posted November 06, 2014 08:15 AM              

I'll copy the part about the nodes here, for reference:

Lunar Node: Here is perhaps one of the most misunderstood non-planetary points (along with the Aries Point). It has stayed with western astrologers largely through its important role in Hindu Astrology, and interpretations of it are often colored with the language and perspective of ancient Hindu traditions. Here, however, my intent is to describe the Lunar Nodes as they manifest in today's world and more universal paradigms. Let's look to what the Lunar Nodes actually are, and that will help us clarify what they actually mean for us when we look at a chart in the here and now. The Hamburg School and Cosmobiological traditions have been to correlate them with bonds, relationships, or connections. A problem here is that these terms overlap with matters also signified by the Ascendant and Venus, and Cupido, as well. So we might seek to clarify the Lunar Nodes' meaning to distinguish them from those other chart factors which yield similar, but not identical, information. The Node of any planet is where it crosses the path of the Sun around the Earth. In this case, since were are referring to the Nodes of the Moon, we are dealing with something that combines the energies of the Aries Point, the Sun, and the Moon all together. Why is the Aries Point considered here? Because it is the starting point in a reference paradigm, i.e. a "circle" called the Ecliptic, which is in effect the apparent path of the Sun as it appears to circle around our planet Earth, from a geocentric perspective.

My first exposure to convincing interpretations of the Lunar Nodes was through the writings of Frances Sakoian and Louis Acker. They presented the Lunar Nodes as our personal manner of relating to public trends and the Zeitgeist, or "Spirit of the Times". Well-configured Nodes, i.e. those that allowed for fluid and readily constructive expression in the chart, often indicated popularity and an ability to easily capitalize on public trends and "go with the flow", while Nodes with stressful configurations indicated personal problems in relating fluidly with the general public... "swimming against the current" or "being out of sync". I found such interpretations to be accurate in most every case, and to be rather significant for many people. However, when I came upon Hamburg School and Uranian literature, the emphasis in Node interpretations was more on the personal side, and I initially thought to myself, 'how could this be?"

Further study, in an attempt to answer this question, led me to realize that as an extension of the Moon (relying on the Moon as their main point of reference), the Lunar Nodes have both a personal and a public side, just as the Moon does. For, just as the Moon indicates the public itself... the people of the public (compared to the inanimate and fixed location where one finds oneself when "out among the public", in the open, symbolized by the Aries/Cardinal Point) ... the Lunar Node describes the interaction between the Moon (the people of the public and our emotional response to them.), the Sun (our vital energies), and Aries Point (the general setting, and our place in the world/universe). Considering these three factors together, they semantically dovetail quite nicely to verify what Sakoian and Acker asserted.

The Moon also signifies our personal connection to the public, in a personal and subjective sense, i.e. how we perceive and receive our environment... how we sense, feel, and respond to what we experience. The Moon indicates much about our emotional nature and how we function as respondents to the energies of both the inanimate environs and other people in our proximity, in a very personal way. Combine this with the Sun, which signifies the vital energies of all beings as relayers of the Sun's energies, and we see how each one of us, as members of the public, functions like a little Moon. And how does this fit with relationships, bonds, and connections? Think of the interaction between the Sun and the Moon.... one emits light with vibrant energy, while the other receives, reflects, and rechannels this energy to nurture our Earth and to nurture each other. A main theme here is "complementation" and the give-and-take of energies in interactions. We begin to have a sense of how the Lunar Nodes function in personal relationships.... there is a vitality and also personal sensitivity not indicated with the Ascendant. Here, the various factors involved synthesize well to correlate with the definition Hamburg School astrologers have often ascribed to the Lunar Nodes. We might experience the Lunar Nodes externally through complementary relationships with others (where one individual is more assertive, the other more receptive) or through an internal balance where individuals project themselves with a balance of assertiveness and receptivity (thus promoting ease of social relating and popular acceptance).

Here is how Alfred Witte described the Lunar Nodes in 1924, where he commented on how the (approximately) 19-year orbital ("metonic") cycle of the Lunar Nodes correlates symbolically as the square root of the 361-day orbital cycle of the Sun in a remarkable mathematical relationship that seems more than just coincidental: "The Lunar Nodes are significant in that the nodes are the intersecting point of the Moon's orbit (symbolic of the wife) with the Earth's orbit (symbolic of the husband) and therefore correlate with the masculine-feminine blending. In addition, the unification of the etheric (Moon) with coarser material substances (Sun) are influenced by the Lunar Nodes." (Witte, p 193)

