posted July 03, 2014 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Really? It so cool that we are finding this!!

I researched years ago about NN directions! I found many, if not most, of the monks I researched and spiritual guru's from Tibet and holy lands or places like that had direct NN!! Very high percentage in that group.

What's even funnier is I researched about 40 Catholic priests and Popes.....lol....maybe 9 or 10 out of the 40 had direct NN!! What a difference, I can't remember exactly, I might still have the book I wrote everything down in, but I was amazed how few Catholics had it!

I don't think everyone who has a rx NN is showing they are not spiritually evolved!
I think some choose to come back to be hands on guides....and some choose to be invisible guides.
Ppl like the Dahli Lama, you know he was born with his spiritual advancement way beyond humanity, but he wanted to be a guide, to live and hurt with others and not leave quite yet!
My TF doesn't have a direct NN....but he's no slacker when it comes to spirituality, although he didn't believe in God when we first met, now he believes that love is Gods energy and we are all connected to each other through this energy...he feels that energy is God, if God exists.
He loves the science I bring to prove my theories!! If it wasn't for that I doubt he would ever have opened his heart to see all this differently.

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posted July 03, 2014 06:43 PM            

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I feel like I am an old soul.

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I bet you're also an indigo, starseed, lightworker and reptilian

posted July 03, 2014 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Wow! That is so interesting Gabby. I heard some things about this before but couldn't find much. I feel like I am an old soul. My chart seems to show that, too. I've heard this means it might be your last incarnation? I guess thats why you're working out all your karma? Any theories on that?

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Yes, trying to work it all out to fix any negative marks we left, turn them into positive so you leave this world better than you found it!
It's like we have been on vacation(not a good though. Lol) and now we must go and clean up all our messes and return it in good order!

iQ told me after researching my name n chart something on my DNA has a natural healing affect on the planet and pulls out negative energy from others and is absorbed y me. But something in me turns the energy around, neutralizes the negative and sends out positive.
What's so odd is I have RH neg blood, B-neg the 2nd rarest blood type. My mom has the rarest AB-neg.
I drain energy out of batteries, lights, cell phones even my car if I'm not careful! I cannot allow myself to get overly upset and touch electrical things, I pop light bulbs one right after the other. During our huge tornado I was the only one able to get reception in the storm shelter, an underground cement shelter? But I was so stressed and overwhelmed by the time we got out my phone never worked again. I went and got a new one, then we had another tornado the next week...so my new one stopped working during that tornado.
They say it's common for ppl with RH-negative blood, esp the rarer types that are not the universal donors, to have issues with electrical things and are like antennas for energy. It's been theorized that we pull positive ions out of things and turn the energy into negative ions, which is healthy for humans.
Positive ions are what anything electrical generates, it's very unhealthy for us! So it started making sense if I pull these ions out of electrical things...that's why they stop working around me...I'm draining their life as my energy attempts to convert their unhealthy energy into healthy energy.
Of course this is all theory and speculation....so don't take it as fact! It's just what I've read and seen in my personal life, and it fits!
Lol, my kids won't let me use their computers without at least wearing rubber gloves because I've accidentally drained life out of enough electronics we have had just by regularly using it, it only takes a couple weeks for me to kill a brand new computer....so when I return it to them it acts different, starts malfunctioning and within a few days it or overloads n has to be fixed!

I've had my phone I have right now for awhile but only because I put an otterbox around it, the rubber protects the phone from my energy draining it....all my kids have otter boxes so nobody has it happen! Our computers have rubber cases on them also! I got the light bulbs that last 10 years, I can get a year out out those!
My car has very little extra electronic features, but still my door locks and windows work intermittently and the dome light to! I've had it looked at it's all in good condition it's just me that wreaks havoc on theses things...ugh!

posted July 03, 2014 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
(a side note, I think this is the function of Venus /Uranus in TF relationship. Being able to love without limiting the others freedom. Without needing to "own" them. We have a DW)

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That's the function of VENUS-URANUS in ANYTHING. I surprise people with my lifestyle. But I seemed to know early on, that my most important soul connexions were to be about freedom versus possession. I've been teaching myself -- and others -- to love without possessing the other.

posted July 03, 2014 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
@Indigo
I don't understand?? Do you mean you got a call saying your TF had gone, as in passed away??

