posted November 11, 2014 12:38 PM            

I can really "feel" this aspect if I am next to him. My intuition tells me that he enjoys the way I look, and likes to look at me. But I have no tangible proof for that. I would think, my Asc (looks, personality, what have you) gives his Mars a boost. There have been occasions though where he's commented on my looks or body. Recently he saw me all dressed up in a short dress with heels & my hair done. When he saw me he got so uncomfortable & had to look away! I could tell my presence looking so "made up" was making him all akward! It was kind of hilarious to be honest.

posted November 11, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Let's talk about a guy's Mars and Venus: Mars would be the woman he's very much attracted to in a physical manner, the one he finds sexy, the one pushing his manly buttons, the one he would ravish lol, regardless he finds her beautiful or not. Venus is the girl he finds beautiful, graceful, appealing, but he may not be physically attracted to her: she's like a nice painting to look at plus inspiring warmth feelings of affection and ultimately love. But the two feelings, Mars feelings and Venus feelings are quite distinctive.

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posted November 11, 2014 12:58 PM            

The Sun/Moon archetype within oneself is the ideal partner - the ideal marital partner - the 7th house archetype.

Looking at Brad Pitt, for example:

I see he has Venus conj Moon in Cap involved in a Minor triangle with Pluto and Neptune. His feminine archetype is all in one place; this guys finds Earth women: Sun Venus ASC beautiful, especially one with Taurus Sun Venus ASC. But he may like Scorpio too. His Cardinal Mars square his Jupiter on his nodal xis: the hottest one for him, the one that drives him mad physically, emphasizing his masculinity, will always be a Cardinal Venus/ASC woman, especially one with Venus/ASC in Cancer or Libra. (his sq is Cap/Aries)

His peregrine Sun semisextiles his Moon widely. I bet he prefers the other's Sun Moon Saturn or ASC in 6th/12th harmonic or variations with his.

It seems Angelina has no earth placements BUT her DSC is in Cap and Brad is crowded there, plus her Jupiter stellium is sitting on her MC. She's strongly Saturnian with her 12th Saturn sq all that. However, I bet he doesn't see her as the most beautiful woman on Earth lol

In exchange, obviously, her Venus/ASC in Cancer and her Aries stellium/MC are perfect for his Mars.

Her ASC/DSC semisextiles his Sun conj his Moon.

Looking at Paul McCartney now, a Fixed Venus sq Moon guy. For him, the most beautiful ladies in the world (and his ideal emotional archetype as well) have a fixed Venus/ASC/Sun, especially Scorpio and Aqua (his sq is Taurus/Leo). Linda Mc Cartney has Venus/Moon/ASC in Scorpio, IC in Aqua.

He has a Mars minor triangle with Libra Gem trine and Mars in Leo: the sexiest ladies have Venus Sun ASC in Air, especially Aqua, and something in Leo. Linda has 5 planets on the 3 points of his Minor Triangle, including the Sun. Interestingly, she also brings Uranus and Saturn to the minor triangle, thus satisfying the aqua requirement as well, indirectly.

Linda has Sun semisq Moon in her natal. She definitely prefers at least one 4th/8th aspect coming from her partner's Sun Moon Saturn or ASC/DSC to her Sun and/or Moon. They have Sun sq Sun and Moon sq Moon in their synastry, plus Paul's ASC is on Linda's Sun. His Saturn makes an OOS sq to her Sun.

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posted November 11, 2014 01:30 PM            

I knew a guy with Mars conjunct my ascendant and he could not stop talking about my appearance. He was very attracted to me in a physical way. It made me very uncomfortable, because at the time I was a teenager and he was close to thirty. Yuck.

posted November 11, 2014 01:58 PM            

I've had a few men put their MARS on my ASC. While I hesitate to say one aspect is the linkage for a physical attraction, it was mutual. Sex worked like it should, except he was very bullying about it. After a very puritanical upbringing, he was trying to rediscover his sexuality and felt I wasn't sexual enough for him to do that. His MARS was also conjunct my VENUS (4š) so, I'm sure that helped.

It would appear I've had two boyfriends whose ASC falls on my MARS.

With one, it was like a page out of that film Mr and Mrs Smith. Not kidding. He was oppositional and overbearing, and I wanted to knock him down a notch or twelve. Ohhhh, the chemistry. We ended up dating. To this day, we're still close friends. He since found / returned to his Twin Flame years ago, and I've helped them find their way back to each other, along with him slowly (very, very slowly) awakening. So, there's that.