This insight indeed correlates with the Lunar Nodes as an indicator of both intimate partnerships (where Solar and Lunar energies are blended), as well as the integration and coordination within the individual of vital energies, self-awareness, and confidence (Sun) with receptiveness to needs of others (Moon) required to truly and effectively relate in broader social contexts, confirming the insights of Sakoian and Acker, and validating some of the more traditional and esoteric assumptions about the nature of the Lunar Nodes. The Lunar Nodes might then well be interpreted as "complementary relationships" or "complementation in interaction".

posted November 07, 2014 04:50 AM            

I have conjunction of Venus, NN, s/m midpoint in Leo , I don't want any planet near there . Last time , it was my biggest crush that last for many years , he has his Mars exactly on my venus (seriously only this , no other aspects important) . I guess the area near my NN is so powerful by itself , so it left a huge impact everytime the conjunction occur.

Opposite my NN in Aquarius , is my 5th house . I 'm so welcome any venus here Although it's aqua , I will drain all the love out of it . So then this complete my nodal axis , NN has already natal venus , SN if possible , would be completely the love axis

posted November 12, 2014 02:22 PM              

- A's sun/moon midpoint conjuncts the south node of B
- A's south node conjuncts IC + Pluto of B

posted November 12, 2014 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
The South Node being a strong indicator for a past life connection if not current attraction, how would u guys judge the following aspects in synastry:

- A's sun/moon midpoint conjuncts the south node of B
- A's south node conjuncts IC + Pluto of B

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The Midpoints are activation centres for points. They give texture, flavour, and purpose to whatever touches them. NODES, on the other hand, are calculated points, just as the Midpoints are.

If you have a point ON the SUN/MOON MP, then it's connexion to the SNODE is significant as it becomes imbued with the ultimate merging of Masculine and Feminine / Solar and Lunar.

If the points are both conjunct the SNODE, even if widely, then that counts on its own.

posted November 13, 2014 10:10 AM              

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
The Midpoints are activation centres for points. They give texture, flavour, and purpose to whatever touches them. NODES, on the other hand, are calculated points, just as the Midpoints are.

If you have a point ON the SUN/MOON MP, then it's connexion to the SNODE is significant as it becomes imbued with the ultimate merging of Masculine and Feminine / Solar and Lunar.

If the points are both conjunct the SNODE, even if widely, then that counts on its own.

SNODE/IC links tend to appear in relationships where we have a family karma. If there are squares to the NODES, that can shed light on what karma we're completing (or have completed, depending).

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Thank you

The sun/moon mdp is activated by the snode only. (okay, it receives a trine from my venus but I thought only hard aspects Count)

posted November 13, 2014 02:10 PM            

- In Synastry, DW of SN conjunct Union, and many aspects under 3 deg between lunar objects (too many to list.. lol)
- His NN/Moon mp opposite (3 deg) my Lilith (the one in the "Additional objects" list on astro.com)
- My NN/Moon mp square (exact) his nMoon

- In Composite, SN/NN axis in 1/7H (Sco/Tau). Got a cluster of Moon, 3 Liliths, Vx, and NN all in 7H. cPluto (1H) opposes and cVenus/cMercury conjunction (3H) trines this cluster

- In PrComposite, SN/NN axis in 12/6H (Sco/Tau again). prPirapus conjunct prPluto in 12H, and oscilating lilith conjunct natural apogee in 6H (I think... too many liliths!). These two conjunctions are in opposition
- Stellium of Sun, Venus, Mercury, and Jupiter in 3H. SN/NN axis squares it, forming a t-square in the composite.

- In drComposite is pretty much the same as prComposite.

I have natal Moon in Pisces, and he has natal Moon in Cancer. I consider myself emotional but I think he is wayyyy more emotional than I am!! I am very cautious of his feelings, and I have to be! Otherwise he gets deeply hurt and I can see/feel it. He must get lots of emotional stuff when we are together as well...

posted November 13, 2014 06:32 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:

And there are 4 different liliths on astro.com??? So confusing... :S

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I can help!

Take LILITH in stages.

As LILITH 1181, she's the wilder, ostracised, equality-or-bust version of herself.

The BML ('Lilith' in the dropdown) is the Mean BLACK MOON. She's the bit more societally acceptable version of herself. Not tamed by a long-shot, but capable of integration. (Or, re-integration.)

The TRUE BLACK MOON LILITH is H13, the 'oscillating' Black Moon. She's, once more, the wilder, erratic, uncompromising stage of the Lilith myth.

posted January 13, 2021 05:27 AM            

But then I have Venus conjunct South Node natally, so that may also be why I stay a bit longer.