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No, no, no. It's a recurring nightmare I was having. Now that I know what stress he's under, and how close to the edge he'd been getting -- I'm not sure. I'll never know. I'm GLAD I'll never know. Because I acted. Then and there, changing the course, and laying a new foundation.

Whatever was approaching -- that's not here. That's somewhere else now. And I thank God I 'saw' it -- felt it -- was moved -- in time. A few months from now -- and who can say?

posted July 03, 2014 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I bet you're also an indigo, starseed, lightworker and reptilian

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posted July 03, 2014 10:05 PM            

Also, I saw the links you posted, Gabby. I used to enjoy that show! I've always been into weather (esp. severe weather), and anything relating to atmosphere and thermofluids. Sorry to hear things went the way they did.

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Huh. I'm completely alien to that feeling. Completely. The only time I've felt 'lust' stems from a very deep, soulful connexion, and it's that merging feeling. Physical intimacy, specifically, intercourse, simply being the vehicle for that merging on a spiritual level.

That's rather uncommon, isn't it?

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I agree...if there's any hindrance or obstacle or delay, it comes from two sources:

- external factors which come from the necessity for TF to "align" their lives in order for the Union to take place

- the need for some TF to retreat after the initial encounter and purge some inner/outer things, process the information and prepare for a possible reunion. When the Union presents some difficulties for taking place (like both or one of the TF being involved with someone else, of course there's a retreat - BUT in my opinion, TFs know they will soon be reunited, and if the external factors are outside their control, they know/feel fate will reunite them)

The pain and adjustment between TF is due to third factors and the process described above, and not to the lack of love between them or the fact that one wants to be together, the other doesn't (duh!). The feelings between them are always mutual, in fact, a major point of the Twinflame concept is SYNCHRONIZATION. Without synchronization, there can be no TFs, IMO

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I have a problem however when the line is crossed and we start to believe that, just because we're infatuated with someone, it means they are infatuated too. I think this might even create energetic interference for the other person and this is not unconditional love to me. Unconditional love means loving someone and the truth at the same time, loving someone and knowing he doesn't love you, he's with another person, he has his own life, and he doesn't see you as a partner or is in love with you. Plus, if he/she lives in a couple, he already has this connection with someone and your energy is an interfering third party energy, so it's also about respecting boundaries and life choices of the one we unconditionally love.

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Gabby, I did a quick check with the asteroids you mentioned (along with whatever else was in the box when I cast the charts). Here are a few aspects:

gt-Synastry
My Hyperborea conj. his IC (2), squ. his (and my) Moon (2). It's also conj. Rigel.
His Hyperborea conj. my Cydonia (1), trine my Pholus(1).

My Kamuimintara squ. his Venus (exact), trine his Ceres (1), sext, his Vesta (exact).
His Kamuimintara conj. my Porta Coeli (exact), trine my SNode/sext. NNode (exact).

My Porta Coeli conj. his Kamuinitara and Rudra (exact), opp. his Kaali (exact) and Pholus (1).
His Porta Coeli conj. my Mars (2) and Garuda (2).

My Cydonia conj. his MC (1) and Hyperborea (1), squ. his Vertex (exact).

G-trine with Hubble: I have Hubble-Uranus conj., he has Hubble trine his Venus-Uranus conjunction. My Hubble trines his Hubble (exact) and Venus-Uranus (1.5). My Logos is also involved here via a conj. to his Venus and Uranus (his Logos conj. my AC-Vesta-Aphrodite-De Sanctis).

gt-Composite:
Cydonia conj. DC (exact)
Kamuimintara conj. Mercury and Venus (1), squ. Porta Coeli and Pluto (1).
Hubble conj. SNode (2) and Kaali (exact), sext. Moon-Garuda-Atlantis (2).
Porta Coeli conj. Pluto (1), sext. the Rudra-IC-Juno conj. (1).

posted July 04, 2014 07:36 AM            

It seems to me that the types of souls that are drawn to you tend to fall into two groups: LOCKWOODs and FAUSTEs.

