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IndigoDirae
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posted June 27, 2014 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I agree it's totally overwhelming....but that's part of the challenge. You must have the strength to handle it! That's what you must learn before the union can full blown manifest into life. If you can't handle it's power from just a meeting and momentary connections how would you handle it's power everyday day in and day out.

I'm only saying this because of a reality I came to awhile back that allowed me to let go without hurting or feeling like a piece of me was being ripped away.
When I was with my TF the energy was intoxicating, desperate, frantic, it felt like it had a mind of it's own, we were just along for the ride. So when we were just sitting there with no focus on doing something the energy would overwhelm us and neither of us knew exactly how to behave.
At times it made me nervous and I'd look for reasons why I felt something was off..I'd assume it was something I was sensing from him, something was not right, was he lying or something? If not why would I feel nervous?
The energies intensity created a lot of mistrust....what was actually going on is I wasn't, or we weren't prepared for the intensity and it terrified both if us. Even him just touching my back literally sent electricity through me. When we locked in our energy on each other ppl said it looked like someone had lit a Christmas tree.
How do you do deal with that much energy while your doing the dishes, taking out the trash or disagreeing with each other?
The answer is, you must be very very strong within yourself in order to grab the energy and focus it. Don't let it drag you around! If you can't do that your fears and overwhelmed insecurities will seep in between you n your TF and create a war.
That's why you must learn to trust and conquer your fears about each other alone, before you can merge into one safely, fears, mistrust and doubt are the weapons that destroy when you have such a powerful energy and bond.


I relate to that completely. I think that's why context is everything for us. The second that goes away, there's no format -- no form. It all becomes wild, unhinged. Overwhelms. I figure we can at least manage to keep writing, film this trailer, and -- eventually -- shoot that series.

I've just always worried about when the cameras aren't rolling. So has he. That's why we 'left the option open'. We KNEW it'd be crazy intense. Too much to deal with. So we'd at least be open to a casual outlet.

Until we realised it's not casual. Not at ALL.

After that? ... What's the context?

I'm trying to find a 'new' one and reorient.

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posted June 27, 2014 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Selene:
[b]Over many years of exposure to souls in the spirit world I have developed a means of classifying soulmates. I find the positions of souls within one of three categories bears upon their relationship to us in the drama of life. [b]Primary Soulmates--A primary, or principal soulmate is frequently in our life as a closely bonded partner. This partnership may be our spouse, brother or sister, a best friend,
or occasionally a parent.....Companion Soulmates--Our primary soulmate is our eternal partner but we have other souls in our primary cluster group who can be called soulmates. Essentially, they are our soul companions....Affiliated Souls--There are certain affiliated souls in other groups who are selected to work with us who we come to know over many lives, while others may only cross our path briefly. Quite often our parents come from one of these nearby cluster groups.

Michael Newton


This i suppose is what i believe is true. Since we can try different roles in our various lifetimes.

And after all, if two people are friends of opposite sex, they still can both fall in love after some time, it has not to be exactly in the same moment of meeting. [/B]



Thank you Selene..you were quick
It doesn't have to be like this, but I have to ask you this, please don't get mad at me, but this is what this thread is about: have you considered the possibility that you're in love with this man while he isn't and that you can't let go of this love, therefore you felt the need to find an explanation for the whole situation in some sort of twinflame/soulmate theory?[/B][/QUOTE]

Of course i have.

But the thing is... he considers me his soulmate as well and has told me that not once, but several times. It is just not about the romantic love, but about soul connection. And that we do feel. Since the first time we met. He was the one who first said we have met before.. and he is the one that keeps contacting me even when i want to rest from that. It's just that. We want to be around each other no matter what everybody else thinks of that. People that are around us know that very well. They call me if they want to know if he is going somewhere, our friends ask him where am i, etc. Because basically everybody in our circle know that we care for each other that much. That's why it is so weird. We're so really close and i don't know what could have caused that if not the soul affinity.

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posted June 27, 2014 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So much wisdom from so many different perspectives in this thread!

I am old enough to be the mother or grandmother of most, if not all, of you. There is a perspective that comes from being past the 2nd Saturn Return and almost past the 2nd Uranus square that I don't know how to communicate, except to say I've been there, done that and there is hope for those of you who are feeling so much pain.