The other is one of the dearest soul-brothers I've ever had. We taught each other what true love was. One of my first costars, our chemistry was fabulous. We were best friends, partners for an investigative / research organisation, and creative collaborators. I thought he was absolutely gorgeous, too. He was more than a little reciprocal in his estimation of me. Mutual appreciation societies rock.

The latest in the odd string of these is my partner / Guardian. Funny thing is, I never felt it was a physical attraction, but undeniably a sexual one. A deep, almost primordial sexual one. Reptilian -- basal ganglia type attraction. Beyond reason or sense. POWERFUL need for merging. (I attribute that to the BML/PRIAPUS conjunction, actually.)

In fact, sometimes I have to be reminded of his physical attractiveness. He used to double for Jude Law, for crying out loud. He's clearly got a lot going for him in the photogenic arena.

And despite my MARS being 5š in his 1H, that wasn't the draw. Oh, I can step out of myself for a minute and play casting director and see how physically attractive he is. But THAT's not the primary level of attraction. There are nuances that strike me: the way his hair will fall, or -- God in Heaven -- his eyes. Or, simply put, 'the way he does things.' That seems a MARS thing to me; the way he does things. His perfect posture, and naturally commanding stride. Not an affectation, just a part of his personality. (Ex-mil for the win.)

posted November 11, 2014 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interestingly I find not even squares negative, in aspecting the ASC. There might be a bit of "I donīt know what I see in you", but the attention is there nevertheless.

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posted November 11, 2014 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
RE: MARS/ASC.

I've had a few men put their MARS on my ASC. While I hesitate to say one aspect is the linkage for a physical attraction, it was mutual. Sex worked like it should, except he was very bullying about it. After a very puritanical upbringing, he was trying to rediscover his sexuality and felt I wasn't sexual enough for him to do that. His MARS was also conjunct my VENUS (4š) so, I'm sure that helped.

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So are you saying a man's Mars on a woman's ascendant would indicate attraction as well? Bullying sounds about right. The man who has his Mars on my ascendant wasn't "bullying" about sex because we were never in a relationship, thank God in heaven...but his comments about my looks were incessant. I eventually had to tell him to bug off completely.

posted November 11, 2014 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Funny thing is, I never felt it was a physical attraction, but undeniably a sexual one. A deep, almost primordial sexual one. Reptilian -- basal ganglia type attraction. Beyond reason or sense. POWERFUL need for merging. (I attribute that to the BML/PRIAPUS conjunction, actually.)

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When I started reading your sentence, I was thinking about my attraction to Mr Sag as well. It never was really physical, in fact for a few years I would spend some moments or several on these concerts pondering what this "thing" was about, I wasn`t even sure I thought he was handsome. Or I was thinking I had seen more handsome fellows than him, and still there undeniable was "something", and it drove me crazy. It was not so much physical attraction based on his looks or something, but something else, that felt ... instinctual, like an archaic program being activated. Something deeply embedded in the reptilian part of the brain maybe.

It also maybe is the reason that I can stay in detachment analytical mode and sort of analyse even my own reactions and thoguhts to him and categorize them and understand it and hence keep a cool distance and cool head, UNTIL he steps over that line.

I notice there is apparently an invisible line, a few centimetres around me, and whenver he crosses that line, the feeling totally changes, the interaction changes, mostly the fact that I can`t think straight.

And he has a habit, if it is possible, he DOES cross that line. he never stays in the social distance zone that would be appropriate, but it always has beeen that either he stayed far away (on stage of course), or if there was some sort of communication and talking, he always always always came up much too close for comfort, on the verge between private and intimate zone. And I am a lunar Aquarius! LOL
I remember one of these occasion when he did that, I was registering rather confused, that I couldnīt tell anymore where I ended and he began. Like our auric fields were so merged into each other, that I simply couldnīt tell his from mine anymore.

Of course at some times I am more sensitive to this than on others, but I remember one time, when he took me by surprise by suddenly coming up in my proximity (he also seems to be unable to just WALK towards me, he either RUNS or is simply there all at once, without me really having seen any movement on his part. lol), anyway that time it overwhelmed me so much, that I was almost passing out. I mean for a moment I really felt that I was experiencing an energetic overload. lol

Yeah, well, and then after me thinking that your description reminded me of Mr Sag, you mentioned BML and Priapus. I guess you might remember that my BML is conjunct his Priapus, too, right?
in fact since our true BML is exactly opposaite each other, it of course also meanst that we have true Priapus conjunct each other true BML (the Priapus we use on astro com is not the true one, but the natural Priapus).

posted November 11, 2014 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
He used to double for Jude Law, for crying out loud. !