LOCKWOOODs are nurturing, accepting, stabilizing and calming. FAUSTEs are brilliant and passionate, inspiring and energizing.

When did this pattern emerge? When did you first start choosing those two types of souls?

You might think that it started in high school, with The Stabber and The Stabee. But in what may have been your very first choice in this universe, you were born to a LOCKWOOD who is married to a FAUSTE.

I think it would be very interesting to do a composite comparing The Electrical Engineer and The Hubby, and one comparing The Queen Bee with The Comedian.

It would be very interesting to see what commonalities pop out in the charts. Especially for QueenBee & Comedian. What needs do they serve in your life? What do you get out of the dance with them?

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you'd be amazed at how much more 'us' we can be when you're hiding behind anonymity. Suddenly, when we were OURSELVES, we were mutually paralysed by being less than how we'd portrayed ourselves.

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The thing I've come to be believe is that the bodiless anonymous 'us' is, in a way, MORE true than 'OURSELVES'. Just like Switch, who we are in The Matrix is more true than who we are outside of it. I don't get paid to do research anymore, but I'm a scientist, always have, always will be. You don't work in the J.Edgar Hoover building, but you're still a profiler, especially in your phone work.

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The crushing blow was his telling me that he'd only been in love with me when he didn't know me; now that he's gotten to REALLY know me -- I was just crazy and he would rather x, y, and z than be in a relationship with me.

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This is just.... grrrrr. really special of him.

Ya know, P hurts you from time to time, but he almost always doesn't seem like he means to. It seems like P just gets animated and next thing he knows, you've been hurt, and he has to step back and try to figure out what happened.

In contrast, comments like this one are no accident. The design is as apparent as finding a watch on the beach-- this is a constructed artifact. This was created and designed to sting, and not just to sting anyone, but to sting you in particular. It was crafted with love and hate, and it was meant to hurt.

I've had some self-destructive relationships in my day, but I've never had anyone try to hurt me like that. It leaves me with such a gross feeling-- seeing him try to knock you off balance by kicking at something that is such a fundamental support to you.

And of course, he's lying. He's still entangled and obsessed, he was just using word he knew would hurt to try to make your emotional worst nightmare come true.

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Whenever he lashed out at me, he was feeling particularly self-loathing. ... He hated everything. He was constantly angry, and afraid that he was approaching another anxiety pattern.

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I wish I could say that is all alien to me, but I have lots of experience with self-loathing, frustration, and anxiety. I've never been one to express anger or to lash out, but inside my own mind, I'm always analyzing, always looking for the magic words I could say to destroy someone if I had to, in emotional self defense.

I suspect it's all part of being humiliated / abused / bullied in childhood-- you become hyper-vigilant , then hyper-critical, and if you're not careful, full blown lashing out.

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guess who caused him inexplicable anxiety? Who he was trying to impress (and then pretend he wasn't)

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You project such an impressive and intimidating mind, I can see how easy it would be to fall into the emotional trap of trying impress you. The "big milestone" for me, emotionally, was when I sent you my email of what I was ashamed of. The Comedian still wants to perform to you, wants to impress you and hear you applaud. Who can blame him? But for me, I'm glad to retire from that dance-- the music's too fast for me.

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I thank God and everything that creates this third-dimensional experience, that I 'woke up' when I did -- before the next call I got from his number was his mother telling his friends he was gone.

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posted July 04, 2014 09:23 AM              

""It gets very hard to find others who can relate to relationships such as these, because so many just think, "Well, what's the point if you aren't together as a couple." They believe you should just get over it and move on. They don't understand that it's not that simple, because it's not about being a daily couple together. It's about the effect that the energy of the person or the energy of the relationship is having on your entire being. This energy makes you feel more alive than you've ever felt and you feel like a tree that's been in a drought... then suddenly... the rain came. You feel yourself absorbing the energy of the love you are feeling like that tree absorbing the water. You feel yourself growing in ways you never dreamed. You become a better person, more full of life, laughter, joy, inspiration, compassion, sympathy, empathy. You see the way it touches other people, too, the way they respond to the love flowing out of you. You realize that even if you and your Twin do not end up as a couple, you will always feel indebted to them because something in their spirit helped trigger this change in you."

