posted June 28, 2014 04:54 PM              

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[QUOTE]What does Aries ruling 8th house mean, in your opinion? Always ready for action? lol I have a direct interest in this

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Oh yeah, always ready. For inaction

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posted June 28, 2014 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by jjj:
Gabby, again, great posts, I second to everything you say.
Exactly my experience.

The energy is so intense, becomes palpable, other people start to notice it when you two are together... it frightens you both, you both want to run from it, yet you seek each other's company... it is better handled when you do some practical thing together... you both are repulsed by this intensity, it is difficult to look at each other, to sit next to each other, yet you both crave it... it evokes deep insecurities in both of you, you feel very vulnerable and exposed, it gets out of hand, you say hurtful things to each other, you start avoiding each other... it hurts even more... then one of you makes an attempt to get hold of the energy and suddenly the vibes are better again.

Great advice that you both must be mature and strong enough to handle this energy, otherwise it destroys you. He told me: I have had several connections in this life, but never anything like this, this is craziness.

I feel - among other things - immense lust for this man, like I have never felt for anyone, we have Lust conj Sun in composite . And his Eros conjuncts my Anteros in synastry.

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It always sounds nice from an outside perspective, but it really really hard to understand how difficult the energy can be to handle!! It's kind of an overload for anyone that hasn't allowed themselves to learn how to be heart driven, allowed their higher self to connect to their subconscious and stopped thinking with their ego and living in fear of not getting 'theirs'. Once you can let go and trust the universe has got you covered....you can let go and trust nothing bad can come from this intensity, it's only a love deeper than we are familiar with....it's not dangerous it's just pure! We don't feel much of anything purely anymore!!!

posted June 28, 2014 05:01 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Don't worry hun, I'm pretty sure your PM wouldn't mind a conjunction

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posted June 28, 2014 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Are you together, jjj? I've been looking for a synastry of people feeling like this for each other and being together for quite some time Can you post it? Maybe we can see what gives this feeling, astrologically.

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No, we are not together... but you never know how it will go, at least he is not gay . I cant post the charts now... in some days.

Astrologically, what can play a role... my Chiron is parallel and my Juno is contraparallel to his Venus-Juno contraparallel, so we have Chiron-Venus, Chiron-Juno, Juno-Venus in parallels... his Valentine conjuncts my Mars-Venus and as Mir pointed out, in progressed compo at the moment it started we had (and still have for quite some time) Mars-Venus opposite and parallel, so a bilevel alignment that is rare.

posted June 28, 2014 05:20 PM              

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Originally posted by jjj:

Astrologically, what can play a role... my Chiron is parallel and my Juno is contraparallel to his Venus-Juno contraparallel, so we have Chiron-Venus, Chiron-Juno, Juno-Venus in parallels... his Valentine conjuncts my Mars-Venus and as Mir pointed out, in progressed compo at the moment it started we had (and still have for quite some time) Mars-Venus opposite and parallel, so a bilevel alignment that is rare.

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posted June 29, 2014 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

What does Aries ruling 8th house mean, in your opinion? Always ready for action? lol I have a direct interest in this

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Hah! Nooooot here. But then it depends upon MARS. Mine's in 3H, 0° SAG. Granted, his is conjunct VENUS, but in the 2H. I'm not sure if that's going to be 'ready for action', either. Heh.

posted June 29, 2014 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
Not only are committed TF's in short supply around here but men seem conspicuously absent as well. I've been thinking about a thread for a while to see if I could get some men to chime in. Maybe we should take a lesson from them, they don't seem interested in all these labels and expectations.

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posted June 29, 2014 01:21 AM            

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It always sounds nice from an outside perspective, but it really really hard to understand how difficult the energy can be to handle!! It's kind of an overload for anyone that hasn't allowed themselves to learn how to be heart driven, allowed their higher self to connect to their subconscious and stopped thinking with their ego and living in fear of not getting 'theirs'. Once you can let go and trust the universe has got you covered....you can let go and trust nothing bad can come from this intensity, it's only a love deeper than we are familiar with....it's not dangerous it's just pure! We don't feel much of anything purely anymore!!!