But, as Gabby so eloquently points out, you have to concentrate on yourself and learn what it means to love yourself first. In my experience, it is a rare person can do that much before the age of 50-60, although you can be on that path and be making progress toward that "end." (It's a continuum, not a specific point, and I don't know that anyone ever reaches the end of that path until the last breath).

I'm trying to keep an open mind about the concept of TwinFlames. I believe we are all part of the same spiritual essence, all born whole, and all part of the same soul. We were all one with God (by whatever name you wish to call that energy) and we will all return to that source. So thinking that there is only one person who is our twinflame (or even a primary soulmate) makes no sense to me.

I do believe in soulmates, and think that if reincarnation exists, we tend to reincarnate with the same group of souls. I have met many of them in this lifetime, some as platonic friends or co-workers (both male and female), and some as male romantic partners (particularly the current one, and my ex). Some are still in my life, and some were there for only a brief time. One (my current partner, as discussed in my thread on Unaspected Sun in Composite/Davison) had been on the far-fringes of my life since 1991, with little interaction, until last summer.

If I did believe in twinflames, would he be my twinflame? I don't know; we have some of the markers I guess, but it really doesn't matter. Maybe my ex was my twinflame (in some ways, our charts were better), but that doesn't matter either. They are both part of my journey, and me of theirs, and it is what it is, and it will be what it will be. I can't predict what will happen in the future, nor would I want to.

All I know is that when we are together, it is good, even when it is not so good. And when we are apart, it is okay (most of the time; I do have my twinges of anxiety but soon realize it is the old stuff coming back to haunt me and has nothing to do with current reality). I'm better with him, but I'll be okay without him if it comes to that.

Not sure if I'm making any sense, but it's the best I can do for now.

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posted June 27, 2014 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
I don't know if he's my twin, but I do know that I know from past lives and a Psyche claimed that there is a strong rememblance between his Soul and my Soul, like twins.

And an Aries Moon can't stand that And his feelings towards me?


'Strong soul resemblance' does NOT a Twin Flame make. Soul-family? Likely. Twin Soul family? Even more likely. But that whole Twin Flame thing ... it's something else entirely. A whole other crazy world.

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posted June 27, 2014 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
So much wisdom from so many different perspectives in this thread!

I am old enough to be the mother or grandmother of most, if not all, of you. There is a perspective that comes from being past the 2nd Saturn Return and almost past the 2nd Uranus square that I don't know how to communicate, except to say I've been there, done that and there is hope for those of you who are feeling so much pain.

But, as Gabby so eloquently points out, you have to concentrate on yourself and learn what it means to love yourself first. In my experience, it is a rare person can do that much before the age of 50-60, although you can be on that path and be making progress toward that "end." (It's a continuum, not a specific point, and I don't know that anyone ever reaches the end of that path until the last breath).

I'm trying to keep an open mind about the concept of TwinFlames. I believe we are all part of the same spiritual essence, all born whole, and all part of the same soul. We were all one with God (by whatever name you wish to call that energy) and we will all return to that source. So thinking that there is only one person who is our twinflame (or even a primary soulmate) makes no sense to me.

I do believe in soulmates, and think that if reincarnation exists, we tend to reincarnate with the same group of souls. I have met many of them in this lifetime, some as platonic friends or co-workers (both male and female), and some as male romantic partners (particularly the current one, and my ex). Some are still in my life, and some were there for only a brief time. One (my current partner, as discussed in my thread on Unaspected Sun in Composite/Davison) had been on the far-fringes of my life since 1991, with little interaction, until last summer.

If I did believe in twinflames, would he be my twinflame? I don't know; we have some of the markers I guess, but it really doesn't matter. Maybe my ex was my twinflame (in some ways, our charts were better), but that doesn't matter either. They are both part of my journey, and me of theirs, and it is what it is, and it will be what it will be. I can't predict what will happen in the future, nor would I want to.

All I know is that when we are together, it is good, even when it is not so good. And when we are apart, it is okay (most of the time; I do have my twinges of anxiety but soon realize it is the old stuff coming back to haunt me and has nothing to do with current reality). I'm better with him, but I'll be okay without him if it comes to that.

Not sure if I'm making any sense, but it's the best I can do for now.


You are making sense, Delilah. I thank you for your perspective; it's invaluable.

