posted August 21, 2014 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
for some weird reason I was never really draw to my Duad Mars-sign, which is in Aquarius.

2 degrees of Auarius.

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That's because you haven't met Mr Aqua yet

or...perhaps???

posted August 21, 2014 04:52 PM            

Apart from being around my MC and all the other important aspects a Scorpio Moon does in my chart, another astonishing reason why I like Scorpio Mooners.

Also, my natal MC/IC triggers his duad Sun/Moon axis - Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Taurus -

posted August 21, 2014 05:12 PM            

your Duad Venus is on my Duad URanus exact, maybe that is why all you can think of is Mr Aqua when you think of me?

BTW Mr Sag`s Duad Moon is on 13 Scorpio and his Duad Venus on 11 Scorpio, so they are widely conj. my Duad Uranus.

He actually got a pretty intense Duad chart.

Moon-Venus-MC- conjunction in Scorpio
square
Uranus-Vertex in Leo

If we are a little generous with the orb of quinkunx he also has a Yod of

Moon 13 Scorpio sextile Mars 13 Cap
quinkunx
Pluto 16 Gemini

BML on 8 Cancer right on the DESC

Jupiter on 1 Cap, Mars on 13 Cap, (reflectiong the 1 degree conjunction in the natal chart) Of course it is to wide for a conjunction, however his Duad ASC is on 7 Cap, thus right on the midpoint of Mars/Jupiter

Funny enough we both share another mutual natal aspect from Duad to natal.

We both have Duad Sun in Libra conjunct natal Pluto
(mine is 11-9 degree Libra; his is from 23-22 degree Libra)

While we do not have a synastric Venus-Pluto aspect on the tropical level, despite both haveing Venus-pluto-square natally, it sort of comes up on the Duad level

His D Pluto on 16 Gemini squares my D Venus-Vertex on 13 and 18 Pisces.
Obviously my Duad Venus is also opposing his natal Mars by 2 degrees, and his Duad Mars is at least in the same sign and widely conjunct my Venus (13 - 6 Capricorn).
Well his Duad Jupiter on 1 Cap and Duad ASc on 7 Cap are pretty much conjunct my tropical Venus on 6 Cap, and his Duad BML opposes my tropical Venus.

his Duad Vesta on 6 Gemini and Duad Neptune on 5 Leo are making a Yod with my tropical Venus on 6 Cap.

While my Duad Vesta on 16 Cap and Duad Uranus on 16 Scorpio make a Yod with his Duad Pluto on 16 Gemini. lol

oh and my Duad Moon on 25 Leo and Duad Ceres on 25 Gemini are making another Yod with his tropical Venus on 25 Cap.

my Duad Saturn and Duad Pluto are near to his tropical Venus. Well hte Saturn definitely is conjunct (2 degrees), the Pluto is very loosely connected (7 degrees).

posted August 21, 2014 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes I know the basic idea behind Super-Duads (breaking it down even more), but I have no idea how many degrees those are.

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Yeah

And just to clarify, the Duads you and LeeLoo are referring to and talking about aren't the 12th Harmonic Chart placements, right? Because those aren't the Duads... those are something else because when I calculate my 12th Harmonic Chart, it gives me a Capricorn Sun (and other placements that don't match up with my Duads), but my Sun is actually in the Gemini Duad because it's at 23 degrees Virgo, and that's in the Gemini Duad of Virgo. (Gemini Duad of Virgo goes from 22.5 degrees Virgo - 25 degrees Virgo).

Edit - Oh, I think I get it now. The 12th harmonic Chart placements are the "Dwads", not the "Duads".

posted August 22, 2014 01:03 AM            

Each Super Duad consists of 12.5 minutes of a Duad. So you will be able to fit twelve (the 12 signs) 12.5's in 2.5 degrees!

60 minutes = 1 degree
30 minutes = 0.5 degrees
150 minutes = 2.5 degrees

60 + 60 + 30 = 150
150/12.5 = 12

posted August 22, 2014 02:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
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I prefer using the Duads over the Dwads. As it seems to make more sense and works better with the Decans.

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posted August 22, 2014 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
A table here:

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posted August 22, 2014 02:45 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Have you guys ever tried to get the actual degrees? It's kind of a pain in the arse, but I've found an easy cheat on Astro.com that gives them to you, so long as you look up the sign on a chart.

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posted August 22, 2014 02:56 AM            

Well there's the Aquarius Ascendant I always wanted... LOL

posted August 22, 2014 04:52 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I ADORE dwads. They're SUCH a hidden link for me. The affinity they reveal is amazing.

Have you guys ever tried to get the actual degrees? It's kind of a pain in cthe arse, but I've found an easy cheat on Astro.com that gives them to you, so long as you look up the sign on a chart.

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The 12th harmonic chart gives the degrees,b ut in a different sign if I remember it rightly.

posted August 22, 2014 04:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
My Sun is in the Super Duad of Capricorn, my Moon is in the Super Duad of Scorpio and my Ascendant is in the Super Duad of Aquarius.

Well there's the Aquarius Ascendant I always wanted... LOL

I think we should rename the Super Duad to something else because I don't like adding the word "Super", and I want it to be just one word so it has a unique name like Decan and Duad has. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what we should rename Super Duads? It has to start with a "D" as well, so that it follows along with Decan and Duad.

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posted August 22, 2014 05:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Can you give an example calculation?

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Yeah.

Sun in Virgo at 23.58 degrees.
So it's in the Taurus Decan.
It's also in the Gemini Duad because it's starts from 22.30 Virgo - 25 Virgo.

Since it's in the Gemini Duad, I must start with the Gemini Super Duad.

I have to add 12.5 minutes for each Super Duad.

