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Topic: Twinflame vs. Unrequited Love
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 03:28 PM
 
Sensitive topic here... but I've been impressed and depressed lately by the rather numerous accounts of Twinflame stories connected to some unrequited love situation of sorts. My heart is with all these stories in a way that I can't describe properly in words  My mind wants to understand. To me, the Twinflame - which of course is an ideal concept - Twin + Flame or Twin + Soul is the other Yin or Yang half of your soul who completes you...completely. Your ideal alter ego. Your final partner, both similar and complementary. With him/her, perfect love can finally happen, and two become one, on all levels: physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. An entire journey spanning over many lifetimes comes to an end and a new beginning with him/her, this journey takes us there, to this meeting. They both reach the meeting in time. How can this imply unrequited? If Twinflames don't love each other mutually and mutually fulfilling, with the enthusiasm brought by reaching this ideal, then who's supposed to do it? What is above...or beyond? I'm reaching with these questions to you. Astrologically, maybe we can explore synastries/composites, trying to answer this question: what differentiates a potential Twinflame synastry from an unrequited love synastry?
Why is it Twinflame and not unrequited? Why is it unrequited, not Twinflame? I'm also reaching out to people who believe they are with their Twinflame in a mutually fulfilling love relationship: can you please share your synastry/composite with us?  Thoughts?? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted June 26, 2014 04:32 PM
Honestly I think there is much too much concepts and pressure put onto the term twinflames. And one of the difficulties certainly also lies in the vagueness of the term. Or actually the fact that there is no agreement on a definition about what twinflames actually are, what they do etc. Of course probably everyone talking about twinflames will think THEIR personal definition is the right one, and the others just can`t see the truth. But it still leaves us with a non-agreement on the term itself (or what it entails). And as long as this is so, how would we be able to define it astrologically, if we do not even know what it really is psychologically or soullogically? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted June 26, 2014 04:44 PM
Twinflames, karmic relationships...What else will people invent to make themselves feel better about their mess?------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted June 26, 2014 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Twinflames, karmic relationships...What else will people invent to make themselves feel better about their mess?
yes, or feel better about their unrequited love.
" he/she refuses to fulfill the karma from past life and does not want to enter the union out of fear".."he/she does not recognize his twin flame at this time"...
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I'm so cappy
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posted June 26, 2014 04:47 PM
"Mess" includes unrequited love ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 04:47 PM
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Honestly I think there is much too much concepts and pressure put onto the term twinflames.And one of the difficulties certainly also lies in the vagueness of the term. Or actually the fact that there is no agreement on a definition about what twinflames actually are, what they do etc. Of course probably everyone talking about twinflames will think THEIR personal definition is the right one, and the others just can`t see the truth. But it still leaves us with a non-agreement on the term itself (or what it entails). And as long as this is so, how would we be able to define it astrologically, if we do not even know what it really is psychologically or soullogically?
Well, I was trying to think about it logically.
Is it an ideal?..I think most people consider so. If it's an ideal, a final manifestation...isn't an ideal cathartic, a blessing, Nirvana? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Twinflames, karmic relationships...What else will people invent to make themselves feel better about their mess?
 Cappy and her sword... I think important relationships are always fated, yes, they are definitely part of our fate and our lessons about love. You don't believe relationships are karmic? And I don't even know if you believe in the Twinflame concept Do you? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
yes, or feel better about their unrequited love.
" he/she refuses to fulfill the karma from past life and does not want to enter the union out of fear".."he/she does not recognize his twin flame at this time"...
exactly...and this is the danger here...what is with this? isn't this "wishful thinking" or "consolation thinking" more than a valid theory? I mean...I bet there are people making money out of this, convincing others their story of unrequited love is in fact, a Twinflame story  IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted June 26, 2014 05:05 PM
Lee, I know your romantic Venus square Neptune wants it to be true really badly but I can't help but think that believing in this TF thing is a consequence of being lost in a thick Neptunian fog. quote:
I mean...I bet there are people making money out of this, convincing others their story of unrequited love is in fact, a Twinflame story
And yes, in some cases it's intentional mumbo jumbo.I don't believe in karma either, whether it's seen as punishment or some silly debts. I've said this before too, your memory sux  ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 05:12 PM
lol not necessarily karma as reward/punishment, but more like gradually learning together life after life until we become evolved, "round" souls. You don't believe in this either?I do believe in the Twinflame concept, yes 
It makes a lot of sense, it's one of the major cosmogonic concepts. Do you believe in myths? IP: Logged |
Tulipe
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posted June 26, 2014 05:18 PM
Twinflame, soulmates, karmic partners or whatever, as long as you're fulfilled by that person, it's more than enough. As for the mess-justifying, Cappy said it perfectly .------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
fulfilled
Oh yes, the magic word...to me, it rhymes with "twinflame" IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 05:27 PM
What about you, Tulipe, do you believe in the Twinflame concept?IP: Logged |
Tulipe
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posted June 26, 2014 05:32 PM
I have problems with that theory, I don't believe it could change humanity vibrations or something like that, like the new Jesus phenomenon.------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 05:37 PM
I have no idea what the "New Jesus" phenomenon is Something like an elite race within the general population? To me, the Twinflame concept is more about reuniting the two lovers, the purely romantic concept, than the impact it has on humanity which is, of curse, indirect. When two perfect lovers reunite (Cappy don't roll eyes) obviously, energetically, it is felt all around. They don't have to go out in the town agora to start a demonstration there IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted June 26, 2014 05:43 PM
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lol not necessarily karma as reward/punishment, but more like gradually learning together life after life until we become evolved, "round" souls. You don't believe in this either?
