posted September 12, 2008 05:44 PM            

I ask, because when I look at my natal chart between me and my family (Mother, Father and Brother) there are many contacts which lead me to believe that we shared more...uh...romantic connections in another lifetime...

posted September 12, 2008 06:19 PM              

it could be - remember always that when we talk about the Soul Family we all have,we talk about souls that in each encarnation plays an important role,important karmas to fulfill and that comprehends all kinds of love.

When you see asteroids Amor,Ceres,Union,etc this refers to Universal Love

Romantic Love you see through juno/venus/mars/valentine...

posted September 12, 2008 07:04 PM            

And when you do a Draconic synastry chart between two people, is it indicative to you of where they've been (already accomplished) or where they're going (need/choose to accomplish still)??

posted September 13, 2008 08:25 AM              

theoretically I would say it only works with the rulers in every natal chart.

Like Mercury is ruler of my 7th house, and so only MY ruler of 7th house will carry 7th house-themes into the synastry aspect.

BUT I realized, that in my synastries there are often a lot of aspects to the guy`s Mercury, more so than to mine.

But on the other hand in both case I have been thinking about their Mercury, was ruler of 4th and 7th house as well. So, it`s hard to say.

I`d keep an eye on this, but would focus more on constellations, tied to your rulerplanets.

The rules would naturally apply to the progressed charts as well; maybe they would even be felt more strongly, as the progressed charts signify where you are NOW.
Maybe you will even need those aspects in the progressions appearing as well, so the potential attraction, as symbolized by the natals, will find expression.

The Draconics relate as well to the past lives as to an ongoing soulcontract.
That is true for rulership as well as planets.

Diandra,
Thank you for the differentiation between universal and romantic love. I definitely agree.

posted September 13, 2008 02:58 PM            

In asking about family patterns in the natals/synastry I did understand that there are differences between romantic and universal love. I think I might have mis-phrased the question though.

If I am looking at a regular synastry chart between me and my mother, I will interpret anything 'romantic' differently than I would if doing a synastry chart between me and a partner. But in looking at the Draconics, I would assume that in the case of my mother and I, it is possible we were partners in a past life. I use this just as an example.

I realized that recently I was interpreting Draconic charts differently all the time. Sometimes I would look at the synastry with an eye for soul growth in this lifetime and other times I was seeing it exclusively as past life energy being brought into this life. I do realize that there is an inherent connection between the two, however I have not been totally clear on what I was seeing. If my Draconic Sun is in Scorpio, does that mean I am bringing that energy forth or becoming comfortable with that energy this time around?

So that's why I was curious about how to interpret them, since if I look at Draconics as being relevant to this life in terms of relationships, then house rulerships could also theoretically work this way. If they are exclusively past life histories, then it would make more sense to see current famiy members in positions that do not necessarily reflect their familial positions in this life.

posted September 24, 2008 12:46 PM            

Ok, so what if the planet aspects shared are complete shite but the asteriod aspects are oustanding?

posted January 25, 2009 06:14 PM              

personally I`d like a mix of all three categories.

If you`re in love with someone, I think aspects, which include the romance planets / asteroids might help very much.

For example, if there are only strong aspects which contain KARMIC and SOULMATE planets / asteroids (like for example Moon - Saturn), then you would be probably very close, but not romantically interested in each other.

But it depends on what you are looking for, really.
Aspects between only romance planets like Venus-Mars, Venus-Eros would probably be sizzling and hot, but maybe lacking the depth that could come with a Moon-Pluto-aspect that happens at the same time.

posted February 26, 2009 03:05 AM              

I want to give you one advice.

I am in the Forum with more languages, but at the moment I am not active there.
In the summer 2008 I was also in French language Forum, although my French is worse and worse; I just can’t find the right Forum to practice more French writing.
There was Brazilian woman, was married in France, divorced and now lives again in Brazil.
She has explained my Natal Chart and we became friends.
She wrote a book about Synastry in Portuguese and I have asked her, why not in French? She told me, that she is not that good to write book in French.
We were also in connection over email address.

Now advice to you:

Start and write book about Synastry. You know, that you are very good or better, you are excellent and can write book in German and English.

