posted November 28, 2014 07:22 PM              

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I don't think this holds true in my relationship :S

I'm virgo sun in 4th
Pisces moon in 10th
Libra mercur in 4th
Scorp venus in 5th
Virgo mars in 4th
Cancer jup in 12
Scorp pluto in 5th
Rest is capricorn in 6th

My boyfriend is libra sun in 5th
Pisces moon in 11th
Virgo merc in 5th
Libra venus in 5th
Gemini mars in 12th
Leo jupiter in 3rd
Scorp pluto in 6th
Cap saturn in 8th

Rest is cap in 7th

I see no connections there at all...

And its the same with my closest and best friend, she has 12th house planets, 1st house, 3rd house and 7th... her sun is scorp in 10th and I have no personal planets in cap or 8th house placement...

I just dont get this theory actually

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Actually you do have some connections.

Your Sun/Mars in Virgo & Moon in Pisces
His Moon in Pisces & Mars in 12th

Your Venus/Sun in 5th
His Venus in 5th

posted November 28, 2014 09:42 PM            

In the synastry with my Guardian, his SUN is 8H, and MOON 5H. My MOON is in SCO with LEO dwad. My SUN is also 2H, so there's a great polarity. My natal 3H MOON also carries the Geminian energy his DSC needs for more traditional relating.

His MERC is 8H as well; my MERC is SCO.

His VENUS is 9H, in late LEO. My MARS is 3H in early SAG; my VENUS is also SAG dwad.

posted November 29, 2014 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Actually you do have some connections.

Your Sun/Mars in Virgo & Moon in Pisces
His Moon in Pisces & Mars in 12th

Your Venus/Sun in 5th
His Venus in 5th

Check your angles and their rulerships too, see if they mirror/complement one another's.

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We also have something else I think is astrology affinities... he is libra sun, and I have venus in 5th house (and his venus conjuncts my sun in synastry)
And I am a virgo sun and he have mercury in 5th house (and we have sun conjunction mercury in synastry double whammy)

posted November 29, 2014 07:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Actually you do have some connections.

Your Sun/Mars in Virgo & Moon in Pisces
His Moon in Pisces & Mars in 12th

Your Venus/Sun in 5th
His Venus in 5th

Check your angles and their rulerships too, see if they mirror/complement one another's.

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Yes, you have some very important connections here, Sun Moon are often enough, but you also have Mars and Venus involved.

Have you checked your house chart degrees, to see if they're actually conjunct/opposed?

Choose Huber house chart in Web default style, then Placidus in House System, instead of default.

Enter the pdf file of the Huber house chart and you will see the corresonding sign and degree of your house placements. See if it matches the other's natal placements.

posted November 29, 2014 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I've always loved this.

In the synastry with my Guardian, his SUN is 8H, and MOON 5H. My MOON is in SCO with LEO dwad. My SUN is also 2H, so there's a great polarity. My natal 3H MOON also carries the Geminian energy his DSC needs for more traditional relating.

His MERC is 8H as well; my MERC is SCO.

His VENUS is 9H, in late LEO. My MARS is 3H in early SAG; my VENUS is also SAG dwad.

Just a couple of examples that I like.

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This connection between the house chart and duads is really stupendous.

posted November 29, 2014 07:15 AM            

hDESC conjunct Sun (0) I think a solar partner/partnership style is strongly suggested here
hMC conjunct Chiron (0) - yay! this must be you being a teacher, right??

hJupiter opposite Neptune (1)
hJupiter conjunct SN (1)
hJupiter conjunct DESC (4) - this suggests a happy family/friends environment, don't you think? and protection overall

hSaturn conjunct Uranus (2) - how do you see this? as a disciplinary effect on your Uranus? Whenever your Uranus is activated, so is Saturn, by house.

hUranus opp. Priapus (0) I see a nice connection here with your Aqua Moon

hNeptune ocnjunct IC (3)
hNN conjunct IC (3)

very interesting this one...it seems the life direction is towards Neptune/IC.

