posted October 17, 2014 04:16 PM            

I can't help but frown at the similarities with Mr. Cap (same Mercury and Venus, in the same spot; same Asc, diff degrees; same Cap Jup (they are 12 years apart) but in diff degrees; oh yeah, he also put 4 planets in my 12th! Sag Moon where his Sag Mars is; similar stellium at similar degrees and also in the 4th in composite - we lived together btw; they even have the same initial..). I seem to stick to some placements, goodness knows why.

posted October 17, 2014 04:23 PM            

Your pMoon was applying to square your nMoon by 4 degrees, so it would have been exact 4 months later.

his pMoon was caught between an oppostion to his nSun/pSun, which might have created some sort of Vortex there. It was just 2 months before being on the balance point between those two. Now Ido not even know if that means something, but I notice that. lol

I also noticed in the last days looking at progressed charts that the resonance-aspects, especially Moon-Moon, seems to frequently come up when the other has Sun-Moon. Maybe it is just coincidence, but I keep an eye on that.

Your pMoon had just crossed his pASC and trined his pVenus - of course she is a quick mover, but a great trigger at that.
Something was being brought into manifestation.

posted October 17, 2014 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
your pr c-Moon was applying to an opposition to n c-Sun by 5 degrees, this would have been exact 5 months later.

Your pMoon was applying to square your nMoon by 4 degrees, so it would have been exact 4 months later.

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Yes, but we didn't meet 4 months later.. 22 June is when the relationship started, we met ~10 days earlier.. I have the FMC somewhere. So we hooked up FAST, this wasn't a slow development. We.. erm.. "consumated" the relationship a little later, though. But COME ON! All that, pointing to.. that?! Wtf? I also saw after I posted his pMars was opp my nVenus But it really wasn't about the sex.. we wanted to get married and be together forever.. (our DC rulers were conjunct.. OOS but still)

posted October 17, 2014 04:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Yes, but we didn't meet 4 months later.. 22 June is when the relationship started, we met ~10 days earlier.. I have the FMC somewhere. So we hooked up FAST, this wasn't a slow development. We.. erm.. "consumated" the relationship a little later, though. But COME ON! All that, pointing to.. that?! Wtf? I also saw after I posted his pMars was opp my nVenus But it really wasn't about the sex.. we wanted to get married and be together forever.. (our DC rulers were conjunct.. OOS but still)

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Well the Mars-Venus-progression is HOT. For SURE. lol

posted October 17, 2014 04:35 PM            

Angles seem to work better in fine tuning the timing part methinks.

I need to sleep. GN!

posted October 17, 2014 04:36 PM            

But it makes sense for separated to have gathered enough momentum for the action itself.

posted October 17, 2014 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW his progressed Sun/Moon-mp fell onto your progressed DESC EXACT (by square)

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Funny, I also noticed my pAsc was conj my Sun-Moon midpoint too. Did not look at the prog ones.. too lazy to do the math lol.

posted October 17, 2014 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
You're right about the angles.. my pMoon was on his Asc. His pVertex was on my Sun. The p comp Asc was trine my Sun too.

Angles seem to work better in fine tuning the timing part methinks.

I need to sleep. GN!

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Yes, I think angles do thta.

posted October 17, 2014 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Funny, I also noticed my pAsc was conj my Sun-Moon midpoint too. Did not look at the prog ones.. too lazy to do the math lol.

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posted October 17, 2014 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
So his pSun/Moon-mp was on your natal one? Wow!

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Idk, my natal one is 21 Aqua.. I think they were.. square?

posted October 17, 2014 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There is a strong possibility, based on what I've seen, that the action itself takes place in the separating phase. For some in applying, for some with the exact aspect, for some in separating. Still a mystery why the difference.

But it makes sense for separated to have gathered enough momentum for the action itself.

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posted October 17, 2014 04:45 PM            

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I also noticed in the last days looking at progressed charts that the resonance-aspects, especially Moon-Moon, seems to frequently come up when the other has Sun-Moon. Maybe it is just coincidence, but I keep an eye on that.

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I think you mean pMoon to nMoon, right? I did not notice I had one..

I was hoping to figure out when I can have something like that again. Today it felt like it might never happen, sorry it's been a really emotional day over here. Good night.

posted October 17, 2014 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Ow no need for a new p-to-p chart.
It was an easy look. Just one exact pVenus/pMars sextile.
I can only hope there's some more in the p-to-n synastry charts for more future potential.
But I was also wondering if this was *already* a relationship? I heard Margy talk about 'partner' so I guess it IS.. ?