YES! I totally agree with everything you said. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Also, I just wanna say that I can relate SO much to what you shared about your experience, along with Ceri's and Indigo's and a very few others on here as well.
Its comforting to know I'm not the only one.

Ceri and Indigo,

posted July 04, 2014 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I bet you're also an indigo, starseed, lightworker and reptilian

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posted July 04, 2014 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
That's the function of VENUS-URANUS in ANYTHING. I surprise people with my lifestyle. But I seemed to know early on, that my most important soul connexions were to be about freedom versus possession. I've been teaching myself -- and others -- to love without possessing the other.

It's made a huge difference.

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You're right Indigo but having lots of Cancer/Virgo it is hard for me to let go sometimes. I have never experienced Venus/Uranus before either. It seems that Venus/Uranus is usually just seen as a negative aspect showing it wont last.

posted July 04, 2014 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
That's the function of VENUS-URANUS in ANYTHING. I surprise people with my lifestyle. But I seemed to know early on, that my most important soul connexions were to be about freedom versus possession. I've been teaching myself -- and others -- to love without possessing the other.

It's made a huge difference.

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posted July 04, 2014 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
No, no, no. It's a recurring nightmare I was having. Now that I know what stress he's under, and how close to the edge he'd been getting -- I'm not sure. I'll never know. I'm GLAD I'll never know. Because I acted. Then and there, changing the course, and laying a new foundation.

Whatever was approaching -- that's not here. That's somewhere else now. And I thank God I 'saw' it -- felt it -- was moved -- in time. A few months from now -- and who can say?

I'll never wait, and not confront, anything, when it concerns someone I love -- again.

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posted July 04, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Cappy, you're terrible.

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posted July 04, 2014 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
@ Gabby and Wild Horses, haven't gotten through all of this thread (and probably never will lol), but can very much relate to some of what I've read from you two.

Also, I saw the links you posted, Gabby. I used to enjoy that show! I've always been into weather (esp. severe weather), and anything relating to atmosphere and thermofluids. Sorry to hear things went the way they did.

[QUOTE]Huh. I'm completely alien to that feeling. Completely. The only time I've felt 'lust' stems from a very deep, soulful connexion, and it's that merging feeling. Physical intimacy, specifically, intercourse, simply being the vehicle for that merging on a spiritual level.

That's rather uncommon, isn't it?

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You're not alone, Indigo.

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I agree...if there's any hindrance or obstacle or delay, it comes from two sources:

- external factors which come from the necessity for TF to "align" their lives in order for the Union to take place

- the need for some TF to retreat after the initial encounter and purge some inner/outer things, process the information and prepare for a possible reunion. When the Union presents some difficulties for taking place (like both or one of the TF being involved with someone else, of course there's a retreat - BUT in my opinion, TFs know they will soon be reunited, and if the external factors are outside their control, they know/feel fate will reunite them)

The pain and adjustment between TF is due to third factors and the process described above, and not to the lack of love between them or the fact that one wants to be together, the other doesn't (duh!). The feelings between them are always mutual, in fact, a major point of the Twinflame concept is SYNCHRONIZATION. Without synchronization, there can be no TFs, IMO

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I have a problem however when the line is crossed and we start to believe that, just because we're infatuated with someone, it means they are infatuated too. I think this might even create energetic interference for the other person and this is not unconditional love to me. Unconditional love means loving someone and the truth at the same time, loving someone and knowing he doesn't love you, he's with another person, he has his own life, and he doesn't see you as a partner or is in love with you. Plus, if he/she lives in a couple, he already has this connection with someone and your energy is an interfering third party energy, so it's also about respecting boundaries and life choices of the one we unconditionally love.

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LeeLoo.

