posted July 18, 2014 02:45 PM            

Can't you post the additional tables of the progressed helio composite? + those of the helio synastry? Or nothing to see there?

posted July 18, 2014 03:21 PM              

that is the natal helio

posted July 18, 2014 03:21 PM              

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Originally posted by mir:
Same as the others? Via photobucket?

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no, photobucket does not upload pdf

posted July 18, 2014 03:26 PM              

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To get it here I had to:

1. save the pdf onto my desktop

2. open the pdf and make a snapshot of the image

3. open my paint program, paste the snapshot in here

4. save it (via paint) under jpg.

And only THEN I could upload it onto photobucket.

posted July 18, 2014 03:31 PM              

pr h Venus 22.41 Pisces
conjunct
n h Jupiter 22.15 PIsces;
trine
n h Mars 22.07 Scorpio

posted July 19, 2014 11:29 AM            

HELIO PROGRESSED-TO-PROGRESSED.

His pVenus square your pEarth/Moon, at 2 appl. in aug. 2018.

But at that time in the progressed Compo:
- Venus is almost exactly opp. Mars (0'20 appl.)
- Juno almost exactly conjunct Jupiter (1'03 appl.) and both opposite Neptune (appl.)

In may 2022 Juno/Jupiter ^ will reach its peak (= exact), still both appl. to Neptune by 0'09.
The pVenus will then be separating by 0'18/0'09 From the square to his pEarth/Moon.

Your pVenus in may 2022 is then on its way for a trine to his pEarth/Moon by 5*.
^ Peak may 2031 - then in the Progressed compo Venus in an appl. opp. to Uranus (1'47)

HELIO PROGRESSED-TO-NATAL.

Currently;

Your pVenus: 22'40 Pisces.
His nEarth/Moon: 25'49/'56 Gem.

posted July 19, 2014 02:58 PM            

Orange 2nd guy;

July 2005;

Well, the only thing that stood out in their GEO-progressions;

His pMars in a separating parallel from her nVenus (0'12)
His retro pVenus in an applying contra-parallel to her nMars (0'28)

(peak of the latter, May 2007 - so a verry slow mover).

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Geo progressed Compo; Venus conjunct Jupiter (appl. by 0'20) - still
applying by 0'10 in July 2008.
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HELIO;

OK, NOW I'm completely FLABBERGASTED...why?

Well, with the first guy Orange had a pretty tight DW Venus/Mars sextile there.
Which resulted in a Compo Venus/Mars opposition (by 1)

With, the 2nd guy... Orange had a pretty tight DW Venus/Mars TRINE!
Which resulted in a Compo Venus/Mars opposition (by 1)

Unbelievable!

(both guys have in their natal-helio a Venus/Mars quincunx, like Orange herself)

But Let's go on with the subject of today; the 2nd guy.

Just mentioning this in case you survived.. (it's related ^ to that DW V/M trine);

In april 2008 Orange's pVenus was in an appl. opposition to his nMars (by 2*),
AND in an appl. sextile to her nVenus.

(the peak of your pVenus opp. his nMars ^ ^, July 2009)

AND.. (really worth mentioning) in april 2008;

HIS pVenus in an applying sextile to your nMars (0'42) AND in a separating (4 minutes)
sextile from his own nVenus.

Orange, now I'm curious, did you survive this ^ ^ ?

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Progressed Helio Compo july 2005; Juno opposite Jupiter appl. by 0'49
peak; March 2008)
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posted July 19, 2014 03:41 PM              

Anyway Leeloo and me were talking about Yods in the other thread; so I guess I was bound to notice that in our progressed synastry (helio) there are two Yods with Venus and Mars forming, one on the basis of a natal Yod, but the natal one is formed with my Pluto, so rather generational.

I mean these here:

1)
his helio n Mars 5.55 Leo
his helio n Venus 6.54 Pisces

my helio p Pluto 7.29 Libra
my helio n Pluto 7.13 Libra

my helio p Earth 6.16 Leo

so basically that means that my helio Earth has progressed to his helio Mars, activating this Yod, and making a quinkunx ot his n Venus.

my p Earth conj. his n Mars 0.21 s
my p EArth quinkunx his n Venus 0.38 a

2) a Boomerang Yod, unfortunately with Saturn *sighs*

his helio p Mars 21.16 Leo
his helio p Pluto 19.51 Libra

my helio n Jupiter 22.15 Pisces
my helio p Venus 22.41 Pisces

his helio p Saturn 21.53 Virgo

so
his helio p Mars quinkunx my helio n Venus as well (1.25 a).

Maybe that is why slowly an opposition between Venus and Mars are building up in the progressed helio composite?

So Leeloo, what do you think? Are we fated to... you know what?
Though with Saturn and Pluto being part of the brew, why do I keep seeing handcuffs and ropes in front of my inner eye?

posted July 19, 2014 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
.. but I don't want to exclude Helio and the progressed Composite (u know how inextricably connected those are) .. I would miss half of it! I want to see everything!

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Great insight....I have been getting more into progressions lately but I never really focused on it a lot bc I wasn't aware of how important they can be ...

I just checked my helio progressed composite with my husband and our earth/moon conjuncts exact my natal juno. In addition, my progressed tropic geo moon conjuncts exact my natal juno.

Helio P Composite:
earth/moon Taurus 5 degrees

GT P Natal:
Moon Taurus 5 degrees
Juno Taurus 0 degrees

GT Natal:
Juno Taurus 5 degrees

It gets more interesting..