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Gabby, really, I completely agree and I know exactly what you're talking about.

But really Gabby, this has NOTHING to do with the fact whether you believe in TF's or not.

This, ^^ this ^^ this particular feeling.. this this ^^ this particular process you're describing (all-over-the-place), you don't even HAVE to believe in ANY higher power to feel it, to go through it.. it's NOT depending on a BeLiEf beyond this world. THIS our earthy existense delivers it all. P U R E L Y .

Well, I guess I get the feeling that it's all delivered in an unnecessary TF package or something.. with the exlusion of a group that essentially completely corresponds in its experience. The Philosophy of Emotions would/should not be restricted to a selected few. I'ts too pure & natural for that. Why paper it with a label?

posted June 29, 2014 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Oh, my, you married a sex god. What a treasure! Cherish him, Wild Horses.
What does Aries ruling 8th house mean, in your opinion? Always ready for action? lol I have a direct interest in this

Thank you for your honest message. I am glad to hear you and your husband are so open with each other, I remember the marvelous communication aspects in your synastry He must be/have been very jealous though, but probably realized you need to clarify yourself about this man, to me, emotional "cheating" is even worse than physical cheating, but I can see this is about something else with you...perhaps
If you really have the chance to meet this man, maybe you should do it. But prepare for a possible disappointment: by this, I mean, he may as well be just a TRIGGER (especially his physique - your Uranus/ASC connection, your Uranus on IC - like finding a long lost relative or very good friend). His personality may be very different than you imagine and only his appearance triggered this in you. I experienced something similar and only the appearance reminded me of someone important I met after him, but he triggered something very strong in me because he looked like this person I was about to meet.

Anyway, maybe there will be no disappointment involved in your meeting, but probably, if this is so important to you, you need to find out if what you felt is about this man or something indirect. If it's about this man in particular, well, you'll see what you do, both or the three of you lol

If it's indirect, than I guess the situation changes a bit and can become very rewarding.
You're describing these chakra openings and they sound like the real thing. Have you started some sort of meditation?

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I think Aries ruling his 8th makes him very impatient when it comes to sex. When he wants it, he wants it NOW. RIGHT NOW! He honestly gets frustrated and pouts if anything hinders or delays the action. He acts very Aries like in that way.

Another way he's Aries like sexually is in his need to feel like the conqueror. If for some reason I'm not feeling in the mood or tired or something, if I'm reluctant for any reason and he's able to win me over, he gets flat out thrilled. He acts just like an Aries at those times. I can see this proud look come into his eyes that he's so happy he "conquered" me. It's very charming, actually.

I know I really am blessed. I've just been sent for a loop by this spiritual explosion. I've just gotta get a handle on it is all it boils down to.

I don't think it's my Uranus on this man's AC that's solely responsible. I know it's strong, but I've had other guys AC hit my Uranus more exactly than him and it felt like nothing. Heck, Gerard Butler's AC hits my Uranus 0°, and I don't even think he's attractive. So, it's something else.
I'm beginning to think the main culprit is my Saturn on his Mars 0° applying. Saturn is my 7th Ruler and Mars is his 7th Ruler. That conjunction is in his 8th and trines almost exactly his Pluto conj. my Uranus almost exactly. His Pluto is on my IC 1°, too, so it's having a transforming effect on my Foundation. I've read that Saturn conj. Mars 0° can create this feeling of bone deep need, way, way deeper than Venus-Mars. I think it might be having that sort of result with me since it's both our DC rulers. I'm not sure.

I love my husband, though, and have no intention of cheating on him. This other man feels like he is meant to touch my soul and spirit, not my body. There are some strong connections between both our draconics and tropical charts. Lots of pattern completion there, so maybe that's why he has such an impact on me at a soul level. I want to thank you and the others who have offered their insight very much.

