posted October 19, 2014 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Is this the guy who's gonna call in November?

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posted October 19, 2014 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mir:
[b] LOOK at thatttttt ^^!
Westran's research is full of couples who had this at their *START*..

That's why you often see semi-sextile or conjunct (same sign) Suns together. Because of their progressions that line up like this.

Interesting that you can already *feel* this separating S/V aspect... and another nice pVenus/nMars one waiting for u (next to the other S/V coming up now), hmm nice!

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I am actually hoping to end this relationship and get over it once and for all. The progressions are not looking optimistic for me moving on, do they. My Saturn's return is nearly done now and I'm looking at things in a much more realistic light, and I find many areas of my life in need of "fixing". Severing the ties in this relationship seems like one of the big ones.

Anyway, a little bit that I've learned about the nSun-pVenus aspect from experience - when I was the Sun, I was obsessed, infatuated, addicted. I NEEDED him to love me, it was essential for my self-worth, for my self-identity even. Now that I'm the Venus - eh, I can take it or leave it. I feel a lot more confident than I did as the Sun. And I also don't see what the big deal is, I'm a lot more relaxed. Though that could just be from going through the aspect once before and now being "older and wiser" so it's not getting me all that excited and anxious. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hmm interesting, I am the Sun now in a Sun-Venus-progression and I have the "it`s nice, but not compelling" feeling.

posted October 19, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Yes, the same sign and semi-sextiles in synastry do finally make sense if you take dynamic astrology in account, very very true.

I am actually hoping to end this relationship and get over it once and for all. The progressions are not looking optimistic for me moving on, do they. My Saturn's return is nearly done now and I'm looking at things in a much more realistic light, and I find many areas of my life in need of "fixing". Severing the ties in this relationship seems like one of the big ones.

Anyway, a little bit that I've learned about the nSun-pVenus aspect from experience - when I was the Sun, I was obsessed, infatuated, addicted. I NEEDED him to love me, it was essential for my self-worth, for my self-identity even. Now that I'm the Venus - eh, I can take it or leave it. I feel a lot more confident than I did as the Sun. And I also don't see what the big deal is, I'm a lot more relaxed. Though that could just be from going through the aspect once before and now being "older and wiser" so it's not getting me all that excited and anxious

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Ow yea.. this is def. interesting!

Libran, by how many degrees exactly is the 1st Sun/Venus separating now?
The other S/V is applying now by exactly 3 deg?

And do you mean by that 'take it or leave it' (also) HIS attitude?

posted October 19, 2014 01:00 PM            

Ive been wondering about this myself, who feels what more in prog synastry.

posted October 19, 2014 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hmm interesting, I am the Sun now in a Sun-Venus-progression and I have the "it`s nice, but not compelling" feeling.

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(The quote indeed didn't work here also ^^ - so I changed it to the below)

Ow yea.. this is def. interesting!

Libran, by how many degrees exactly is the 1st Sun/Venus separating now?
The other S/V is applying now by exactly 3 deg?

And do you mean by that 'take it or leave it' (also) HIS attitude?

I get the feeling that he's a bit in fear because of your personal growth.

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His Sun is at 2TAU, my pVenus at 29ARI, so applying by 3°.

By "take it or leave it", I mostly mean that I'm no longer ruled by this great anxiousness/obsession that was happening for me before. I've grown enough to know that he's not the only guy out there, you know? I have a choice, fate is not set in stone, you can just say no and move on. That option didn't seem possible while his pVenus was on my Sun in my H8.

He should be in fear, haha. I'm just joking. But I am essentially moving on from him. I used to think we'd spend our lives together, when I matured and felt ready for it. Well I have matured and I'm changing my mind. Shows you the power of pVenus-nSun, and how it fades when it goes out of orb.

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Idk guys.. I was the pVenus, he was pSun and I think I was the one more obsessed. lol

Ive been wondering about this myself, who feels what more in prog synastry.

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posted October 19, 2014 01:30 PM            

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Both people always feel it, but how each one accepts that energy into their life will depend on the individual charts. Which house was it for you?

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You mean natal, right? It was in my 5th -_- his 10th. Argh!! I hate to be the one who feels more.

posted October 19, 2014 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I feel like sharing something. Some time ago I decided to become open to the idea of entering a relationship when I turn 30 and guess what. On my bday pVenus will be on my DSC, exactly to the minute (assuming my TOB is correct). I will also have app pSun conjunct Vertex and pMoon approaching my IC. Somebody give me a time machine, I'm sooo curious.

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posted October 19, 2014 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b] Hmm interesting, I am the Sun now in a Sun-Venus-progression and I have the "it`s nice, but not compelling" feeling.

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That sounds extra intense!

For me this is happening in 2nd house, a house I do love, btw, in synastry at least.