I don't think our existence is about becoming anything (And what makes you think you're not evolved and "round" yet? Do you realize this belief might be what keeps you trapped in the reincarnation cycle?), I think it's about experiencing. And while we exist and experience one could say we're becoming books for the Source to read. quote:
Do you believe in myths?
No, but I enjoy reading them quote:
When two perfect lovers reunite (Cappy don't roll eyes) obviously, energetically, it is felt all around. They don't have to go out in the town agora to start a demonstration there
*rolls her eyes*
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Selene
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posted June 26, 2014 05:47 PM
I think that the concept of twinflames is misinterpreted. For me, the term primary soulmate seems more appropriate. It doesn't say that this person has to be your romantic partner each and every lifetime but they are there - in many ways possible. Michael Newton used this concept and i tend to feel that it's true. I called for mine and he came into my life. IP: Logged |
Tulipe
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posted June 26, 2014 05:48 PM
You know I don't do perfect . I believe love and relationships can't be classified by a label. When you put a label it, you don't see the relationship as it is.------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 26, 2014 05:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I don't think our existence is about becoming anything (And what makes you think you're not evolved and "round" yet? Do you realize this belief might be what keeps you trapped in the reincarnation cycle?), I think it's about experiencing. And while we exist and experience one could say we're becoming books for the Source to read. [QUOTE]Do you believe in myths?
No, but I enjoy reading them quote:
When two perfect lovers reunite (Cappy don't roll eyes) obviously, energetically, it is felt all around. They don't have to go out in the town agora to start a demonstration there
*rolls her eyes*
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This: brilliant!
This: I don't think our existence is about becoming anything (And what makes you think you're not evolved and "round" yet? Do you realize this belief might be what keeps you trapped in the reincarnation cycle?), I think it's about experiencing. And while we exist and experience one could say we're becoming books for the Source to read.  you nailed it! I's in my quote book now 
TO BE CONTINUED....Good Night, Ladies!
And may the Twinflame be with you!
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I'm so cappy
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posted June 26, 2014 05:51 PM
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you nailed it! I's in my quote book now
This will be 15 bucks ^^ Good night :*
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Tulipe
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posted June 26, 2014 05:56 PM
Cappy should write an essay on this Good night ladies! Sweet Twinflame debating dreams!
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amelia28
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posted June 26, 2014 06:41 PM
Great discussion everyone, I see both sides....sometimes I am atheist and sometimes I belief in reincarnation...I go back and forth....must be my sun in Virgo opposite moon in pisces.I don't know if I belief in twin flames, I am open to it but not close to feeling convinced. I am convinced in astrology been able to show when two people have strong chemistry and why relationships end or don't work out.. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted June 26, 2014 06:46 PM
I do think Neptune inst just about deception or illusion. Neptune exists for a reason, there are two sides to it. It's Neptune that makes us think there is a higher purpose...that makes us feel that there is more than it seems and meets the eye so I think that could mean there is something we don't see or know; more than meets the eye. I just don't know what that something more is but humans have definitely come up with a lot of theories. IP: Logged |
Wild Horses
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posted June 26, 2014 09:26 PM
Thank you, LeeLoo, for starting this thread. This topic really does twist my head into a pretzel. I'm hoping reading what you guys think about it can help me to sort out some of it.The gist of my conundrum is that I can see all the sides and viewpoints, and I agree with a lot of what you all have already said. I, too, seem to have a problem feeling comfortable with the label of "twin flame" because there is just so much variance on what the term even means. I just feel hinky using that term. Can a relationship be platonic and friendship based and still be considered a twin flame relationship, or does it only apply to romantic relationships?
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mir
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posted June 26, 2014 10:20 PM
As a survivor, or firm ex TF believer (20 years ago) I can only associate the concept with a very childish or infantile phase of my life. A justification for certain behavior is easily made when you 'belong together'. As already mentioned, Lack of reality, that's the only true vibe I get with it. Neptune?IP: Logged |
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