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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 20, 2014 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's weird, I had no other case like that. Did you use the modified date? (x days after his birth, with x being his age?)


I did.. but like I said, his progression day was towards the end. It will work when he will be closer to his bday.

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posted October 20, 2014 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by libran_dream:

If you're aware of the dynamics of things, they can only affect you as much as the amount of power you give to them. There's no need for this oneupsmanship in relationships - who feels more and who less... It's not a contest. And if you allow it to become one, uh. It's not great.
Whose pVenus is coming to whose nVenus? The pVenus person should appreciate the natural beauty of the nVenus person in this stage.

He and I have lots of Pluto and lots of 12H, things have been like that, at least in the past. Neither of us did vulnerability. I changed since then though, significantly, I would like to think. But it might not be enough still.

It's my pVenus, again.

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posted October 20, 2014 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by libran_dream:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b] That sounds extra intense!


For me this is happening in 2nd house, a house I do love, btw, in synastry at least.

His pVenus: 6°36 Aquarius
my pSun: 6°30 Aquarius

since my Sun is moving more quickly than his Venus (which had been retrograde and turned direct), this is actually an applying aspect.

It is also trine my natal DESC, and his pMars is conjunct my natal DESC

his pMars 6°34 Gemini
my nDESC 7°06 Gemini



Lots of energy there. How will the progressions look like in the future?

H2 can be quite influential in synastry. It will depend on the condition of it, of course. What's that house like for you and are there any oriental chart resonances in your synastry?

.[/B][/QUOTE]


2nd house is very much loved by me in my synastries. My Moon is in 2nd house, as ruler of 8th, though in Aquarius. The 2nd house cusp is in capricorn, with Saturn in Cancer in 8th house.


As for future progressions.

hid p Jupiter conjunct my pVenus 4a

his p Mars tirne my p Sun exact

his p Uranus trine my p Venus 1a
his p Saturn trine my p Venus 2a

his pSun square my n Sun 5a

his p Mars conjunct my n DESC exact

his p Venus trine my n DESC exact

his p Mar sopposite my n Mars 1s

his n Venus conjunct my p Sun 6 s (this was peaking when we first met)

his n Venus opposite my p Moon 2a

his n Sun conunct my p Sun 3a

his n Mars trine my p ASC 3a


I don´t know his exact birthtime, but it is possible
my oriental Sun is conjunct his natal Moon my oriental Venus opposes his natal Uranus.
My oriental Moon opposes his natal Neptune.
my oriental Pluto also conjuncts his natal Venus.


Interestingly in the Dracos my Draco Sun is possibly conjunct his natal Moon as well.

Plus

his Draco Pluto conjuncts my tropical Venus
my Draco Pluto conjuncts his tropical Venus

and

his Draco Venus opposes my tropical Uranus
my Draco Venus opposes his tropical Uranus


Both reflecting back to the tropical synastric aspect of

his Pluto square my Venus
my Uranus square his Venus

I don´t feel any attraction to him (romantically or sexually I mean). He`s a nice guy, but that`s it.

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posted October 20, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
My future progressions. Do you see anything interesting?


Cappy, Moon appl to Mars, then to Venus. When will the Moon be conjunct your Sun? (5 deg appl till 5 drg sep)

Also, could you post a synastry with you inside, your progressions outside?

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posted October 20, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 20, 2014 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir, Ceri, guys!

Okay so since I'm analyzing past relationships re progressed synastry, I stumped on one, an itch I had the occasion to scratch but refused to at the time, then later changed my mind but it was too late. At the time I was having my pVenus squaring his nVenus. I was attracted and repulsed at the same time. What do you guys make of this aspect?

Also, it seems now my pMars is coming into orb (~1 deg applying now) to trine his nVenus - the same nVenus I squared last time. I probably felt some hints of this back then too, it was 2 years ago, but they were too faint I suppose. So my question is, do you think this aspect in itself is strong enough to.. produce a mutual attraction feeling? Because he's not relationship material, but might be key to solving some stuff on my end and would like to take the opportunity this time.

Back then, we were also having his pVenus applying to conj my nSaturn (it had conjuncted pSaturn) and my pVenus was applying to trine his pPluto (I am only now trining his nPluto btw, I think it's exact-ish).

We didn't have any Sun-Venus, well his pVenus is 10 deg applying to oppose my pSun but clearly this will take years, which I'm not willing to give and obviously it isn't felt now. Like I said, it was an itch, not a love story. But periodically he pops in my mind too, I guess my pMars is doing its thing.

This dude I am not going to message though, despite the Merc retro. I need to prepare first.

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posted October 21, 2014 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so that's another guy again ^ haha.

Well, I already read what you wrote on that other thread where some replies disappeared .. but I recall most, so no need to do it again. I just wanted to say.. that pSun/pVenus trine was already a decade out-of-orb (with 2 separating).. (you said 'you Venus' didn't feel as much as him, or something like it but you really loved his whole being etc..)

