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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted October 24, 2014 04:05 PM
  
Mir, I'm truly fascinated! It is amazing and as I suspected, can't wait to check charts for that.Both your aspects are..... 
I find this very romantic!  What he said, what you said, and your aspects! 
You know how much I love biquintile and how romantic antiscia are :heaaaaaaaaaaaaaart: lol I would love to see a drawing for that BQ pattern, I think you should keep something like that ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
mir
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posted October 24, 2014 04:38 PM
Yea.. I'm also pretty flabbergasted haha and this BANG/DONG/TJANG at that moment.. it all falls at its place finally~! Completely related to that natal Sun/Sun Bi-quintile N.B.!;- nSun/nSun Bi-quintile (0'01/2 literally)
- pMoon/pMoon Bi-quintile (0'17 appl. - his Moon is a bit quicker)
- his pMoon appl. Bi-quintile my nSun (2)
- my pMoon appl. Bi-quintile his nSun (2) AND.. even my pMoon exactly antiscian conj my nSun
+ .. his pMoon exactly antiscian conj his nSun!! Yea... m i r a c l e .. that's how it feels! So there's probably something more going on that just one progressed biggie hehe. And we have to look at solstice conjunctions from now on (well, I already did a bit).. and take a MUCH deeper look at the Sun and the Moon! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 24, 2014 04:42 PM
I always suspected the antiscia to be important, but am glad you confirmed that now. And of course Sun and Moon. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 24, 2014 04:45 PM
Funny enough, when Mr Sag and me first met, he was having pr Sun exactly conjunct his n Venus, and my n Mars was on the antiscion (it is of course always on the antiscion of his Venus). IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted October 24, 2014 05:12 PM
All, right, just a quick look and...awe!First thing first, progressions for our meeting: my pMoon 23 Cap
his pMoon 22 Aries as you know already, one of our strongest synastric feature is the Moon/Moon square on my angles. so...a replica of this! I haven't even noticed that until now! and of course, added to the perpetual Sun/Sun opp.
but that's not all, ladies and gents
my pMoon 23 Cap that day
his natal Mars 7 Gem
(contra-antiscia) EXACT his pMoon 22 Aries
my natal Venus 6 Virgo
already separating antiscia, but still a nice touch, me thinks ------------------
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mir
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posted October 24, 2014 05:29 PM
Wowww crrrrazy.. yea that's what I mean ^^!Let's look further ladies !! ps; that makes the Compo pMoon at 7,5 pisces Lee! (we had the Compo pMoon at 10 pisces) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 24, 2014 05:49 PM
LOL Our pr composite Moon was in Pisces, too. 6 degree Pisces conj. Psyche actually and in a trine to Scorpio-Mars Now, p VEnus has entered Pisces some time ago (in december 2012, when I felt a very clear shift suddenly).
But it will take some time until she comes into orb for trining pMars, for now they are 7 degrees apart.
in 2016 pr Moon will be on the pr Venus/Mars-mp, and making a GT with Venus and Mars, from 8 Cancer.
In january 2019 pMoon will be opposite pSun; pVenus will still be 3 degrees from a trine to pMars though.
However what I did not think of, wait a moment, gotta check something. In june 2018 pVenus will be on the exact antiscion of nMars.
But the trine between pVenus and pMars will come into 2 degree orb in spring 2020, so some time until then.
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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 25, 2014 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by mir:
Well, it’s already there.. but the more it moves to january 2016 the more palpable it becomes. But since your Mars is a pretty fast mover… yea.. I very much suspect that we have to take that also into account.And indeed… why the hell NOT~!
Mir, I have been so stupid! Around the time the pMars-nVenus trine fades, my friggin pVenus will be ~2deg applying to trine his nSun! How could I have missed this?! I was blinded that my pVenus is in Gemini, well it will go into Cancer in 3-4 years and his Sun is 0-1 deg Scorpio (I don't have tob). So we're having the big pVenus-nSun trine that everyone is raving about. It will be exact around the same time pSun conjuncts my nVenus and SA Venus conjuncts his nSun (he had the progression but apparently did not do the trick). I don't know if I should laugh or cry, lol. We're having pSun trine nSun after that, so we're well into 2020s by then. Holy sh*t!! ------------------
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mir
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posted October 25, 2014 12:56 PM
Lol that sounds great DM ^^! And the timing with your own pSun/pVenus sounds promising. I have that also now and then, not noticing a still out-of-sign progressed biggie...______________________________________
Guys, I have to correct something (in fact, I wish I had done every case with more attention to the Sun and the Moon) about George Clooney and his new wife Amal Alamuddin.
I didn't saw much when the spark in 2013 caught on between them. Except for 2x a sextile (V/M and S/V).
