posted February 15, 2015 04:09 PM              

quote:

---

Originally posted by Enneline:
yes, could also be my aries moon (feelings, emotions) but mars is the sex drive and gemini doesn't help to keep one interested

The good points: i am very good in debates, i can express myself in written from more than excellent I think (in my mother tongue), i can do several things at one time (but I am a woman) and I am quick both mentally and physically

---

Thank you, great description I was talking about Mars/Neptune...don't you think it's probably the most creative aspect in your chart, Gem Mars opp Sag Neptune, giving you the ability to write way above average, among other things?

------------------

posted February 15, 2015 04:18 PM              

quote:

---

Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you, great description I was talking about Mars/Neptune...don't you think it's probably the most creative aspect in your chart, Gem Mars opp Sag Neptune, giving you the ability to write way above average, among other things?

---

yes, since mars is in gemini and gemini is ruled by mercury; also, neptune (creativity, dreams, illusions) is in the 5th house, the house of creativity.

posted February 15, 2015 04:44 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

That's a weird thing to say, really Neptune: art and creativity, imagination, unconditional love, spirituality, inspiration, faith, healing, ideals, invisible, psychic, soulmates, ocean of feelings, fantasy, fairy tales, magic, illusion (why does creating illusions have to be something bad? it's part of any artistic or seductive attempt), being high, orgasm, music, dreams, gentleness, tantra, poetry, beauty, seeing inner beauty, beautifying reality (deception goes here as well, but for those who practice lying), sacrifice, cleansing, dissolving materiality, anti-matter, rejecting materialism, neverending etc etc This is what Neptune brings in relationships.

It's strange that whenever a Neptune thread is started, people immediate think deception, lies, disappointment. It's kind of weird, actually.

---

posted February 15, 2015 05:18 PM              

quote:

---

Originally posted by ueharaa:
I meant to say that neptune is good only paired with VENUS not neptune. But yes I agree I had this view on neptune before. I thought it is such a beautiful planet and all you cited are associated with it. But being a sun conjunct neptune and having had my neptune square another's sun by 0° I have to admit that it brings on more challenge than one would expect. Neptune is great for art and dreams but it is so difficult to integrate it to reality. Most of the time in synastry the neptune person sees beyond the facts if I may say so. The interaction takes on an otherworldly quality for one of them that can have its advantages but most often ends up disappointing because it is much harder to leave up to neptune's idea of you than it is with saturn for example.
I think it is one of those planets that needs to be balanced in synastry and I am sure people who have natal neptune aspect certainly have an easier time handling them.

---

You are right in describing the BAD side But I was just hoping to get descriptions about the good and in fact amazing side of Neptune aspects, being the planet of magic, glamour, fairy tale, soulmates etc etc I won't start again

So what happened when your Sun/Neptune was squared by someone else's Sun, what was the bad thing that happened?

I'm a Venus sq Neptune (0) BTW. I know about the "illusion", but personally, I cherish it a lot, looking retrospectively. These aspects with Neptune give addiction to ideals and fairy tales and even if it's clear from the beginning the other is simply NOT a prince, the Neptunian prefers the dream to reality. It's a personal (bad) choice, it's not the other's fault, it's not him the deceiver.

Once you follow your intuition and get rid of false dreams, good Neptune shows itself. As I was saying, I cherish Neptune's magic and dreamy illusionary quality a lot. It shows my permanent connection to the otherwordly (as you said), especially in love (and arts); some people belong to this world of mine, others don't...with time, you learn how to distinguish them, it's a lesson you learn in early youth, you can't possibly know this from the beginning, when very young or a child, it is normal to believe life is magical. No one can take this away from me actually; a few bad apples don't spoil the orchard. On the other hand, I have to become worthy of my Neptune aspect myself, walk the talk: how much true magic do I bring in the life of others? As much as I get in return.

