posted November 12, 2015 05:58 PM            

He's clearly an '80'er, with the JUP/SAT conjunction in Virgo, or it hits your midpoint (not sure which yet), but with NODES in Leo/Aqua. His VENUS and NEP square your NODES are what get me, however; they're only conjunct in that pattern from November to December 1980. However, they're making an opposition in the summer of 1980; you've said his VENUS is Gemini, so -- going with the latter. Thinking ... late July. VENUS has just been Retro, and is opposite NEPTUNE, indicating some major personal karma regarding relationships. Not HIS skipped step -- but square your NODES, definitely, forming a Mutable Cross. That's the only time when JUPITER/SATURN= 15º-20º Virgo, too.

Now, you're a MOON-URA in Scorpio -- like I am, actually -- but with NODES in Virgo/Pisces, that's '79, not '80. With VENUS in Pisces, and his MARS ssq his NODES -- spring '79. Okay. Now I know where I'm at.

He's got a skipped step (URANUS square NODES) involving freedom, personal independence, and being appreciated for his own unconventionality. Kinda like CHIRON -- which also happened throughout '80 at periods -- but without the wounding. However, he's actually got a tight CHIRON square the NODES, too, so he's got both of these as skipped steps, meaning anything in mid-late Aqua and Leo is going to hit them, as well as mid-late Taurus and Scorpio, be conjunct them. (URA and CHIRON, that is.)

Putting your MOON/URA on that and -- oh, yeah. Karma. Definitely.

Your skipped step would appear to be NEPTUNE, and -- yeah, buddy -- his VENUS/NEPTUNE (opposition) is in orb of being conjunct (NEPTUNE) and opposite (VENUS), and square your NODES.

There's that Mutable Cross I was mentioning.

Yeah. Those are some tight patterns between you. I'm not sure I would've ever said that you'd end up marrying, however. Did anyone run your progressions? Or just the transits?

NEPTUNE as a skipped step takes us back to Pisces, of course, which is where your VENUS is placed. In a roundabout way, it ends up being relationship-oriented karma as well. Perhaps specifically tied to deception, fantasy, expectations, and the impact these have upon our lives.

Did you also have the SUN/MOON opposition, with his PLUTO/MOON (especially) being opposite your SUN? MARS opposite MARS would've been a powerful, conflictual draw as well. Not to mention your PLUTO being on his MOON. Wow.

posted November 12, 2015 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's all that I needed to see.

Do you have anything square your own NODES, which is conjunct his VENUS?

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Thanks so much for responding Aubyanne! Yes, just Neptune.

When you say that's all you needed to see, what does Venus Sq Nodes represent? I'm still learning how to match what happened/how it felt to the astrology. I'd love your insight. And Neptune is a planet I still don't really understand. Can you please share what you see here?

BIG thank you in advance.

posted November 12, 2015 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Nevermind. Starting to see the picture.

He's clearly an '80'er, with the JUP/SAT conjunction in Virgo, or it hits your midpoint (not sure which yet), but with NODES in Leo/Aqua. His VENUS and NEP square your NODES are what get me, however; they're only conjunct in that pattern from November to December 1980. However, they're making an opposition in the summer of 1980; you've said his VENUS is Gemini, so -- going with the latter. Thinking ... late July. VENUS has just been Retro, and is opposite NEPTUNE, indicating some major personal karma regarding relationships. Not HIS skipped step -- but square your NODES, definitely, forming a Mutable Cross. That's the only time when JUPITER/SATURN= 15º-20º Virgo, too.

Now, you're a MOON-URA in Scorpio -- like I am, actually -- but with NODES in Virgo/Pisces, that's '79, not '80. With VENUS in Pisces, and his MARS ssq his NODES -- spring '79. Okay. Now I know where I'm at.

He's got a skipped step (URANUS square NODES) involving freedom, personal independence, and being appreciated for his own unconventionality. Kinda like CHIRON -- which also happened throughout '80 at periods -- but without the wounding. However, he's actually got a tight CHIRON square the NODES, too, so he's got both of these as skipped steps, meaning anything in mid-late Aqua and Leo is going to hit them, as well as mid-late Taurus and Scorpio, be conjunct them. (URA and CHIRON, that is.)