His pVenus: 6°36 Aquarius
my pSun: 6°30 Aquarius

since my Sun is moving more quickly than his Venus (which had been retrograde and turned direct), this is actually an applying aspect.

It is also trine my natal DESC, and his pMars is conjunct my natal DESC

his pMars 6°34 Gemini
my nDESC 7°06 Gemini

posted October 19, 2014 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Well.. you're not yet in orb, LD. Sorry to burst your bubble but I think you're gonna get the feels again.

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You mean natal, right? It was in my 5th -_- his 10th. Argh!! I hate to be the one who feels more.

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posted October 19, 2014 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:

Wow, those are interesting progressions! Where will your Sun and Mars be?

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Sun - Aquarius, Mars - Gemini. Right, Mars! It will be in an applying conjunction to MC.

posted October 19, 2014 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:

There is power in knowing your feelings. People who hide them lose out. If it was in your 5th, yes, you would be looking at it from the 5th house perspective. And he would bring the Sun into that area of your life. Pretty powerful attraction indicator there.

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Gimme that Nooooo.gif too!

And I suppose our upcoming pVenus conj nVenus, happening in the same houses, is going to affect me more, again, right?

posted October 19, 2014 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
[b]Well.. you're not yet in orb, LD. Sorry to burst your bubble but I think you're gonna get the feels again.

Noooooooooo.gif

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posted October 19, 2014 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I'll keep an eye on Libra_dream the next couple of years ;D

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So will I, my Venus conjuncts her Sun, lol. I'm cheering for love over here!!!! Love must triumph!!

Sorry, my Venus is unaspected natally, whenever some poor soul's planets come close, it goes overboard with.. feelings. lol

posted October 19, 2014 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hmm interesting, I am the Sun now in a Sun-Venus-progression and I have the "it`s nice, but not compelling" feeling.

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That's strange, LD: I thought Venus was after the Sun.

posted October 19, 2014 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I feel like sharing something. Some time ago I decided to become open to the idea of entering a relationship when I turn 30 and guess what. On my bday pVenus will be on my DSC, exactly to the minute (assuming my TOB is correct). I will also have app pSun conjunct Vertex and pMoon approaching my IC. Somebody give me a time machine, I'm sooo curious.

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You must know something then

posted October 19, 2014 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You must know something then

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posted October 19, 2014 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Oh btw, the method LeeLoo posted is not right. I tried to make one for Bull too, but his prog day is towards the end. I tried putting in 15 June and his Sun, Mercury, Venus degrees are too early. Venus had changed signs (into LEO He's liking FIRE women again hahaha), but his chart still shows it at 29 Cancer. I tried 16 June, they're too late.. If I mess with the time, it changes Asc and houses. Boohoo. I wanted to post the charts and ask you guys if you think we can have another shot.

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That's weird, I had no other case like that. Did you use the modified date? (x days after his birth, with x being his age?)

posted October 19, 2014 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
If you'd like to see my progressions for that time, the chart is on page 6.

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I'll do it Caps...awwww he's so cute!

posted October 20, 2014 06:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That sounds extra intense!

For me this is happening in 2nd house, a house I do love, btw, in synastry at least.

His pVenus: 6°36 Aquarius
my pSun: 6°30 Aquarius

since my Sun is moving more quickly than his Venus (which had been retrograde and turned direct), this is actually an applying aspect.

It is also trine my natal DESC, and his pMars is conjunct my natal DESC

his pMars 6°34 Gemini
my nDESC 7°06 Gemini

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H2 can be quite influential in synastry. It will depend on the condition of it, of course. What's that house like for you and are there any oriental chart resonances in your synastry?

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Sun - Aquarius, Mars - Gemini. Right, Mars! It will be in an applying conjunction to MC.

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Gimme that Nooooo.gif too!

And I suppose our upcoming pVenus conj nVenus, happening in the same houses, is going to affect me more, again, right?

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posted October 20, 2014 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I'll keep an eye on Libra_dream the next couple of years ;D

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
So will I, my Venus conjuncts her Sun, lol. I'm cheering for love over here!!!! Love must triumph!!

Sorry, my Venus is unaspected natally, whenever some poor soul's planets come close, it goes overboard with.. feelings. lol

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's strange, LD: I thought Venus was after the Sun.

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posted October 20, 2014 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:

In my view, the dynamics go both ways. The Sun wants to recieve love from the Venus, the Venus wants to bask in acknowledgement from the Sun. I suppose if you're trying to quantify the energies expended, whoever needs to develop the energy of their natal position more would be more invested. So, if you're the Venus, but you feel secure in your femininity, attractiveness, ability to love etc. you wouldn't be so eager to be accepted by the Sun. If you're insecure in your Venusian side and need to develop it, you'd put a lot of energy into solarizing it, through the other person. That's where my opinion stands at this time, anyway.

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