But looking at the Sun and the Moon I suspect this was the real thing that brought them together. a BEAR HUG! Unfortunately we don't know her birth-time but if we take 12 NOON her pSun/pMoon midpoint differs 2 degrees from his pSun/pMoon midpoint in making an opposition, so opposite/conjunct MIDPOINTS.
Also, her planets surround or hug his'.
Finding the underlying DW-aspects is in this case very difficult because we don't have her birth-time. Well, in fact it's ALWAYS very difficult to pinpoint the exact minute of the Bear Hug (the moment that the pSun/pMoon midpoints are *exactly* conj/opp) and see which aspects comes out. This because the progressed Moons differ not THAT much in speed.. so it's pretty painstaking work. But maybe it's also not that important.. in fact, 10 min. difference can mean a switch from a 40 aspect to a 45 aspect. Maybe all aspects count during a tight progressed Bear Hug. And I have no idea for how long such a Hug is active in the progressions. IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted October 25, 2014 01:34 PM
I don't understand this Bear Hug talk.  ------------------
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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 25, 2014 01:39 PM
Mir and all you guys, why do you think people stay together for decades? They can't possibly have trine after trine, no? Some lucky ones out there will have a progressed planet go retro and because of the slow movement, their aspects last longer. But.. still not decades. They're bound to have some p-squares too, no? Yet.. they stick together. ------------------
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mir
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posted October 26, 2014 04:04 AM
Focussing on the Sun and Moon only now..I'm like.. WTF!!!! is this really happening? I feel like I found jesus or something haha.
HOW could I've been so *B L I N D* ?
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It has everything to do with progressed cycles DM!! I suspect even that Sun/Moon cycles are THE cycles saying it all! But we have to research more.. still in its infancy I would say!
NINE.. you were sooo right!! (well, connections with these specific cycles keep running.. in one way or another.. that's my finding! - eeeey but I'm not talking about the eternal love with ONE person.. that's such bULlll ) IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted October 26, 2014 04:24 AM
MIR, I am similarly freaking out here too. In an attempt to follow your research steps, I calculated the p-Sun/Moon midpoint for the day Scorpio and I met (tomorrow is our anniversary, seems fitting). Now - YES, his TOB is unknown, I went for Noon with the calculations... but they were in OPPOSITION! Mine was ~20 Pisces, his was ~24 Virgo (depending on his TOB). I just calculated this and thought - I have to tell Mir! lol Is this the Bear Hug?!We were natally born during different Moon phases, but we were attuned then. We were both Disseminators when we met (that was my natal Moon phase, he is a Full Mooner). I do believe that it seems significant in some way. The distance in degrees between my pSun and my pMoon was almost the same as when I was born!
You know what I don't understand though.. how come pSun-nMoon aspects don't show up more often when couples start their relationship! Isn't it weird? I would have expected them to.
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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 26, 2014 04:30 AM
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Originally posted by mir:
eeeey but I'm not talking about the eternal love with ONE person.. that's such bULlll )
Oh come on, Mir, I know you're a romantic underneath! lol It's not bull at all, it is beautiful and magical!  ------------------
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mir
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posted October 26, 2014 04:43 AM
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MIR, I am similarly freaking out here too. In an attempt to follow your research steps, I calculated the p-Sun/Moon midpoint for the day Scorpio and I met (tomorrow is our anniversary, seems fitting). Now - YES, his TOB is unknown, I went for Noon with the calculations... but they were in OPPOSITION! Mine was ~20 Pisces, his was ~24 Virgo (depending on his TOB). I just calculated this and thought - I have to tell Mir! lol Is this the Bear Hug?!
You give me goosebumps... r e a l l y. THIS ^^ is what I see TIME~after~TIME...
Let me guess...
The pSun/pMoon midpoints are ONLY further applying until they will be exactly conjunct/opposite in about a decade, or 2?
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mir
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posted October 26, 2014 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Oh come on, Mir, I know you're a romantic underneath! lol It's not bull at all, it is beautiful and magical!
Yea.. tell that a Mars/NN aqua girl ;D We have to love the W O R L D ~  ~ ~ IP: Logged |
mir
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posted October 26, 2014 04:55 AM
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The pSun/pMoon midpoints are ONLY further applying until they will be exactly conjunct/opposite in about a decade, or 2?