When we got engaged our helio progressed composite earth/moon was at Taurus 0 degrees opposing Venus in Cancer at 0 degrees and all this was aspecting GT Progress natal Juno In Taurus at 1 degree.

posted July 19, 2014 04:47 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Though with Saturn and Pluto being part of the brew, why do I keep seeing handcuffs and ropes in front of my inner eye?

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hehe if this is your inspiration...

The best way to read these Yods is through rulership (well, any Yod in fact). Of course, the specific planetary energy counts too, but I would look in the natal chart to see what these planets rule, especially the apex. You would know where the trigger comes from...if Saturn rules the 5th, then ...

And what is the release, the primary result? (if there's nothing there in helio, look at the natal point superposed on the release - the house, if there's no planet there)

Some Yods are house Yods, they impact a house rather than a planet.

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posted July 19, 2014 04:55 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
hehe if this is your inspiration...

The best way to read these Yods is through rulership (well, any Yod in fact). Of course, the specific planetary energy counts too, but I would look in the natal chart to see what these planets rule, especially the apex. You would know where the trigger comes from...if Saturn rules the 5th, then ...

And what is the release, the primary result? (if there's nothing there in helio, look at the natal point superposed on the release - the house, if there's no planet there)

Some Yods are house Yods, they impact a house rather than a planet.

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Leeloo,
what would the release point be, the midpoint of the sextiles?

Saturn rules his 11th house and sits on his DESC in geo.

posted July 19, 2014 05:04 PM              

(interestingly our helio composite Rudra-Kaali-conjunction falls onto 7 Virgo. lol)

There is nothing ther ein helio syn.

My geo Lilith (ast) is on 6 Virgo though, and it is close to composite (geo) Kaali on 9 Vg.

Well not too impressive I suppose.

It falls into my 9th and his 6th house; composite 7th house.

2) the second Yod
Release point about 20 Virgo I suppose
conjunct his helio Saturn

(it is on my Camelot. lol, tropical natal).

posted July 19, 2014 05:06 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So that's a good sign (his Saturn). The release point is the so called Boomerang leg (I don't quite like the term Boomerang that's why I don't use it) - the opp to the apex and, yes, this means the sextile mdp. But the energy comes from the apex, "hugs" the whole area, like a flashlight beam radius, in that house/houses. Of course, the focal point of the beam is actually the opposition to the apex.- - that's the release point - it is the primary result of the Yod, than it reflects back to the apex through the power of the opposition and a dance of back-and-forth starts.

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thank you for the explanation. I need to process it a little.

So it is a back-and-forth between his Saturn and my Jupiter and for a while my Venus?

posted July 19, 2014 05:12 PM              

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Originally posted by mir:
Ceri, your helio progressed Venus/Mars opposition will take place at the moment that you both have an exact pVenus/pMars SQUINE, something about the squine (105 deg);
http://tribes.tribe.net/astrologynow/thread/8ec4be5d-d204-4859-9dba-e33222d224d4

..and at that moment you will have an exact Venus/Mars DW BI-quintile (144 deg)!

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Mir,

the squine rings a bell, vaguely, distantly. 24th harmonic right?

Personally I ADORE the 5th harmonic aspects, also our comparision seems to have quite a few quintiles/ biquintiles, but a DW Venus/mars-one, that sounds relaly nice.

To be honest, just personally for myself, I seem to feel the quintile stronger than the sextile.
Or actually that is not true, it is just different. The sextile to me feels more steady, stable, calmer, while the quintile has this swing or little spring in its step.
So yeah, Venus/M;ars-biquintile I gladly take it.

When does it come into action again?

BTW Paul Westran`s report mentioned that we have a Sun-Venus-quintile in the progressions currently, and I like that as well.

but then again I also like the fact that my pr Venus is in applying quindecile to his n Mars and after that fades, it will - after a pause - apply to a quindecile to his pr Mars. Mayb ethat is where the insanity comes from. lol

posted July 19, 2014 05:37 PM            

Well, ACTION at the turn of the year 2016-2017 (by 2 deg then)

posted July 19, 2014 05:47 PM            

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When we got engaged our helio progressed composite earth/moon was at Taurus 0 degrees opposing Venus in Cancer at 0 degrees and all this was aspecting GT Progress natal Juno In Taurus at 1 degree.

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Amelia, do you mean a sextile or Venus in Scorpio opposing it?

posted July 19, 2014 11:28 PM            

In Geo, his pVenus conjunct my pMars by 1 appl.
In Helio, his pVenus conjunct my pMars by 1 appl.

I didn't even know that something like that at-first-sight could exist.. well, I think also the mutuality made it special, double your pleasure, double your fun. No hidden motives.

posted July 20, 2014 05:52 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
thank you for the explanation. I need to process it a little.

So it is a back-and-forth between his Saturn and my Jupiter and for a while my Venus?

Funnily in our tropical composite we have a Golden Yod consisting of Jupiter quintile Saturn and both biquintile Venus. lol

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There's your connection, Ceri. And because the other Yod releases in your 7th composite, both Yods lead to your tropical composite, which is neat. Lovely Golden Yod. What do Jupiter and Saturn mean in your composite, what do they rule?

Of course, a quincunx Yod is perhaps different than a Golden Yod, I mean I don't know yet if Golden Yods have a fated meaning in the sense of pointing to an event; or they are a magical connective structure pointing to a creative, extraordinary connection. But I think it is lovely how the helio Yods lead you to your composite Golden Yod.

But being helio, which is a higher dimension, I'm thinking helio fated structures incarnating into a composite Golden Yod is very nice.
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