posted November 27, 2014 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I always found that an intricate bonding, too, in the charts of my parents, the house-sign-affinity.

his Moon in 8th house - her Sun in Scorpio (his Moon opposes her Sun, too).

both Suns in 5th house - his Sun in Aquarius (Sun square Sun)

there is probably more, but I found these intriguing also cause they emphasize their synastric Tsquare of the luminaries some more, and cushion it possibly.

for my friend and her husband, out of the top of my head

his Sun in Cappy - her Sun in 4th house
his Sun and Moon in 1st house - her Moon in Aries
his Moon in Aquarius - her Moon in 11th house

his Sun and Moon in 1st house - her Venus and Mars in Libra
his Moon in Aquarius - her Venus and Mars in 5th house

his Mars is in 5th house, her Venus and Mars in 5th house as well

his Venus in 10th house - her DESC in Capricorn

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Both couples have the Sun/Moon too. Very interesting!

posted November 27, 2014 05:05 PM            

Yeah it's in the pdf section. Next to the house degrees there's a section listing each sign of the zodiac (it's labelled 'Sign Begin'). Next to the Aries symbol it shows the house sign degree of the 1st house cusp (what house degree zero Aries sits at). Next to the Taurus symbol it shows the house sign degree of the 2nd house cusp. And so on through the zodiac.

The house degree of where each sign begins shows the degrees of our 'house sign' house cusps. For instance, the house sign degree of where Leo starts shows the location of the 5th house cusp.

Next to the Aries symbol in my house sign pdf it shows the number '4' ahead of a degree value. The '4' indicates that the sign Aries starts in my 4th house, and the degree value shows where in my 4th house the sign Aries begins. Aries starting in the 4th house gives me a house sign Cancer Asc. The degree value shows me the degree of my house sign Asc.

It goes like this...

COLUMN 1
Sign symbol (represents house sign houses, Aries = 1st house, Taurus = 2nd house, Gemini = 3rd house, etc).

COLUMN 2
House number (represents what house a tropical sign starts in. If the tropical sign Aries starts in house 4, then the house sign Asc is Cancer. House number = signs in the house sign chart).

posted November 27, 2014 05:18 PM            

The house IC 3 Virgo is conjunct my tropical Venus (3), and it also conjuncts my tropical Sun/Moon midpoint, 2.33 Virgo.

posted November 28, 2014 03:04 AM            

my house ASC is on 26 Gemini, which puts my natal Sun-Mercury on its DESC.

house MC is on 19 Aries conjunct my Chiron.

posted November 28, 2014 03:11 AM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
How does it look in Placidus?

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her hSun opposing his Venus-Jupiter
her hVenus square his Mars-NN-opposition
her hMars conjunct his Uranus
her hPluto trine his Sun-Juno-trine
her hChiron conjunct his Saturn-ASC (same as with equal)
her hBML conjunct his DESC

posted November 28, 2014 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

There are also some really awesome new natal aspects revealed when using placidus house sign placements. .

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this is a big thing in the Huber astrology, though they use Koch houses exclusively.

"This method can be further broken down into three distinct charts:

posted November 28, 2014 03:26 AM            

The Nodal chart, is another speciality and not the same as the DRaco chart. It starts with your North node as 00 Aries, but then it rotates backwards.

For example, my Nn is 10 Sag

so my 1st house would start at 10 Sag, my 2nd house would then be at 10 Scorpio and so on, it is a bit of a drag to calculate where the planets end up. But basically it is our Draco chart, just in backward motion. lol
The solstice point to the Draco chart as we know it.

So in my normal Draco Chart I have Sun on 16 Aries, int he Huber nodal chart those 16 degrees would be in the opposite direction from 00 Aries, hence ending up on 14 Pisces/ 12th house.

posted November 28, 2014 03:36 AM            

my isolated Venus-Pluto-square in the natal chart (Huge inner tension), becomes a very well rounded integrated learning figure in the house chart.

Pluto, Venus, Neptune-NN, Moon all interconnected (they only use the ptolemaic aspects plus semisextile and quinkunx).

the Pluto-Venus-square even becomes a close trine, as in the Koch-house chart Pluto is at about 6° of the 10th house and Veus at 4° of the 2nd house.

this is not true anymore using Placidus
Here Venus has no aspect to Pluto whatsoever, but is just connected in a minor learning triangle to Mars (semisextile) and Moon (semisextile) and Mars and Moon trine, though the dotted lines means that at least one way the orbs are too wide (Huber astrology orbs of course).

mars: 26° Pisces
Venus: 24° Aries
Moon. 23° Taurus

However you can easily see that Venus is on the Mars/Moon-mp, housewise.

Pluto is in a larger learning triangle with Mars-Neptune-NN and Saturn, which pulls the rather isolated Saturn in terms of the natal chart, more into integration.

in the equal house chart the aspect gestalt of course doesn`t change from natal to house chart.

posted November 28, 2014 03:46 AM            

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posted November 28, 2014 03:55 AM            

The aspects between house-charts seem to be the primary ones they check, as those show the "everyday-life" of a couple, how we can deal with each other, when we have to decide whose turn it is to clear out the trash and things like that. More than that it is the Here and Now-situation of a couple. not the potential, but what or how the potential will manifest.

the bridge-clicks have more to do with projections and as I suppose growthpotential.

posted November 28, 2014 04:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Lotis,

our house Suns are conjunct!

