/SUN)

Hubble
conj my IC

Porta Ceoli
conj his SGC (0) and Jupiter (1)
His Porta Ceoli conj my Spirit

Cydonia - synastry - all exact
my Cydonia quintile his NN, trine his Juno
his Cydonia trine my Hubble, sextile my MC

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Those are very meaning aspects!! Those asteroids I feel show the transformation and where our soul returns to after we are done learning and accomplished our mission here!
So to be a huge part of our TF/Soulmate relationships are to me very telling of the relationships purpose!

This is so great!! Thank you for looking, I'm really impressed with these aspects!!

posted July 02, 2014 10:36 PM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Those are very meaning aspects!! Those asteroids I feel show the transformation and where our soul returns to after we are done learning and accomplished our mission here!
So to be a huge part of our TF/Soulmate relationships are to me very telling of the relationships purpose!

This is so great!! Thank you for looking, I'm really impressed with these aspects!!

Here is the other reference I love for meanigful "good asteroids"
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001744.html

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OK, that is cheering! Whatever else might come to pass with this relationship.

posted July 02, 2014 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
OK, that is cheering! Whatever else might come to pass with this relationship.

I'm updating that thread now in the LL Ref Library. Did you see? Will add these new asteroids. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000004.html

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Sweet!! I think if we can focus less on the stress of these relationships and more on the purpose we can quit stifling our progress by hurting. Then start moving in a positive direction, that in my opinion, will allow these relationship to manifest...if that whats destined to happen!
In the mean time, we have a direction and don't just have to sit around hurting(as much)!

Do you want to add the asteroids from the thread I posted to that thread?
I have another thread that has some I think I could be added also....I noticed Telephus isn't on there either!

posted July 02, 2014 11:31 PM              

Certainly astrology helps one to focus on the deeper implications, which lessen anxiety, and hence, allow for potentials to be realised. It has done for me many times . However, could there be a danger of viewing a relationship in an idealistic way if and when it is clearly failing to realise its potential?

posted July 03, 2014 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Very wise, Gabby.

Certainly astrology helps one to focus on the deeper implications, which lessen anxiety, and hence, allow for potentials to be realised. However, could there be a danger of looking at it in an idealistic way when it is clearly failing to realise its potential?

One could, of course, argue endlessly that more time is needed, that the astrology looks good, and that positive attitudes would beget positive outcomes, etc., etc. So, where does one draw a line? I suppose that is an unanswerable question.

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Honestly, I don't think it matters if you chose to look at it as a gauge or guide instead of something that has to become "something".
If you look at it as a gauge or a guide that gives you a way to measure your personal growth, gain knowledge of how to grow and let it give incentive to grow your able to progress no matter if it's physically happening or just spiritually happening!
Maybe it really is the spiritual awakening of the relationship that is important or maybe the relationship is meant to have a placebo affect on you that gets you over the hurdle of fear and able to allow yourself to progress?
If that's the case I believe once you get over the fear of moving past needing others and realizing your ok, just you yourself alone....the relationship has done it's job.

I believe if that's all that is meant to come of these relationships, by the time we grow and become the person we want to be we will realize we didn't do it for someone else we did it for ourselves, we loved ourselves by proxy, or through the relationship we found our ability to love ourself, found happiness hidden inside and we do not need to revolve around another person to be happy. We found out we are strong within ourselves, we found the inner peace and happiness the relationship was meant to bring us.
It may not be the person...it may be what the relationship drives us to do, to grow!
With growth we find all the happiness we wanted...inside our self with no need for anyone else to be there. We feel happiness because we found our inner beauty and see it in a way that sustains us!
The need for another is based in a fear....its very human to fear being incomplete, because we are alone.

Fear kills love and that kind if fear kills our ability to look at our self and see we could be just as, if not more happy, with our own love, love for ourself.
The angels don't need to be partnered up do they??
When we come to earth, we are given the job of procreating.....to procreate, fill the earth and subdue it means we need a partner!
If we don't have a partner we cannot fulfill our purpose...so naturally we have fear of not having a partner, without a partner we fail, we fear that failure!

I believe part of rising to the new energy vibrations, that will ultimately end our need for the "human experience", will be realizing needing another is the same as saying "I'm not good enough, I can't meet my own needs if I'm alone"
That belief is fear based but that is part of being human, it's not part of the real US....it's only part of the "US" we experience as we go through this stage, the stage we are slowly outgrowing!

It makes sense our human journey would start out with fear of being alone!
Fear is necessary to begin the human journey because the journey is about learning how to overcome fear. Learning how to be strong enough to see through fear, learning it's tactics to take us down, learning it's disguises and not allowing fear to destroy our ability to let love rule, let our hearts lead and our egos to be in subjection to our heart.
In end of the human journey, you will begin the process of returning to your spiritual way of thinking.
This includes realizing what fear is, seeing through it and how to beat it....you will realize you are whole and don't need a partner to be ok!
It's like things will happen that will make you wake up and suddenly see how whole and perfect you are, your not lonely or missing something when your not paired up...your simply you, with no one else there....period!