Gabby, I did a quick check with the asteroids you mentioned (along with whatever else was in the box when I cast the charts). Here are a few aspects:

[b]gt-Synastry
My Hyperborea conj. his IC (2), squ. his (and my) Moon (2). It's also conj. Rigel.
His Hyperborea conj. my Cydonia (1), trine my Pholus(1).

My Kamuimintara squ. his Venus (exact), trine his Ceres (1), sext, his Vesta (exact).
His Kamuimintara conj. my Porta Coeli (exact), trine my SNode/sext. NNode (exact).

My Porta Coeli conj. his Kamuinitara and Rudra (exact), opp. his Kaali (exact) and Pholus (1).
His Porta Coeli conj. my Mars (2) and Garuda (2).

My Cydonia conj. his MC (1) and Hyperborea (1), squ. his Vertex (exact).

G-trine with Hubble: I have Hubble-Uranus conj., he has Hubble trine his Venus-Uranus conjunction. My Hubble trines his Hubble (exact) and Venus-Uranus (1.5). My Logos is also involved here via a conj. to his Venus and Uranus (his Logos conj. my AC-Vesta-Aphrodite-De Sanctis).

gt-Composite:
Cydonia conj. DC (exact)
Kamuimintara conj. Mercury and Venus (1), squ. Porta Coeli and Pluto (1).
Hubble conj. SNode (2) and Kaali (exact), sext. Moon-Garuda-Atlantis (2).
Porta Coeli conj. Pluto (1), sext. the Rudra-IC-Juno conj. (1).

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I completely agree here!!

did.

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Huh. I'm completely alien to that feeling. Completely. The only time I've felt 'lust' stems from a very deep, soulful connexion, and it's that merging feeling. Physical intimacy, specifically, intercourse, simply being the vehicle for that merging on a spiritual level.

That's rather uncommon, isn't it?

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Indigo, I don't think it's as uncommon as it feels! I think it's just more evidence of your growth! It's your spirit longing for things instead of your egos longing, your only paying attention and reacting to your spirit longing for love and lust through a soul union...it shows your moving out of the body and into the soul as your guide, that's so beautiful!
I think the more we connect the more we will see there are others like that to! It's you evolving and already acting on this growth! Brilliant, beautiful and amazing is what it is!

Morph, those aspects are so sweet!! They follow the theme very well of a TF connecting to bring each other closer to origins, I just love seeing these aspect! They are so meaningful and show how we really are become something else. We are all like a butterfly and we will all eventually come out of our cocoon, or life here on earth and turn into that beautiful spiritual being after we learn what we need from the time we spent in this hell we call Earth. We can here knowing this was going to be a huge challenge, hurting and forgiving, learning and growing just so we could become a higher vibration of love!
You know we must really be amazing beings!! God made us so beautiful and deep! Can you imagine perfect beings chosing to be sent to a place where everything is hard? Before we could effortlessly move things with our thoughts, now we have to go to it, pick it up and walk it back or drive it....point is physically move it.
We have to eat and drink and learn to take care of a physical body that is so easily hurt . If we don't eat or drink we die, if we don't get this nutrient or to much of that, if don't get rid of the waste in our bodies, if we get rid of too much all at once and don't replenish...we can die! We have so much to keep up with just to stay alive and sustain life?
We have to walk to get from here to there? We are used to thinking it and we are a million miles from where we were in a split second. Walking requires learning how to put one foot in front of another, we don't even know how to do that at first.....everytime we come back we have to relearn this. The physical body is a balancing act in ever way, if we fail to balance it we get hurt!! OMG!! Everything is slow and painful for us, we have never experienced this. Yet we are willing to go through hell just to learn a higher vibration of love...that's how much love means to us!!
Tell me we are not the most beautiful creatures!! We truly are straight from Gods beautiful light, we really are made in his image!
I'm so proud of us!!! Now that we are waking up to our origin and seeing ourselves past the physical....I see the beauty God sees in us. I know why he would never give up on us! We chose this and he loves us for our desire and willingness to be here and learn. Even as we fail, he knows our truth.
God knows our work and he knows our heart! There is nothing a human could do, there is nothing that is so far bad or wrong that God would forget who we are.
Even the ones that do the very worst things will hurt themselves to balance out their pain for what they did. They will be the ones learning the very deepest lesson of forgiveness, as they spend many many lifetimes abusing themselves and drawing pain to them because they can't forgive themselves and want hurt just as much as they habe hurt others!
It's not God punishing us, it's us who can't forgive ourselves....that's what karma is, the inability to forgive ourselves! It's not the universe balancing anything it's us balancing our bad by making sure we hurt as much as we have hurt others.
What you truly must learn to undo karma is self forgiveness, remembering who you are and understanding why we are here. Knowing this is the first step to letting go of guilt.
Once you see this you will see you've hurt enough and know you will never hurt anyone again.
That's karma balancing itself, karma is a human game. We created karma through our guilt, we manifested it into life by not being able to forgive ourselves because we lost contact with our origin, got caught up in the pain and acted out in fear and hurt. We also forgot that we manifest our emotions and if our emotions are fear and guilt, then we create a need to suffer and a life that scares us to insure so we are unhappy and hurting....the same way our actions hurt others, scared others and they suffered for it.

