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Topic: Uranian Astrology - Themes in Synastry and Composite
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 06:26 AM
It's ok, your majesty ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 06:37 AM
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posted August 31, 2014 06:42 AM
All right now, astrowitches, these hypotheticals "move" veeery slowly, they will be around the same degrees of the same sign for several generations. Which means we need to consider close orbs and the aspects/houses are the ones making the difference. The connections between these markers and outers and Chiron will always be generational. For example, 1974-1975 has the Uranus/Cupido conjunction in late Libra: this would probably give an attraction to Uranian relationships: interest for foreigners, foreign cultures, people with a different background etc; perhaps a boom of internet/long distance relationships; freedom and equality in relationships; New Age principles in relationships; the need for an exhilarating feeling/spirituality/strong otherworldly higher dimensions love; in fact everything Uranus in Libra means would probably be highlighted by this conjunction.
I think the themes/archetypes of these hypotheticals are not bad; at least they fit my chart and my primary interest, which I hope we'll continue to explore together is how these themes come up in composite/synastry, because each Uranian archetype describes a certain marker for relationships: Hades: COMPULSION, OBSESSION, THE DARK AND DEEP EXPERIENCES OF LOVE Zeus: DOMINATION, POWER, STRONG IMPULSES Vulkanus: PASSION, HEAT, FIRE, HEALING, ANGER/VIOLENCE Cupido: LOVE, MARRIAGE, SOULMATE, WISH-FULFILLING (DESIRE) Apollo: general benefic, HARVEST FERTILITY CREATIVITY ABUNDANCE AND JOY - a solar vibe and the rest as I described them Admetos: inescapable fate, turning-point, a place of surrender to the Universe. Poseidon: Super-Neptune, spirituality, ideal/idealization.
Kronos: higher realms connections, psychic/otheworldly connections, the best outcome. ------------------
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posted August 31, 2014 07:01 AM
So I'm thinking this: look for Hades in your chart (and the aspects) to see where you may experience compulsion, obsession, other 8th house matters, rejuvenation, perhaps the "dark night of the soul"; in synastry/comp a marker for the same, mutually
look for Zeus to see where you have power and general "libido" as described by Freud; it should also be an indication for marriage in relationship charts
look for Vulkanus for some sort of strong inner fire and passion, leading to passion/healing or violence; the same in relationship charts because the Uranians consider Cupido a "lucky" marker, look for Cupido to see what's the best relationship/love for you, where you find true love; Cupido emphasized in relationship charts should be a marker for a good, long term love look for Apollo as a marker of a benefic Sun/Jupiter combo, artistic, creative inclinations, general abundance/wealth/fertility, your solar "personality", a place of happiness/success; the same in comp/synastry look for Admetos for some sort of fixed Pholus: actually, it has a Yod vibe: a blockage needing a certain moment of time to lead to freedom/transformation, but the time is fated; a divine intervention; it also resembles The Hanged Man in Tarot very well; it must be a fated marker in relationships; it may show a blockage in need to be overcome: I suppose if it's strongly featured, the two have a common fate
look for a Poseidon as a Super, highly positive Neptune, a place where an ideal is reached
look for Khronos to see a highly spiritual spot, some sort of Nirvana, a projection into the future, where you feel "time is on your side" and you won. Emphasized in relationship charts should show common, positive future and a highly spiritual relationship. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 07:04 AM
And tell me if it fits let's see if the Uranians have a point IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 07:17 AM
Wasn't Zeus a notorious cheater? Maybe that placement indicates the area in which we are not faithful? IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 07:22 AM
Zeus seems to be a variation of Mars. I think it's more of a power marker - power struggles, control, need to dominate/own/posses the other (That's what Zeus did with all those mortal ladies Another description here:"Zeus (zoos) Keywords: Controlled, directed energy. Machines; creativity; leadership. All things military. Combustion engines. Compulsion. Drive. A symbol of "controlled energy," Zeus is linked to all types of creative and procreative endeavors. It has an active, fiery nature, and lends considerable zest and drive to whatever it touches. Machinery, weapons, and the combustion engine are all related to Zeus, as are production lines and leadership activities. In combination with Kronos and Vulcanus, Zeus has been found to have strong ties to the weapons and destructive power of modern warfare, and all three planets were closely linked throughout the entire period of World