For me, it's about purpose. The thought that we might still move towards producing the trailer to create buzz for the show and find investors when it comes time to shoot -- felt like the world was back on its axis. I'll survive if he and I can't get it together to have a relationship outside of producing partners and costars. I'll privately regret the time we won't be able to spend together because of the tension between us, and the fact our whole existence will take place on set or at a distance. BUT -- I'll survive.

The thought that I've somehow lost him completely in some fashion -- that he's hit some strange limit and will now completely avoid me -- THAT drives me insane. THAT fills me with sadness and rage. THAT makes me shout, 'WHAT are you DOING?' And I can only hope he's not THAT suddenly lacking in maturity, and try and stay calm until after the retrograde.

I think right now, it's about the show. Losing the show was HUGE. For both of us. I can't imagine he wouldn't want it back just as much as I. But then he's probably not looking forward to the inevitable tension on set. But, hey. We're here for this right now, and we both need to just make the best of it.

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posted June 27, 2014 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 27, 2014 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know Indigo, when "sorry" or apologies come from a genuine heart, it WILL be felt and it WILL have its practical results. But the anger speaks against it, and he knows.. beyond words and all that stuff.

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posted June 27, 2014 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
You know Indigo, when "sorry" or apologies come from a genuine heart, it WILL be felt and it WILL have its practical results. But the anger speaks against it, and he knows.. beyond words and all that stuff.

I certainly hope so. I couldn't be more honest in that. Really, at this point, I'm trying to reintroduce a context which allows us both to reconnect. I think that's most likely getting back to work.

But we'll see. I fear his pride and own regrets are stopping him from taking whatever action is in his heart. He's never NOT responded before. It ... worries me. I won't just run -- again -- but it does concern me.

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posted June 28, 2014 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
So much wisdom from so many different perspectives in this thread!

I am old enough to be the mother or grandmother of most, if not all, of you. There is a perspective that comes from being past the 2nd Saturn Return and almost past the 2nd Uranus square that I don't know how to communicate, except to say I've been there, done that and there is hope for those of you who are feeling so much pain.

But, as Gabby so eloquently points out, you have to concentrate on yourself and learn what it means to love yourself first. In my experience, it is a rare person can do that much before the age of 50-60, although you can be on that path and be making progress toward that "end." (It's a continuum, not a specific point, and I don't know that anyone ever reaches the end of that path until the last breath).

I'm trying to keep an open mind about the concept of TwinFlames. I believe we are all part of the same spiritual essence, all born whole, and all part of the same soul. We were all one with God (by whatever name you wish to call that energy) and we will all return to that source. So thinking that there is only one person who is our twinflame (or even a primary soulmate) makes no sense to me.

I do believe in soulmates, and think that if reincarnation exists, we tend to reincarnate with the same group of souls. I have met many of them in this lifetime, some as platonic friends or co-workers (both male and female), and some as male romantic partners (particularly the current one, and my ex). Some are still in my life, and some were there for only a brief time. One (my current partner, as discussed in my thread on Unaspected Sun in Composite/Davison) had been on the far-fringes of my life since 1991, with little interaction, until last summer.

If I did believe in twinflames, would he be my twinflame? I don't know; we have some of the markers I guess, but it really doesn't matter. Maybe my ex was my twinflame (in some ways, our charts were better), but that doesn't matter either. They are both part of my journey, and me of theirs, and it is what it is, and it will be what it will be. I can't predict what will happen in the future, nor would I want to.

All I know is that when we are together, it is good, even when it is not so good. And when we are apart, it is okay (most of the time; I do have my twinges of anxiety but soon realize it is the old stuff coming back to haunt me and has nothing to do with current reality). I'm better with him, but I'll be okay without him if it comes to that.

Not sure if I'm making any sense, but it's the best I can do for now.


Your insight is so appreciated and I couldn't agree more. To me this journey is about us alone. All others are a part of our journey only to give us the friction or support to help us grow....but their journey isn't about us either, we are their challenge or support also.
Until we fully realize this we hender our own progress. To me if twin flames are a reality, it's our personal progress that is the marker that determines when and if we will reunite.


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posted June 28, 2014 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I relate to that completely. I think that's why context is everything for us. The second that goes away, there's no format -- no form. It all becomes wild, unhinged. Overwhelms. I figure we can at least manage to keep writing, film this trailer, and -- eventually -- shoot that series.