Putting your MOON/URA on that and -- oh, yeah. Karma. Definitely.

Your skipped step would appear to be NEPTUNE, and -- yeah, buddy -- his VENUS/NEPTUNE (opposition) is in orb of being conjunct (NEPTUNE) and opposite (VENUS), and square your NODES.

There's that Mutable Cross I was mentioning.

Yeah. Those are some tight patterns between you. I'm not sure I would've ever said that you'd end up marrying, however. Did anyone run your progressions? Or just the transits?

NEPTUNE as a skipped step takes us back to Pisces, of course, which is where your VENUS is placed. In a roundabout way, it ends up being relationship-oriented karma as well. Perhaps specifically tied to deception, fantasy, expectations, and the impact these have upon our lives.

Did you also have the SUN/MOON opposition, with his PLUTO/MOON (especially) being opposite your SUN? MARS opposite MARS would've been a powerful, conflictual draw as well. Not to mention your PLUTO being on his MOON. Wow.

There's definitely a lot here, so I can see where it was transformative and karma-clearing.

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SUPER SLEUTH AUBYANNE FOR THE WIN!

WOW my astro friend. THANK YOU for breaking it down.

If you're up for it, I'd love to pay you to look at the progressions and talk to me about what you see. I know the Skipped Step Theory, but have never heard of the Moon/URA.

And no, no one looked at the progressions.

If you're around for a few tonight, we can set up something short. I just need some insight to help me let go. I'm struggling. BIG time.

posted November 12, 2015 07:23 PM            

An example.

Good friend of mine, who's helping me develop my series for television, has NEP as his skipped step. Without getting into too much, we'll say that an addiction would've never allowed him the success he's got. My VALENTINE is right on there, too, square his NODES -- but so is my PSYCHE. 3H/9H. We have a karma in which we were siblings who failed to get their show to air in the early days of television. He fought for it so intensely, he left the network. I didn't. I couldn't. He died of alcohol poisoning, and I never quite resolved the regret I had over not following him in his protest.

If you think of how NEPTUNE rules the film industry as well as addictions and illusions -- even disappointments and delusions -- it's easy to see the connexion. His NODES overlay my ASC/DSC, so it was sharply apparent to me that we have karma between us, whereas my SNODE is conjunct his MOON.

VALENTINE/PSYCHE is interesting to me, too. I always had a sense that I was staying at the network because of a man I was in love with, and perhaps thinking we'd go off and live happily ever after. Not sure. But I suspect I ended up heartbroken, and in deep regret over everything that 'never came to be'. I never found that love (VALENTINE), meanwhile, I betrayed my brother by not standing with him (my VALENTINE/NEPTUNE conjunct his NEPTUNE square his NODES opposite my PSYCHE).

No one can ever know for sure, but my 3H/4H division of VAL/NEP feels very sibling / family oriented, with my 9H Gemini PSYCHE, which would've been dedicated to expansive horizons, and advances in communication, and broadcast technology.

When I saw his NODES square my VALENTINE, I was, at first puzzled. I knew that he wasn't a former lover. Or not recently. What I FELT was the deep love of a brother, of family. And this sense that I'd stand with him, no matter what. Period.

Looking back on the conflict that 'trapped' me at the network (of my own doing), I can see why VALENTINE would be what I 'failed to do right' -- in regards to him. Choosing love that wasn't even a sure bet, and possibly already deceiving me (VALENTINE/NEPTUNE) over my own brother -- that's what would come through most loudly and clearly between us.

I think the karma was resolved -- or on its way to being cleared -- when I was given an offer to move forward in my project, so long as I didn't demand he also be attached. I said, almost without thinking -- no way. Whatever I did, and however I did it, he would be attached -- period. It would be HIS choosing otherwise -- not a network or potential distributor's.

So it can be a bit like that. And you KNOW when you've just 'closed a loop' or cleared certain karma. You feel lighter. Something seems RIGHT.

posted November 12, 2015 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by krysalismoon:
SUPER SLEUTH AUBYANNE FOR THE WIN!

WOW my astro friend. THANK YOU for breaking it down.

If you're up for it, I'd love to pay you to look at the progressions and talk to me about what you see. I know the Skipped Step Theory, but have never heard of the Moon/URA.

