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GeminiKarat
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posted November 19, 2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The Hourglass comparison is indeed inspired, IMO. The Yod points to a major, fated, turning point event in one's life, a mission and time is a key factor in Yods.

Thank you for the info, GK!


You are absolutely right about time and mission. There is not much information out there on the yod. I am working on the time. The time of the trigger point is my personal focal point on my research.

The person with a yod is an old soul and knows many things from the past. Therefore the time of the trigger point has to be seen easily. I do not see it, but I see a tendency.
Do you know the oldest way to predict events? Horary is the oldest one I know.
Do you know the predictive tool from the Mayan? I do not know one.
My personal time key factors I think about:
Saturn return and Jupiter return is one.
I do like the age harmonics that Ceridwen brought up one time.
The transits I do focus on are Pluto, Uranus and Neptune.
I do not like progressions and Solar return in this case.

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posted January 01, 2015 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about transiting NN + saturn return as trigger point ?

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posted January 01, 2015 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:

The transits I do focus on are Pluto, Uranus and Neptune.

Interesting point. The way I see it, at least three of the 4 legs need to be activated. I'm thinking faster objects might be transiting there when it's a specific, short, sudden event, with a deadline. And slower planets when we're talking about a certain period, like for example - a negative example - imprisonment.

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posted January 01, 2015 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
What about transiting NN + saturn return as trigger point ?

Thank you very much for your input. I do believe that the saturn return changed my live. It is interesting that you mention NN. It is @0°03´ Aries in the age harmonics, as well as Uranus @0°33´.

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posted January 01, 2015 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Interesting point. The way I see it, at least three of the 4 legs need to be activated. I'm thinking faster objects might be transiting there when it's a specific, short, sudden event, with a deadline. And slower planets when we're talking about a certain period, like for example - a negative example - imprisonment.



You are right. I do have a surfboard to ride the small waves. I have found out that the eclipses - lunar and solar - are quite telling in my chart. I will do a little bit of research about the legs. This is an interesting point.

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posted January 01, 2015 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Activating 3 points with transiting planets or nodes, how far of can the degrees be? How exact does it have to be for it to be a trigger?

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posted January 01, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
Activating 3 points with transiting planets or nodes, how far of can the degrees be? How exact does it have to be for it to be a trigger?

3 before, 3 after...degrees. There is a preparation of the event, the event itself, the aftermath.

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posted January 01, 2015 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
3 before, 3 after...degrees. There is a preparation of the event, the event itself, the aftermath.


This will happen around 27 october 2015:

Are the transits close enough? What would it mean considering the planets/angles involved..

Left point: transit NN 0.41 degrees apart from conjunct my sun
Middle pount: transit Sun 0.13 degrees apart from conjunct my ASC
Right point: transit Saturn 1.31 degrees apart from conjunct my saturn
Apex: transit Moon 6.00 degrees apart from conjunct my DSC

The synastry Yod consists of:

Apex: his sun (6.50), mercury (6.16), mars (1.25), my DSC (3.01) taurus

Left: his jupiter (1.49), saturn (4.13) my sun (1.59) libra

Right: my saturn (4.57) saggitarius

Middle: my ASC (3.01), pluto (5.55) scorpio

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posted January 01, 2015 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about this..
In the composite chart with the my new friend/music partner who has a girlfriend..

A Yod with BML Lilith as the apex, quincunx Venus and Neptune/Eros?

Or how about.. the Pluto Yod quincunx Moon and Eris in 7H?

Not sure how much these count because of the asteroids.. But they are there and within 1 deg.

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posted January 01, 2015 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And in synastry..
My Pluto/his Mercury as apex, inconjunct His BML/Vertex and my Moon.

Or.. his BML/Vertex as apex, inconjunct my Uranus and Pluto/his Mercury.

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posted January 02, 2015 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
This will happen around 27 october 2015:

Are the transits close enough? What would it mean considering the planets/angles involved..

Left point: transit NN 0.41 degrees apart from conjunct my sun
Middle pount: transit Sun 0.13 degrees apart from conjunct my ASC
Right point: transit Saturn 1.31 degrees apart from conjunct my saturn
Apex: transit Moon 6.00 degrees apart from conjunct my DSC

The synastry Yod consists of:

Apex: his sun (6.50), mercury (6.16), mars (1.25), my DSC (3.01) taurus

Left: his jupiter (1.49), saturn (4.13) my sun (1.59) libra

Right: my saturn (4.57) saggitarius

Middle: my ASC (3.01), pluto (5.55) scorpio


You're REALLY overcomplicating it, lisalisa. Keep it simple.

It's your SATURN sextile his SATURN quincunx his SUN. That's it. Just focus there.

And whatever the event is, it will bring out fears and insecurities, shedding light upon emotional baggage left over from your relationships with your fathers.

If you're looking for a trigger, I'd limit it to whatever might hit his SUN within 3º.

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posted January 02, 2015 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You're REALLY overcomplicating it, lisalisa. Keep it simple.