I've just always worried about when the cameras aren't rolling. So has he. That's why we 'left the option open'. We KNEW it'd be crazy intense. Too much to deal with. So we'd at least be open to a casual outlet.

Until we realised it's not casual. Not at ALL.

After that? ... What's the context?

I'm trying to find a 'new' one and reorient.


I think that's when our personal strength becomes so necessary, we must be able to go into ourselves when we become overwhelmed and re-equilibrate. If you can't the energy becomes destructive....you have to be stronger than the intensity.
I would think it might be somewhat like learning how to deal with the intensity of a tight Pluto conjunction in a natal chart....if you don't gain control over the aspect it will act destructively in your life, obsessions overwhelming you and making you behave in ways that so intense it scares you and others. If you do learn how to control the energy you can use it, focus it and it will propel you forward, give strength and determination.

It's a loose analogy....but I have Pluto 2degrees off my AC and the push/pull of dealing with that aspect and it's intensity kind of reminds me of the balance I think you must learn to deal with the intensity of the TF relationship.

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posted June 28, 2014 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:

I would think it might be somewhat like learning how to deal with the intensity of a tight Pluto conjunction in a natal chart....if you don't gain control over the aspect it will act destructively in your life, obsessions overwhelming you and making you behave in ways that so intense it scares you and others. If you do learn how to control the energy you can use it, focus it and it will propel you forward, give strength and determination.

Like, oh, say, SUN conjunct PLUTO (2°) and BML and parallel ASC? Me? Intense? Never ....

But in all honesty, I agree entirely with what you're saying. Plus, you've been there-- you KNOW how nuts it is. How completely unlike ANYTHING else, no matter how intense the soulmate connexion. It's just altogether different in its mechanism.

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posted June 28, 2014 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Wild Horses, is this the man who is somehow a public figure, who triggered your chakra activation when you saw his face?

I have this idea...he might be triggering this for you because he LOOKS like your Twin (in a way, he's a hologram of your twin), without actually being the Twin. Of course, he might as well be, I have no way of knowing this.

But I think before meeting the actual Twin, we meet holograms of him/her, who look like him, and trigger in us the activation of the idea that maybe there is a twin after all. What do you think about this idea?


It is what we call someone's physical type, with people who have a very precise one, which' I've noticed, in these cases, it's actually like an "opposite sex version" of the person - like a male you. Does this man look like you?


I thought something similar about being attracted to someone who looks like your TF, but I, ironically, thought it in reference to my husband. I was struck by how similar some of their features were. They both have these perfectly chiseled jawlines and absolute perfect specimen dimpled chins. I mean just the perfectly indented dimpled chin. Those are two features that are definitely my "type", and they both have it. There are other similarities to their bone structure and facial expressions, etc. Like my spirit recognizes that "look" or something.

With my husband, though, our connection is way more lusty and physical. It's mental and emotional and earthy. My husband and I are way more Soulmate feeling. For my husband and I, sex is a primary part of our marriage. With the other man, since sex isn't part of the equation, there's just a spiritual recognition.
He has triggered strong spiritual growth in me. He inspires me. I find him attractive, but it does not feel lustful at all. There's just a spiritual attraction.

Oh, I almost forgot about what you mentioned about looking alike. We don't look alike facially per se. He has very masculine features, and I have feminine features. Our mannerisms are VERY identical, though. The way we move. He moves like I move. In some ways, it's EXACTLY the same. He makes the same gestures, expressions, etc. I mean very specific ones. Our voices are also very, very much alike in their fluctuation, tone and inflection. Sometimes I'll say something and I'll be stunned because it will sound identical to the way I heard him say it. For example, one time I was fussing at some people for something, and I was tired and started getting a little frustrated and whiney, and I sorta flopped my hands in frustration, and said, "Guys, I don't get it!" When the words came out of my mouth, it was like I was listening to a recording of him. I said it in the SAME EXACT WAY he said it. Same tone, same whine, same gesture. Things like that happen all the time.

