posted July 07, 2014 09:13 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No you want the ultimate romantic love

(sorry I do not want to sound as if I know what you want. But it sounds like it to me. the ultimate romantic other. Is it the same as the twin? I am nto sure)

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Busted!

Yes, to me, of course. I mean that's my vision on the Twins - the ultimate romantic encounter.

posted July 07, 2014 09:16 AM              

Still gives me goosebumps

posted July 07, 2014 09:19 AM            

Applause please ^^

posted July 07, 2014 09:47 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIN0RAvtTn4

Still gives me goosebumps

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He's a handsome man with a lovely warm voice Thanks for the link!

posted July 07, 2014 09:49 AM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Why are relationships without any kind of already existing "soul connection" not enough? Why must some people see soulmates, karma and twinflames everywhere? More often than not the obsession with these concepts is detrimental to the person and it's not like they can be ever proved anyway. I'm content with connecting with random spirits (and even if they're not random, this knowledge isn't necesssary for a fulfilling relationship), why can't YOU be? Yes, it's nice to think someone might be my soulmate but I could never invest myself so much in this idea which would be more likely than not self-delusion.

Applause please ^^

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Some views on TF just make me kind of uneasy. It's like soulmate or karmic partners do not mean anything, yet you loved them or feel something for them as some point or another. And when you think you found your TF, poof, nothing seems as important? If this is how Twinflame relationship is, I'm glad I won't find he/she. Family, friends, love interest, I love them all till the day I die, and beyond .

posted July 07, 2014 09:54 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

That's so cool, Ceri. To be honest, if I have a bias, it's towards you (I'm not kidding). I have faith in everything you say, I don't know why, no matter how "crazy" it sounds sometimes (don't get angry, I say seemingly crazy things too and I definitely have "crazy" experiences), it's like there's something true and pure in your experiences. Maybe not what you or I expect, but it's there.

Don't tell too many people about the Jesus thing though

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Thank you.

posted July 07, 2014 09:55 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Do you sing too?

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posted July 07, 2014 09:56 AM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Why are relationships without any kind of already existing "soul connection" not enough? Why must some people see soulmates, karma and twinflames everywhere? More often than not the obsession with these concepts is detrimental to the person and it's not like they can be ever proved anyway. I'm content with connecting with random spirits (and even if they're not random, this knowledge isn't necesssary for a fulfilling relationship), why can't YOU be? Yes, it's nice to think someone might be my soulmate but I could never invest myself so much in this idea which would be more likely than not self-delusion.

Applause please ^^

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As I was saying...So Venus in Aqua lol

I can only tell you about my subjective trajectory. Some time ago, I believed what you believe now (Granny Buzzkill reminiscing). That our souls' journey is one of various experiences, experiencing, all equal on this path (equal in the sense of random spirits as you said), universal interaction etc. Of course, this level still exists. But at some point, something happened, some experiences, and you realize (without asking for it) this twin soul exists. Experiences you can't ignore (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about), beyond one's natural skepticism (and mine is high). You can't force this process, it just happens.

On the other hand, speaking generally, I suppose some people are born with this concept already ingrained in their psyche (not my case).

After all, a true romantic always believes in the existence of the twin soul, the concept is at the core of romanticism.

posted July 07, 2014 10:01 AM              

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Some views on TF just make me kind of uneasy. It's like soulmate or karmic partners do not mean anything, yet you loved them or feel something for them as some point or another. And when you think you found your TF, poof, nothing seems as important? If this is how Twinflame relationship is, I'm glad I won't find he/she. Family, friends, love interest, I love them all till the day I die, and beyond .

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I believe all people you love are part of that final soul, like sparks of it, and that one's reality, the whole world in fact, it's more like an illusion, a dream, a legend, so they're your own personal legend, for you all these people are becoming one, just as you become one. Eh, hard to explain in a few words, something along those lines...

So loving each one of them you actually love your twin and yourself, of course.

posted July 07, 2014 10:02 AM              

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I can't make up my mind if I'm a romantic at heart or not.

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posted July 07, 2014 10:04 AM            

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As I was saying...So Venus in Aqua lol

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Leave my Venus alone My post wasn't directed at you only, btw.

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Of course, this level still exists. But at some point, something happened, some experiences, and you realize (without asking for it) this twin soul exists. Experiences you can't ignore (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about), beyond one's natural skepticism (and mine is high). You can't force this process, it just happens.

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posted July 07, 2014 10:05 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Nah, I am going to tell everyone I cross path with. My Mercury is in Sag, remember?

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posted July 07, 2014 10:08 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Where else could you be romantic?

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you know what I mean ^^. Maybe it's my heavy earth chart.

posted July 07, 2014 10:11 AM              

I do understand the curiosity though.
But it should not lead to us putting relationships into little boxes and determine if anything other than twin flame they are not worth pursuing.
i donīt think that is what Indigo is trying though, but I sadly know that some people will read it that way.

My parents for example, 40 years of marriage, Happy. Loving, Growing with each other and through each other.

What are they? Twinflames? Soulmates? Karmamates? Earthmates?

No matter what the answer will be, it will not change the past experiences they shared and their tremendous love for each other.

I am quite certain they were meant to be, but I am also certain it was them making this "meant to be" possible, by their conscious choices for each other on the road so far.

For me relationships are not so much about feeling or even love (though it is nice if that is the basis of it), but actually more importantly about choice.

That doesn`t mean that people do not have feelings for other people outside the relationship as well, it simply means that they made a choice, and that is VERY meaningful to me.

now I cannot imagine my parents loving anyone else but each other, but I have been growng up with them, and it was always just him for her, and her for him.