posted July 04, 2014 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hah! Good theory, Lee!

HYPERBOREA conjunct VENUS (1°00) and ASC (0°50)
So, VENUS/ASC=HYPERBOREA (0°20)

DESTINN conjunct HYPERBOREA (0°10)

Wow. This is beautiful:

HYPERBOREA parallel EROS (0°40)
HYPERBOREA parallel PSYCHE (0°05)

and

HYPERBOREA parallel VALENTINE (0°50)

Too far to conjunct -- 7°. But a nice parallel.

And ...

HYPERBOREA parallel MARS (0°25)

How's that for a nice complement to his HYPERBOREA conjunct my VENUS?

Some nice things going on in the composite, too. Most notably:

HYPERBOREA conjunct ATROPOS (1°50)
HYPERBOREA parallel ATROPOS (0°30)

Inevitable, huh? That's the kind of inevitability I'm more than down for.

Plus --

His HYPERBOREA is parallel the cJUNO and cALMA.

My HYBERBOREA is conjunct many of the composite Midpoints:

KARMA/SUN (1°)
KARMA/VENUS (1°)
DESTINN/SUN (0°)
DESTINN/VENUS (0°)
KARMA/JUPITER (1°)
DESTINN/JUPITER (1°)

It's conjunct the cASC, 1° as well.

Very, very nice job, Lee. Home run! I think you're definitely on to something. Checks out here wonderfully.

I remember looking at it awhile back and not finding much on it; I recall thinking -- whatever it is, it's significant.

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posted July 04, 2014 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Wildhorses,

""It gets very hard to find others who can relate to relationships such as these, because so many just think, "Well, what's the point if you aren't together as a couple." They believe you should just get over it and move on. They don't understand that it's not that simple, because it's not about being a daily couple together. It's about the effect that the energy of the person or the energy of the relationship is having on your entire being. This energy makes you feel more alive than you've ever felt and you feel like a tree that's been in a drought... then suddenly... the rain came. You feel yourself absorbing the energy of the love you are feeling like that tree absorbing the water. You feel yourself growing in ways you never dreamed. You become a better person, more full of life, laughter, joy, inspiration, compassion, sympathy, empathy. You see the way it touches other people, too, the way they respond to the love flowing out of you. You realize that even if you and your Twin do not end up as a couple, you will always feel indebted to them because something in their spirit helped trigger this change in you."

YES! I totally agree with everything you said. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Also, I just wanna say that I can relate SO much to what you shared about your experience, along with Ceri's and Indigo's and a very few others on here as well.
Its comforting to know I'm not the only one.

Ceri and Indigo,

I hope you guys are well and feeling better.
I haven't posted here for a while, been extremely busy with college and life in general, but I've been following along with your posts whenever I could find the time.
I'm sorry its been so tough for you. I really wish it wasn't so painful.
I myself have been going through some challenges as well, its certainly not pleasant, but cleansing out these old energies/patterns is whats needed I guess, for all of us.
Summers are always the hardest for me too heh.
Anyways, sending you both much love and healing hugs, talk soon.