hPluto conjunct Venus (1)
hPluto conjunct Vesta (3)

that is awesome, in connection with your square...all eggs in one basket, right? you have a very Plutonian/Vesta Venus

hChiron conjunct Saturn (0) haha more teaching here

hCeres conjunctSN (0) an additional interesting fact that you have some sort of protection, maybe a strong connection with the mother as well, or some "motherly" friends/protectors, and/or a guardian angel

hJuno conjunct Karma (0) - ok, so this makes your Karma a fated point for your partner, your partner should touch that

hPholus conjunct DESC (0)
hPholus opposite Lust (0)
a surprising partner/union, or one changing your life for you

hEros and hVertex conjunct PoM, Eros/Psyche-mp, Actor (1-2)

hPsyche opposite Valentine (0)
hCupido conjunct Valentine (1)

hBML opposipte Amor (1)

hValentine conjunct Jupiter (1)

these are all very romantic/erotic and lovey dovey to me

posted November 29, 2014 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This connection between the house chart and duads is really stupendous.

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It really is, Lee. I've always loved affinities. They're the 'hidden story' to so many things. Even our patterns. For example, the AQU/11H MARS connexion. His MARS is late Libra (Air again) just as my Twin's is late Aquarius. But my Guardian's MARS is 11H.

I sure like them 11H/AQUA MARS men for some reason! Kind of quirky, for a 12H Virgo VENUS, I've always thought. Perhaps it's the SAG dwad? Because 28º Pisces in the House Chart, doesn't quite explain the 'a-HA!' connexion.

posted November 29, 2014 04:42 PM              

How do I figure out the degrees of my new houses and planets?

posted November 29, 2014 04:44 PM            

The house number corresponds to the sign - for example: 2 means Taurus etc.

posted November 29, 2014 04:59 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's in the rest of the table, the one you cut out

The house number corresponds to the sign - for example: 2 means Taurus etc.

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posted November 29, 2014 05:01 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Here we can see the house cusps only - we can see your house ASC is at 24 Scorpio (corresponding to 8) and your IC at 16 Aqua (corrsp. to 11).

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Ah I think I'm starting to get it now, thanks!

posted November 30, 2014 05:11 AM            

For example, your house Sun corresponds to 0.52 deg. Taurus etc.

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posted November 30, 2014 06:09 AM            

Anyway he shares a birthday with mr SAg (diff. year), so his Sun falls onto my Sun-Mercury-as well.
I suppose though it was too close to my own birthday, as we were literally just one day apart (same year, too).
It just was a little too much.

Apart from that Mr Sag is the first guy ever, who targets my SunMercury like that. Not justw ith a little saturn trine or so, but really pulling it out into the spotlight, which leaves me literally no room to hide.

I would never have been able to deal with that had we met earlier, I mean in my teenage years or so.
It is only in recent years that I have grown into my Sun-Mercury for real, and not felt like it is an untouchable, unreachable, invisible spot for others to access.
Well it is a duet, meaning it is not integrated with the rest of my chart, and unaspected (of course there are minor aspects, like the septile to Moon, and a wide sextile to uranus, which helps, but it is not strong enough to make for integration).

On the other hand it is is loaded with energy, not just being on the GC, but also on the Jupiter/Pluto-mp. it`s not just a little light, if switche on, it is in spotlight mode, all or nothing.
But yeah I have become more and more comfortable with it and accepting of it over the years.

"hMC conjunct Chiron (0) - yay! this must be you being a teacher, right??"
Yes, but being a teacher teaches me about myself a lot as well.
Interesting this is conjunct our composite SN, and Mr Sag`s Pluto is on my hIC. While Pluto is generational, in his case his Pluto rules the 8th house and is placed in 7th house.

"this suggests a happy family/friends environment, don't you think? and protection overall"
Yes, I think so.