Not because of lack of people they met, but because of their love fro each other AND their choice AND their compatibility in terms of lifepath. We often tend to forget about that. But guys, seriously, check your Midheavens in synastry, most of the time they will determine if you even have a chance of going the distance TOGETHER.

Love is not always enough.
Lifepaths have to converge as well (so keep a n eye on this NN as well. lol)

anyway I disgress.

Ironically I think my parents would actually tick many twin soul boxes.
And soul mate ones. And karma mate ones. And foo ones.

*shrugs* At the end of the day they create their relationship from day to day, and have been doing a quite good job at this.

Of course on the down side they raised the bar and expectations surrounding relationships SO high for me, that probably nothing else can measure up to it.

If you are growing up in this vibration of commitment, love, friendship and responsibility (familyorientedness), nothing else really will do.

oh and as a byproduct they changed the world.

at least to a degree in our town, by founding and shaping two organizations assisting mentally handicapped people and their families, having definitely done a lot for raising social acceptance.

They also took my aunt in, when she was a teenager, and she as well was taught to think socially, leading her, some years ago, to save all her yearly holidays and spend it in Togo, to assist an organization,w ho has schools there for almost deaf children, not only to teach them read, write and speak, but also to provide a place for them where they are sheltered and can have a warm meal a day.

Would my aunt have done this, if my parents hadn`t layed the seed by putting an example?
Maybe, but it certainly helped.

I certainly believe they made a difference, or they still make a difference as a matter of fact in our society, as small as the contribution may be.

But I am sure they would never define themselves in esoteric terms at all.

posted July 07, 2014 10:15 AM            

I think my chart is most earth heavy. I'm determined to keep my Neptune where he belongs, on a leash that is ^^

posted July 07, 2014 10:23 AM              

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
you know what I mean ^^. Maybe it's my heavy earth chart.

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posted July 07, 2014 10:28 AM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Leave my Venus alone My post wasn't directed at you only, btw.

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I know, dear, I really wasn't having a paranoia/megalomania fit hehehe I hope others will answer your question as well (be careful what you wish for :laughing

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So who's your twinflame and why isn't he holding you in his arms right now?

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Waiting for our 1st sismance anniversary to tell you

posted July 07, 2014 10:40 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Waiting for our 1st sismance anniversary to tell you

You better be there, I'm making my no/bake chocolate mousse cake

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I love cakes!!! :drooling:

And for Ceri.

posted July 07, 2014 10:55 AM              

When you say about Midheavens showing two people having a future together, what aspects/config do you check?

posted July 07, 2014 10:55 AM              

I agree with most of what you said and I loved the articles you shared

Thats why I didn't say anything about this topic at first lol.
I don't feel TwinFlame connections are one sided at all... They'll both atleast KNOW something is up imo.

I'll add here too that the runner-phenomenon though is an exception. The runner certainly does have feelings for the other, but it overwhelms them. They run because of a fear of love/intimacy, not because of unrequited love. That's because the TF energy is too intense and so high of a vibration that it triggers issues needing to be worked on and dealt with. Thats what can scare the **** out of them and they may go to extreme measures to avoid/block out the other. They may feel as though they dont deserve this love, to feel such depth of emotions/energies, they feel its almost too good to be true, too precious for them, so they run.

Now when it comes to "celebrity-crushes" and fantasies, thats something else all together. Some of these cases can be harmless and fun, puppy-love type of attractions that are fleeting, and I wouldn't be too quick to assume those are (all) unrequited either, because we don't really know how the other feels right?
And then on the other end of the stick there's the very extreme, unhealthy, obsessive, and possibly dangerous "crushes/fantasies", where those admires can even go up to the point of physically stalking and trying to cause harm to their "object of affection", or even themselves in order to get their attention (something which I have seen happen to my Twin by a few crazies as well ). Its really sad.

But of course, then again there's a difference between crushes/fantasies and actually feeling a genuine soul connection with someone without ever having met them before (well maybe atleast not physically in this timeline lol ). Its when you just recognize them and know you have finally found your home. You have the feeling of always having known them, that they are a part of you, that you share the same essence and are one. You see yourself reflected in their eyes, their being, their soul. But the thought of being in a relationship with them terrifies you, for obvious reasons, as stated above.
Ookkkk getting a but carried away here lol. Don't mind me, I'm just having one of those moments again in Lavender-land. :P

Anyways back to the topic,

posted July 07, 2014 11:46 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
To be honest, I donīt care for the label twinflame, or soulmate or karmamate much anymore.
It`s the experience that matters to me.

I do understand the curiosity though.
But it should not lead to us putting relationships into little boxes and determine if anything other than twin flame they are not worth pursuing.
i donīt think that is what Indigo is trying though, but I sadly know that some people will read it that way.

My parents for example, 40 years of marriage, Happy. Loving, Growing with each other and through each other.

What are they? Twinflames? Soulmates? Karmamates? Earthmates?

No matter what the answer will be, it will not change the past experiences they shared and their tremendous love for each other.

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Your parents are extremely lucky to have found eachother, Ceri

And I so agree with you. Labels are only that, labels, and the thing about labels is that everyone projects their own thoughts/experiences onto them based on where they are in life, which can lead to conflicts when everyone thinks their definition of that label is the "right" one.

I could call him my huggy-bunny-baby or vanilla ice-cream cake for all it mattered, and still it wouldn't change the nature of this connection and its impact on me.
I love him deeply, and it'll only deepen and strengthen over time like its always had, that's all I know.

posted July 07, 2014 12:21 PM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

But I do see the good side of labelling too, it allows others to understand things better I guess. Just so long as they don't see it as a sense of entitlement.

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posted July 07, 2014 12:22 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ceri

I think my chart is most earth heavy. I'm determined to keep my Neptune where he belongs, on a leash that is ^^

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Neptune on a leash?
How sad!