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It is yes for just over 8 months now.

Based on that chart there isn't much to look forward to then?

posted October 17, 2014 04:48 PM            

Here's a few notes.
The famous pVenus-nSun situation is happening on both sides. His has already passed over my Sun(mine on 16TAU), mine is now approaching his(his on 2TAU). His pVenus was right on my nSun when I met him.

I feel that his pVenus going out of orb might be one of the things that is making me cool off on him. While it was in orb to my Sun, wow, I was crazy about him. Just completely starry-eyed in love, it was quite a hilarious thing to happen to a Moon/Uranus person. And very, very inconvenient. I was not expecting myself to react like that.

And just as his pVenus went out of orb for my nSun, my pVenus came in orb for his nSun. Funny, that.

Here's what's happening now:
- my pVenus is on his nSun in 3°
- my pMars is on his nMoon in 6°(his pSun currently on his nMoon)
- my pJuno is on his nSN in 7°(Juno is slow so maybe not so relevant)
- my pMoon is on his nAC in 10°

- his pMoon is on my nSN, then nSaturn in 8° and 15°.
- his pVenus is on my nMars in 8°
- his pMars is opposite my nVenus in 3°
- his pJuno is on my nJuno in 4°

I think an interesting Nodal thing going on is that his NN is separating from my Venus, and his SN is applying to my Juno. (nVenus conj. nNN)

posted October 17, 2014 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
^ but his pMars to her nVenus.. is a longgggg and strongggg one .. mars takes half a degree per year to pass.. so that's 4!! years to reach the peak on her nVenus.

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You're right.. it was applying by 2 degrees. We split after 3 years though.

And oh I know why all the Mars-Venus now.. He was my first. Idk how it slipped my mind.

posted October 17, 2014 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Leeloo you said that in " natal synastries/composites there are often signs of an "expiration date"". Would anything like that also be evident in the progressed charts? Or perhaps many aspects in the progressed together would indicate that. I seem to have a few - charts on previous page

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Astro Keen, it's very late here, I'll take a thorough look tomorrow (I would like to see the natal synastry/comp too, though). Perhaps Mir and Ceri can help too, they are better than me at progressions.

posted October 17, 2014 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
^ but his pMars to her nVenus.. is a longgggg and strongggg one .. mars takes half a degree per year to pass.. so that's 4!! years to reach the peak on her nVenus.

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posted October 17, 2014 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There is a strong possibility, based on what I've seen, that the action itself takes place in the separating phase. For some in applying, for some with the exact aspect, for some in separating. Still a mystery why the difference.

But it makes sense for separated to have gathered enough momentum for the action itself.

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Lee could be right here.

DM & mate didn't survive the pMars/nVenus opposition. BUT.. they came together during a tight separating S/V trine.... probably the V/M on itself wasn't strong enough...

what I'm trying to say is; tight separating S/V aspects are not to underestimate! (I've seen this too many times - coming together during one)

.. anyone an idea how pMars/nVenus opp. is rated in Westran's research list?

posted October 17, 2014 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Astro Keen, it's very late here, I'll take a thorough look tomorrow (I would like to see the natal synastry/comp too, though). Perhaps Mir and Ceri can help too, they are better than me at progressions.

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Anytime Leeloo. Have a good rest.

I'll bring the other post here, so it's in one place.

Starting with the ones with asteroids:

Our progressed synastry -
New Moons - mine at 18 Aries, his at 19 Pisces.

These aspects are verrrry interesting here:
p Sun square p Mercury DW - that says it all
p NN/p Moon DW - his Moon squares my NN !

My natal (inside) and his progressed:

His natal (inside) and my progressed:

Mir, would you be so kind as to cast your eye on these? Should I post the minimalist charts? After your break of course .

In a previous thread you had advised:

"There's also a pVenus/pVenus parallel applying which will be exact at the end of 2015.
The next outstanding and verrry binding progressed period will arise/start in aug. 2025;

- Your pVenus trine his pMars (by 2* appl.)

(this ^ is a great one for years)
- Your pVenus opp. his nSun
- Your pSun trine his nVenus
^ no gaps in between & spread over many years."

Is there anything else you could say or change? What could the pVenus/pVenus parallel applying at the end of 2015 indicate?

And here's the natal synastry:

Composite

posted October 17, 2014 10:31 PM            

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.. anyone an idea how pMars/nVenus opp. is rated in Westran's research list?

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Here the statistics;
http://www.positiveastrology.com/ANS.asp

Well, here we see that pMars/nVenus OPPOSITION has no special power. Even less it seems..