posted July 26, 2014 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
I think it's much different for someone with AC-NN than AC-SN. AC is more personal and readily adaptable by the native, so with NN, they are free to progress at their own pace. Since my NN is on my DC, a cooperative angle, it's entirely up to all the contacts I make in life, for good or not. Many missteps, stumbles, and upsets along the way.

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posted July 26, 2014 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Scorpie, I wanted to apologize to you, because I didn't mean to hijack your thread. These Pluto-Moon and Pluto-IC discussions just reel me in and I get carried away. Your synastry sounds very powerful, and it sounds like he may feel it strongest because I think your Pluto and Moon are close to his AC, unless I'm picturing it wrong. If it is, then it will hit him deeply. The good thing is that since you both have a Moon-Pluto aspect in your natals, you both probably like and want that emotional depth in your relationship that only Pluto can bring.

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No worries--I'm loving learning about how angles feel with Pluto.

posted July 26, 2014 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
JUPITER square your MOON-PLUTO can bring out the less pleasant aspects of a MOON-PLUTO conjunction, such as obsession or overbearingness. You may come on too strongly, especially with that Cancer flavor added into the mix. An orb of 10° is really wide though, even for an aspecting luminary. The effect isn't as strong.

JUPITER in 11H lends great likability with your friends - they consider you like family, but your moral expectations of others may be too high in general. You might subconsciously be forcing your ideals on others. Look for a soft aspect out of either your JUPITER or your MOON-PLUTO to channel that energy in a positive way.

The nodal axis is like a guiding light in your life. Master what your SN points you to, and you will be able to move forward toward your NN with clarity and success. Your PoF is areas of life you will find satisfaction. Since these are both sandwiched between your MOON and PLUTO, that indicates emotional transmutation is a highlight for you.

VENUS as dispositor adds natural charm and appeal to PLUTO's energy, making it attractive. As for VESTA, that's your blood, sweat, and tears at work there. You're a dog with a bone. You may hold grudges, or stubbornly cling to things. Perhaps a miserly or posessive attitude toward things you've earned, or things you feel entitled to.

On the positive side, PLUTO-NN-VESTA is a good show of dedication for self-advancement. Libra is an un-abrasive sign that works well with others, as well.

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Thanks so much BlindWriter--you are really good at this!

posted July 26, 2014 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Thanks so much BlindWriter--you are really good at this!

That's interesting that you say to work on your SN. Most people say to move away from the SN and work on NN--no? Mine is in Aries in H8...so I interpret that as I need to learn how to make money on my own...? Thoughts?

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The nodal axis is about finding balance to progress on your life plan. You cannot just focus on one node or the other. By mastering the innate experience and tools given by your SN, you can move forward. The SN is like your foundation. You must build a solid foundation before trying to build anything on it, or your NN goals will crumble. On the other hand, the SN is where you are most comfortable. Don't get too cozy, or your comfort zone will erode, and you will be flung into unfamiliar territory without any preparation.

An example: SN in 8H can sometimes mean one comes from a poor upbringing, so they come to understand the true value of things, which brings their NN into focus. Since they understand the life of harshness, they fine-tune what's important and go exclusively for that. If they do not learn the true value of a thing (8H pierces through the veil), they will stagnate and continue to suffer, losing more than just money, but things or people they consider important. If they exclusively go towards getting rich quick, they will forget the lessons they learned, and not obtain much of real value.

The SN in 8H can indicate gullibility, and in Aries, a habit of jumping the gun to your detriment. Look closely at your history, learn those lessons, and figure out how to become more self-aware. Master that go-getter Arian energy, so your eyes are open before you can leap.

The 2H represents more than just the money you acquire - more importantly, it reflects your core beliefs (this is separate from religion, which is a 9H affair - this is more basic), your morals, ethics, self-esteem, as well as the basic things you possess, or the clutter in your life. It is the accrual of stuff, including experiences. NN in Libra can indicate a need to be fair in sharing, a more balanced outlook, and the merits of teamwork to accomplish a goal. You need to define what it is that is important to you.

Another example: Spearhead a project (Aries) based on the hidden trends you've seen (8H), then rely on your team's input (Libra) to help you follow through to fruition (2H).

posted July 26, 2014 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
The nodal axis is about finding balance to progress on your life plan. You cannot just focus on one node or the other. By mastering the innate experience and tools given by your SN, you can move forward. The SN is like your foundation. You must build a solid foundation before trying to build anything on it, or your NN goals will crumble. On the other hand, the SN is where you are most comfortable. Don't get too cozy, or your comfort zone will erode, and you will be flung into unfamiliar territory without any preparation.

An example: SN in 8H can sometimes mean one comes from a poor upbringing, so they come to understand the true value of things, which brings their NN into focus. Since they understand the life of harshness, they fine-tune what's important and go exclusively for that. If they do not learn the true value of a thing (8H pierces through the veil), they will stagnate and continue to suffer, losing more than just money, but things or people they consider important. If they exclusively go towards getting rich quick, they will forget the lessons they learned, and not obtain much of real value.