So tell me about your experience with Sun/Neptune sq Sun

------------------

posted February 15, 2015 05:29 PM              

Mars/Neptune Aspects

in Planet Combinations • 118 Comments
30

Quest Love with headphonesPutting energy into dance. Putting energy into the spiritual. Putting energy into meditation. Passive energy. Getting your groove on. Slow jams. Glamoring. Dazzling. Magicians. Sorcerers. Jedis. “These are not the droids you’re looking for.” Disappearing acts. Slipping in and out of roles. Con artists. Smooth operators. Soul men. Sex magic. Seduction. Ineffectual. Futile efforts. Sleazy actions. A weak father. Feeling that the men in your life are unreliable, weak or simply not around. No strong men in your life. Confusion about masculinity. The Sensitive Man. Spiritual men. Men who transcend the normal ideas of what it means to be masculine. Disillusioned with men. Feeling let down by men. Disappointed by people’s actions. Feeling that nothing you do matters. War of ideals. Compassionate action. Acting with sensitivity. Weak willed. Pushovers. Wafflers. Asserting your ideal visions. Acting on ideals. Championing the underdog. Spiritually competitive. Musically competitive. Poetry competitions. Asserting your imagination. The courage to let go.

The courage to act on behalf of a higher power. Using energy for a higher cause. Actions that serve a higher purpose. Sexuality that serves a higher power. Spiritual sexuality. Idealizing the sexual experience. Idealizing passion. Passionate about ideals. Wanting to physically merge. Physical surrender. Surrendering to your physical impulses, for better or worse. A drive that knows no limits. Having no boundaries surrounding what you will or will not do. Weak physical boundaries. Inability to say no. Acting like a martyr. Self-sacrificing. Spiritual energy. Refined, delicate energy. Actions that are dictated by other realms and otherworldly experiences. Spaced out. Asserting yourself in a chaotic manner. Unfocused energy. Diffused, permeable energy. Selfless efforts. Having no idea what to do next. Difficulty accessing personal will power. Difficulty acting on your own behalf. Putting yourself last.

Acute physical sensitivity. Dulling your senses as a way to cope with anger. Using drugs, alcohol, sex…or anything really to drift out of reality rather than deal with anger. Daydreaming as a response to anger. Spacing out to cope with anger. Finding a spiritual path that helps you release anger. Releasing energy through imaginative, dream-like experiences. Releasing energy through meditation. Active meditation. Active dreamers. Acting like a flake. Film actors. Magnetic sexuality. Conveying a sexual presence on film. The ability to mesmerize. Finding an outlet for anger through acting, dancing or music. Dancing your ass off. Competitive dancing. Violent dreams. Delusional behavior. Ecstatic dance. Moving energy in imperceptible ways. Dealing with forces that other people have trouble seeing or recognizing. Psychic energy. Reiki. Tai chi. Subtle force. Acting on dreams. Unrealistic approach. Indistinct sense of direction. Impatience that dissolves. Energy that dissolves. Force that dissolves. Courage that dissolves. Transcendental energy. Avoidance. Escape. Drifters. Grifters. Passionate poets. Melting sexuality. Pervasive lust. Fighting ghosts. Fighting addiction. Sexual fantasy.
People with Mars/Neptune aspects

David Blaine: Mars sextile Neptune
Bill O'Reilly: Mars quintile Neptune
Stephen Moyer of TrueBlood: Mars semisquare Neptune
Pam Grier: Mars biquintile Neptune
Alec Guinness (Obi Wan Kenobi): Mars conjunct Neptune (Mars is his chart ruler as well as the dispositor of his Sun and Venus in Aries)
http://astrofix.net/2010/11/06/marsneptune-aspects/#.VOEdg-GJ2M8

------------------

posted February 16, 2015 03:34 AM              

quote:

---

Originally posted by Faith:
Ugh, so much harsh reality in that reading!

Give Me Back My Dreams

---

jk I can cope....