You will begin to see YOU are complete, just you alone makes an active, viable, amazing, strong, capable, perfect spirit being!
Even if we forgot, we are not anything different from the angels.
We come from the same energy as they do, they do not need a partner and we don't either.
So we forget who we are and believe we are just the human form we see in the mirror everyday?? That's ok!!

Still the only difference between us and the angels is they remember who they are....they should they have it easy! We are the ones who chose to take on this earthy mission, get lost after we fall in the rabbit hole and forget our origins...why?
Because we chose to!
We willingly raised our beautiful perfect angelic hands and I said I volunteer to go there, to earth and learn what it feels like to hurt so I can also learn what it feels like to forgive and learn the deepest strength of love....compassion for others even as they stumble and drag us down with them.
We knew there is no other way to learn that compassion, forgiveness or self sacrificing love without hurting also, so we said yes...I will do that!

The angels that love us remember who we are, they know we are doing something huge, that's why they never leave us and when we call on them they are waiting, so ready to help! We are here to learn a love deeper than what the angels know...a love that hurts and yet for some reason we keep longing to love, we know deep inside it's only love that can change everything, it can makes things beautiful even after everything has fallen apart and nothing else could save us, love can.

Once our spirit moves to the physical form and the demands of keeping humanity going by procreating become part of who we are we immediately begin to lose touch with where we came from and who we are.
We feel thrown out, abandoned and forgotten by our heavenly friends but it's the furthest from the truth....but to truly appreciate what we have we must suffer, we will lose it and then find the way to regain it so we never question what we have again.
When you have something without working for it, it's easy to take for granted...but when it's taken away and you have to walk through hell to finally find it again, you will NEVER allow yourself to lose it or forget what it means to you.
So we were the ones who decided, "I will suffer and bring back all I learned so everyone can feel it and gain a deeper understanding of who God is because God is love"
We all get closer and closer to God the deeper we understand who he is. If we want to be like God, knowing good and bad, we must go through what he's went through....the pain, suffering and the fear in order to know it's gnaw and not fall for it. It's the strength of love that will destroy fear, the darkness, evil and/or pain!

To know evil we must be willing to lose our naivety and our shelter from the bad, or the fear.
In order to grow to understand Gods love and become like God, knowing good and evil, learning the strength to be able to see through fear, always chose the light over darkness, forgiveness over retaliation, compassion over hate, spirit over ego, love that rises and squashes fear before it has a chance to grow roots and manifest into life, we must live it and conquer it for ourselves.

I think TF reconnect us to our origin, it sparks emotional memories of who we are....they reconnect us to our hope, our ability to feel the peace we knew, the childlike innocence, our family and bring to life our desire to rise above this "human experience" to feel connected to our home.
But that can only happen if we see the relationship as a spiritual journey, not always a physical one....but if becomes a physical everyday life event it's because your being rewarded for seeing the true beauty of what the relationship brought you, it brought you back home so you could see your beauty and feel connected to the universe by losing the fear of being incomplete and unworthy of love.

posted July 03, 2014 02:08 AM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Does that mean I don't love my TF? Absolutely not!
Does it mean I don't want him? Absolutely not!
Does it mean if I was with him I wouldn't feel that he completes some part of me? I would definitely feel he does!
What it does mean is if I was with him, he would allow my strength to grow and I would encourage his to grow also. It means I wouldn't fear losing him....I would know I would be ok and without that fear I wouldn't be oppressive, over bearing, overly emotional, take things to serious, or stress him out trying to get him to be something I need that I cannot give to myself! My love wouldn't be a weight that hard to carry or become a burden for him, which is the reason most love dies.
Simply...it means I would be light hearted and happy in our relationship! That alone allows ppl to flow into new places, love builds , fear destroys!

My fears wouldn't become his problem and hinderance to growth, my love would inspire instead of trap or confine his soul and his would do the same for me.

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I agree with that.

Actually I think that is the major pull I feel to Mr Sag (twinflame or not, doesn´t really matter).

The undercurrent, what I gain from what to an external observer must seem like delusional onesided whatever, but what I gain from is is simply joy and a feeling of carefreeness.

I had forgotten how this feels like until I met him, and instantly it was like I remembered "myself", how that inner me, the child-me maybe, had been, or with what awe and wonder she would look out at the world, being 3 years old, hugging her mother and exlaiming. "mommy, life is so beautiful."

Until I met him, I did not even know this girl was still inside of me, but also since I met him, I can`t look at the world differently than that anymroe.

Of course I have my temporary relapses into doubt, insecurity, rationalization and whatever, but I am always bouncing back to that very simple state of consciousness, living or feeling. This "life is beautiful" feeling.

It`s always very strongly there whenever I see him, and am in physical proximity especially, like his energy triggers this feeling in me (and it IS a real boost).

But I also think that this only happens, because HIS energy reflects back to me something about myself.

The first thought that shot through my mind in 2008, when I really took notice of him was this songtitle: "You remind me of who I really am."

posted July 03, 2014 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I agree with that.

