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Ceridwen
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posted October 16, 2014 07:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Really? Why do you think it fits him?


He is all about the experience. Always on the go (run - I almost said. lol), travelling, gathering new input, he just has to start things again and again.

Now where it does not seem to fit is the lack of commitment, the inability to do so. WEll first of all, even if he commits, he tends to stay free, as you can see freom his actions, right?

The difference here is that he HAS a homebase from where he starts and to where he returns to start his travelling all over again. His family is extremely important to him. So yes he has roots, and he still is a wandering spirit. It seems like a contradiction, I know.
But I suppose that is what you get if you combine a Gypsy New Moon with Venus in Capricorn trine Saturn on the DESC. lol

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Ceridwen
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posted October 16, 2014 07:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His family orientedness might aslob e reflected in the Draconic New Moon falling into Cancer.

"Mother`s Daughter Moon" - LOL
So funny that my tropical one is the Father`s Daughter Moon.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 07:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Like my Dad`s the the one Mr sag is progressing into: WOODCUTTER`S MOON.

Hmmmmmm. Well he is a workaholic. But from what I know does not work with wood.. not even as a hobby. I know I shouldn't take it so literal lol. We don't seem to compatible, huh? But I suppose it sums us up well.. me with my head in the clouds, thinking about thinking.. and him practical and pragmatic, working with his hands.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 07:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
He is all about the experience. Always on the go (run - I almost said. lol), travelling, gathering new input, he just has to start things again and again.

Now where it does not seem to fit is the lack of commitment, the inability to do so. WEll first of all, even if he commits, he tends to stay free, as you can see freom his actions, right?

The difference here is that he HAS a homebase from where he starts and to where he returns to start his travelling all over again. His family is extremely important to him. So yes he has roots, and he still is a wandering spirit. It seems like a contradiction, I know.
But I suppose that is what you get if you combine a Gypsy New Moon with Venus in Capricorn trine Saturn on the DESC. lol


I see! He is quite the walking paradox, your Mr. Sag. But I see why he's a Gypsy Moon now.

Interesting book. I'll see if I can get the kindle edition, no way I am waiting for the delivery lol.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 16, 2014 07:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
His family orientedness might aslob e reflected in the Draconic New Moon falling into Cancer.

"Mother`s Daughter Moon" - LOL
So funny that my tropical one is the Father`s Daughter Moon.


Yeah, your Moons are pretty family oriented, both of them.

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I'm so cappy
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posted October 16, 2014 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lee, as if I knew the answer to your dilemma I found the concjunction for my month and my natal Moon is about 85 deg behind it which means it's a legit Fourth Quarter specimen.

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Ceridwen
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posted October 16, 2014 08:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Hmmmmmm. Well he is a workaholic. But from what I know does not work with wood.. not even as a hobby. I know I shouldn't take it so literal lol. We don't seem to compatible, huh? But I suppose it sums us up well.. me with my head in the clouds, thinking about thinking.. and him practical and pragmatic, working with his hands.


If you can find some common base it sounds to me like you could teach each other some valuable things.


Interestingly Mr Sags and my Moon phase seem to both hint at the imnportance of freedom.

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Ceridwen
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posted October 16, 2014 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Yeah, your Moons are pretty family oriented, both of them.


actually my Draconic Moon phase is called LITTLE SISTER MOON. lol

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Selene
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posted October 16, 2014 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, could you, please, look up my Moon (Moon Leo 13'21, Sun Libra 19'21) and his Moon (Moon Capricorn 29'34, Sun Aries 5'54)?

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Ceridwen
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posted October 16, 2014 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
Ceri, could you, please, look up my Moon (Moon Leo 13'21, Sun Libra 19'21) and his Moon (Moon Capricorn 29'34, Sun Aries 5'54)?

yours: USURPERS MOON or BARLEYCORN MOON
It is the Moon of the sacrificial King, the hardest of the Leo Moons, as they do not have the showy confidence of the other Leo Moon and might experience setbacks and being belittled in childhhood. However they have the quiet deep strenght and the ability to love with the quiet passion and abandon of a (wo)man knowing that this could be the last day on earth.
Sounds like an all-or-nothing Moon, but in a quiet way.


His:

BTW do you have the same Moon phase?

Nevertheless his is in Capricorn, so the Moon-name is different.

MISER`S MOON

Interestingly also the mentioining of sacrifice, this time resulting in a tendency to wanting to cling to what the Cappy-Moon has. Sacrifice only in exchange for something of similiar value (which beckons the question is this still a sacrifice then or rather a bargain?)(

had his Moon een in Aquarius, it would have been the HERETIC`S MOON.

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kaianna
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posted October 16, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kaianna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What moon phases would be compatible with a full moon?

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mir
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posted October 16, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ New moon according to Nine (in romantic love matters)


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book is: Moon Phase Astrology - the lunar key to your destiny, by Raven Kaldera


Read in her book overview;

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the author reveals which Moons are the most difficult..

Which are they ^?

The waxing crescent? Or applying squares?