Ok, so this guy is another one (yea, let's be clear on that.. I see too many pass your road lol)

It's great that pMars/nVenus trine for solving things or whatever..! (which is ofcourse the effect of mutual attraction) No coincidence again that THE time is now.....

Ps, about that Venus/Venus square.. I can't describe it better than u,.. repulsion and attraction at the same time.. not overwhelming by a lack of other biggies. The *way* it went... first no, after which a yess .. but then it was too late, that's IT for me.

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posted October 21, 2014 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappyrella,

I see you have important progressions here:

Moon transits IC
Sun transits Vertex in Aqua 6th
Venus transits DSC
Juno transits Uranus 6th ruler/Vertex ruler
Mercury transits Venus
and the nodal superposition.

Because you're a Virgo ASC, my guess is you're about to have an important meeting for your future and your ASC and I think it's a woman, a friend. The meeting is related to 9th house issues (abroad, studies etc.) Maybe a woman will facilitate this important 9th house connection already present in your permanent charts.

The Yod that you see there is happening now, is about to happen

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posted October 21, 2014 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Ok, so that's another guy again ^ haha.

Well, I already read what you wrote on that other thread where some replies disappeared .. but I recall most, so no need to do it again. I just wanted to say.. that pSun/pVenus trine was already a decade out-of-orb (with 2 separating).. (you said 'you Venus' didn't feel as much as him, or something like it but you really loved his whole being etc..)

Ok, so this guy is another one (yea, let's be clear on that.. I see too many pass your road lol)

It's great that pMars/nVenus trine for solving things or whatever..! (which is ofcourse the effect of mutual attraction) No coincidence again that THE time is now.....

Ps, about that Venus/Venus square.. I can't describe it better than u,.. repulsion and attraction at the same time.. not overwhelming by a lack of other biggies. The *way* it went... first no, after which a yess .. but then it was too late, that's IT for me.


Yeah, it is another guy. They're all from the past though, there's nobody in the present. If there would be, I would only post about one. This one I have never dated, it was a crush and made me an.. indecent offer . Since I am single and it doesn't look like any one of my options is reliable.. Might as well have some..fun. Lol

So do you think he would also be interested? We have one year until the aspect becomes exact.

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posted October 21, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oow yes ^ , I definitely think so.
If it's in one year exact, it's now about 0,5 deg applying.. THE time!

I will keep an eye on u also

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posted October 21, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha thanks Mir but sadly I have horrible luck in love, your surveillance might in the end prove fruitless.

It is ~1 deg applying but I think my Mars moves kinda fast, it will become exact in the beginning of 2016. I already messaged him (why the hell not, what do I have to lose anyways) so I imagine it will take some more time until the attraction becomes palpable, right?

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posted October 21, 2014 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir, I have an interesting finding for you.

A couple with Sun and Venus in Pisces (her) Sun and Venus in Gem (him). They have a good synastry and they also have Sun sq Sun and Venus sq Venus in synastry.

What happens with this double square, at least from now on, it becomes a perpetual double binovile in p synastry.

at this moment, in both their p charts, they both have Sun conj Venus. And this Sun Venus conjunction travels as a binovile in p synastry, becoming exact a couple of years from now and traveling as exact until app 2078 - 2080, when both Venuses begin to separate from the said Sun/Venus in their p natals. In 2080, pSun binovile pSun is still exact (80 precise), but pVenus begins to apply for a square (it's 83 by then) to the other pVenus.

What do you think? Is this interesting? I always wondered what happens to synastric Sun/Sun, Sun/Venus etc squares in progressions.

Do you think this binovile could be nice? I find the alignment to an exact binovile and then the fact that it travels exact for such a long time rather nice

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posted October 21, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It is ~1 deg applying but I think my Mars moves kinda fast, it will become exact in the beginning of 2016. I already messaged him (why the hell not, what do I have to lose anyways) so I imagine it will take some more time until the attraction becomes palpable, right?

Well, it’s already there.. but the more it moves to january 2016 the more palpable it becomes. But since your Mars is a pretty fast mover… yea.. I very much suspect that we have to take that also into account.

And indeed… why the hell NOT~!

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Lee, yes.. that sounds very interesting. I’m very inclined to make an exception to the progressed biggie rule here (IF the orbs are really mindblowing). I mean, that would be an amazing symmetry! So, if I understand it correctly, it’s a DW Bi-novile in the progressed synastry? (for ages). That would be an interesting case to follow Lee … it reminds me a bit of a Sun/Venus conjunction in the progressed composite, where the underlying geometry is in fact also completely amazing, irrespective of the degrees/aspects involved. I’m STILL not sure about its power (compo progr Sun/Venus conj)…. and IF that on itself would be enough without some other p-synastry biggies. I really HOPE to get some insight about this one day…

It reminds me also (btw) of a certain couple I mentioned once under one of your threads, where I made a progressed analysis - as I remembered Westran talking about a couple with a DW (natal-synastry) Sun/Venus square, which the guy in question prefered above a DW S/V trine he shared with a former partner. I found it funny that Westran recently replied under that thread to give the names of this couple (they’re famous I suppose). But you just walked past it and I didn’t want to expose him Shall I look for the names, to focus on this couple as an example? See how their progressions line up?

