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Wild Horses
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posted June 28, 2014 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is interesting. So there is a search for your "male version" in this, this is probably why you resonated in the first place. If he had indeed been disfigured, maybe you wouldn't have resonated like this. Or would you have?

I need to ask you this (not just you): being in a relationship (married, boyfriend) and seeing another man/woman as your twinflame doesn't sound like betrayal to both of them for you? Don't think I'm judgmental here, this is what I imagine I would feel (on the other hand, I'm aware of the difference between imagining and being in someone else's shoes). I would feel I consider my husband/boyfriend less than this man - is this fair, is this right? Can we speak of twinflame love without purity and justice? Honest questions here, NOT judgements.


It's ok, LeeLoo. Those are fair questions and I actually appreciate you asking them openly and honestly. Trust me, I torture myself with them. I don't know if you remember from other threads I posted in, but my husband and I got married very young, when I was 19, and he was 17. We've been married for 22 years. I still love him very, very much. I've been faithful, and I've had men flirt with me, proposition me, etc, but I always chose my husband and never even considered another man. I don't want to sound braggy, but my husband is very hot and has Sun-Venus-Mars conjunct in Scorpio with Pluto in his 1st house. Aries rules his 8th. He's got Eros on his MC. He's just plain hot and unreal in bed. There's never been a problem in that regard.

He has that Scopio Sun-Venus-Mars in his 2nd house, along with Mercury-Uranus. His Sun-Venus-Mars also squares his Leo Moon, so it's in a fixed sign, too. Basically, he is very HERE minded. Very grounded. Very FIXED. Very materialistic, but not in the negative sense, just in the sense that he cares only about what he can see and touch... the tangibles. He is just not spiritually minded. He cares way more about his financial growth than his spiritual growth. His North Node is in Sag, though, so I know he'll have to grow spiritually one way or another.

Now, I appreciate these things about him, and I've never held it against him. We're all wired the way we're wired. He always tries to fix his flaws, but I'd never ask him to change who he is. That's not something that needs fixed. It's just who he is. The thing, though, is that I am VERY spiritually minded. I have my Sun-Venus, Mercury, and Mars in the 12th, Eros in Pisces in 9th. My Moon is in Virgo, and Jupiter in 6th. I love to serve. I live to serve. I feel like it's my calling to do charity work, volunteer work. I have Chiron conjunct MC in the 10th. I don't care about status, ladder climbing, etc. I admire and respect people who do (Cap DC), but that's not how I'm wired myself. I care about money only as a means to an end. It buys me time... time to work on spiritual things and charity.

My husband isn't drawn to those things, though, so I spent all the years of my life from aged 19 to 40 denying part of myself and keeping my 12th house planets from being expressed. They were kept repressed. Very 12th house way in how it played out. I was getting by ok, though, because my Virgo Moon was picking up the slack. I was trying to focus on the practical day to day things and tried to ignore it.

This man, T, is wired like me and is very involved in charity work, so we just have that in common. My husband did get extremely jealous and we had fights about it. I tried to explain to him, though, that it wasn't a lustful attraction.

My husband and I talked endlessly about it all. There were many long conversations into the late, late night. At first he thought that it was just lust, that I just thought the guy was hot and wanted to screw him. He knows that's not like me, though, because even though I'm an EXTREMELY sexual person, I'm not promiscuous. I've only been with my husband and my high school boyfriend before him. So, though I have an overactive sex drive, I only express it monogamously. Thus, the jealousy based on him thinking I was just lusting after the guy was short lived. He finally admitted that he knew it was more than that. So, we had these long, heart wrenching conversations where we both had to admit a lot of things we didn't want to admit about what we were going through inside. He said that he knows why T inspires me, because he can tell that the guy's like another me. Having my husband say he recognized these things made me feel validated on some level. It felt like if he could see it, then it wasn't all in my head. If that makes sense. I was painfully honest with him, and I explained that I was just hungry for growth.