War II. Zeus (16 degrees Leo) squared Kronos (16 degrees Taurus) at the start of the war (September 1, 1939), and (at 18 degrees Leo) was exactly sextile Vulcanus (18 degrees Gemini) during the bombing of Pearl Harbor (December 7, 1941). But Zeus's creative energy and focused drive normally finds more positive, less destructive, outlets in the natal chart -- through sports activities, for example. Professional football quarterback Joe Namuth has his natal Zeus (18 degrees Leo) sesquiquadrate natal Mars (3 degrees Aries), while jockey Robyn Smith as her natal Zeus (20 degrees Leo) semi-sextile natal Mars (20 degrees Virgo) and conjunct her natal Sun (21 degrees Leo).' http://www.astrologysoftware.com/resources/articles/uranian.asp IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 07:47 AM
Okay, if Zeus is positively aspected it can indicate a powerful and creative drive. If not: war Maybe Zeus in hard aspect to venus could prove unfaithfulness in synastries or natals? So Zeus in 3h/virgo quincunx my mc/eris/ceres in aries in 10 could indicate that I can get into trouble in professional life due to harsh words? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 07:51 AM
Hades conjunct Mars DW my Kronos conjunct his Sun my Zeus conjunct his Jupiter my Vulkanus conjunct his Psyche his Vulkanus opposite my Uranus exact his Poseidon conjunct my Ceres his Cupido conjunct my hypothetical Proserpinacomposite: Hades conjunct Mars Vulkanus conjunct Vesta exact Kronos conjunct Priapus exact and opposite Uranus exact Cupido opposite asteroid Cupido exact Poseidon conjunct NN-Vertex Cupido conjunct Admetos Zeus-Pholus-IC grand trine ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 08:02 AM
quote: Maybe Zeus in hard aspect to venus could prove unfaithfulness in synastries or natals?
Maybe. After all Zeus was a horndog.Btw, is it me or could Poseidon be associated with out of body experiences? If yes, it really works
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posted August 31, 2014 08:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: All right now, astrowitches, these hypotheticals "move" veeery slowly, they will be around the same degrees of the same sign for several generations. Which means we need to consider close orbs and the aspects/houses are the ones making the difference. The connections between these markers and outers and Chiron will always be generational.
Yes, exactly what I wrote just a few posts ago. Arenīt you reading my posts anymore? Do I have to worry I am losing your attention?
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posted August 31, 2014 08:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: Okay, if Zeus is positively aspected it can indicate a powerful and creative drive. If not: war Maybe Zeus in hard aspect to venus could prove unfaithfulness in synastries or natals? So Zeus in 3h/virgo quincunx my mc/eris/ceres in aries in 10 could indicate that I can get into trouble in professional life due to harsh words?
I think we have to differentiate the hypothetical Zeus from the asteroid Zeus, as the hypotheticals have very specific meanings in Uranian astrology, and it is nto always totally displaying the mythological background. IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 08:06 AM
Okay, I was too much into the mythical Zeus IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 08:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: [QUOTE]Maybe Zeus in hard aspect to venus could prove unfaithfulness in synastries or natals?
Maybe. After all Zeus was a horndog.Btw, is it me or could Poseidon be associated with out of body experiences? If yes, it really works [/QUOTE]
it would make sense to me. IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 08:07 AM
Leeloo,what orb would you suggest for synastry and/ or composite? For the hyptoheticals to - personal planets and angles - outer planets and hypotheticals themselves? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 08:10 AM
I read the description and it made me think of this phenomenon. I've had OBEs and I'm slightly obsessed with figuring out the nature of higher dimensions. I have Poseidon exactly on my Moon.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 08:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Leeloo,what orb would you suggest for synastry and/ or composite? For the hyptoheticals to - personal planets and angles - outer planets and hypotheticals themselves?
I'm thinking a maximum 2 is best, although if you have Sun or ASC conjunct Kronos (3) I certainly wouldn't disconsider it. Let's say 3 then. Apparently modern Uranians use up to 5 deg. orbs, although the Hamburg school preferred a max. 1 orb.
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posted August 31, 2014 08:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: Okay, if Zeus is positively aspected it can indicate a powerful and creative drive. If not: war Maybe Zeus in hard aspect to venus could prove unfaithfulness in synastries or natals? So Zeus in 3h/virgo quincunx my mc/eris/ceres in aries in 10 could indicate that I can get into trouble in professional life due to harsh words?