It's your SATURN sextile his SATURN quincunx his SUN. That's it. Just focus there.

And whatever the event is, it will bring out fears and insecurities, shedding light upon emotional baggage left over from your relationships with your fathers.

If you're looking for a trigger, I'd limit it to whatever might hit his SUN within 3º.


I thought it was saturn-saturn quincunx his mars my dsc..

He has yod natally too only no release point in the middle, my ascendant is the releasepoint in the synastry

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posted January 02, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
I thought it was saturn-saturn quincunx his mars my dsc..

He has yod natally too only no release point in the middle, my ascendant is the releasepoint in the synastry


I don't count the DSC as a fulcrum point. That's one part of an axis. It's not quite a traditional release point, as is a planet.

I'll check on MARS again, but I thought that wasn't nearly as close as his SUN.

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posted January 02, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I don't count the DSC as a fulcrum point. That's one part of an axis. It's not quite a traditional release point, as is a planet.

I'll check on MARS again, but I thought that wasn't nearly as close as his SUN.


I read that the apex isnt the release point, but the point between the sextile, so opposing the apex.. ?

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posted January 02, 2015 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sis, I must tell you I see the quincunx as an Uranian aspect, I'm not sure it builds, but it releases.
In the Yod, I think it's the sextile which builds, in time, makes the preparation for the release provided by the quincunxes and the opposition.


So, assuming that a composite BML yod is valid:
The sextile between Venus and Neptune/Eros builds up romantic / sexual feelings and confusion over time,
and then... is eventually released by BML, which represents taboos, temptation, rebellion, rejection, power struggles.

Do you think our relationship is doomed then? The story is: we are friends, there is attraction, and he has a girlfriend. I really value our friendship.. but is this really how it will play out? I don't want to lose him and I feel he is already struggling with it..

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posted January 02, 2015 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
And in synastry..
My Pluto/his Mercury as apex, inconjunct His BML/Vertex and my Moon.

Or.. his BML/Vertex as apex, inconjunct my Uranus and Pluto/his Mercury.


I'll try these too. So if they are valid yods:

#1) Emotions become intertwined with Lilith themes and build up over time. They are released through intense discussions on both of our parts, with me possibly being more of a controlling or transformative force, and him possibly being more of an objective, logical force. The Pluto/Mercury apex is in my 4th and his 1st, so it will have an effect on my sense of emotional security, and on his sense of identity?

Activator = my BML opposite the apex, in his 7th house/ my 10th, (conjunct Algol! )

#2) Unique, liberating, deep and probing conversations build up energy that is eventually released in a Lilith manner. The apex is in his 8th house and in my 11th house, so it will affect his sexuality, finances or death, and my sense of friendship and kinship.

Also, I suppose my Sun/Mercury and his Uranus COULD be the 'activator,' but the orb is 5 degrees opposite the apex.

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posted January 02, 2015 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
So, assuming that a composite BML yod is valid:
The sextile between Venus and Neptune/Eros builds up romantic / sexual feelings and confusion over time,
and then... is eventually released by BML, which represents taboos, temptation, rebellion, rejection, power struggles.

Do you think our relationship is doomed then? The story is: we are friends, there is attraction, and he has a girlfriend. I really value our friendship.. but is this really how it will play out? I don't want to lose him and I feel he is already struggling with it..


He has a girlfriend why do you want a commited man?!?

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posted January 02, 2015 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
He has a girlfriend why do you want a commited man?!?

No no, we are friends and music partners, I DON'T want to play that role in his life. I value our connection too much, and the 'other woman' game is so fleeting and not the purpose of this connection as I see it..
I don't want to lose him as a friend! But I see these energies staring at me in the face

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posted January 02, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
No no, we are friends and music partners, I DON'T want to play that role in his life. I value our connection too much, and the 'other woman' game is so fleeting and not the purpose of this connection as I see it..
I don't want to lose him as a friend! But I see these energies staring at me in the face

Then you should probably make that clear to him one way or another

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posted January 02, 2015 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
Then you should probably make that clear to him one way or another

Yeah.. I will if it comes up. But you know what, it might not even ever be necessary. We have such a psychic connection that I think we both know the real reasons for our relationship. It just takes adjustments, which is a quincunx thing anyway. I'm just worrying too much.
Thanks Needed some clarity

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posted January 02, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Yeah.. I will if it comes up. But you know what, it might not even ever be necessary. We have such a psychic connection that I think we both know the real reasons for our relationship. It just takes adjustments, which is a quincunx thing anyway. I'm just worrying too much.
Thanks Needed some clarity

Uhhhhhh, no. Make it clear.

Trust me. I speak from some rough experience. Make. It. Clear.

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posted June 12, 2015 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for k8362     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to figure out how to interpret this yod in my first meeting chart. Any thoughts? Uranus may be in 1st, and Saturn may be in 8th. I don't have the exact time, and just a shift of ten minutes moves both planets into the next house.

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