posted October 01, 2014 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:
The article resonates with my experiences. Not all of it though...

I have mars conjunct neptune nataly. I had it with my ex affair and have it with my latest affair of 5 years old. I have taken parts from the article which I find very true.

" Neptune to undermine Mars' initiative and self-confidence, in highly manipulative ways which frustrate the Mars person and fan anger... Mars cannot fight underwater and, when baited, prefers the efficacy of a simple punch or shouting match "

" Neptune may unconsciously undermine Mars' potency through subtle forms of rejection and evasiveness which keep Mars feeling uncertain
and confused. Neptune can thwart Mars' need for clear-cut action, asking Mars to make the decisions, and then sabotaging the results.

Or

Neptune may resort to sexual coyness and deceit, baffling Mars' cruder but
more honest approach to sexual matters. Neptune is adept at producing a
classic "Not tonight, but maybe tomorrow" script; Mars is refused, but
never directly, and the eager knight is kept hoping and waiting, 'increasingly furious
and frustrate..."

Just a couple of days ago, I was telling to a friend I should never have an affair with someone close to my age due to this aspect.

No matter I do, I can't pass through Neptune's deceitful ways....

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Well, the conjunction CAN have problems if it's afflicted. But again, energy is energy, and automatically banishing an aspect, or casting it in a bad light is just bad astrology in my opinion.

SOME asteroid linkages can be inherently negative, but again, it's all how you use it. And this astrologer's style -- as Nine put it -- just rubs me the wrong way. It seems so pretentious on top of being negative. I really appreciated Linda's knack for being practical and positive.

Now, as for avoiding a generation due to certain aspects -- THIS I get. I hardly find it coincidence most of the men I've dated were 2 years my junior, I married a man 7 years my senior, and my partner is 13 years my senior. The two men I dated who are my age gave a polarised experience. One was an immature jerk who grew up and became a clinical psycho who's working with OCD and Aspie kids. Very proud of him. The other will probably always be an emotional predator, and I wish him well only because it's miserable on both sides of that nightmare. I should've sent him my bill for therapy, though.

At any rate, their PLUTO on my SUN and URANUS on my MOON. No thanks. I appear to not be a fan of this. One URA-MOON is enough emotional volatility (or sociopathy, depending upon your flavour) for one relationship. VERY few know how to handle their SUN conjunct PLUTO constructively, and my soul-family who oddly enough, have this with me, have either done so, (one's even got it applying by 3º) or have it separating by 4º. I suppose that's enough to take 'the edge of'.

Conversely, the latest soul-sister to grace my presence is just as transdimensional as I am, and we bonded in a bizarrely instantaneous fashion. Especially bizarre for being schizo-spectrum introverts who are borderline anti-social. She's a 0º SUN-PLUTO. We call ourselves The Sun-Pluto Girls, and have fun being extremely extreme together in ways we're going to change the world and BLOW EVERYONE'S MINDS. It's a lot of fun. I'm the Tyler Durden to her Jack the Narrator.

posted October 01, 2014 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, the conjunction CAN have problems if it's afflicted. But again, energy is energy, and automatically banishing an aspect, or casting it in a bad light is just bad astrology in my opinion.

SOME asteroid linkages can be inherently negative, but again, it's all how you use it. And this astrologer's style -- as Nine put it -- just rubs me the wrong way. It seems so pretentious on top of being negative. I really appreciated Linda's knack for being practical and positive.

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I agree. Apart from mars conjunct neptune, with these 2 guys I also have moon opposite neptune... so the combination of two strengthens neptune's negative effects.

I don't know if I know anyone who has Sun conjunct Pluto but I have sun square pluto nataly... and these guys we have it in our synastry as well. Especially with the last one because he is very Plutonian there is too much power struggle and no I don't like it either...

Moon Uranus combination no experience so far.

posted October 01, 2014 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, the conjunction CAN have problems if it's afflicted. But again, energy is energy, and automatically banishing an aspect, or casting it in a bad light is just bad astrology in my opinion.

SOME asteroid linkages can be inherently negative, but again, it's all how you use it. And this astrologer's style -- as Nine put it -- just rubs me the wrong way. It seems so pretentious on top of being negative. I really appreciated Linda's knack for being practical and positive.

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I agree. Apart from mars conjunct neptune, with these 2 guys I also have moon opposite neptune... so the combination of two strengthens neptune's negative effects.

I don't know if I know anyone who has Sun conjunct Pluto but I have sun square pluto nataly... and these guys we have it in our synastry as well. Especially with the last one because he is very Plutonian there is too much power struggle and no I don't like it either...

Moon Uranus combination no experience so far.

posted October 02, 2014 12:55 PM            

I've seen it in manifest in rape and sexual abuse (usually with Mars being the perpetrator). I've also seen it with Mars viewing Neptune as "weak." For me, when I am Mars and someone else is Neptune, there is often an indescribable feeling of faint "disgust." I might view them needy or annoyingly fragile.

My mom and dad have this aspect (He's Mars, she's Neptune). They have been divorced for several years now. He ALWAYS seemed disgusted with her and acted as though she were so needy. Her affection was never welcome, and he would always make fun of her for being too emotional.

posted October 05, 2014 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Wow. That astrologer seems so pretentious and completely off the mark. My apologies, but I didn't grok -- or agree -- with that at all. NEPTUNE is not secretly longing to submit or even remotely powerless. I almost feel like this individual is projecting unrealised sexual fantasies into their astrology. Wow. Bad.

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THANK YOU!

I'm so glad I'm not the only who sees their interpretation as being off. I didn't resonate with it at all. Although I do feel I might be the one more in control.

But this aspect can be very beautiful and dreamlike, depending of the individuals' state of being and if they have any personal baggage/issues or not.
Etheric love-making is how I would describe Mars/Neptune in a nutshell.
Neptune is the higher octave of Venus afterall, it represents love of a higher frequency, a love that is more pure and soulful rather than superficial (Venus).
Put Mars (sex, physicality) together with Neptune (soulful love) and you get magic

posted October 05, 2014 08:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
wheresthemoon.... Do they have conjunction, square, or opposition?

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posted October 05, 2014 08:18 PM            

All wheresthemoon said but we both love it.

posted October 05, 2014 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
My Mars Trine Her Neptune.

All wheresthemoon said but we both love it.

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posted October 05, 2014 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
So you agree it can have that effect?

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Hero/Damsel in distress dynamic.

I had this with a male friend and I admired him.

posted October 05, 2014 10:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
[b] So you agree it can have that effect?

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Hero/Damsel in distress dynamic.

I had this with a male friend and I admired him.

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posted March 24, 2015 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
I'm sure this aspect has romantic things to offer (Mars offers Neptune protection and strength, Neptune offers Mars support and sensitivity or romantic "dreaminess"), but I have more often seen it manifest in a very negative way, especially with harsher aspects.

I've seen it in manifest in rape and sexual abuse (usually with Mars being the perpetrator). I've also seen it with Mars viewing Neptune as "weak." For me, when I am Mars and someone else is Neptune, there is often an indescribable feeling of faint "disgust." I might view them needy or annoyingly fragile.

My mom and dad have this aspect (He's Mars, she's Neptune). They have been divorced for several years now. He ALWAYS seemed disgusted with her and acted as though she were so needy. Her affection was never welcome, and he would always make fun of her for being too emotional.

Of course, this is the worst, cruelest manifestation, and the way a Mars/Neptune aspect is handled has everything to do with the individual personalities of the people involved...but this is how I've seen it manifest personally.

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