"hSaturn conjunct Uranus (2) - how do you see this? as a disciplinary effect on your Uranus? Whenever your Uranus is activated, so is Saturn, by house."
I suppose it fits, I am a bit of Saturn/Uranus, here this is Scorpio/ 8th house.
A lot more Uranian in my personality than my external inibited behaviour in terms of intimate relationships might make you believe.
Give me a bit of an external Structure (hSaturn in 8th) and you might find a lot of freedom internally.

Interestingly Mr Sag has Uranus in Scorpio and in 8th house, though it is too wide for a conjunction to my Saturn I suppose (7°). In Koch houses however the conjunction between my hSaturn and his hUranus is under 2 degrees (but there is no conjunction of my hSaturn to my nUranus in this one)

"hUranus opp. Priapus (0) I see a nice connection here with your Aqua Moon "
Yes, me, too.

"very interesting this one...it seems the life direction is towards Neptune/IC."
A very Aries/ 1st house direction. Which seems to contradict both Neptune and IC. It is not as swampy and gentle as one might expect. But my soulbasis and what I am developing into (well NN is on ASC and in 1st house, too) is actually connected with some sort of Ego-thrust. Everyone seems to want to shed their Ego, and my chart seems to imply I am suppose to develop mine some more. lol

"hPluto conjunct Venus (1)
hPluto conjunct Vesta (3)

that is awesome, in connection with your square...all eggs in one basket, right? you have a very Plutonian/Vesta Venus"
Yes.

hPluto on nVesta-Venus is 10th house / Capricorn with nVestaVenus in 1st house.

Mr Sag has hVesta opposite nPluto

hVesta in 1st house,
n Pluto in 7th house

and of course his nPluto also squares his CappyVenus.

Interestingly

his hVesta 23° 1st house
his nPluto 21° Libra in 7th house
my hVenus 24° 1st house
my hVesta 20° 1st house

"hJuno conjunct Karma (0) - ok, so this makes your Karma a fated point for your partner, your partner should touch that"
Maybe, would be exhausting though. Juno in Pisces in 3rd, intercepted, squares Karma in Gemini in 7th exact.
There is something to learn I suppose.
The Juno/Karma-mp is on 1 Taurus, right on my 5th house cusp, Moon/Saturn-mp and opposping Uranus. *sighs*
I suppose you are right, no choice in that. Possibly the 1 degree of fixed signs play a role too, with the midpoing and Uranus and 5th cusp falling there, oh and of course my Priapus on 00 Leo, too. And currently my pr Moon on 00 Leo I think (or is it already 1degree?

"hPholus conjunct DESC (0)
hPholus opposite Lust (0)
a surprising partner/union, or one changing your life for you"
Yes, it also manifests the internal theme that is already highlighted by Pholus on 6 Pisces in 3rd house, intercepted, squaring my ASC and Lust on 7 Sagittarius.
I sort of project my own internal Pholus onto the house Pholus on my DESC, and from there or (any 4th harmonic position) the external stimulus will come.

posted November 30, 2014 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
maybe it would be interesting to see which natal sign-aspects gets externalized by a house-connection?

like in my case natally I have Venus-Pluto square and my hPluto conjuncts my nVenus?

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If I understood correctly, you mean those house/natal conjunctions reflecting an actual aspect in the natal chart, right? What do you think it brings?

posted November 30, 2014 07:54 AM            

It is just a thought, not even a theory for now, but I was thinking our natal is sort of our blueprint, and to manifest at a certain time, it needs to be activated somehow, which usually is the job of progressions and transits of course.

But Iwas just thinking that if we have a house-sign-overlap, it might serve as stronger manifestation-potential too (still has to be activated synastrically or through progressions or transits probably).

Well, with the houses it might seem as if the trigger comes from outside. But that is just because we react to this certain trigger point BECAUSE of our natal blueprint.

I probably will always react to Venus-Pluto as it is part of my internal makeup. Interestingly it seems like the Pluto is brought from the outside to my natal Venus.

I really wonder if it was different if it was house Venus conjunct natal Pluto.
does someone have hVenus at around 9 degree of the 7th house?
This would activate my natal Pluto on 9 Libra.