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Selene
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posted October 16, 2014 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yours: USURPERS MOON or BARLEYCORN MOON
It is the Moon of the sacrificial King, the hardest of the Leo Moons, as they do not have the showy confidence of the other Leo Moon and might experience setbacks and being belittled in childhhood. However they have the quiet deep strenght and the ability to love with the quiet passion and abandon of a (wo)man knowing that this could be the last day on earth.
Sounds like an all-or-nothing Moon, but in a quiet way.


His:

BTW do you have the same Moon phase?

Nevertheless his is in Capricorn, so the Moon-name is different.

MISER`S MOON

Interestingly also the mentioining of sacrifice, this time resulting in a tendency to wanting to cling to what the Cappy-Moon has. Sacrifice only in exchange for something of similiar value (which beckons the question is this still a sacrifice then or rather a bargain?)(

had his Moon een in Aquarius, it would have been the HERETIC`S MOON.



Thank you! The description of my Moon is really, really spot on!

Yes, we have the same phase - last quarter Moon!

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Ceridwen
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posted October 17, 2014 04:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
^ New moon according to Nine (in romantic love matters)


Which are they ^?

The waxing crescent? Or applying squares?


The quarter Moons - in her delineation- will bring a moment of crisis. In the case of the waxing quarter Moon, internal crisis; in the case of the waning one it is external.

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Ceridwen
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posted October 17, 2014 04:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has those general titles for the moon phases:

New Moon: In the beginning

Crescent: Call to action

waxing quarter: internal crisis

gibbous: Soul`s Redemption

full : consummation

dissemanating: Greater Good

waning quarter: the wound on the outside

balsamic: into the embers

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LeeLoo2014
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posted October 17, 2014 05:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

He definitely is a New Moon baby.

the calendar sais about his birthday:

New
visible: 1%
Age: 0 days

(in fact the exact New Moon was just 3 hours before his birth.)



He's a New Moon baby, all right!

About Balsamic Moon...although part of the phenomenon New Moon, somehow it is the opposite of it, the mirror image. Balsamic is the Old Moon fading away into that moment of complete darkness, which is the beginning of the New Moon. Balsamic - end of a cycle, New Moon - beginning of a cycle, so I think the energies are different, even a bit antagonistic.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted October 17, 2014 06:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice book! I'm a Bard's Moon (Balsamic in Leo) but I found no description online, just the name for it.

My Draco Moon 0 Sag is called Shaman's Moon

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Ceridwen
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posted October 17, 2014 06:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

He's a New Moon baby, all right!

About Balsamic Moon...although part of the phenomenon New Moon, somehow it is the opposite of it, the mirror image. Balsamic is the Old Moon fading away into that moment of complete darkness, which is the beginning of the New Moon. Balsamic - end of a cycle, New Moon - beginning of a cycle, so I think the energies are different, even a bit antagonistic.



yes, I get that now.

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libran_dream
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posted October 17, 2014 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, can I annoy you to look up my phase in your shiny new book? Moon SAG11, Sun TAU16.

I think the lunation cycle is very important for the personality, for sure. My natal has a Full Moon phase, at 205°. I actually feel a lot more like a Disseminating.

His has a Crescent phase, and I definitely feel that those are incompatible. The Composite has a Gibbous, here's what Ms. Kent's article had to say about it: "one of the most important relationship lessons you'll learn is how to recognize the moment when persisting with a difficult relationship has become the equivalent of flogging a dead horse." Ha. Ha. How very true. I felt this relationship was past its sell-by date since it started, and yet letting go has been extraordinarily difficult. Maybe because that Gibbous Moon feels like it's constantly building up to something, and you feel that the reward is just around the corner.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted October 17, 2014 07:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, thank you for the idea of checking the synastric Moon Phases: I've made a wonderful discovery.

So my natal Moon is Balsamic, his natal Moon is Disseminating. We both have waning Moons.

In synastry, we have my Sun/his Moon - a sextile - Crescent and his Sun/my Moon - BQ - Gibbous.

Now, Gibbous is the exact complementary opposite phase of Balsamic, whilst Crescent is the exact complementary opposite phase of Disseminating. They both make a Full Moon.


Isn't that interesting?
Not that I find opp phase Moons as being better than same phase Moons, but I find this amazing.

Actually, because our Suns are in opposition, and our Moons in the same phase, our synastric Sun/Moon aspects are the exact completion of each other's natal aspects.

I find the connection with the Full Moon (as in completed Moon) very revealing in this case, because,I would read it like this: the synastric Sun/Moon sextile is a completion to his Disseminating Moon, making it reach its potential, by completing his Moon trine Sun. But the sextile is actually part of our Star of David - a completed close figure(involving his Sun/Moon trine, of course), made of:


my Sun in Virgo
his Moon/my MC in Scorpio
my ASC in Cap
his Sun/my Jupiter in Pisces
my IC in Taurus
my DSC/Saturn in Cancer

On the other hand, the Sun/Moon BQ completes my natal Sun/Moon decile AND makes a close figure, the Golden Yod with my Moon/our Uranus/his Sun my Sun, releasing in my Sun, making me the primary beneficiary of sorts! So the angle his Sun/my Moon and the Golden Yod is actually a vehicle for my Balsamic Moon to reach its full potential.