Actually I think that is the major pull I feel to Mr Sag (twinflame or not, doesn´t really matter).

The undercurrent, what I gain from what to an external observer must seem like delusional onesided whatever, but what I gain from is is simply joy and a feeling of carefreeness.

I had forgotten how this feels like until I met him, and instantly it was like I remembered "myself", how that inner me, the child-me maybe, had been, or with what awe and wonder she would look out at the world, being 3 years old, hugging her mother and exlaiming. "mommy, life is so beautiful."

Until I met him, I did not even know this girl was still inside of me, but also since I met him, I can`t look at the world differently than that anymroe.

Of course I have my temporary relapses into doubt, insecurity, rationalization and whatever, but I am always bouncing back to that very simple state of consciousness, living or feeling. This "life is beautiful" feeling.

It`s always very strongly there whenever I see him, and am in physical proximity especially, like his energy triggers this feeling in me (and it IS a real boost).

But I also think that this only happens, because HIS energy reflects back to me something about myself.

The first thought that shot through my mind in 2008, when I really took notice of him was this songtitle: "You remind me of who I really am."

he is so different than me, and yet, it is true though, he reminds me of who I really am. And who I really am is happy, carefree and at peace with me and all, knowing that life is beautiful and so worth living, and that everything`s alright. Always. Even if sometimes I have to be reminded of this (the traps of my mind I suppose).

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Thank you Ceri for understanding what I was saying! Sometimes I think ppl must think I'm crazy because most ppl fear feeling what we are talking about feeling , until they feel it.
Then they either want to hold into it so tight they suffocate it or they run from it because it's different and they don't understand their role or place in it. They fear the unknown and run.....but I think if twin flames can come to know themselves through, just as you said, the mirror image they reflect back n forth to each other...they can grow to understand themselves better and become stronger for themselves.
Your right these relationships are meant for us to become who we are meant to be.
Maybe at first we do it for them(or it potentially seems that way)but as they reflect this growth back to us, eventually it will be for ourselves because we will come to believe in ourselves through that carefree energy and that mirror reflection showing what we look like without all that unnecessary fear and burden.
But we have to open to it...instead of afraid.

I adore the carefree energy you talked about...it's like you could just lay next to each other and giggle for days straight, do you feel that?

posted July 03, 2014 03:10 AM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
I never looked at the Davison before, we have Juno and Alma cj and my name cj Sun, his name cj Moon.

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posted July 03, 2014 03:18 AM              

Just saw it - time difference. Lovely, lovely thoughts as usual. So meaningful!

posted July 03, 2014 03:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Honestly, I don't think it matters if your looking at it not as something that has to become "something" , but your looking at it as a gauge or a guide that gives you a way to measure your personal growth and with knowledge of how and incentive to grow your able to progress.

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THIS. THAT is what I've come to echo more than anything. It's been more true in my experience than anything else so far.

Yes, the relationship matters -- it definitely matters. Since mine and I buried the hatchet, it's going very well. We know he has a tendency to inject negativity into text, so we've instead been pretty regularly on the phone; one, the first, kinda chatty and finding our footing again. The second, very meaningful and confronting issues. The third, exploring the issue he's having, and honestly, his being grateful we're back in each other's lives -- in a more real fashion. After all, he DID reestablish it, by seeing me in May.

posted July 03, 2014 04:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Don't you dare delete your post Gabby!

Just saw it - time difference. Lovely, lovely thoughts as usual. So meaningful!

Your Saturn on my Uranus/ Hyperborea sorting me out .

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posted July 03, 2014 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
THIS. THAT is what I've come to echo more than anything. It's been more true in my experience than anything else so far.

Yes, the relationship matters -- it definitely matters. Since mine and I buried the hatchet, it's going very well. We know he has a tendency to inject negativity into text, so we've instead been pretty regularly on the phone; one, the first, kinda chatty and finding our footing again. The second, very meaningful and confronting issues. The third, exploring the issue he's having, and honestly, his being grateful we're back in each other's lives -- in a more real fashion. After all, he DID reestablish it, by seeing me in May.

So, it HAS importance. But it's a gauge of US. As individuals. THAT's what's key.

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Yes, EXACTLY!!! It's hugely important, just not for the exact reason it appears to be important. If it moves you to grow....and feel your origins, you know it's a celestial, destined, perfect union even if it looks so wrong by all "human" standards of how relationships should play out!!

posted July 03, 2014 06:28 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
THIS. THAT is what I've come to echo more than anything. It's been more true in my experience than anything else so far.

Yes, the relationship matters -- it definitely matters. Since mine and I buried the hatchet, it's going very well. We know he has a tendency to inject negativity into text, so we've instead been pretty regularly on the phone; one, the first, kinda chatty and finding our footing again. The second, very meaningful and confronting issues. The third, exploring the issue he's having, and honestly, his being grateful we're back in each other's lives -- in a more real fashion. After all, he DID reestablish it, by seeing me in May.

So, it HAS importance. But it's a gauge of US. As individuals. THAT's what's key.

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