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posted November 28, 2014 04:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
in fact your house chart relates to some of my natal positions

your hVenus opposite my Pluto (1)
your hVenus conjunct my IC (3)
your hMars conjunct my Mars (2)
your hMars possibly conjunct my ASC (4)
your h Jupiter conjunct my Pluto exact
your hJupiter conjunct my MC (4)
your hSaturn conjunct my Sun-Mercury (2)
your hUranus conjunct my BML (1)
your hPluto conjunct my Pallas exact
your hSN conjunct my Priapus and Logos. lol
your hAvx conjunct my BML, too of course.
your hIC conjunct my MC (3)
your hIC conjunct my Pluto (1)

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posted November 28, 2014 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What we are doing here in synastry the Huber school calls "click-charts" or "click-chart-comparision", and the comparision from house chart to natal they call "bridge-clicks".

The aspects between house-charts seem to be the primary ones they check, as those show the "everyday-life" of a couple, how we can deal with each other, when we have to decide whose turn it is to clear out the trash and things like that. More than that it is the Here and Now-situation of a couple. not the potential, but what or how the potential will manifest.

the bridge-clicks have more to do with projections and as I suppose growthpotential.

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Interesting. I've focused mostly on the placidus house charts, because that's what I always interpret natal charts with.

House chart aspects relating to the externals of 'everyday life' makes sense, it shows how different areas of our lives interact.

You know, I did read a book by an astrologer a while back (forgot her name) who said that she noticed that placidus house cusps seemed indicate psychological orientation. As in, something transiting over your Placidus 5th house cusp would give you a 'feeling'.

On the other hand she noticed that the Koch house cusps are event oriented. A planet transiting over your Koch 5th house cusp would cause an event to happen.

Perhaps the difference between Placidus and Koch concerns how we feel about things vs what happens. Like with romantic taste... The relationship houses according to Placidus might show our internal evaluation of what we like. Perhaps Koch shows what actually happens though (the 5th and the 8th house cusps are changed with Koch).

posted November 28, 2014 07:25 AM            

On the other hand I also read the deduction of an astrologer, who was explaining that and why the calculation of Koch houses, in terms of the intermediate housecusps, is wrong (mathematically, astronomically and spherical I think).

posted November 28, 2014 07:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Spooky. Yet another reason why you say what I'm thinking so much!

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posted November 28, 2014 08:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
In my house chart according to Huber (they say it only works with Koch houses, but I just donīt like Koch, nevertheless in terms of Koch houses)

my isolated Venus-Pluto-square in the natal chart (Huge inner tension), becomes a very well rounded integrated learning figure in the house chart.

Pluto, Venus, Neptune-NN, Moon all interconnected (they only use the ptolemaic aspects plus semisextile and quinkunx).

the Pluto-Venus-square even becomes a close trine, as in the Koch-house chart Pluto is at about 6° of the 10th house and Veus at 4° of the 2nd house.

this is not true anymore using Placidus
Here Venus has no aspect to Pluto whatsoever, but is just connected in a minor learning triangle to Mars (semisextile) and Moon (semisextile) and Mars and Moon trine, though the dotted lines means that at least one way the orbs are too wide (Huber astrology orbs of course).

mars: 26° Pisces
Venus: 24° Aries
Moon. 23° Taurus

However you can easily see that Venus is on the Mars/Moon-mp, housewise.

Pluto is in a larger learning triangle with Mars-Neptune-NN and Saturn, which pulls the rather isolated Saturn in terms of the natal chart, more into integration.

in the equal house chart the aspect gestalt of course doesn`t change from natal to house chart.

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Which one do you feel suits you best? The trine or the MT?

I don't quite follow with the node chart: so it's supposed to show our major flaw? lol

posted November 28, 2014 08:45 AM            

My tropical Minor Triangle between Moon/Neptune peaking in my Mercury/Pluto/Mars stellium becomes a MT with Neptune Saturn stellium. So Saturn substitutes the Moon. It is interesting because Saturn is disp by the Moon in my natal, Moon rules DSC and Saturn is on DSC.

In the Koch house chart:

Moon is peregrine
I no longer have the Venus/Neptune square

it doesn't resonate much

posted November 28, 2014 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Which one do you feel suits you best? The trine or the MT?

I don't quite follow with the node chart: so it's supposed to show our major flaw? lol

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I canīt say, not really.

posted November 28, 2014 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I have only one difference between my natal and the Placidus house chart.

My tropical Minor Triangle between Moon/Neptune peaking in my Mercury/Pluto/Mars stellium becomes a MT with Neptune Saturn stellium. So Saturn substitutes the Moon. It is interesting because Saturn is disp by the Moon in my natal, Moon rules DSC and Saturn is on DSC.

In the Koch house chart:

Moon is peregrine
I no longer have the Venus/Neptune square

it doesn't resonate much

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Well I was just quoting the Huber school; and well, of course my koch house chart looks tempting, nevertheless the fact that the calculation of Koch houses seems to be wrong, is a huge issue for me.

so I would stick to Placidus, or maybe equal. Equal house seem to be very intriguing in the house chart bewteen mr Sag and me.

They give us.

my hPluto conjunct his hVenus (00 and 02 11th house or Aquarius, which is on our composite ASC on 1 Aquarius)

posted November 28, 2014 09:09 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ceri, we have Placidus hMoons conjunct Mine is at 28°52'17" Taurus. And conjunct my natal Mars, hm.

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but just barely. 5 degrees. pfft.

but funny isnīt it?