---

posted February 16, 2015 03:50 AM              

quote:

---

Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
Like Faith and Enneline, my Mars is also in Gemini. I have two close friends and one family member a few years older than me who I have this aspect with. In all 3 relationships their Mars squares my Neptune and my Mars opposes their Neptune within at least 3 degrees. All 3 are men - I am female I have had some VERY steamy and intense moments with my one...friend (Mars/Neptune aspects <0.5 degrees) The other two are strictly platonic.

Obviously because of other aspects my relationships with these 3 men are very different. However, I do notice the Neptune/Mars influence in all 3. It's especially interesting because we have it both ways - I will say I think a female Neptune and male Mars is much easier to handle than the opposite, even in a square. I'm inclined to say this because it seems easier for the men to resort to Neptune's negative side (at least the three I know) when faced with any discomfort from my Mars.

It's a really intense aspect to have, imo. Especially in a romantic relationship. I agree with LeeLoo2014 though - I think it can be really beautiful and amazing. Even the square. I'm not one to shy away from Neptune contacts though - obviously.

---

YES!! You're my girl.

Very interesting thing to say about men handling a woman's Mars, that's a great idea for another topic for a more in depth exploration. Mars/Neptune is definitely on the list of potentially very romantic and erotic aspects. It's interesting what you said about its platonic values. I suppose this happens when Mars gets "diluted" by Neptune or if Mars is given a "higher love" connotation, as described in the above article or a feeling of seeing sex as something "dirty" or too crude with that particular person. This is one possible manifestation of this aspect. I actually know a couple with his Mars conj her Neptune and he has felt this from the beginning with her, no physical attraction in the more steamy, purely physical sense, more like: "she is something sacred, touching her would be almost like blasphemy" or " I only feel something gentle and otherworldly about her" ugh I'm not sure if I managed to describe properly, but hopefully you got the picture.

posted March 27, 2015 06:55 AM            

Though I was only ever addicted to one person.[/QUOTE

I had that with my ex-husband. he fantasized about me. i lost sexual interest very early, but i sometimes mislead him. i have this one with someone now, but i have not lost interest.. well there is a strong plutonian theme here..

posted March 27, 2015 07:00 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nine:
Haven't heard anything about lies and deception. Neptune is no softy, if Mars becomes too much Neptune will simply blow smoke in his eyes. Agree to everything/like Pisces, then proceed to do whatever they want.

Mars wants to assert the ego. Neptune wants to dissolve the ego.

If Neptune has a lot of feminine planets, she will simply become a burden/sick/helpless to mars until he gives in. If Neptune has a lot of masculine planets, she will simply do what she wants and lie about it.

---

i am neptune and i have lot of feminine planets.. that is true.. i got sick many times when married and after separated many 'symptoms' disappeared.. since i met this new person i have had an accident, back pain and lost my job.. these in the period of 3 months.. in both situations they have been supportive, but i think that it is a burden..

posted March 11, 2017 10:56 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

That's a weird thing to say, really Neptune: art and creativity, imagination, unconditional love, spirituality, inspiration, faith, healing, ideals, invisible, psychic, soulmates, ocean of feelings, fantasy, fairy tales, magic, illusion (why does creating illusions have to be something bad? it's part of any artistic or seductive attempt), being high, orgasm, music, dreams, gentleness, tantra, poetry, beauty, seeing inner beauty, beautifying reality (deception goes here as well, but for those who practice lying), sacrifice, cleansing, dissolving materiality, anti-matter, rejecting materialism, neverending etc etc This is what Neptune brings in relationships.

It's strange that whenever a Neptune thread is started, people immediate think deception, lies, disappointment. It's kind of weird, actually.

---

posted December 13, 2017 11:35 AM            

https://starscopestoday.wordpress.com/tag/mars-opposite-neptune-synastry/

" Mars-Neptune Aspects in Synastry

In Astrology, Mars represents sex and aggression, while Neptune represents illusions, dreams, and fantasy. When your Mars aspects another person’s Neptune, or vice-versa, a romantic bond is indicated.