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Actually you mentioning the Reptilian brain reminded me of the scene in "Wisdom of the crocodiles" when Jude`s character is talking about these brains.

And sometimes, out of the blue, a line from this film will pop into my mind, complete recollection of HOW it was being said. This morning when I was opening the refrigerator (do not ask me why, but these things hapen when I open doors or are walking over a doorstep), it was this quote; to be fair though, it is one of those that often come into my mind:

posted November 11, 2014 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

Plus squares to an axis are also a conjunction to the midpoint of that axis.

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exactly what I thought as well.

I see it like this, Mr Sag`s Eros is opposite his Amor, both are squaring my ASC-DESC. Of course that means that my ASC/DESC-mp conjuncts both, his Eros and his Amor.

posted November 11, 2014 02:43 PM            

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I notice there is apparently an invisible line, a few centimetres around me, and whenver he crosses that line, the feeling totally changes, the interaction changes, mostly the fact that I can`t think straight.

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YEP. I can attest to this (I'm assuming we're talking about a Mars/Asc conj)

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I remember one of these occasion when he did that, I was registering rather confused, that I couldnīt tell anymore where I ended and he began. Like our auric fields were so merged into each other, that I simply couldnīt tell his from mine anymore.

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Yes this too!! I know what you are SAYING!!!! I KNOW!

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That time it overwhelmed me so much, that I was almost passing out. I mean for a moment I really felt that I was experiencing an energetic overload. lol

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Ha it's like I could have been typing that. I had a particular experience like this with my Mars/Asc person. We were talking about the lawn. Yard grass. Trees. The most BORING topics. I thought, "If I don't leave this conversation I'm going to pass out". Very intense. I kept trying to even reposition my body so that I wasn't feeling that. I'm the Asc and they are the Mars.

And what everyone says about the very base primal feeling. Yep, I feel that too with my Mars/Asc person.

posted November 11, 2014 02:56 PM            

However, if we are fairly generous with orbs, Mr sag and me have some sort of mars/ASC as well, as his Mars is moderately wide square my ASC (4°05).

posted November 11, 2014 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
I'm a little confused about this. I've read that Venus is what attracts a man to a woman, and Mars is what attracts a woman to a man. How would it play out with the man's Mars conjunct the woman's ascendant?

I knew a guy with Mars conjunct my ascendant and he could not stop talking about my appearance. He was very attracted to me in a physical way. It made me very uncomfortable, because at the time I was a teenager and he was close to thirty. Yuck.

I've gotten those vibes from Venus conjunct my ascendant. I always feel more "beautiful" when I'm around them...but it felt like the Venus person was a wee bit more subtle than the Mars person though. Maybe that's the difference?

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As I described in my previous posts, I think Mars conj ASC shows very strong sexual attraction of the Mars person which may or may not be reciprocated by the ASC person. The ASC is a martian point, being the cusp of the house of Aries. So in a way it's like Mars conj Mars. A man's Mars on a girl ASC is a very stimulated Mars. A guy's Venus on a girl's ASC is different, it only shows the guy find the woman beautiful, feminine, attractive, he feels affectionate towards her, but this does not guarantee sexual attraction or compatibility. Both these aspects are not enough by themselves, although both are great aspects to have. In my experience, a guy identifies with the Mars attraction a lot, since men usually put a strong emphasis on sex. Anything touching a guy's Mars makes him feel very manly in the presence of that woman and she of course, responds to his masculinity (by liking it or finding it intrusive, as in your case).

Mars also stands for which turns us on, for both men and women, which includes what aggravates us, inflames us - anger, physical dynamism or even violence included.

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posted November 11, 2014 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

Plus squares to an axis are also a conjunction to the midpoint of that axis.

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Great point, Lavender! One can imagine what it means to have your ASC squaring someone's Venus or Mars opposition.

posted November 11, 2014 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
RE: MARS/ASC.