So... (22.30 - 22.42.5 is the Gemini Super Duad)... (22.42.5 - 22.55 is the Cancer Super Duad)... (22.55 - 23.7.5 is the Leo Super Duad)... (23.7.5 - 23.20 is the Virgo Super Duad)... (23.20 - 23.32.5 is the Libra Super Duad)... (23.32.5 - 23.45 is the Scorpio Super Duad)... (23.45 - 23.57.5 is the Sagittarius Super Duad)... (23.57.5 - 24.10 is the Capricorn Super Duad)... (24.10 - 24.22.5 is the Aquarius Super Duad)... (24.22.5 - 24.35 is the Pisces Super Duad)... (24.35 - 24.47.5 is the Aries Super Duad)... (24.47.5 - 25 is the Taurus Super Duad).

posted August 22, 2014 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

your Duad Venus is on my Duad URanus exact, maybe that is why all you can think of is Mr Aqua when you think of me?
lol

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hehehe good point!

Would you look at that...under the surface, he seems pretty Scorpionic. I love how you share Sun/Pluto.

posted August 22, 2014 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The 12th harmonic chart gives the degrees,b ut in a different sign if I remember it rightly.

And you are also talking about Duads, right? NOT the Dwads that always start at 00 Aries, irrespective of sign?

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posted August 23, 2014 11:27 AM            

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posted August 24, 2014 09:33 AM            

So I guess the main question is: are the duads the persons we attract or the ones we are attracted to?
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posted August 24, 2014 09:51 AM            

"RELATIONSHIPS:

The duads show your instinctive attraction towards a person. The reason why is because these zodiac signs run through the family genes, the person will also attract and be attracted to non-family members with the Sun, Moon, Angles or Nodes in these signs. Therefore: People frequently marry people who fit this criteria.

For a woman the duads of your Sun, Moon, Mars, Ascendant and Nodes are usually the main significators of attraction to the opposite sex. E.g. if a woman has her Sun in Cancer in the Libra duad and the 4th duad (Cancer), she will be instinctively drawn to Libran and Cancerian men, or, to a lesser extent, people with the Moon, Mars, Angles or North Node in Libra or Cancer.

For a man, the duads of your Sun, Moon, Venus, Ascendant and Nodes are the main significators of attraction towards the opposite sex. E.g. if a man has his Moon in Taurus in the Taurus duad and 1st (Aries) duad of Taurus his instincts will draw him to women with the Moon or Venus in Taurus or Aries, or to a lesser extent, the Sun, Angles or Nodes in that sign.

SEXUAL ATTRACTION:

A woman will find a man sexy if he has Mars in the same sign as her Mars duad. E.g. a woman whose Mars is at 1Virgo39 will have Mars in the Virgo duad and 1st (Aries) dwad, so she is likely to find men with Mars in Virgo or Aries sexy.

A man will find a woman sexy if she has her Venus or Moon in the same sign as his Venus or Moon duad. E.g. a man with his Venus at 16Libra23 in the Aries duad and 7th (Libra) dwad of Libra will find women with Venus in Aries and Venus in Libra quite beautiful. He will also like women with the Moon in Aries or Libra.

The Nodes are important for emotional connection between people. These connections show very strongly in marriage and family charts. E.g. A person with the North Node at 4Taurus58 in the Gemini duad and 2nd (Taurus) dwad, will be drawn to those who carry Gemini and/or Taurus in their Sun, Moon, Ascendant, MC and/or Vertex. This may indicate a soul connection. These signs will also run through the family.

If someone does not have the zodiac sign or duads that your genetic patterning requires, there is less likely to be any deep, instinctual level of attraction. You may like or dislike them according to the synastry of their chart and yours, but there is not the “kick” that starts a relationship.

Therefore: In relationship and synastry charts, the duads are the first step in assessing whether someone will be attracted to another."
http://aliceportman.com/190/

posted August 24, 2014 01:36 PM            

My dwad Moon is at 16' Libra, which conjuncts my natal Venus at 17' Libra.
Well, his dwad Sun is at 18' Libra, which conjuncts both my Moon and Venus, and all that is opposing his natal Sun at 17' Aries.

On the other hand, my dwad Venus in Aries conjuncts his natal Sun in Aries.

So, we have a double whammy Sun-Venus conjunction in the dwad- natal comparison, going both ways.
We have the same double whammy of Sun- Venus (opposition) in our natal to natal synastry. All This coupled with the already mentioned exact Sun- Moon conjunction in dwads and Sun- Moon opposition in dwad- natal.
Does that happen often in dwads or it seems kind of a rare occurrence to me?

Also, His dwad Venus at 3' Pisces falls on my natal ASC and North Node at 2' Pisces.
My dwad ASC and Node is in Aries, like his Sun.

posted August 24, 2014 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, do you think the vibration of duads is always manifest within us ( in our behavior) or do we need something (like transits) or someone to trigger them for us?

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posted August 24, 2014 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Another question...what is the theory behind the concept: "in a synastry, the tropical planet is the one being fascinated by/attracted to the duad person"? I would have thought it's the other way around??

So I guess the main question is: are the duads the persons we attract or the ones we are attracted to?

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I read different takes on this.

I usedt o agree with you that the Duad person is feeling it most internally and intense.
However other people described different reactions.

I was thinking that possibly our receptive planets Moon an dVenus are most prone to the, well, receptivity.

So a tropical Moon and Venus might actually feel the Duad Sun and Duad Mars mroe acutely than the Duad person. Dunno if that is really true though.

I know Alice portmans article and take, and though I generally agree with the line of thought, it isn`t true for me.

Never been attracted to a man with Mars in Aquarius. But mars rules my IC, so he doesn`t play that important part in terms of sexual attraction for me anyway (beside him being general marker of sexual things of course).