The SN in 8H can indicate gullibility, and in Aries, a habit of jumping the gun to your detriment. Look closely at your history, learn those lessons, and figure out how to become more self-aware. Master that go-getter Arian energy, so your eyes are open before you can leap.

The 2H represents more than just the money you acquire - more importantly, it reflects your core beliefs (this is separate from religion, which is a 9H affair - this is more basic), your morals, ethics, self-esteem, as well as the basic things you possess, or the clutter in your life. It is the accrual of stuff, including experiences. NN in Libra can indicate a need to be fair in sharing, a more balanced outlook, and the merits of teamwork to accomplish a goal. You need to define what it is that is important to you.

Another example: Spearhead a project (Aries) based on the hidden trends you've seen (8H), then rely on your team's input (Libra) to help you follow through to fruition (2H).

In my case, I have an Aqu SN on AC. I like being a loner, it's more comfortable for me. If I can command my own unique (Aqu) individuality (AC), then it will naturally make me shine (Leo), and draw people and relationships to me (DC) - especially those I share karma with (nodes). With my Libra stellium in 8H (Libra is the classic 7H sign), it gives me an excellent opportunity to clear any outstanding karma there may be.

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posted July 26, 2014 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
The nodal axis is about finding balance to progress on your life plan. You cannot just focus on one node or the other. By mastering the innate experience and tools given by your SN, you can move forward. The SN is like your foundation. You must build a solid foundation before trying to build anything on it, or your NN goals will crumble. On the other hand, the SN is where you are most comfortable. Don't get too cozy, or your comfort zone will erode, and you will be flung into unfamiliar territory without any preparation.

An example: SN in 8H can sometimes mean one comes from a poor upbringing, so they come to understand the true value of things, which brings their NN into focus. Since they understand the life of harshness, they fine-tune what's important and go exclusively for that. If they do not learn the true value of a thing (8H pierces through the veil), they will stagnate and continue to suffer, losing more than just money, but things or people they consider important. If they exclusively go towards getting rich quick, they will forget the lessons they learned, and not obtain much of real value.

The SN in 8H can indicate gullibility, and in Aries, a habit of jumping the gun to your detriment. Look closely at your history, learn those lessons, and figure out how to become more self-aware. Master that go-getter Arian energy, so your eyes are open before you can leap.

The 2H represents more than just the money you acquire - more importantly, it reflects your core beliefs (this is separate from religion, which is a 9H affair - this is more basic), your morals, ethics, self-esteem, as well as the basic things you possess, or the clutter in your life. It is the accrual of stuff, including experiences. NN in Libra can indicate a need to be fair in sharing, a more balanced outlook, and the merits of teamwork to accomplish a goal. You need to define what it is that is important to you.

Another example: Spearhead a project (Aries) based on the hidden trends you've seen (8H), then rely on your team's input (Libra) to help you follow through to fruition (2H).

In my case, I have an Aqu SN on AC. I like being a loner, it's more comfortable for me. If I can command my own unique (Aqu) individuality (AC), then it will naturally make me shine (Leo), and draw people and relationships to me (DC) - especially those I share karma with (nodes). With my Libra stellium in 8H (Libra is the classic 7H sign), it gives me an excellent opportunity to clear any outstanding karma there may be.

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posted July 28, 2014 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:

I'm attracted to people with prominent Scorpionic energies, both romantically and in friendships. The main dispositors in my chart are PLUTO and VENUS (they rule each other), so I'm quite familiar with dealing with PLUTO, too. I get hit strongly by people slightly older than me (filling the gap between my natal PLUTO and MOON), or those about 4 or so years younger (where PLUTO begin to aspect my VENUS).

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posted July 28, 2014 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Interesting post BW. I have the pluto moon square. I'm also Pluto Venus heavy in my chart, but interestingly I attract and am attracted mostly to the opposite, very unemotional, stable, not super expressive, even keeled people.

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It isn't that I'm necessarily only drawn to Scorpio SUN or MOON - it's that I like people with strong 8H placements (regardless of sign), PLUTO as a top dispositor or chart ruler, significant PLUTO aspects, or - yes - prominent Scorpio placements. That kind of energy rippling under the surface is along the same wavelength as mine. I'm put off by /too much/ Scorpio, as it lacks the variety my Sagittarius SUN needs to stay interested, but a good dose of it makes us relatable as individuals.

I think it has a lot to do with my 8H stellium (which includes PLUTO), and my MERCURY-URANUS-MC conjunction (9H side), plus Scorpio VENUS in 9H (also Scorpio). MERCURY and VENUS there incite an open-eyed search and interest (even study) of Scorpio-hued things.

posted July 28, 2014 04:58 AM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
GREAT explanation--thank you!

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