In the past, I've had a Mars-Venus conj. 0° DW with a guy. THAT felt like pure lust! I saw that Mars-Venus DW guy rub his fingers across his bottom lip one time, and I felt an unspeakable urge to literally rip his clothes off and go straight to it. It was like some rabid itch I wanted to scratch. I didn't act on the feeling, though, and I immediately cut off contact with that guy. I did feel what pure, raw, unfiltered lust feels like, though, and it had no love involved whatsoever. I felt no love for that guy. That Mars-Venus 0° DW just created this carnal, purely physical urge to "f". No heart involvement. That's why I don't care too much about seeing them in synastry. They can cause someone to wanna screw your brains out, and not even care what your name is. It's pure lust.

That is nothing like what I feel for T. I don't want to rip his clothes off. I don't want to ravage him. It's not likr that. He doesn't trigger feelings in the "lust" zone. His Jupiter conjuncts my Sun and Venus 0° in my 12th. His Venus is only 3° away from those. I think that shows it's more of a spiritual thing. Also, my Jupiter is opp. his Venus. The Composite has a Cancer Sun and Cancer Moon, which may explain why I feel so warm-hearted toward him. The Composite also has a tight Mars-Moon-Venus conjunction tightly square Jupiter and Pluto. Also, his asteroid Angel is on my Sun and Venus 0°. I think all of that is what is contributing to him having such a profound spiritual impact on me and triggering such a childlike feeling.

I love and respect my husband very much, and we've always agreed that we would always be honest and respectful with one another in our marriage. Sometimes you have to respect someone enough to tell them the truth. You have to think they are worthy of knowing the truth and you can't lie to them. That's how our marriage is. He knows I've been faithful to him and always will be, but this other man has some role to play in my spiritual growth. The man's draconic Sun is on my tropical DC 0° and tropical N.Node 1°. He also knows that this is all a very spiritual thing that's happening, but he just doesn't get or care much about spiritual stuff. He's pretty spiritually tone deaf.

We both have agreed to not lie to one another, but to be as honest as we can be. So, we both can rest in knowing that we'll never be blindsided with the tragedy of having our spouse sleep with someone else behind our back while they are still with us. We won't betray one another like that. I've given my husband my word that if things ever threatened to lead to a physical place with this guy, even if I just had the chance to kiss him, I will not do it. I love my husband and will be faithful to him, and I'm fairly certain this man will be faithful to his wife. I have a great marriage, and he seems to have one, too. Even if we find each other attractive, it will not be a factor. This is more of a spiritual, soul-growth thing.

I know it's not the ideal, and if nothing ever comes of it... even better, but my husband and I are trying to handle it together with as much dignity and respect for each other as possible. I think it helps a lot that our Composite has a super tight 1st house stellium all in Virgo. We've always been very practical and realistic about our relationship. We've always been very real and no-BS with each other.

I don't know if I answered your questions in the way you meant them, or maybe I over answered them. If there's anything else you wanna know just ask.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
As a matter of fact, now I am. But don`t ask me about last night.

Woke up with a start at 1:23. I kid you not, the sequence looked almost like a countdown (or countup for that matter).

Some weird feelings, which I usually contribute to, I don´t know, paranoia, night-fear or whatever.
However this morning it turned out that a very heavy vase for flowers in our garden has been suddenly lying on the ground. It is real heavy, you need to really push against it to make it tumble. So who knows maybe I was being awoken by the noise of it? No clue.
Just hope it is dealt with for now.

But now and then I am waking up in these "weird states of mind". This night I was actually waking up in the middle of a sentence I said, and apparently said it to Anubis.
so okay, seems i am in nightly conversations with the God of the dead. Umph, never mind.
Perfectly sane here.
If it is not the riders of the apocalypse, it is Anubis. Okay.

Well only happens a few times a year, so I think it is okay, most of all must just be my subconsciousness seeping through to the surface occasionally.



It is quite possible you're processing a message, one you're not quite grasping yet (maybe something dies or is being reborn within your psyche?) Anubis, as a "carrier between worlds" is also a psychopomp carrying messages between various parts of our psyche (like from the uncoscious to the conscious and viceversa) Anything significant with Anubis in your transits?

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posted June 28, 2014 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry 'bout that. My Computer's going crazy.

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Christoph Waltz perfectly embodies the German stereotype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUZv6bn7Hwg

And what's the Romanian cliche?


Oh, my, how I love Waltz! But isn't he Austrian?

The Romanian cliche below:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, my, how I love Waltz! But isn't he Austrian?

