posted September 01, 2014 12:31 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Mercury-Neptune-Pluto t-square - writing?
Mercury-Saturn-Mars-PoF kite - getting rich through writing?

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posted September 01, 2014 12:33 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
*raises hand tentatively* A little bit.

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and what's your experience with that?

posted September 01, 2014 03:07 PM            

Oh, you had to bring HADES up again, didn't you?

posted September 01, 2014 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
:: shifting uncomfortably ::

Oh, you had to bring HADES up again, didn't you?

Damn. Can't escape it.

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My pleasure

posted September 01, 2014 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Hades: Personal responsibility, discernment, poverty, consciousness, the dream world portal, deep karma, inner fortitude. A visit to Hades is a nightmare. You are stuck in the vacuum of time and cannot escape until the subconscious sorts through what it needs to. This planet’s outcomes are favorable, but only if you are accountable for your actions and follow instinct. Hades has ten-thousand times the karma of Pluto, used by Evolutionary Astrologers. When Hades appears in the chart, it shows where the Native failed in life and must continue working throughout lifetimes. Chiron works in a similar fashion, but represents the wounded ego, whereas Hades bears no wounds, unless you are paying back for poor choices that do not follow your highest intent. Hades is a primary Focus in the chart, as it is repeated throughout lifetimes. There is a strong need for karmic clearing, energetic release, and cord severing in order to break the cycle.

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Okay. Hang on. Time out. Hold the phone. Wait.

... Jesus, more processing!

I'm REALLY gonna have to be a bit more discerning in that 'asking for something thing', because I have a presently limited capacity on accepting it -- when I get it.

Someone needs to talk to me about this. We're talking severe hand holding here. Not blase, casual, otherwise applications of theory, but realising that every single word is potentially cutting, and might send me into a corner screaming.

Can we please break this down? Slowly, methodically, and logically?

Where is this information coming from? Has it been acquired through research? Are these how it's been seen to operate in charts? During my extensive 'Hades information research extravaganza' a few days ago, I uncovered NONE of that. Miraculously.

So, let's start here:

When Hades appears in the chart, it shows where the native failed in life and must continue working throughout lifetimes.

Failed. Where the native failed and must continue working throughout lifetimes.

... I don't understand this, and I NEED to. Desperately. Good God -- fifteen years -- and that's just on this planet -- is enough for trying to sort through something. Who knows how much longer it's truly been that I've wrestled with this?

In the immortal words of David Gilmour:

'I don't want this anger burning in me. It's something from which it's so hard to be free. And none of the tears that we cry in sorrow or rage can make any difference or turn back the page.'

posted September 01, 2014 04:01 PM              

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
It was interesting to read.
I do not have any problem that HadesRx and KronosRx are in my 12th house. What I do not like so much is Mr. Vulkanus in my 1st house. With a quincunx to Neptune/NN conjunction and a sextile to the Moon/AdmetosRx conjunction he closes my configuration to a Pentagram. I guess he gives me the eruptive turbo boost into the 6th dimension.
As soon as I found somebody that wants to be crushed by my fifth house I can provide you with aspects on your synastry research.
Thank you

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Thank you, GK So you're a "still waters run deep"... I knew it...I remember your Yods

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posted September 01, 2014 04:07 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay. Hang on. Time out. Hold the phone. Wait.

... Jesus, [b]more processing!

I'm REALLY gonna have to be a bit more discerning in that 'asking for something thing', because I have a presently limited capacity on accepting it -- when I get it.

Someone needs to talk to me about this. We're talking severe hand holding here. Not blase, casual, otherwise applications of theory, but realising that every single word is potentially cutting, and might send me into a corner screaming.

Can we please break this down? Slowly, methodically, and logically?

Where is this information coming from? Has it been acquired through research? Are these how it's been seen to operate in charts? During my extensive 'Hades information research extravaganza' a few days ago, I uncovered NONE of that. Miraculously.

So, let's start here:

When Hades appears in the chart, it shows where the native failed in life and must continue working throughout lifetimes.

Failed. Where the native failed and must continue working throughout lifetimes.

... I don't understand this, and I NEED to. Desperately. Good God -- fifteen years -- and that's just on this planet -- is enough for trying to sort through something. Who knows how much longer it's truly been that I've wrestled with this?

In the immortal words of David Gilmour:

'I don't want this anger burning in me. It's something from which it's so hard to be free. And none of the tears that we cry in sorrow or rage can make any difference or turn back the page.'