In the case of the conjunction, square, or opposition, fantasy and romance permeates your relationship. The Neptune person is likely to see the Mars person as a knight in shining armor or protector. Indeed, Neptune admires Mars’ decisiveness, assertiveness, and toughness. Even if the Mars person is none of these things, the Neptune person will idealize the Mars person as though they were courageous and brave.

This aspect also indicates a sexual connection. The two of you fulfill each other’s sexual fantasies, and may even become addicted to one another! The Neptune person longs to be dominated by the Mars person, and is not afraid to be vulnerable around the Mars person. The Mars person is pleased with this role, as he feels more powerful in the presence of the Neptune person. The Neptune person may even become envious of the Mars person’s power and sexual prowess.

Neptune is likely to be dependent on the Mars person, which may provoke Neptune to manipulate the Mars person out of fear of losing him. The Mars person’s strength and sexual attractiveness may make the Neptune person nervous, so she may display evasive or confusing behavior which may confuse or frustrate the Mars person. Or, the Neptune person may try to gain Mars’ sympathy by playing the victim. Neptune may even resort to deceit, or sexually “teasing” Mars to keep his attention. This can lead to much frustration on the part of the Mars person; Mars is direct and open, so Neptune’s evasiveness, deceit, and dishonesty could lead to conflict and frustration on the part of the Mars person.

In the case of the trine and sextile between one person’s Mars and another person’s Neptune, fascination with one another is strong. The Neptune person idealizes the Mars person’s strength and sexual charisma, while the Mars person feels powerful and confident in the presence of the Neptune person. Together, the two of you work to fulfill each other’s sexual fantasies. The Mars person helps make Neptune’s dreams a reality. All in all, this is a very sweet aspect."

and the page from Linda's Soul Unions:

https://starsmoonandsun.com/tag/neptune-opposite-venus/

posted December 21, 2017 08:13 PM            

BUT, the person has it in his NATAL too. As my Aries part likes everything honest and straightforward, if in the relationship I probably will be very aware of this aspect.

Mars/Neptune hard aspect, the tendency to deceit is strong in them, sometimes they can't control it. Mars is action, so it is true that their actions can be sometimes split into deceit and they see it as no wrong as they have their own imagination to their actions.

Most of the time they appear gentle, but, again, my Aries can't stand dishonesty or deceit. They sometimes can use their gentleness to DO lies or manipulation (can be very secretive with their DOING (mars) also, usually the type who can be very easily do something behind your back without you knowing they hide something as they can appear caring, gentle, soft, etc).

posted January 02, 2018 04:04 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I don't know. My personal experience in the synastry, it is bad: Mars Opposite Neptune.

BUT, the person has it in his NATAL too. As my Aries part likes everything honest and straightforward, if in the relationship I probably will be very aware of this aspect.

Mars/Neptune hard aspect, the tendency to deceit is strong in them, sometimes they can't control it. Mars is action, so it is true that their actions can be sometimes split into deceit and they see it as no wrong as they have their own imagination to their actions.

Most of the time they appear gentle, but, again, my Aries can't stand dishonesty or deceit. They sometimes can use their gentleness to DO lies or manipulation (can be very secretive with their DOING (mars) also, usually the type who can be very easily do something behind your back without you knowing they hide something as they can appear caring, gentle, soft, etc).

I always open my eyes if I deal with this aspect in a person or in a relationship. [b]The bad from hard aspect will be always there, no matter what.[/B]

---

posted March 26, 2018 06:19 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
YES!! You're my girl.

Very interesting thing to say about men handling a woman's Mars, that's a great idea for another topic for a more in depth exploration. Mars/Neptune is definitely on the list of potentially very romantic and erotic aspects. It's interesting what you said about its platonic values. I suppose this happens when Mars gets "diluted" by Neptune or if Mars is given a "higher love" connotation, as described in the above article or a feeling of seeing sex as something "dirty" or too crude with that particular person. This is one possible manifestation of this aspect. I actually know a couple with his Mars conj her Neptune and he has felt this from the beginning with her, no physical attraction in the more steamy, purely physical sense, more like: "she is something sacred, touching her would be almost like blasphemy" or " I only feel something gentle and otherworldly about her" ugh I'm not sure if I managed to describe properly, but hopefully you got the picture.