The Romanian cliche below:


He is half German but i meant not him personally, I meant his role only

I looooveee Dracula and this one is sooooo sexy:
http://youtu.be/gmBSqlJTdbU

[YouTube]gmBSqlJTdbU[/Youtube]

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Those are beautiful placements LeeLoo. Eros oppose Anteros, a perfect balance of giving and receiving love. Chiron conjunct Anteros, when the Anteros person returns the love of Chiron, healing will occur? In a previous life love was unrequitted creating a wound? One that will be healed when love is returned in this life?Sun cj Anteros in the 7th needs no explaination!

Awww...thanks for the insight!


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So LeeLoo, is this your possible TF? You haven't said whether you suspect someone might be or not?

Pluto Man? My Twinflame? Of course, how could he not be?

After all, I help here on the lovebirds forum, don't I deserve a TF?

Just kidding. Ask me that after our first 20 years together

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What do you think about including pairings like Eros/Anteros and Aphrodite/Anteros as a type of "soulmate bond". They aren't lovers but family. Either invoking a close, familiar feeling or representing past lifes as possible family members together. His Adonis conjuncts my Aphrodite on the other side, a love connection and family connection. I have found what I consider a large amount of mythological pairings in our synastry.

I like this idea. Something like a soul group. I also think these pairs, especially if they are repeated in several charts (Draco, persona charts, helio, progressions etc.) show a THEME of the relationship reflected by the respective myth. I was thinking about a future thread on this, where we can explore these themes.

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Have you ever looked at someones chart and seen connections they might make with your SM or TF and then wonder if it might just be a coincidence? I guess what I am getting at is what puts the synastry into action? Maybe thats what we should be looking for.



I'm not sure I understood the question here. You mean comparing your boyfriend's or man of interest chart with a woman to see how they would get along?
About the synastry into action...it's an interesting thought. However, the synastry in itself is two people putting each other "into action", they are like permanent transits to each other. Of course, progressions and transits trigger things in their story.


I think your question is: how can we have a marriage chart like Enneline's but no relationship, right?

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
There's that, but I don't know, I'm not french .



Hehe are there any national cliches for you?

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Sorry 'bout that. My Computer's going crazy.

It's OK You wrote a beautiful post (as usually) and you're a beautiful person! I'll give it a proper answer when I get back, thank you for your post!

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posted June 28, 2014 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I'm not sure I understood the question here. You mean comparing your boyfriend's or man of interest chart with a woman to see how they would get along?
About the synastry into action...it's an interesting thought. However, the synastry in itself is two people putting each other "into action", they are like permanent transits to each other. Of course, progressions and transits trigger things in their story.


I think your question is: how can we have a marriage chart like Enneline's but no relationship, right?


Yes, you can have a great chart but nothing becomes of it, one or the other isn't attracted and so it is unrequitted. Or you eventually outgrow that chart and move on. Sometimes you see a synastry and wonder why people are attracted to each other. I ran a synastry from one of the websites for my best friend and her husband. It said they were completely imcompatible, they have been married 20 years . So it seems there is something else that must come into play.

What I was getting at with the charts...I know my SM's chart inside and out from studying it so much so when I look at other peoples charts it justs pops into my head if there are aspects.

For example, I was looking at a friends chart. We are new friends and almost astro twins. Our angles, Moons, Nodes, outer planets all conjunct. We are two months apart. I can't help but see when looking that her Sun sq his Sun and trines his Venus almost exact. I had his name asteroid up at the time and that conjunct her NN. Since her Moon is conjunct mine hers must also trine his Chiron. My SN conjuncts her SN so therefore her SN conjuncts his NN. They have connections. Of course, they don't know each other but if they did would they feel it? Probably not (although I have been preoccupied with discovering how to identify people in our soul group and think this may be related to that). Another example, I have my NN conjunct a male platonic friends Vertex but I can't see how that would ever play out even though technically we have a relationship. Nothing probably ever becomes of that aspect. So I see things like this and think maybe you can have aspects with people that are just coincidence. You must meet people every day that would make aspects with your chart but never connect. Or if you look at 50 asteroids, of course you are going to find aspects between the charts. So why do you feel these aspects with some and not others. Maybe the other doesn't feel them, making it an unrequitted love situation. Hope that makes sense.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

It is quite possible you're processing a message, one you're not quite grasping yet (maybe something dies or is being reborn within your psyche?) Anubis, as a "carrier between worlds" is also a psychopomp carrying messages between various parts of our psyche (like from the uncoscious to the conscious and viceversa) Anything significant with Anubis in your transits?