If you wouldn't mind, maybe I can start another thread and put up mine and my husband's progressed charts or progressed Composite and Davison, and you might be able to tell me what you see there.

posted June 29, 2014 06:20 AM              

Also relationships aren't static, unrequited can mean one person is 'into it' while the other person isn't, but then the tables turn down the line (which again plays into the concept of unity- cutting the "cord" isn't always so simple)

posted June 29, 2014 07:06 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, there are a few. They chime in.

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posted June 29, 2014 10:32 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Gabby, really, I completely agree and I know exactly what you're talking about.

But really Gabby, this has NOTHING to do with the fact whether you believe in TF's or not.

This, ^^ this ^^ this particular feeling.. this this ^^ this particular process you're describing (all-over-the-place), you don't even HAVE to believe in ANY higher power to feel it, to go through it.. it's NOT depending on a BeLiEf beyond this world. THIS our earthy existense delivers it all. P U R E L Y .

Well, I guess I get the feeling that it's all delivered in an unnecessary TF package or something.. with the exlusion of a group that essentially completely corresponds in its experience. The Philosophy of Emotions would/should not be restricted to a selected few. I'ts too pure & natural for that. Why paper it with a label?

Hm.. am I making sense?

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That makes sense Mir!! Thank you for responding, I'm not sure if your asking me to explain myself further or just stating your thoughts....but I'll try to explain myself to be more clear. Sorry if I wasn't making myself clear!

posted June 29, 2014 11:08 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, these are the Siddhis (powers), right, Gabby?? Thank you for posting those.

What is the connection with TF though?

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Gosh, I can be so brain dead at times! I posted our chart thinking you were asking in general what was our TF connection!! Lol

You were asking how the Siddhis(powers) relate to the TF connection....da! Lol, I was having a blond moment!

posted June 29, 2014 11:44 AM            

My Alma leo@21.58
His Vertex leo@21.13

His Vishnu fits right in also....

His Pluto virgo@25
His Venus taurus@25
His Juno pisces@26
His Vishnu pisces@26
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My Unitas cap@25
My Toro cap@25
My Vishnu cap@25
My Horus cancer@25
My Raphella cancer@25
My Vibhuti cancer@25
My Yeshuhua scorp@25
My Aura cancer@27
My Gaea cancer@27
My Excalibur virgo@26

Comp chart-
Vibhuti gemini@7.34-7th house
Venus leo@7.19-9th house
Neptune saggy@5.44
Angel aqua@6.43
My AC libra@7.05
His Chiron aries@7.53
Our Sun/Moon conjunction is saggy@4.28/saggy@5.05 opposed comp Vibhuti

posted June 29, 2014 12:02 PM            

His 11th-
Sun aries@9.45
Venus saggy@11.06
Pluto leo@6.19(lil far)
Comp Venus leo@7.19

His 11th Vishnu aqua@24.39
My 11th Moon taurus@24.35
His natal Venus taurus@25.33
His natal Pluto virgo@25.07
His 11th Vertex cancer@23.12
My 11th Vertex scorp@25.22

My natal Chiron aries@24.14
His 11th Horus aries@25.17
His 11th Atlantis aries@25.33
His 11th NN leo@24.36

posted June 29, 2014 02:06 PM              

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Originally posted by Selene:
Of course i have.

But the thing is... he considers me his soulmate as well and has told me that not once, but several times. It is just not about the romantic love, but about soul connection. And that we do feel. Since the first time we met. He was the one who first said we have met before.. and he is the one that keeps contacting me even when i want to rest from that. It's just that. We want to be around each other no matter what everybody else thinks of that. People that are around us know that very well. They call me if they want to know if he is going somewhere, our friends ask him where am i, etc. Because basically everybody in our circle know that we care for each other that much. That's why it is so weird. We're so really close and i don't know what could have caused that if not the soul affinity.

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posted June 29, 2014 02:10 PM              

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Originally posted by jjj:
Gabby, again, great posts, I second to everything you say.
Exactly my experience.