As of now I do think this could work two ways actually:
- either the house planet, esp, in terms of non-personal planets, might be experienced as a brush of fate, and we are seemingly innocent and not responsible and just being the target of it (which is not entirely true though) and it is something "new" the other person brings to us (you know like those people who again and again meet men who will be unable to commit to them, and it is always the men who are the guilty part, but when the 6th man like this crosses your path, I think it might be time to have a good look at your OWN behavioral pattern, there might be something that attracts those men int o your life)

- or we might externally behave in a way the houseplanet suggests, ourself (and consciously so)

but as I said just random thoughts

Speaking of projection scenarios

let me switch to equal houses for a moment

Mr Sag and me both have Venus-Pluto-square natally (mine from 1st/2nd to 11th; his from 11th to 8th - notice something ? )

in equal I do not have the house-natal connection, but synastrically

my hVenus 29°01 1st
my hPluto 2°03 11th

my nVenus 6°07 Cap
my nPluto 9°04 Libra

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his hVenus 0°53 11th
his hPluto 26°20 7th

his nVenus 25°55 Capricorn
his nPluto 21°23 Libra

in equal there is the interesting house linkup of Venus and Pluto, mutually.

this does not work like it in Placidus though there we have

my hVenus 24°42 1st
my hPluto 4°38 10th

my nVenus 6°07 Cap
my nPluto 9°04 Libra

(interestingly my hVenus conjuncts my Dr Venus by 1 degree)

his hVenus 12^°24 11th house
his hPluto 15°58 7th house

his n Venus 25°55 Cap
his nPluto 21°23 Libra

posted November 30, 2014 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yes that is how I meant it.

It is just a thought, not even a theory for now, but I was thinking our natal is sort of our blueprint, and to manifest at a certain time, it needs to be activated somehow, which usually is the job of progressions and transits of course.

But Iwas just thinking that if we have a house-sign-overlap, it might serve as stronger manifestation-potential too (still has to be activated synastrically or through progressions or transits probably).

Well, with the houses it might seem as if the trigger comes from outside. But that is just because we react to this certain trigger point BECAUSE of our natal blueprint.

I probably will always react to Venus-Pluto as it is part of my internal makeup. Interestingly it seems like the Pluto is brought from the outside to my natal Venus.

I really wonder if it was different if it was house Venus conjunct natal Pluto.
does someone have hVenus at around 9 degree of the 7th house?
This would activate my natal Pluto on 9 Libra.

As of now I do think this could work two ways actually:
- either the house planet, esp, in terms of non-personal planets, might be experienced as a brush of fate, and we are seemingly innocent and not responsible and just being the target of it (which is not entirely true though) and it is something "new" the other person brings to us (you know like those people who again and again meet men who will be unable to commit to them, and it is always the men who are the guilty part, but when the 6th man like this crosses your path, I think it might be time to have a good look at your OWN behavioral pattern, there might be something that attracts those men int o your life)

- or we might externally behave in a way the houseplanet suggests, ourself (and consciously so)

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Looking at my house/sign conjunctions activating a natal aspect, I see:

my hSun on MC activates Sun sextile MC
hMoon on Mercury activates Moon sextile Mercury, the base of my Yod - that's a very interesting one, with Moon ruling DSC
hMars on MC is backed by a Mars/MC semisquare
hSaturn on Sun by Sun sextile Saturn
hNN on Lilith - Lilith sextile NN/POF almost exact
hLust on NN by a Lust/NN exact semisquare
hKarma on natal Moon exact - Karma/SN sextile Moon
This is impressive! It seems I have aspects for almost all my house/sign conjunctions.

posted December 01, 2014 08:17 AM            

I hope you can join us at some point

A mini-research with some famous/and not couples in my database:

Liz Taylor/Richard Burton

her hVenus 3.34 Cancer - his nVenus 4 Cap
her hJupiter 15 Scorp - his nSun 17 Scorp
her hPluto 29 Libra - his nMars 28 Libra

being an Aries ASC, his house placements are almost identical to his natal lacements.