Maybe. Buy why trouble? The quincunx is also surprise, unexpected, Uranian, exciting. ------------------
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 31, 2014 08:28 AM
I have Poseidon square Poseidon ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 08:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Maybe. Buy why trouble? The quincunx is also surprise, unexpected, Uranian, exciting.
Ah....I take the following interpretation: I am going to become a supastar over night. Basta IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 08:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: Those placements could indicate that you could be the Managing Director of an Event/creativity agency and you would become rich in that position
Exactly what I want! I hope this was one of your sporadic psychic insights .
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posted August 31, 2014 08:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I'm thinking a maximum 2 is best, although if you have Sun or ASC conjunct Kronos (3) I certainly wouldn't disconsider it. Let's say 3 then. Apparently modern Uranians use up to 5 deg. orbs, although the Hamburg school preferred a max. 1 orb.
Yes, that was the orb I had in mind myself. Preferably under 2 degrees, but extending to 3 degrees if important enough. Though 5 degrees seem rather wide for my taste.
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posted August 31, 2014 09:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
A symbol of "controlled energy," Zeus is linked to all types of creative and procreative endeavors. It has an active, fiery nature, and lends considerable zest and drive to whatever it touches. Machinery, weapons, and the combustion engine are all related to Zeus, as are production lines and leadership activities.
I am assuming that Zeus on Regulus conjunct Pluto (1), Jupiter (2) means all good things: leadership, expansion, creativity with transformative power. Yes? It seems that wonderful potentials are not being realised . IP: Logged |
KarmicMoon Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Moon, Milky Way Registered: Feb 2014
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posted August 31, 2014 10:22 AM
Great post LeeLoo, thanks. These points are making some pretty spiritual and karmic aspects. IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2014 12:07 PM
synastry -----------my CUPIDO sextile his Moon exact my CUPIDO square his JUNO my CUPIDO conjunct his UNION on 29.28 Libra precise my CUPIDO sextile his BML my CUPIDO trine his PRIAPUS two sets of trines sextiling each other. his BML trines his Moon-MC-Sun and my Sun his PRIAPUS trines my CUPIDO his CUPIDO sextile my Venus exact his CUPIDO trine my Pholus exact his CUPIDO opposite my ADMETOS (2) his CUPIDO trine my VULCANUS exact his CUPIDO quinkunx my ALMA exact
Kite based on the Grand Water trine of his CUPIDO-Lust in 6 Scorpio my my Pholus in 6 PIsces (conj. his Eros 8 Piscess) my VULKANUS 6 Cancer making oppositions - hey wait is that a Star of David then? my Venus 6 Cap (opp. my Vulkanus) my ADMETOS 4 Taurus and his VESTA 3 Taurus and my ast. Lilith 6 Virgo and his AMOR 9 Virgo ----------------------------------------- my HADES opposite his Uranus (1) my HADES quinkunx his Neptune (2) my HADES quinkunx his Pluto(1) my HADES sextile his Pholus exact Yod of his Neptune sextile PLuto quinkunx my HADES, with his Uranus on the release point, which is interesting as his Uranus is also widely conjunct his VALENTINE and my ANTEROS (and my HADES being 3 degree oppposite them), and also aligned (conj/ opposite) with his Odysseus on my Penelope opposing my HADES-Odysseus, along with solar Moon. And of course his Uranus falls onto my Venus/Pluto-mp. Phew.
his HADES quinkunx my Sun (2) his HADES quinkunx my CUPIDO-UNION-h57 PROSERPINA(2) his HADES trine my VALENTINE exact his HADES square my BML exact widish Yod of my Sun (26 Sag) and his Moon (28 Sag) sextile my CUPIDO-UNION-PRos. (29 Libra) and quinkunx his HADES on 27 Taurus, with my VALENTINE on the release point. Does anyone else get a little bit of goosebumps.
We have two Yods, involving each other`s HADES, and both have each other`s VALENTINE on the release point, though his VALENTINE is just loosely tied to this (his Valentine: 19°35 Scorpio; my HADES: 22°42 Taurus - but his Uranus is more closely as it is on 23°24 Scorpio) IP: Logged | |