I even suspect that you can find his birth-time like that... See when it all comes together during a progressed Composite New Moon! (but to be clear; when the pSun/pMoon midpoints are *exactly* conjunct/opposite is not necessarily at the EXACT same time as a progressed Composite New Moon exact) I had that feeling when looking at the Clooney-case also.. Amal must be born in the late evening! IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted October 26, 2014 06:24 AM
They are separating. His pSun and pMoon are much faster than mine. My pSun moves 58 minutes/year, his 1 deg 1 minute.. His pMoon is 1 whole degree faster than my Moon.. So my p-midpoint was left behind. It was probably exact-ish when we met, because the encounter was pretty thunder-like, more to him than me (it just hit me WHY - his nVenus is at 22/23 VIRGO!! My Eros as at 20 Pisces - planets trump asteroids  ). That means he is born early in the morning. But.. it's all speculation right now. It won't be hard to find his birth time, he is open to these things. But I have to write him back and can't do that.. until mid-November. Ahhh, you're killing me, Mir. Your Aqua Mars/NN must square my little Tau Venus, lol. What degree are they? Composite is nowhere near a New Moon, I'm afraid. It was Crescent when we met, now it's First Quarter. We're not aligned anymore either, I'm a Last Quarter now, he's still a Disseminator. But I can take some comfort in knowing our first meeting was.. special. 
EDIT: Realized something else though. My pMoon is about to conjunct my n-Sun/Moon midpoint! His pMoon either did, or is about to do the same! 
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LeeLoo2014
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posted October 26, 2014 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
We have to love the W O R L D ~ ~ ~
What is this, "Imagine" ? I just LUUUUUVV how this thread is going ------------------
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mir
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posted October 26, 2014 05:21 PM
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They are separating.
His pSun and pMoon are much faster than mine. My pSun moves 58 minutes/year, his 1 deg 1 minute.. His pMoon is 1 whole degree faster than my Moon.. So my p-midpoint was left behind. It was probably exact-ish when we met, because the encounter was pretty thunder-like, more to him than me (it just hit me WHY - his nVenus is at 22/23 VIRGO!! My Eros as at 20 Pisces - planets trump asteroids ). That means he is born early in the morning. But.. it's all speculation right now.
OK, that’s interesting. Well, suppose it was an exact midpoint-to-midpoint alignment (conj/opp) during that meeting. Then we now have to find out IF it was a BEAR HUG (I’ll try to make u a bit more familiar with this BH). So, that’s why I need the SIGNS and approx DEGREES of both your pSuns and pMoons for that moment. Namely, the BIG question here now would be; Did they *HUG* each other? OR: did your planets fall in-between his’ OR vice versa? And the second question then would be; WHAT were the underlying DW’s of that Bear Hug? Namely; A BH always consists of a SAME-aspect DW. But it would be interesting to know IF there was a VALID (minor) aspect underneath.
(u can wait with it until you have his TOB) Another thing; WHEN we see pSun/pMoon midpoints walk/run conjunct or opposite we will always see (if I’m not mistaken) the SAME or the OPPOSITE phase occur in each progressed natal (next to the same-aspect DW). The more both midpoints will separate the less synchronous those phases will walk. BUT the same phase will still occur for a long time.. as the prog. Moons usually don’t differ that much in speed.
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It won't be hard to find his birth time, he is open to these things. But I have to write him back and can't do that.. until mid-November. Ahhh, you're killing me, Mir. Your Aqua Mars/NN must square my little Tau Venus, lol. What degree are they?
Well we have the time ^. But first I’m gonna kill u again as I needed a sleeping pill after all this enervating talk last night lol … What a *TIMING*! (u’ll see why)
My Mars 19’31 Aqua
My Venus 29’51 Cancer (my Mars/Venus midpoint at 9’41 Taurus!) Get it?
My natal Sun/Moon phase is a first quarter, Moon 99 deg ahead of the Sun.
My prog Sun/Moon phase is a Last quarter now, by 81 deg approaching the Sun. (lol look at that ^ 99 + 81 = 180) quote:
EDIT: Realized something else though. My pMoon is about to conjunct my n-Sun/Moon midpoint! His pMoon either did, or is about to do the same!