4

It is not only likely it is for certain!
But my subconsciousness needs to work it out a bit before letting me know, so I just leave her be, doing the work she is supposed to do. She will share her insights with me, when and if she is ready. Another thing I learned. Sometimes I am not meant to know things when I WANT to know them.

Anubis, let me see, my own Anubis is on 28 Capricorn. I think Tr Jupiter is opposing it currently. Don`t know if other planets are there.


Oooh interesting Tr Anubis is on 20 Aquarius retro. Must have been conjunct my Moon on 17 Aquarius a while back and is headed there again.

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posted June 28, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, these are the Siddhis (powers), right, Gabby?? Thank you for posting those.

What is the connection with TF though?


Here is our composite chart, I didn't have room to include Eros cap@17.49, Psyche taurus@14.46, Amor pisces@14.50, Kama pisces@12.25, Karma cancer@15.30
Aspecting NN cap@16.04

Im not sure what all you want included....
Our Sun is on his Sun/Moon midpoint (by minutes) also on his anti-vertex(1-2 degree)
My Venus libra@19.02 trines our Sun aqua@19.03
Our Moon is on my Sun/Moon midpoint (by minutes)
Our Uranus is on my Anti-Vertex/Destin(1degree)
His natal Mars is sextile comp Venus (2.5 degree)
My natal Venus is trine comp Mars (2.5 degree)
His natal Venus is taurus@25 is on our DC
My natal NN is scorp@21.44 on our AC(not tight 3.5-4 degree)
His Natal NN is pisces@10.20 on our IC
My natal Osiris pisces@10 on our IC
My natal Juno is virgo@12 on our MC
His natal AC cap@13.44 on our comp NN
My Isis taurus@15
My natal Saggy@4.28/his Natal Moon saggy@5.05 on comp Neptune opposed his natal Mars
Our Pluto, Mars and Neptune aspect my natal Karma libra@5.52
His natal Isis libra@5 on our Pluto
His natal Osiris libra@25 on our Moon
Our Moon and Mercury aspect his natal Karma aries@25
We have a few tight Isis/Osiris aspects but the most exact is His Draco Osiris scorpio@15/My Tropical Isis taurus@15

His natal Saturn taurus@11
His natal IC taurus@9
His Natal Valentine cap@9.20
My natal Valentine cap@9.50
My natal Eros cap@9.00
Trine our comp MC and my natal Juno virgo@12


I couldn't put it in but I like that Asbolus leo@9.43 is conjunct Venus!
Asbolus shows how you have chosen in this incarnation to correct past life injuries or failures.

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posted June 28, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Like, oh, say, SUN conjunct PLUTO (2°) and BML and parallel ASC? Me? Intense? Never ....

But in all honesty, I agree entirely with what you're saying. Plus, you've [b]been there-- you KNOW how nuts it is. How completely unlike ANYTHING else, no matter how intense the soulmate connexion. It's just altogether different in its mechanism.[/B]


Yep....that would be what I'm talking about!!!! Lol
My libra Pluto is distantly conjunct my Venus(7 degrees), it opposes my aries Jupiter(4 degrees) squares my cap Eros/Valentine(1-1.5 degree) and my cap Lust(2 degree)
What's even funnier is Sado sits on my Pluto!!
What kind of luck is that?? Sado/Pluto oppose Anubis exactly?? Lol...oh well, I can't change it!

This poor guy, his Alma sits exact on my Anubis making crazy aspects to all of this!! Awe...I fell bad, his soul is stuck in the middle of my intensity/insanity!
His AC is cap@13-14, he's just caught up in my intensity mess!! Lol
His Psyche is on my Vertex opposed my Venus which squares his Eros(0-1.5 degree)....that's a mess to!
My Alma is exact on his Vertex which squares my NN and opposes his Sun/Moon midpoint and our Comp Sun.