And no, no one looked at the progressions.

If you're around for a few tonight, we can set up something short. I just need some insight to help me let go. I'm struggling. BIG time.

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posted November 12, 2015 07:30 PM            

Not even the transits were run for us, just me.
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"Did you also have the SUN/MOON opposition, with his PLUTO/MOON (especially) being opposite your SUN? MARS opposite MARS would've been a powerful, conflictual draw as well. Not to mention your PLUTO being on his MOON. Wow."

CORRECTION: his Venus opposite my Neptune (sorry, just re-looking here. Not conjunct as I previously thought.)
And my Venus Squares is Neptune.
My venus is in Pisces (along with a stellium of other asteroids and planets including my SN; so given his Skipped Step, I'm sure my energy was "loud" to him.

Yes to Mars Opposite Mars. (1 degree)
Yes it appears my Sun in Aries opposes his Moon in Libra
Yes to his Moon Conj my Pluto
Yes to his Pluto opposite my Sun

But what do these things mean?

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There's definitely a lot here, so I can see where it was transformative and karma-clearing.[/B][/QUOTE]

posted November 17, 2015 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

Hey, thanks! I'm happy to, and I'll email you shortly.

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If you're still open to doing a reading, let me know, I'm definitely still up for it!

posted June 23, 2017 10:51 AM            

My Nodes his Venus. 3 years later. Another person comes along that shakes me up quiet a lot. I won't act on it, but there is a strong pull, whenever I think of him, which is constantly! His Venus conj my IC , his Merc, Sun and Mars are also in my 4th house! His Moon/Pluto conjunction in my 12th opposing my Venus/Mars conj. !!
It hurts when I think of him, even more because I know we can't be together.

posted June 23, 2017 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
For me, this is a tricky question.

1. The Nodes, imo, behave in a similar manner to the waxing and waning of the Moon. In the empty darkness of the New Moon the Sun's light is absorbed and replenishes Luna. Full, the Moon then reflects this image back to the Sun, which he loves, then releases that energy into the dark expanses of the night. The Sun, from our experience on earth, behaves in a similar way. At dawn he rises, radiates warmth and light upon the planet. At dusk he sets, rests to replenish his depleted stocks.

2. All of the planets, according to Martin Shulman in his Karmic Astrology series, radiate and absorb energy interchangeably.

3. Unlike the planets, the Nodes are more limited in scope. At each point (NN or SN) they do one or the other, but never both. So the NN is where you take in, and the SN is where you release.

It can be extrapolated that a NN + Venus contact, minus SN interactions elsewhere, can become tricky. At those times when Venus is radiating energy all is good; Venus finds a receptive consumer for her energy, and the NN have a provider. Drama arises when Venus is tapped out and switch to absorption mode; NN may view Venus as "unproductive" & Venus may view NN as draining.

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posted June 27, 2017 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by thequeen:
Often when node is involved in synastry with your personal planet there is a Karmic debt you need to pay off to the planet person. Whether or not the relation can be carried forward depends on other aspects. With South node conjunction you'll always find, that the planet person drifts away when the debt is paid off.
Hope this helps

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posted June 27, 2017 10:41 AM            

My venus is in Gemini and his NN is in Gemini meaning SN in Sag.

He could be elusive and we didn't really spend a lot of time together. Also gemini venus is about communication that type thing so I think I pressed those issues a lot.

posted June 27, 2017 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
This is very true!!! Whenever my Sn is touched by another persons planet they leave, when it is the other way around, I left the situation.

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I thought the planet person was indepted to the SN-person??

posted July 08, 2017 05:37 AM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:

I thought the planet person was indepted to the SN-person??

But yes you´re right, I also noticed that the planet person is the one who leaves.

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I have read it both ways of whom owes whom something.

My last relationship his Sn conj my jupiter, felt like I told him a lot about things and how to view them. He every now and then would give me advice. I never saw him as dumb or anything, just very demeaning at times and I saw threw some of the games he tried to play as well as he is committed to staying single. ( what a guy says when he is just not that interested) I think in the long run, even though I couldn't see what I was learning from him, I kind of have more of his actions with my new relationship. That or I felt that I learned a few things the hard way. Not really sure.