The energy is so intense, becomes palpable, other people start to notice it when you two are together... it frightens you both, you both want to run from it, yet you seek each other's company... it is better handled when you do some practical thing together... you both are repulsed by this intensity, it is difficult to look at each other, to sit next to each other, yet you both crave it... it evokes deep insecurities in both of you, you feel very vulnerable and exposed, it gets out of hand, you say hurtful things to each other, you start avoiding each other... it hurts even more... then one of you makes an attempt to get hold of the energy and suddenly the vibes are better again.

Great advice that you both must be mature and strong enough to handle this energy, otherwise it destroys you. He told me: I have had several connections in this life, but never anything like this, this is craziness.

I feel - among other things - immense lust for this man, like I have never felt for anyone, we have Lust conj Sun in composite . And his Eros conjuncts my Anteros in synastry.

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Jjj and Gabby,

is this not the feeling of being madly in love, the exhilarating kind, in a higher dose, associated with the famous love chemicals, especially PEA?

When you say you and a romantic partner 'have chemistry' you're right! There is a lot of chemistry involved in feeling attachment, sweaty palms, butterflies in your stomach, etc. Have you ever wondered exactly what chemicals are involved in feeling love? Here's a look at some of the key biochemical players:

phenylethylamine or PEA - This is an amine that naturally occurs in the brain and also in some foods, such as chocolate. It is a stimulant, much like an amphetamine, that causes the release of norepinephrine and dopamine. This chemical is found when you are falling in love. It's responsible for the head-over-heels, elated part of love.

norepinephrine - When PEA causes this chemical to be released, you feel the effects in the form of sweaty palms and a pounding heart.

dopamine - Dopamine is a neurochemical that appears to be associated with mate selection. An Emory University study found that voles (a type of rodent) chose their mate based on dopamine release. When female voles were injected with dopamine in the presence of a male vole, they could select him from a group of voles later.

oxytocin - Dopamine triggers the release of oxytocin, which is sometimes called the 'cuddle hormone'. In both genders, oxytocin is released during touching. In women, oxytocin is released during labor and breast feeding.

testosterone - Though you might think of testosterone as a male hormone, both men and women produce it. Raw lust is accompanied by a surge in testosterone levels.

posted June 29, 2014 02:20 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hah! Nooooot here. But then it depends upon MARS. Mine's in 3H, 0° SAG. Granted, his is conjunct VENUS, but in the 2H. I'm not sure if that's going to be 'ready for action', either. Heh.

But as an Aries 8R, I can say that I don't relate to the spontaneity at all. And I have PRIAPUS there! And PALLAS. So maybe that's part of it.

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posted June 29, 2014 02:23 PM              

Thanks for the explanation on Aries 8th house

I can see how Mars/Saturn can bring the need you describe, for something tangible, plus Saturn "needs".

Saturn is also a test

posted June 29, 2014 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Jjj and Gabby,

is this not the feeling of being madly in love, the exhilarating kind, in a higher dose, associated with the famous love chemicals, especially PEA?

[b]When you say you and a romantic partner 'have chemistry' you're right! There is a lot of chemistry involved in feeling attachment, sweaty palms, butterflies in your stomach, etc. Have you ever wondered exactly what chemicals are involved in feeling love? Here's a look at some of the key biochemical players:

phenylethylamine or PEA - This is an amine that naturally occurs in the brain and also in some foods, such as chocolate. It is a stimulant, much like an amphetamine, that causes the release of norepinephrine and dopamine. This chemical is found when you are falling in love. It's responsible for the head-over-heels, elated part of love.

norepinephrine - When PEA causes this chemical to be released, you feel the effects in the form of sweaty palms and a pounding heart.

dopamine - Dopamine is a neurochemical that appears to be associated with mate selection. An Emory University study found that voles (a type of rodent) chose their mate based on dopamine release. When female voles were injected with dopamine in the presence of a male vole, they could select him from a group of voles later.