---

I'm female and have this with everyone born early 1960s. Ugh. When there's not mutual interest...Terrible. Early Scorpio neptune is conjunct my Moon and opposite my Mars and guys always get out of control obsessed ad it's obvious they have NO CLUE who I am. Then because I always attract Pluto-ish peeps, they become very angry about "their letdown." I notice I become more aggressive and direct b/c I can see them caught in the fog them and do NOT want to be giving the wrong impression! Ive also found them to be extremely inefficient & aimless when I'm trying to get something done. Drives me nuts! Can you tell this is happening RIGHT NOW? lol. UGH. My LEAST favorite planet ever.

posted May 08, 2019 10:05 PM            

In this case, we shared the Mars/Neptune opposition so we also had it in composite. Jewel Mayberry has a great video on this describing which believe applies well for synastry too. It creates a fantasy climate of "Sexual Idealization" despite usually any other compatibility factors and I think a real overemphasis on sex due to lack of other true compatibility. Not always, but pretty darn often. And it tends to weaken the Mars (drive, clarity and direction) of both people in it over time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdRV92B9RwI

I've had this opposition in composite twice and never been so dreamily attracted to someone so fast regardless of ANY compatibility factors or things in common. It's a somewhat warmer, dreamier headier vibe than the hardcore animal lust that gets you into the sack super fast but still pretty lusty!

It does create a wonderful feeling but a feeling I definitely do NOT trust until that feeling has been earned through appreciation of a long term (over a year) friendship/ association that has gone through a more realistic set of phases of intimacy.

(I have a Pisces DESC but only really a soft Neptune aspects to my sun & an inconjunct to my Saturn.)
This particular person also has Sun/Mercury square Neptune, transiting Neptune is opposing his Virgo Venus and squaring his Mars in Gemini so...he ain't seein' clearly, that's for sure. And there are already some Neptune/integrity problems with this dude.

I found it fascinating how he was swearing up and down how I was his ideal, leading me up a primrose path, wining and dining me, spoiling me (all the while eyes wandering constantly) etc., going on Match as soon as I didn't have time for him (even up to an hour right before we'd meet up so...) & then expressing jealousy over my male platonic friends or business partners only 2 weeks into dating!!?? Of course I never let on that I knew. He had an almost auto-erotic vibe where he was so disconnected from what was actually happening in the room, I decided to bail him b/c really, who needs it?

And yes, in true "Neptune/Mars" fashion, the last time we saw each other, I made a fairly direct comment finally re: the sex, he didn't acknowledge much, we kissed each other warmly as he was going out the door and both bailed each other online IMMEDIATELY after. He must have known the gig was up, bubble was burst. I disconnected him from me and hid my profile & his had already disappeared. All in a manner of minutes! LMFAO!!! NEXT VICTIM!!

Why did I go for the ride & ignore the warnings? I guess I wanted a little escape, a little fun after months and months of grueling travel & hard work. I knew it was fantasy, too good to be true but hey, it was a lot of FUN. Neptune/Mars energy is great for the purpose of creative fantasy, play-acting, performance charisma within oneself or between others but for my ride or die in real life, I'll stick to Jupiter and Saturn to be my compass.

posted May 09, 2019 04:22 AM            

I'm now in another r/s where his Neptune square my Mars and my Neptune quincunx his Mars. Sex is also good but not as good as with my ex, but I think he puts on a pedestal and he goes overboard with his expression (natally his Mars conj Jupiter, square Pluto). We also have Mars trine Mars so our bodies rhythm matched. I think that's what makes it good.

I agree that this aspect cannot sustain on its own (no one single aspect can anyway) so if you have other sexual/emotionally compatible aspects, I don't see a big deal with this square.