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posted October 22, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Cappyrella,

I see you have important progressions here:

Moon transits IC
Sun transits Vertex in Aqua 6th
Venus transits DSC
Juno transits Uranus 6th ruler/Vertex ruler
Mercury transits Venus
and the nodal superposition.

Because you're a Virgo ASC, my guess is you're about to have an important meeting for your future and your ASC and I think it's a woman, a friend. The meeting is related to 9th house issues (abroad, studies etc.) Maybe a woman will facilitate this important 9th house connection already present in your permanent charts.

The Yod that you see there is happening now, is about to happen


Thanks but I was hoping for a reading on the possible future of my relationship status, not an NLP trick

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posted October 22, 2014 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir,
was it Harold Pinter and his wife?

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posted October 22, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so, Ceri, but I'm not sure. Mir, yes, maybe you can find it you know how much I'm interested in squares, in general.

Hm I'm not sure either how the p composite works, but, logically, it should be a parallel, combined view on the same cycles present in the p synastry.

Checking this synastry, with the double bi-novile until 2080 I see in the p composite a Venus/Sun conjunction, applying, now 5 deg. Which is a normal result of the double appl conjunction in the p natals of each person. The conjunction becomes exact in 2034, wow, 20 years from now. In 2040, 2 deg separating.

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posted October 22, 2014 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not everything related to the 7th house is about love partnerships, Cappy, at least this is my view: 7th house is about all kinds of partnerships, friendships, business partners, anything that implies a duo, a team, a "contract" between two people, a union, collaboration etc.

To me it looks like all markers in your progression point to what I said, at least this is the next, immediate stage - they are very cohesive. I think it's a wonderful p chart, with that Yod. Something very important is about to happen, that will change your life.

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posted October 22, 2014 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see. Forever alone for real then.
You do realize these are the progressions for my 30th bday, right?

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posted October 22, 2014 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recently a (Late Sag-) guy (from my neighborhood) asked me to look in the progressions (well, he didn't exactly ask but I told him about my passion and then he got a bit curious about him and his girl - and I OFFERED... - well, he hardly had a chance to refuse my offer lol).
They (him & her) were direct neighbors for more than 10 years (hey.. now I think about it; he's from 18-12-1975 BTW, isn't that your birthday Ceri??) before anything truly happened between them.

Well, so I looked...

And yess.. ofcourse, the progressed biggies arose exactly as I thought, active for the next 2-3 years.

But then.. after that ^^ they will have a progressed Compo Sun/Venus conj. coming up for the next 10 years or so.

And AFTER that ^ .. other strong p-biggies will arise again..

So I told him that they are a very interesting research case etc.

And then after that he thanked me and he asked.. "BUT what about *US*?.. there was Always something *special* between us, how are the progressions between US?"


BAD BAD BAD haha... (I still have to tell him that.. all and only squares coming up.. )

(I've ALWAYS liked this guy very much ^^^ - pretty ugly but he simply HAS it, he has it ALL! - just the way he acts the way he moves the way he talks the way he.... everything! BUT... yea.. I can def. feel the squares for us .. there's a WALL somewhwere somehow.. )


OK, I will look for that square-couple... give me some time.

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posted October 22, 2014 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I see. Forever alone for real then.
You do realize these are the progressions for my 30th bday, right?


No, I didn't, you should have told me. Why does this mean you will be alone, Queen?

Maybe (and that's what I suspect) you will already be in a relationship by then, or afterwards, and this meeting I saw there is about something else.

Chances are your next relationship (or at least the most important relationship will) will start at your next Sun/Moon hard aspect (I think it's a conjunction??) That's why I asked when it is...when is it? BTW, any soft aspect in between?

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posted October 22, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, I didn't, you should have told me.

I told you that the progressions are for THAT time -_- Do you mean pMoon to pSun?

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posted October 22, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You did??? Sorry... I had a rough week.

yes p Moon to p Sun
What and when are the next cycles?

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posted October 22, 2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I've already asked but I think it got lost in the shuffle after mir asked a question but are there any strengths in the current progressions or progressions to come? This relationship is the first I've had where I can actually see myself marrying him someday, oddly enough. He has said the same thing. With time it keeps getting better and things feel much more "settled" now than in the beginning (which was only 8 months ago). I am on the inside.

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posted October 22, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mir,
was it Harold Pinter and his wife?

Yess..

Trines and failure with Vivien Merchant; squares and success with Antonia Fraser.

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posted October 22, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Margy, the only outstanding thing for me here is an exact Venus/Mars sextile, but that's going to separate sooner than later I suppose.

But I suspect something more to see in the progressed to natals, can you show those wheels here also?

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