His Pluto squares my mars(4.5 degrees), his Pluto is an exact aspect to his Venus and Juno...so he's got his own intensity issues to deal with. His Eros also aspects all this, just like mine aspects in with my Pluto.
His is soft aspects though so he can handle it easier than me, but with taurus x4 in natal, Sun/Merc/Sat/Venus/IC when he explodes im sure its volcanic....ive never seen it though.

Your so right, there is no soulmate intensity to compare to energy of this....it's on a whole different level. It's kind of hard to put into words. When I think about times I was with him it's like everything is in these bright intense colors but everything is washed out by a white light, the light softens everything. I don't really understand why my memories with him seem so different, surreal in a way. I hate to say it because it's so cliche, but it felt like everything was vibrating at a higher rate, like there was a heartbeat you could feel in everything around you...it made me feel so small and insignificant compared to the energy of everything around me...being near him amplified the energy vibration of EVERYTHING, not just us!
I think that's why it is hard to know what to do when your just sitting there together with no focus. In a way it feels like everything has came alive around you and you don't know what to do with yourself or how you fit in. Feeling all the new activity around you, it's kind of unnerving almost creepy at first! I guess it's something you have to get used to.....id like to try!

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posted June 28, 2014 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Yep....that would be what I'm talking about!!!! Lol
My libra Pluto is distantly conjunct my Venus(7 degrees), it opposes my aries Jupiter(4 degrees) squares my cap Eros/Valentine(1-1.5 degree) and my cap Lust(2 degree)
What's even funnier is Sado sits on my Pluto!!
What kind of luck is that?? Sado/Pluto oppose Anubis exactly?? Lol...oh well, I can't change it!

This poor guy, his Alma sits exact on my Anubis making crazy aspects to all of this!! Awe...I fell bad, his soul is stuck in the middle of my intensity/insanity!
His AC is cap@13-14, he's just caught up in my intensity mess!! Lol
His Psyche is on my Vertex opposed my Venus which squares his Eros(0-1.5 degree)....that's a mess to!
My Alma is exact on his Vertex which squares my NN and opposes his Sun/Moon midpoint and our Comp Sun.

His Pluto squares my mars(4.5 degrees), his Pluto is an exact aspect to his Venus and Juno...so he's got his own intensity issues to deal with. His Eros also aspects all this, just like mine aspects in with my Pluto.
His is soft aspects though so he can handle it easier than me, but with taurus x4 in natal, Sun/Merc/Sat/Venus/IC when he explodes im sure its volcanic....ive never seen it though.

Your so right, there is no soulmate intensity to compare to energy of this....it's on a whole different level. It's kind of hard to put into words. When I think about times I was with him it's like everything is in these bright intense colors but everything is washed out by a white light, the light softens everything. I don't really understand why my memories with him seem so different, surreal in a way. I hate to say it because it's so cliche, but it felt like everything was vibrating at a higher rate, like there was a heartbeat you could feel in everything around you...it made me feel so small and insignificant compared to the energy of everything around me...being near him amplified the energy vibration of EVERYTHING, not just us!
I think that's why it is hard to know what to do when your just sitting there together with no focus. In a way it feels like everything has came alive around you and you don't know what to do with yourself or how you fit in. Feeling all the new activity around you, it's kind of unnerving almost creepy at first! I guess it's something you have to get used to.....id like to try!


I have felt that energy but I still think it is a soulmate not a TF. It's so intense that it frightens me yet it is also so seductive, almost addicting in a way. It sounds so cliche and pathetic but when I look into is eyes I can see his soul, even in photographs. They say TF's rarely incarnate together, do you believe that is true? Because I think I have had 100's of lives with this man so he couldn't be a TF based on that belief.

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posted June 28, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gabby, again, great posts, I second to everything you say.
Exactly my experience.

The energy is so intense, becomes palpable, other people start to notice it when you two are together... it frightens you both, you both want to run from it, yet you seek each other's company... it is better handled when you do some practical thing together... you both are repulsed by this intensity, it is difficult to look at each other, to sit next to each other, yet you both crave it... it evokes deep insecurities in both of you, you feel very vulnerable and exposed, it gets out of hand, you say hurtful things to each other, you start avoiding each other... it hurts even more... then one of you makes an attempt to get hold of the energy and suddenly the vibes are better again.