The primary physical resemblance between us is our eyes. The first time I saw him, the very, very first thing I noticed was, "Whoa. Those are my eyes." My eyes are a deep green that gets lighter toward the center and they have these specs of light golden amber at the top of them. His eyes look exactly like mine. Same exact shade of green, same exact shade of light golden amber at the top, same pattern of coloring. It's almost unsettling to look at his eyes because it's almost like I'm looking into my own eyes. When I see my eyes in the mirror, it's like looking into his. It's unsettling.

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posted June 28, 2014 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I relate to all of what you've said in the above, WH -- save for the relationship with your husband. But definitely looking alike, 'being' alike, and looking into YOUR eyes. That part drives me crazy, actually.

Now, point of clarity; you DO or do NOT know this man?

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
So much wisdom from so many different perspectives in this thread!

I am old enough to be the mother or grandmother of most, if not all, of you. There is a perspective that comes from being past the 2nd Saturn Return and almost past the 2nd Uranus square that I don't know how to communicate, except to say I've been there, done that and there is hope for those of you who are feeling so much pain.

But, as Gabby so eloquently points out, you have to concentrate on yourself and learn what it means to love yourself first. In my experience, it is a rare person can do that much before the age of 50-60, although you can be on that path and be making progress toward that "end." (It's a continuum, not a specific point, and I don't know that anyone ever reaches the end of that path until the last breath).

I'm trying to keep an open mind about the concept of TwinFlames. I believe we are all part of the same spiritual essence, all born whole, and all part of the same soul. We were all one with God (by whatever name you wish to call that energy) and we will all return to that source. So thinking that there is only one person who is our twinflame (or even a primary soulmate) makes no sense to me.

I do believe in soulmates, and think that if reincarnation exists, we tend to reincarnate with the same group of souls. I have met many of them in this lifetime, some as platonic friends or co-workers (both male and female), and some as male romantic partners (particularly the current one, and my ex). Some are still in my life, and some were there for only a brief time. One (my current partner, as discussed in my thread on Unaspected Sun in Composite/Davison) had been on the far-fringes of my life since 1991, with little interaction, until last summer.

If I did believe in twinflames, would he be my twinflame? I don't know; we have some of the markers I guess, but it really doesn't matter. Maybe my ex was my twinflame (in some ways, our charts were better), but that doesn't matter either. They are both part of my journey, and me of theirs, and it is what it is, and it will be what it will be. I can't predict what will happen in the future, nor would I want to.

All I know is that when we are together, it is good, even when it is not so good. And when we are apart, it is okay (most of the time; I do have my twinges of anxiety but soon realize it is the old stuff coming back to haunt me and has nothing to do with current reality). I'm better with him, but I'll be okay without him if it comes to that.

Not sure if I'm making any sense, but it's the best I can do for now.


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Originally posted by Gabby:
I see a lot of intensity in these unions through the spiritual energy they bring to the surface, the power they bring out of each person involved...it's something that isn't easy to handle but yet very powerful! Powerfully destructive and inspiring fear through a lack of understanding or inspiring evolution into a new existence....
His Pluto virgo@25
His Venus taurus@25
His Juno pisces@26
His Vishnu pisces@25
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My Unitas cap@25
My Toro cap@25
My Vishnu cap@25
My Horus cancer@25
My Raphella cancer@25
My Vibhuti cancer@25
My Yeshuhua scorp@25
My Aura cancer@27
My Gaea cancer@27
My Excalibur virgo@26

Vibhuti can refer to glorious attributes of the divine, and in this context is translated as 'all pervading', 'superhuman power', 'wealth' and so on.

Vibhuti (powers) can refer to paranormal powers that some believe can be developed by yoga practices.
Vibhuti Pada

Patanjali in the Vibhuti Pada of the Yoga Sutras, mentions many different vibhutis:

* Knowledge of the past and future
* Understanding the sounds (language) of all beings
* Knowledge of previous existences
* Knowing the minds of others
* Invisibility
* Suspending the ability of the body to be heard, touched, tasted, or smelled
* Foreknowledge of the time of death
* Strength of any attitude (such as friendliness)
* Super strength (such as the strength of an elephant)
* Knowledge of subtle, hidden, remote things
* Knowledge of worlds, realms, universes, etc.
* Knowledge of the arrangement of stars, planets, etc.
* Knowledge of the movement of stars, planets, etc.
* Knowledge of the arrangement of systems in the body
* Freedom from hunger and thirst
* Attainment of steadiness or immobility
* Visions of Siddhas (perfected beings)
* Knowledge of anything and everything
* Knowledge of the mind
* Knowledge of pure consciousness (purusha)
* Psychic hearing, touch, vision, taste, and smell
* Entering and controlling the bodies of others
* Ability to float or walk on water, swamps, thorns, and other such objects
* Ability to glow or radiate light around the body
* Super hearing (hearing at vast distances)
* Ability to fly
* Mastery over the elements (earth, water, fire, air, space)
* Making the body atomically small, indestructible, perfect
* Perfection of the body in beauty, strength, grace, and brilliance
* Mastery over the senses
* Quickness of the mind, perception with the senses
* Supremacy over all states of existence, omnipotence
* Higher knowledge
* Discriminating knowledge
* Absolute freedom (kaivalyam)

" "Hare" can be interpreted as either the vocative of Hari, another name of Vishnu meaning "he who removes illusion", or as the vocative of Harā,[3] a name of Rādhā,[4] Krishna's eternal consort or Shakti. According to A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Harā refers to "the energy of God" while Krishna and Rama refer to God himself, meaning "He who is All-Attractive" and "He who is the Source of All Pleasure".[5] "

So in other words, Hara would be the shakti (energy force) of Krishna.


Oh, these are the Siddhis (powers), right, Gabby?? Thank you for posting those.

What is the connection with TF though?

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I relate to all of what you've said in the above, WH -- save for the relationship with your husband. But definitely looking alike, 'being' alike, and looking into YOUR eyes. That part drives me crazy, actually.

Now, point of clarity, you DO or do NOT know this man?


I do not know him, yet, Indigo. I've had the chance to meet him several times over the last two years. Actually, more than several... MANY times. I am avoiding it because I'm really confused by it all.

We are both involved with the same charity and would have met one another many times in 2012, 2013, or 2014 if I had chosen to. I have been dodging events that he is at where I know I will end up being introduced to him and having to shake his hand and talk to him, and I just don't know how I'll handle the energy face to face.

I know I'm just playing kick-the-can, though, and that I'm avoiding the inevitable because things are happening that are making it harder and harder for me to avoid going to these charity functions. There are also other places he will be that I'm being pushed by other third party people to go to that I'm starting to have trouble procrastinating. They want explanations for why I won't go to these places, and I can't tell them it's because I will run into him and have to meet him face to face. I haven't told any of them how I feel about him or the effect he has on me 'cause they'd think I'm bonkers. They just want me to go along to these places with them where he'll be.

So, the gist of it is that I know it's just a matter of time before I'll run out of wiggle room and have to just get it over with and meet him. Even though it can be no more than a platonic friendship, I'll still have to figure out how to handle all of this energy in his presence. That's the reason I've been avoiding it.

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posted June 28, 2014 07:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:

Oh, I almost forgot about what you mentioned about looking alike. We don't look alike facially per se. He has very masculine features, and I have feminine features. Our mannerisms are VERY identical, though. The way we move. He moves like I move. In some ways, it's EXACTLY the same. He makes the same gestures, expressions, etc. I mean very specific ones. Our voices are also very, very much alike in their fluctuation, tone and inflection. Sometimes I'll say something and I'll be stunned because it will sound identical to the way I heard him say it. For example, one time I was fussing at some people for something, and I was tired and started getting a little frustrated and whiney, and I sorta flopped my hands in frustration, and said, "Guys, I don't get it!" When the words came out of my mouth, it was like I was listening to a recording of him. I said it in the SAME EXACT WAY he said it. Same tone, same whine, same gesture. Things like that happen all the time.

The primary physical resemblance between us is our eyes. The first time I saw him, the very, very first thing I noticed was, "Whoa. Those are my eyes." My eyes are a deep green that gets lighter toward the center and they have these specs of light golden amber at the top of them. His eyes look exactly like mine. Same exact shade of green, same exact shade of light golden amber at the top, same pattern of coloring. It's almost unsettling to look at his eyes because it's almost like I'm looking into my own eyes. When I see my eyes in the mirror, it's like looking into his.



This is interesting. So there is a search for your "male version" in this, this is probably why you resonated in the first place. If he had indeed been disfigured, maybe you wouldn't have resonated like this. Or would you have?