I've had a few men put their MARS on my ASC. While I hesitate to say one aspect is the linkage for a physical attraction, it was mutual. Sex worked like it should, except he was very bullying about it. After a very puritanical upbringing, he was trying to rediscover his sexuality and felt I wasn't sexual enough for him to do that. His MARS was also conjunct my VENUS (4š) so, I'm sure that helped.

It would appear I've had two boyfriends whose ASC falls on my MARS.

With one, it was like a page out of that film Mr and Mrs Smith. Not kidding. He was oppositional and overbearing, and I wanted to knock him down a notch or twelve. Ohhhh, the chemistry. We ended up dating. To this day, we're still close friends. He since found / returned to his Twin Flame years ago, and I've helped them find their way back to each other, along with him slowly (very, very slowly) awakening. So, there's that.

The other is one of the dearest soul-brothers I've ever had. We taught each other what true love was. One of my first costars, our chemistry was fabulous. We were best friends, partners for an investigative / research organisation, and creative collaborators. I thought he was absolutely gorgeous, too. He was more than a little reciprocal in his estimation of me. Mutual appreciation societies rock.

The latest in the odd string of these is my partner / Guardian. Funny thing is, I never felt it was a physical attraction, but undeniably a sexual one. A deep, almost primordial sexual one. Reptilian -- basal ganglia type attraction. Beyond reason or sense. POWERFUL need for merging. (I attribute that to the BML/PRIAPUS conjunction, actually.)

In fact, sometimes I have to be reminded of his physical attractiveness. He used to double for Jude Law, for crying out loud. He's clearly got a lot going for him in the photogenic arena.

And despite my MARS being 5š in his 1H, that wasn't the draw. Oh, I can step out of myself for a minute and play casting director and see how physically attractive he is. But THAT's not the primary level of attraction. There are nuances that strike me: the way his hair will fall, or -- God in Heaven -- his eyes. Or, simply put, 'the way he does things.' That seems a MARS thing to me; the way he does things. His perfect posture, and naturally commanding stride. Not an affectation, just a part of his personality. (Ex-mil for the win.)

But, hey, I've also got LUST conjunct his ASC, near-exact. I'm sure that helps!

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Such a great description, Aubyanne! Especially that point about "the way one does things". When we like someone's Mars, this is what we like, how he moves and especially how he does things, with his hands, with his body, how he walks - and generally his body.

Mars/ASC makes you want to touch the other person all the time, sometimes in a rougher manner lol Like a strong embrace, pinching or even wrestling and beating hahahaha. And he certainly drives you mad sometimes, mad with anger and not only When you're mad at him, you feel like punching him.

With the conjunction there's a strong need to form one body with the other

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posted November 11, 2014 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by 12th_House_Gal:
Ha it's like I could have been typing that. I had a particular experience like this with my Mars/Asc person. We were talking about the lawn. Yard grass. Trees. The most BORING topics. I thought, "If I don't leave this conversation I'm going to pass out". Very intense. I kept trying to even reposition my body so that I wasn't feeling that. I'm the Asc and they are the Mars.

And what everyone says about the very base primal feeling. Yep, I feel that too with my Mars/Asc person.

I swear Ceridwen it's like you could have been typing my explanations! lol

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I'm curious...what do you have in Aries?

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posted November 11, 2014 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Anything touching a guy's Mars makes him feel very manly in the presence of that woman

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then he should feel quite a bit of it I suppose.

His Mars:
trine my Venus (5)
square my Mars (5-6)
opposite my Jupiter (0), chartruler
square my Neptune (1)
square my NN (1)
square my ASC (4)

also

posted November 11, 2014 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Virgo Mars? Meeeh

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You don't know what you're missing...don't miss this one!

posted November 11, 2014 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
then he should feel quite a bit of it I suppose.

His Mars:
trine my Venus (5)
square my Mars (5-6)
opposite my Jupiter (0), chartruler
square my Neptune (1)
square my NN (1)
square my ASC (4)

also

conjunct my Persephone (2) - he wants to abduct me?
opposes my Ishtar (3)
squares my Inannen (1)
squares my Kaali (1) - his conj. my Mars
trine my Isis (3), yeah wide I know
trine my Guinevere-Spirit (0)

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Cool aspects...and I like the sq too... with Persephone and all those goddesses lol he most certainly is turned on by you in a goddess costume hahahaha with Persephone he most certainly loves your darker, more Plutonian side.

posted November 11, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Are you speaking from personal experience?

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They are very good, yes. Especially if they're good for you.