I have enough Astrology books in German, but they are nothing special. Do it, if you didn't do until now. I would be your first client (buy your book)

posted July 06, 2009 06:07 PM            

1. Romance:

- his Venus/Mars oppose my Sun;
- his Venus quincunx my Mars;
- opposed ACs;
- his DC ruler trine my Sun;
- his DC ruler square my AC;
- his AC ruler trine my AC;
- my DC ruler squares his Venus;
- my DC ruler trines his DC;
- my ruler of 5th sextiles his Mars;

2. Soulmates:

- his Neptune trine my Moon;
- his IC ruler conjunct my IC;
- my 12th ruler trine his IC ruler;
- my 12th ruler oppose his 8th ruler;
- my 8th ruler square his 8th ruler;
- my ruler of IC trine his 8th ruler;
- my ruler of IC square his 12th ruler;

3. Karma:

- my Saturn conjunct his Vertex/NN ruler;
- his Saturn oppose my SN ruler;
- his Saturn square my Vertex ruler;
- my AntiVertex ruler trine his SN ruler;

Total:

Romance - 10;
Soulmate - 7;
Karmic - 4;

posted September 12, 2014 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by darkdreamer:
Iīve been pondering about a method to classify the different aspects to get a clearer picture, what REALLY is happening in a relationship, and I`ve come up with something.

It`s not perfect, it`s not complete, it`s just a rough draft of what I`m thinking and what I think is important in synastry (donīt even bother to try to disagree with my use of rulers in synastry; it will be to no avail, I KNOW they work )

[b]1. Romance:

this implies there is romantic or sexual attraction, without so much "soulstuff" happening. We all know we can feel heavily drawn to someone, who is not our soulmate.

Aspects between:
Sun, Venus, Mars, ASC / DSC, ruler of 1st house, 5th house and 7th house

- here the person who is the DSC, ruler of 7th house or ruler of 5th house or even Venus will be the attracted one, who is drawn to the other one`s identity

(we could argue or discuss about Venus and Mars here: do we differentiate between man and woman and think Mars signifies the woman`s ideal man, or is Venus valid for both sexes? I don`t have a good answer to that one. But I know the DC, ruler of 7 and ruler of 5 work the way, that the person contributing those points / planets will be the attracted one).

2. Soulmates

here we have those connections that reach really deep into the soul, which is the reason I used the waterhouses for this. I also used Neptune and Pluto, even though they are outer planets, but they are natural rulers of 12th and 8th house AND Neptune is the higher octave of romantic Venus and Pluto is the higher octave of passionate Mars - such a beautiful symmetry.

aspects between:
Moon, Neptune, Pluto, IC, ruler of IC, ruler of 8th and 12th house

- I think if you have many aspects between those planets and points, this is a very strong hint towards you being soulmates of some kind (I am not talking of twinsouls though). But without any of the connections mentioned under ROMANCE, you will probably not become romantically involved.

3. Karma
Those are the connections that have something to do with your "lessons" and experiences you will make that lead you to growth.

aspects between Saturn, Vertex, NN, Vertex, ruler of NN and SN, ruler of Vertex and Antivertex

- I am using the rulers of Vertex and NN here, because they are an axis just like ASC - DSC or IC-MC.

I know I left some out like Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus, MC, 2nd, 6th, 3rd and 11th and 9th house.

Well, those will probably relate more to the practical or intellectual side of a relationship, which is definitely important.

Well, pulling Saturn our of the karmic column, we could make something like:

social / practical:
aspects between Mercury, Saturn, MC, ruler of 2nd, 6th and 10th house (maybe also Venus here, because she is natural ruler of 2nd house).

intellectual:
aspects between Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus, ruler of 3rd, 9th and 11th house.

But put those into mental bracket, as I have not thought this through.

Now if you list the conjunctions and oppositions of these categories, you will see at a first glance where the emphasis lies. You can even see the difference for each person here.

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I especially liked the part where you differentiate between having soulmate markers, but no romance markers, which leads to great friendships I guess. And perhaps makes people remain very good friends after the romance is gone (when the romance aspects are not strong enough and fizzle out quickly)?