The symbolism of a Full Moon - completed figure - is found in the two completed, closed figures: Star of David and Golden Yod.


I just love this finding!


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LeeLoo2014
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posted October 17, 2014 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Lee, as if I knew the answer to your dilemma I found the concjunction for my month and my natal Moon is about 85 deg behind it which means it's a legit Fourth Quarter specimen.


Yes, that's you, Queenie

Always standing a little apart from your peers, you had your own internal processes at work guiding and directing you in life. You may have needed a lot of alone time. Perhaps you needed more rest as a child. Your way of processing is through the unconscious state. Naps as a child would have helped you sort life out, and meditation as an adult will give you the internal clarity needed to separate from the day to day hectic-ness so prevalent in the physical world.

You can be a master of the game, wearing the appropriate mask of participation. But what others may see isn't necessarily what they get. All the time, you are undergoing ideological transformation. As the butterfly suddenly appears from its chrysalis, you to will emerge entirely new, much to the amazement of all who thought they new you quite well.

Dreams are a vehicle for understand your internal process. Keeping a dream journal and reading your story as it unfolds can bring what is unconscious, to the light of understanding.

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12muddy
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posted October 17, 2014 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the article that DM posted:

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If you were born close to the waxing Sun/Moon square (90 degree), you gravitate toward partners who are temperamentally quite different from you, or who move at a different pace.

This is very true for me. I'm a second quarter moon, he's a balsamic moon. Different temperament indeed.

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Ceridwen
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posted October 17, 2014 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by libran_dream:
Ceri, can I annoy you to look up my phase in your shiny new book? Moon SAG11, Sun TAU16.

I think the lunation cycle is very important for the personality, for sure. My natal has a Full Moon phase, at 205°. I actually feel a lot more like a Disseminating.

His has a Crescent phase, and I definitely feel that those are incompatible. The Composite has a Gibbous, here's what Ms. Kent's article had to say about it: "one of the most important relationship lessons you'll learn is how to recognize the moment when persisting with a difficult relationship has become the equivalent of flogging a dead horse." Ha. Ha. How very true. I felt this relationship was past its sell-by date since it started, and yet letting go has been extraordinarily difficult. Maybe because that Gibbous Moon feels like it's constantly building up to something, and you feel that the reward is just around the corner.


HAHA, your Moon falls RIGHT Onto my stellium Mars, ASC, NEptune, NN from 5-10 Sagittarius, and your Sun squares my Moon and falls onto my nameasteroid exact. Not that you wanted to know that.


Your phase is the PRIESTS MOON, a Sagittarius-Fullmoon.
Not like the priests of the catholic church of course, since the author has a pagan background. but one mark of them is being caught between intellect and inspiration and finding a balance between them.

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Ceridwen
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posted October 17, 2014 04:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

the BARD`s MOON is the moon of the (wo)man who has had the experience of being King and having left the rulership behind, either through own will or because they had been made to resign.
But from this perspective of experience they speak the truth. And as long as they are not attached to any feelings like envy, jealousy, power, rage etc. but speak their truth from a free, pure place, it has a lot of value.
It is said that these people have great persuasion skills.


The king would do good to listen to what the bard has to say, as he can learn a lot from them, though often kings do not quite want to hear that.

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libran_dream
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posted October 17, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
HAHA, your Moon falls RIGHT Onto my stellium Mars, ASC, NEptune, NN from 5-10 Sagittarius, and your Sun squares my Moon and falls onto my nameasteroid exact. Not that you wanted to know that.


Your phase is the PRIESTS MOON, a Sagittarius-Fullmoon.
Not like the priests of the catholic church of course, since the author has a pagan background. but one mark of them is being caught between intellect and inspiration and finding a balance between them.



Thank you! That makes so much sense to me. I always saw myself so strongly in the Priest archetype. I don't know if you subscribe to reincarnation at all, but I have some memories that point to being in priestly roles in several lifetimes.

How funny about our placement alignments. Maybe that explains something a bit to me. I had something to tell you, and, again, I don't know if you subscribe to reincarnation at all, so just completely disregard this if it doesn't resonate with you at all. Completely out of the blue, as I was listening to a Bach piece, I had a vision of you, as an opera singer, in a past life. These kinds of things happen to me all the time, I've learned to just roll with it. Me having inexplicable visions, it's just a regular Tuesday, you know.
In my vision, it was maybe not an opera singer, but more of a private concert singer, maybe a high-class parlour and sacral music singer. The tone in any case was that of a "serious" singer, professional and academically trained, not a "performer", as an opera singer would have been, as I know opera was considered a bit gauche in some circles early on. This distinction was quite a big thing in the 18th/19th ct. I guess. Especially in German music circles, the whole Händel vs. Mozart thing, you know.
I just wanted to communicate that to you. Maybe you resonate a bit, maybe not.

Anyways, back to the Lunations at hand. What LeeLoo said about lunar phase completions is a great theory for compatibility, I'll definitely keep it in mind.

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