Great advice that you both must be mature and strong enough to handle this energy, otherwise it destroys you. He told me: I have had several connections in this life, but never anything like this, this is craziness.

I feel - among other things - immense lust for this man, like I have never felt for anyone, we have Lust conj Sun in composite . And his Eros conjuncts my Anteros in synastry.

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really? I thought it's the cliché of my country as well lol. My country is reputed as saying one thing and doing another (the worst kind of irresponsibility).

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posted June 28, 2014 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
I have felt that energy but I still think it is a soulmate not a TF. It's so intense that it frightens me yet it is also so seductive, almost addicting in a way. It sounds so cliche and pathetic but when I look into is eyes I can see his soul, even in photographs. They say TF's rarely incarnate together, do you believe that is true? Because I think I have had 100's of lives with this man so he couldn't be a TF based on that belief.

I do kind of believe TF rarely incarnate together, but nothing is set in stone!
iQ told me that him and I were married once during biblical time period, we have Magdelena/Yeshuhua tight aspects in many different forms, my temple/Abhramu/Jeramiahs/Apostle, some others also exact on my Neptune, which is exact square his Apostle Temple on my Juno, which is on his SN.
It seems our life path led to my death, and he blamed himself, his Saturn taurus@11 is the point of a Yod with my libra Pluto@11, and my saggy Neptune@11....that's an indication of something like that happening.

I would look at aspects, if he looks like a TF and you have that energy he probably is!
I think nothing is exactly like everyone else, whatever you and your TF needs....is what will happen.

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
It's ok, LeeLoo. Those are fair questions and I actually appreciate you asking them openly and honestly. Trust me, I torture myself with them. I don't know if you remember from other threads I posted in, but my husband and I got married very young, when I was 19, and he was 17. We've been married for 22 years. I still love him very, very much, and from our wedding in 1991 till 2012 I was happily married and never even thought of another man. I was faithful in thought and deed. I've had men flirt with me, proposition me, etc, but I always chose my husband and never even considered another man. I don't want to sound braggy, but my husband is very hot and has Sun-Venus-Mars conjunct in Scorpio with Pluto in his 1st house. Aries rules his 8th. He's got Eros on his MC. He's just plain hot and unreal in bed. There's never been a problem in that regard.

He has that Scopio Sun-Venus-Mars in his 2nd house, along with Mercury-Uranus. His Sun-Venus-Mars also squares his Leo Moon, so it's in a fixed sign, too.



Oh, my, you married a sex god. What a treasure! Cherish him, Wild Horses.
What does Aries ruling 8th house mean, in your opinion? Always ready for action? lol I have a direct interest in this

Thank you for your honest message. I am glad to hear you and your husband are so open with each other, I remember the marvelous communication aspects in your synastry He must be/have been very jealous though, but probably realized you need to clarify yourself about this man; to me, emotional "cheating" is even worse than physical cheating, but I can see this is about something else with you...perhaps
If you really have the chance to meet this man, maybe you should do it. But prepare for a possible disappointment: by this, I mean, he may as well be just a TRIGGER (especially his physique - your Uranus/ASC connection, your Uranus on IC - like finding a long lost relative or very good friend). His personality may be very different than you imagine and only his appearance triggered this in you. I experienced something similar and only the appearance reminded me of someone important I met after him, but he triggered something very strong in me because he looked like this person I was about to meet.

Anyway, maybe there will be no disappointment involved in your meeting, but probably, if this is so important to you, you need to find out if what you felt is about this man or something indirect. If it's about this man in particular, well, you'll see what you do, both or the three of you lol

If it's indirect, than I guess the situation changes a bit and can become very rewarding.
You're describing these chakra openings and they sound like the real thing. Have you started some sort of meditation?

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Originally posted by Enneline:
He is half German but i meant not him personally, I meant his role only

I looooveee Dracula and this one is sooooo sexy:
http://youtu.be/gmBSqlJTdbU

[YouTube]gmBSqlJTdbU[/Youtube]


Hahaha I love Gary Oldman in this movie. But Wynona apparently isn't one of smartest gals around, she had one sentence in Romanian in a very dramatic moment and she couldn't learn it, it was unintelligible.