Some assistance. PLEASE.[/B]

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The quote is the Hamburg school followers view on Hades, Indigo; they don't necessarily have a karmic astrology approach - they mostly identify archetypal energies when it comes to Transneptunians. What is your karmic astrology input?

posted September 01, 2014 04:33 PM              

his Zeus conjunct my Aphrodite, opp my Juno/Jupiter square my nodal axis, trine my IC, sextile my Saturn and my Vesta, semisextile my Moon - a marital combo

our Vulkanus are falling in my 6th/his 10th - working together is indicated; it squares our Pluto and his Cupido (asteroid) - strong passion here; also trining his Pholus*/Alma; sextile his Amor and my Venus - passionate love

Our Hades trine my Sun, sextile his, and angles and Vertices (mine and his) - what do you think it means?

Our Admetos are connected to our Venuses: trine mine, square his - more fate here

Our Apollo conjuncts Plutos exact, numerous aspects on both sides to personal planets - my 8th and his 1st

Our Cupido/Uranus square his Lilith/Psyche/Pallas on my ASC; numerous aspects to his angles/Saturn, Mercury/Jupiter, sextile my Amor/Vertex

Our Poseidon conjunct my Valentine, opp his Chiron square my angles, trine his Eros sextile his NN and my Vertex/Amor conjunct his Union - beautiful Neptunian love

He has Kronos conjunct Mars - so he has a potentially elevated Mars, conjunct my Kronos/Eros (an elevated Eros), numerous aspects like the Mars/Venus/Neptune cross - so our Kronos is basically related to our Venus/mars connection.

posted September 01, 2014 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm afraid you take it too seriously.

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You don't understand, Cappy. It's fine. I'm not expecting you to. This isn't a single aspect; this is the aspect. When I found it, I almost felt foolish. As if I couldn't believe it'd taken me over a decade to do so.

But then I realised: I'd never made the connexion until he introduced such themes into my life -- showing how they'd been an integral force in my work since that long ago.

I've been under a heavy karmic configuration since 18 August or so. I didn't see it until iQ pointed it out to me. SO much HAS been coming through, and just almost too rapidly for me to catch my breath. It feels overwhelming a lot of the time. But when certain things ring like a gong and well up within me something THAT strong, I no longer ignore them.

And THAT, that single line: that it points to where we have failed and must continue to work through it in further lifetimes ... that resonates beyond belief.

And we don't have lifetimes. We have NOW. And that's IT.

posted September 01, 2014 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I will try:
1. Hades is the good of underworld with a lot of the souls .Greece mythology
2. Latin it is Pluto. He is used for your own soul and as a place.
3. Therefore it is used for the past and subconscious.
4. Uranian Astrology was founded in the 1920s by German astrologer Alfred Witte. He read horoscopes for years and always found there were certain events that could not be explained.
5. As they are one of the slower planets I did interpret them by house like Pluto in the natal.

I did read the links. It needs perhaps a little bit more research, but it is very interesting.

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posted September 01, 2014 07:05 PM              

Zeus conjunct Union in the 10th - it looks rather official

Hades conjunct DSC (1) opp Venus exact - I need your insight on this I'm thinking: compulsive/obsessive relationship? Anything 8th house? It also trines Pallas (2), so it's not entirely irrational in the end.

Admetos conjunct Karma (1) trine MC, sextile IC/Jupiter, sextile Amor/Vulkanus

Apollo, Admetos and Amor are making what I believe is called an exact Mystical Triangle? Quincunx, sextile, square on the same degree: 4. It looks rather fated, it resembles the rune Dagaz, this configuration.

Apollo conjunct Pluto (1) - that is strange one, god of the Sun and light conjunct the god of darkness, I need to meditate on this one. What do you think? Exactly on 11th cusp, near Moon.

Cupido conjunct Vesta (1) and Uranus (1) trines Juno/Ceres (0)

Vulkanus conjunct Amor (2) and Saturn (1)in Cancer 8th, not bad, several aspects, among which Vulkanus trine Jupiter, 2nd ruler, exact.

Perhaps the best part is Poseidon 21 Libra making an EXACT wedge with opp Chiron 21 Aries and trine to Sun 21 Gem - the wider Mystic Rectangle for that include the nodal axis, with NN/Mercury on 19 Sag. Poseidon also semisextiles Venus on ASC. This one looks nice.

Kronos conjuncts Vertex exact Kronos 10.40 Gem, Vertex 10.05 Gem, I can't complain about this one. I would also look at Kronos as a marker for fate (time). Opp Neptune, trine Valentine, quincunx POF.

In Davison, the Vulkanus/Saturn conjunction is exact, in the 1st.

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