oxytocin - Dopamine triggers the release of oxytocin, which is sometimes called the 'cuddle hormone'. In both genders, oxytocin is released during touching. In women, oxytocin is released during labor and breast feeding.

testosterone - Though you might think of testosterone as a male hormone, both men and women produce it. Raw lust is accompanied by a surge in testosterone levels.

endorphins - Your brain acquires a tolerance to the love stimulants and starts to release endorphins. The honeymoon is over, chemically, around 18 months to 4 years into a relationship. However, this isn't all bad. Endorphins are associated with feelings of attachment and comfort. Endorphins are like opiates. They calm anxiety, relieve pain and reduce stress.[/B]

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I would assume so, at least to an extent!
I've felt that rush of excitement and endorphins making you feel like your floating before with other ppl. This isn't exactly like that.
With me, my Venus opposes my 7th house Chiron and my Dejanira conjuncts unaspected virgo Moon in 12th, my Juno and Child are also conjunct Dejanira and these are semi sextile my Venus.
Falling in love and all that excitement comes with huge fear, insecurity and eventually dread of what will come from all this. Falling in love is a struggle and I have to fight to stop from running from love, all those chemicals add to my fear, I feel they are the reason I will make bad decisions they make me feel out of control and scared instead of being able to enjoy the high.
Love makes me feel lost and out of control until I get past all those hormones and feel my head and logic are back.

posted June 29, 2014 03:10 PM              

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I would assume so, at least to an extent!
I've felt that rush of excitement and endorphins making you feel like your floating before with other ppl. This isn't exactly like that.
With me, my Venus opposes my 7th house Chiron and my Dejanira conjuncts unaspected virgo Moon in 12th, my Juno and Child are also conjunct Dejanira and these are semi sextile my Venus.
Falling in love and all that excitement comes with huge fear, insecurity and eventually dread of what will come from all this. Falling in love is a struggle and I have to fight to stop from running from love, all those chemicals add to my fear, I feel they are the reason I will make bad decisions they make me feel out of control and scared instead of being able to enjoy the high.
Love makes me feel lost and out of control until I get past all those hormones and feel my head and logic are back.

With him, my fears never kicked in, he made me feel calm and secure...I never felt out of control my head and heart worked together I feel I stayed in reality. When we were next to each other the excitement was intense and almost to much to handle, but the second we were apart a very soothing calm came over me...his energy made me feel secure and safe for the very 1st time.
I'm not really sure what to attribute that to?

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I've experienced this once. There's a pervading feeling everything is going to be alright, everything makes sense. I'm pretty sure it must be connected to one of the upper chakras, one way or the other.

I don't think it means the person is necessarily your TF, the way I see TF, but also I believe meeting your TF ( in theory) will include this feeling.

However this feeling might not be exclusively connected to meeting your TF. It could be connected to meeting a "brother" or "sister" (which happened in my case, I didn't realize it at first).

posted June 29, 2014 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It sounds interesting. As if the endorphins kicked in first

I've experienced this once. There's a pervading feeling everything is going to be alright, everything makes sense. I'm pretty sure it must be connected to one of the upper chakras, one way or the other.

I don't think it means the person is necessarily your TF, the way I see TF, but also I believe meeting your TF ( in theory) will include this feeling.

However this feeling might not be exclusively connected to meeting your TF. It could be connected to meeting a "brother" or "sister" (which happened in my case, I didn't realize it at first).

Kinda contradictory what I say, right?? (my Libra Mercury ? and they say something about retro?)[/B]

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My past lives have left me with fear of being hurt through love. Love has been the avenue that has led to my being hurt. Relationships, as shown by my aries Chiron in 7th opposed Venus, have been very painful for me as a theme in my lives.
Aries ruled by Mars, potentially shows physical violence from relationships being part of or creating my deepest fears.
In my opinion if your TF connects your soul, or is one and our souls are of the same energy, what I need would be what he is at his core so his energy would soothe my energy, I would assume.