See that! ^^ There are more AMAZING alignments between Sun and Moon only than just the things we talk about here
To talk the same language.. (I still don’t know what disse…. Moon is hehe) ;
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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 27, 2014 12:40 AM
Ah, Mir.. I think I understand now about the Bear Hug. No, they weren't hugging, they were pointing in opposite directions (my Sun 13 Taurus or around there, Moon 26 Cap; his Sun 3 Sag, Moon 9-12 Cancer for the tob I went for. I don't remember the exact degrees and cannot check right now but you get the picture.. no hugs ). But if I understood it right, can a Bear Hug happen with opposite mp? From how I imagined, it's more likely the conjunction of the mp. It's still kinda nice about the alignments though. Even without the hug (I imagine if we would have had a hug, we would've been more determined to make something out of our encounter). So it's all cool. Haha, your Mars squares my Venus and your Venus squares my Mars (and Pluto )! haha We must have lovely progressions though! lmao. Your V/M mp is conj my POF and my own V/M mp! LOL Look at all that sexual energy between us omg! And oh! Oh! I think YOU and I have the Bear Hug! If I understood it correctly, please confirm. Because my Mars is 28 Aries and Venus 18 Taurus. SO your Venus and Mars are hugging mine?? Damn, why can't I have THAT with a guy? lol Preferably one that I am crazy about. Meh.. all this waiting Aries no likey. The Disseminating Moon is a Waning Gibbous. I stopped calling it that because everyone was calling it a Disseminating Moon lmao. It truly does fit me though. ------------------
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mir
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posted October 27, 2014 01:20 AM
Lol looking a little bit deeper into that Fraser & Pinter SQUARE couple and we see THIS that january '75;- His progressed Sun in a 146 degree angle to her natal Moon
- Her progressed Sun in a 146 degree angle to his natal Moon (that's ^ just a matter of about 0'12 minutes difference! In both cases the pSuns are AHEAD of the nMoons by 146) NO idea what to make of a 146 degree angle, but ofcourse, that's not exactly the mindblowing thing here. The fact that their pSuns forever make the same angle to their nMoons *IS*.
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also;
- her pMoon in a trine to his nSun (11 deg)
- his pMoon in a trine to her nSun (9 deg)
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mir
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posted October 27, 2014 01:53 AM
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Ah, Mir.. I think I understand now about the Bear Hug. No, they weren't hugging, they were pointing in opposite directions (my Sun 13 Taurus or around there, Moon 26 Cap; his Sun 3 Sag, Moon 9-12 Cancer for the tob I went for. I don't remember the exact degrees and cannot check right now but you get the picture.. no hugs
Oow this is definitely a HUG! Your planets surround his' so, first you get your Taurus-Sun which HUG *his Cancer & Sag* and then there's at-the-end your Cap! His' signs are simply falling *in-between* your signs. HUG! And yes, an opposition does count as much!
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Haha, your Mars squares my Venus and your Venus squares my Mars (and Pluto )! haha We must have lovely progressions though! lmao. Your V/M mp is conj my POF and my own V/M mp! LOL Look at all that sexual energy between us omg! And oh! Oh! I think YOU and I have the Bear Hug! If I understood it correctly, please confirm. Because my Mars is 28 Aries and Venus 18 Taurus. SO your Venus and Mars are hugging mine??
Yea lol haha THAT's what I mean! BUT... I'm not sure! And now I finally have the chance to ask CERI about this .. is this a BEAR HUG case?? OR; is this a case of hugging planets? I Always assumed NOT.. but.. why would this case be less important than a BEAR HUG? I mean, the underlying geometry is the same.. I'm wondering about cases like these for more than a year! So CERI, if u read this; Person A;
Venus 18 Taurus
Mars 28 Aries Person B;
Venus 29 Cancer
Mars 19 Aqua HUG, or not? (the midpoints are conjunct so no need for calculation) IP: Logged |
kaianna
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posted October 27, 2014 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by mir:
Yea I will honestly think about that ^, I promise
But FIRST this (my new discovery!) ;
WT….
I looked at that very special first moment when it was DANG BOEM KLATSSS..
LOL.. I never looked at that u know.. (our pVenus/pMars conj at 1 deg appl. was all I ever saw LOL) Look at THIS!; My progressed Moon was SOLSTICE conjunct my natal Sun, by 0’02!! His progressed Moon was SOLSTICE conjunct his natal Sun, by 0’16!!
Isn’t that ^^^ HUHHHH??? Yea.. it was a MIRROR .. a reflection of everything! He even said to me that first night; “I know you will never leave me”! (after which I needed to think for a moment as I didn’t want to give a false answer, and so honestly replied “yea you’re right, I will never leave u” (turned out it was the best he ever said to me haha)
Crazy really.
And with that… ^
his pMoon in an applying BI-quintile to my nSun `by 2 my pMoon in an applying Bi-quintile to his nSun by 2 (difference in both Bi-quintile degrees ^ 0’17 min - which makes ofcourse the pMoons ALSO in a BI-quintile by 0'17 at-that-time - so that was ONE BIG BI-quintile pattern back then!)
WELL.. we have a Sun/Sun Bi-quintile EXACT in our natal-synastry~!
what is this solstice that you speak of? lol IP: Logged |
margym0o
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posted October 27, 2014 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
Well, I meant just the same wheels but then with YOUR progressed against HIS natal and also HIS progressed against YOUR natal.. just like Lee did in her second post on page 1. You will get 2 wheels then.
Here are the wheels My natal (inside)/his progressed:
 My progressed (inside)/his natal:
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