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Yes, you can have a great chart but nothing becomes of it, one or the other isn't attracted and so it is unrequitted. Or you eventually outgrow that chart and move on. Sometimes you see a synastry and wonder why people are attracted to each other. I ran a synastry from one of the websites for my best friend and her husband. It said they were completely imcompatible, they have been married 20 years . So it seems there is something else that must come into play.

What I was getting at with the charts...I know my SM's chart inside and out from studying it so much so when I look at other peoples charts it justs pops into my head if there are aspects.

For example, I was looking at a friends chart. We are new friends and almost astro twins. Our angles, Moons, Nodes, outer planets all conjunct. We are two months apart. I can't help but see when looking that her Sun sq his Sun and trines his Venus almost exact. I had his name asteroid up at the time and that conjunct her NN. Since her Moon is conjunct mine hers must also trine his Chiron. My SN conjuncts her SN so therefore her SN conjuncts his NN. They have connections. Of course, they don't know each other but if they did would they feel it? Probably not (although I have been preoccupied with discovering how to identify people in our soul group and think this may be related to that). Another example, I have my NN conjunct a male platonic friends Vertex but I can't see how that would ever play out even though technically we have a relationship. Nothing probably ever becomes of that aspect. So I see things like this and think maybe you can have aspects with people that are just coincidence. You must meet people every day that would make aspects with your chart but never connect. Or if you look at 50 asteroids, of course you are going to find aspects between the charts. So why do you feel these aspects with some and not others. Maybe the other doesn't feel them, making it an unrequitted love situation. Hope that makes sense.



This is very interesting. However, I'm thinking it's not random that those people actually don't know each other. Some of them will never meet. So it doesn't matter if they have good contacts in their synastry. They are not destined to meet. So doing their synastry is futile, I guess. Even in the case of astro twins, there are differences and probably those differences play a lot in regards to relationships. Otherwise, they would both fall in love with the same person, and this doesn't happen often. I believe synastries are not random, they do show the story between two people. Sometimes the connection or the disconnection is more difficult to spot, but it must be there. It's like a map of reality.

Regarding NN conjunct Vertex, it only shows those two people are meant to meet each (the possibility in fact, not the certainty(, it doesn't show the nature of the relationship. Many aspects there combined show the nature of the relationship, IMO. And you can try for instance to run some synastries with some celebs: you will find NN conjunct Vertex or angles or many contacts there, but it is unlikely you will ever meet them in person. This doesn't depend on synastric aspects.

So I guess synastries only come into play and should be looked at only if two people already met, this is when the map becomes active.


About unrequited love...it is possibly very complex and I intend to discuss that in depth.

What do you think the aspects or markers of unrequited are?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
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Oooh interesting Tr Anubis is on 20 Aquarius retro. Must have been conjunct my Moon on 17 Aquarius a while back and is headed there again.


Oh, yes....Moon conjunct Anubis in Aqua...this is potent!

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Gabby, again, great posts, I second to everything you say.
Exactly my experience.

The energy is so intense, becomes palpable, other people start to notice it when you two are together... it frightens you both, you both want to run from it, yet you seek each other's company... it is better handled when you do some practical thing together... you both are repulsed by this intensity, it is difficult to look at each other, to sit next to each other, yet you both crave it... it evokes deep insecurities in both of you, you feel very vulnerable and exposed, it gets out of hand, you say hurtful things to each other, you start avoiding each other... it hurts even more... then one of you makes an attempt to get hold of the energy and suddenly the vibes are better again.

Great advice that you both must be mature and strong enough to handle this energy, otherwise it destroys you. He told me: I have had several connections in this life, but never anything like this, this is craziness.

I feel - among other things - immense lust for this man, like I have never felt for anyone, we have Lust conj Sun in composite . And his Eros conjuncts my Anteros in synastry.


Are you together, jjj? I've been looking for a synastry of people feeling like this for each other and being together for quite some time Can you post it? Maybe we can see what gives this feeling, astrologically.

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
My country is reputed as saying one thing and doing another (the worst kind of irresponsibility).



that's good to know sooner than later....thanks!

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What does Aries ruling 8th house mean, in your opinion? Always ready for action? lol I have a direct interest in this

Oh yeah, always ready. For inaction

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