Angelina/Brad

her hSun 17 Aqua - his nSaturn 19 Aqua - very interesting this one, considering their natal and their synastry

her hMoon 25.24 Sag - would you look at that!!!! I'm sure you ladies all know where Brad's Sun is lol just kiddin': 25.54 Sag!

It's a WOW!, right? Wait for more :drums:

his hSun 13 Aries - guess what?? her nMoon 13.05 Aries, with Mars and Jupiter on the sides. Impressive!

degree 13 is also the degree of her Gem natal Sun.

her hMars 23 Sag, her hJupiter 29 Sag

her hVenus 29 Pisces - his nIC 27 Pisces
her hUranus 9 Cancer - his NN 11 Cancer opp Cap stellium

his hMars 26 Aries - her nChiron 26 Aries opp Uranus

his hJupiter 13 Cancer - her nSaturn 17 Cancer hm
his hUranus 16 Sag opp her Sun/Mercury
his hNN 27 Libra - her nUranus 28 Libra - so it's mutual! NN/Uranus DW

Paul Newman/Joanne Woodward

her hSun 15 Taurus widely on his IC opp his Saturn 14 Scorpio
her Moon 4.44 Taurus on his IC 8 Taurus
her hVenus 19 Taurus opp the same Saturn
her hMars 27 Aries on his Mars/Chiron 23 Aries
her hJupiter 15 Leo on his NN 14 Leo
her hNeptune 10 Scorpio on his MC/Saturn
her hNN 5 Cancer opp his Jupiter 9 Cancer

his hMoon 4.03 Taurus - her NN 4.22 taurus and her IC there
his hSaturn 7 Cap on her Saturn 9 Cap and ASC 11 Cap

they also share a bunch of house placements in Taurus.

to be continued

posted December 04, 2014 12:29 PM            

my Mercury 25 Scorpio
his Moon 23 Taurus
psychic connection

my Venus 0 Scorpio
Aphrodite 4 Scorpio
Pholus 1 Taurus
Juno 2.42 Taurus
his Uranus 3 Taurus (Uranus rules his 5th)

my Mars/Union 17 Scoprio
ASC 17 Taurus
his Amor 16 Scorpio
his Moon 23 Taurus

love connections

my Eros 26 Cancer
his Psyche 24.35 Cancer

I love this Eros/Psyche!

my Uranus/Psyche 8-9 Sag
my Lust 12 Sag
his Mars 12 Sag

my Neptune 28 Cap
his Psyche/Pallas 24-25 Cancer
psychic

my Vertex 23 Libra
his Chiron 24 Libra
his Vesta 20 Aries

Vesta on Vertex coupled with Vesta on nodal axis from my side

my Jupiter 3.54 Ta
his Uranus 3.44 Ta

my Saturn 26 Virgo
his Sun 22 Virgo
his Vertex 26 Virgo

my Pluto 21 Scorpio
his Moon 23 Taurus

Sun/Saturn and Moon/Pluto

my NN 9 Aqua
his Venus 5 Leo
his Juno 11 Leo

Venus/Juno on SN coupled with my Vesta on his

my Lilith 15 Aries
his Cupido 12 Libra

my Pallas 2 Aries
his Lust/Valentine 5 Aries
I love my Pallas in Aries, she belongs there, opp my Mars lol

my Vesta 24 Sag
his NN 26 Gem
his Saturn 29 Gem

my Priapus/Amor 26 Libra
his Chiron 24 Libra

what about yours?

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posted December 04, 2014 09:22 PM            

My NODES are 18° LEO-AQU. His are 04° TAU-SCO. But I'd never noticed that, in the Huber House Chart, they're 18° LEO-AQU. Exactly. His NNODE at 04°TAU51 transforms into 18°LEO30. I knew it was 5H, but wow. That took my breath away.

We have a few other staggering linkages in the Huber degrees.