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posted July 04, 2014 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Yes, thank God you did! I bet his energy calls out to you subconsciously.... You probably never would let it go to far, you would always feels his needs and respond in perfect time!

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I certainly like to think so -- overcoming the egoism and fear-based avoidance has been my top priority. It can be so blinding. But I knew the alternative was ... unthinkable. I could never allow myself to succumb to so much fear that I ever REALLY abandoned him.

Thank God that everything started raging against me as I sought to cut the cord. I can't even describe that experience. It was horrifying. If there were ever anything that centred to a single point to emphasise that I was doing something WRONG -- it was that.

posted July 04, 2014 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

Ceri and Indigo,

I hope you guys are well and feeling better.
I haven't posted here for a while, been extremely busy with college and life in general, but I've been following along with your posts whenever I could find the time.
I'm sorry its been so tough for you. I really wish it wasn't so painful.
I myself have been going through some challenges as well, its certainly not pleasant, but cleansing out these old energies/patterns is whats needed I guess, for all of us.
Summers are always the hardest for me too heh.
Anyways, sending you both much love and healing hugs, talk soon.

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posted July 05, 2014 02:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Indigo, I don't think it's as uncommon as it feels! I think it's just more evidence of your growth! It's your spirit longing for things instead of your egos longing, your only paying attention and reacting to your spirit longing for love and lust through a soul union...it shows your moving out of the body and into the soul as your guide, that's so beautiful!
I think the more we connect the more we will see there are others like that to! It's you evolving and already acting on this growth! Brilliant, beautiful and amazing is what it is!

Morph, those aspects are so sweet!! They follow the theme very well of a TF connecting to bring each other closer to origins, I just love seeing these aspect! They are so meaning and show how we really are become something else, like a butterfly we will all eventually come out of out cocoon life here on earth and turn into that beautiful spiritual being that learned so much from the time we spent in this hell we call Earth, hurting and growing just so we could become a higher vibration of love!
You know we must really be amazing beings!! God made us so beautiful and deep! Can you imagine perfect beings chosing to be sent to a place where everything is hard, we can't effortlessly move things with our thoughts, we have to eat and drink and learn to take care of a physical body that is so easily injured just to sustain life? We have to walk to get from here to there? We are used to thinking it and we are a million miles from where we were in a split second. Walking requires learning how to put one foot in front of another, we don't even know how to do that at first.....this physical body has to be balanced or it falls over and we get hurt? OMG!! Everything is slow and painful for us here, we have never experienced this, but we were willing to go through hell just to learn a higher vibration of love...that's how much love means to us!! Tell me we are not the most beautiful creatures!! We truly are straight from Gods beautiful light, we really are made in his image!
I'm so proud of us!!! Now that we are waking up to our origin and seeing ourselves past the physical....I see the beauty God sees and why he would never give up on us! We chose this and he loves us even as we fail because he knows our truth, he knows our work, he knows our heart! There is nothing a human could do, there is nothing that is to far wrong that could make God forget who we are....even the ones that do the worst things will hurt the very most knowing what they did. These are the ones that will have to learn the very deepest forgiveness, they will spend many many lives abusing themselves and drawing pain to them because they want, the feel they to hurt!! They can't forgive themselves....that's what karma is, the inability to forgive ourselves! It's not the universe balancing anything it's us balancing our bad making sure we hurt as much as we have hurt others.
What you truly must learn to undo karma is self forgiveness understanding of why we are here and letting go as you decide you've hurt enough and will never hurt anyone again because you know what it feels like to hurt!! That's karma balancing itself, karma is our human game, we created karma through our guilt, manifested it into life by not being able to forgive ourselves because we forgot who we are and why we are here. We got lost in the game of life, and forgot that we manifest our emotions and our emotions were guilt and need to suffer the same way we had made others suffer!

See how beautiful we are, we care so much and don't want to hurt that we even self discipline for our wrongs! We truly are made of only good...we just have to believe it to be it!

I'll edit later, I'm on my phone! Lol

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Aww, thank you for sharing this beautiful message, Gabby. A beautiful message from a beautiful soul.