I need to ask you this (not just you): being in a relationship (married, boyfriend) and seeing another man/woman as your twinflame doesn't sound like betrayal to both of them for you? Don't think I'm judgmental here, this is what I imagine I would feel (on the other hand, I'm aware of the difference between imagining and being in someone else's shoes). I would feel I consider my husband/boyfriend less than this man - is this fair, is this right? Can we speak of twinflame love without purity and justice? Honest questions here, NOT judgements.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
'Strong soul resemblance' does NOT a Twin Flame make. Soul-family? Likely. Twin Soul family? Even more likely. But that whole Twin Flame thing ... it's something else entirely. A whole other crazy world.

Yes, probably. Do you think twinflames/members of the same Soul family need to be together? I used to think that and maybe that's why I was obsessed with him (and at first he seemed to be obsessed as well but then it turned out to be unrequited)

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
We are experiencing the same here.
My mom and me I mean, though I feel emotionally stable and strong, I am currently very tired, and so is she.
And some other things (for me) tying together in semi-sleep-mode, made me aware that I neglected my shielding a little too much I think.
Just one of these times when I get this feeling of "Something`s up, out there, and it isn`t up to anything good." My yearly june-paranoia I guess. lol

Ceri, I hope you are feeling better

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Quoting Taineberry in another post:
"Anteros in the natal chart symbolizes the manner in which you reciprocate love. E.g. In Aries in first house....you return love to another in a very direct manner and this is a natural part of the way you project your outer personality.
Eros is your capacity to initiate acts of eroticism/love and Anteros is your capacity to respond to someone else's eroticism/love.

Anteros aspects are common in synastry where there is a reciprocated love relationship. For example: venus conjunct anteros ...... The anteros person returns love to venus person when venus expresses their love interest and appreciation."

We have...
His Anteros 29 27 Libra conjunct my Aphrodite 28 09 And Jupiter 26 25 Libra
Semisextile Neptune 28 24 scorp
Trine Vertex 29 39
Oppose Ceres 29 33

My Anteros 14 06 Taurs trine his Amor 14 09 and his Mars 12 55 Virgo


Thank you for posting this, Karmic Moon. I love your Anteros aspects with Jupiter and Ceres; very nurturing, taking care of each other, giving back love in tangible, joyous ways.


Currently, I have some significant Anteros aspects too (in synastry) among which Eros opposite Anteros - what do you think about this one?? I consider it a natural aspect for Eros and Anteros to be. Also, Chiron conjunct Anteros - this is a tougher one, at least at first, I guess it could be very healing too. The good news is (which makes me think it's about healing after all) is that we have Composite Sun conjunct Anteros (2) in the 7th.

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Originally posted by Enneline:
(and at first he seemed to be obsessed as well but then it turned out to be unrequited)

Maybe the man just turned gay, sweetie

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Currently, I have some significant Anteros aspects too (in synastry) among which Eros opposite Anteros - what do you think about this one?? I consider it a natural aspect for Eros and Anteros to be. Also, Chiron conjunct Anteros - this is a tougher one, at least at first, I guess it could be very healing too. The good news is (which makes me think it's about healing after all) is that we have Composite Sun conjunct Anteros (2) in the 7th.

Hmmm....love is not felt as being requited but the relationship would help you to feel how someone is in love with you it would be wonderful, wouldn't it?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Maybe the man just turned gay, sweetie

Hey, even I talk about FEELINGS instead of SEX It's seldom in my case but it does happen

So, where's the dealbreaker: the missing connections to my luminaries or venus/Pluto stuff? and his feelings for me?

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Hmmm....love is not felt as being requited but the relationship would help you to feel how someone is in love with you it would be wonderful, wouldn't it?

lol why do you think Sun conjunct Anteros means love is not requited?

Well, feeling someone is in love with you while you can't reciprocate feelings can be unpleasant. It can be an ego boost, but a rather egotistical one. If you love that person as a friend, it can be tough, very unpleasant.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
lol why do you think Sun conjunct Anteros means love is not requited?

Well, feeling someone is in love with you while you can't reciprocate feelings can be unpleasant. It can be an ego boost, but a rather egotistical one. If you love that person as a friend, it can be tough, very unpleasant.


I never said that

No, sorry, I meant that you might learn to believe that someone loves you dearly. That's healing. And who says that you would not find out about your feelings for him?

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