• TISIPHONE conjunct SNODE (0°44)
• HADES conjunct SNODE (2°16)

Quite a difference a single 0°30 can make in the Huber degrees. I'd no idea. The real revelation was finding the TISIPHONE/HADES on my SNODE.

Get this, though. While my poor CHIRON is no longer suffering from his TISIPHONE/HADES, it's now square it. There's some logic to it. My CHIRON is at 07°SAG27 in the Huber chart; it squares my Huber NODES (06°VIR45) by 1°22. No big change there. But the fact it remains connected to his TISIPHONE/HADES is a rather alarming thing. To me, it seems the roots run deep; they're karmic as well as environmental.

Good news is that my CHIRON is linked to my NODES in the Huber chart. I'm in the right circumstances to clear this karma. Further, his TISIPHONE/HADES is linked to what I feel it should be. My SNODE -- not my CHIRON. This is deeply encouraging.

I wonder what the resonance indicates, of his Huber NODES being the same degree axis as my natal tropical NODES. Clearly, that's a BIG thing. In some ways, it puts his TISIPHONE/HADES in the 'skipped step' position of the Huber NODES. Not yet sure how to read that. His environmental and present karma, the ways in which his karma has developed or changed over the course of his life here, in this eigenstate / timeline, presents the TISIPHONE/HADES as a karmic skipped step? Curious, given it's my CHIRON in that position, with his TISIPHONE/HADES right on top of it.

Us 'sharing' the NODAL axis -- my inherited karma, and his environmental karma -- could be the key I was seeking in regards to how to end the cycle of violence -- here, there, and everywhere.

I feel when the Huber degrees are taken in conjunction with the tropical, and, obviously, Draco system, they can prove the missing links to unresolved karma. We can now see how a karmic axis could change as a result of living in this observed eigenstate; in this particular universe.

posted December 05, 2014 04:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
The wildest so far was this:

My NODES are 18° LEO-AQU. His are 04° TAU-SCO. But I'd never noticed that, in the Huber House Chart, they're [b]18° LEO-AQU. Exactly. His NNODE at 04°TAU51 transforms into 18°LEO30. I knew it was 5H, but wow. That took my breath away.

We have a few other staggering linkages in the Huber degrees.

• TISIPHONE conjunct SNODE (0°44)
• HADES conjunct SNODE (2°16)

Quite a difference a single 0°30 can make in the Huber degrees. I'd no idea. The real revelation was finding the TISIPHONE/HADES on my SNODE.

Get this, though. While my poor CHIRON is no longer suffering from his TISIPHONE/HADES, it's now square it. There's some logic to it. My CHIRON is at 07°SAG27 in the Huber chart; it squares my Huber NODES (06°VIR45) by 1°22. No big change there. But the fact it remains connected to his TISIPHONE/HADES is a rather alarming thing. To me, it seems the roots run deep; they're karmic as well as environmental.

Good news is that my CHIRON is linked to my NODES in the Huber chart. I'm in the right circumstances to clear this karma. Further, his TISIPHONE/HADES is linked to what I feel it should be. My SNODE -- not my CHIRON. This is deeply encouraging.

I wonder what the resonance indicates, of his Huber NODES being the same degree axis as my natal tropical NODES. Clearly, that's a BIG thing. In some ways, it puts his TISIPHONE/HADES in the 'skipped step' position of the Huber NODES. Not yet sure how to read that. His environmental and present karma, the ways in which his karma has developed or changed over the course of his life here, in this eigenstate / timeline, presents the TISIPHONE/HADES as a karmic skipped step? Curious, given it's my CHIRON in that position, with his TISIPHONE/HADES right on top of it.

Us 'sharing' the NODAL axis -- my inherited karma, and his environmental karma -- could be the key I was seeking in regards to how to end the cycle of violence -- here, there, and everywhere.

I feel when the Huber degrees are taken in conjunction with the tropical, and, obviously, Draco system, they can prove the missing links to unresolved karma. We can now see how a karmic axis could change as a result of living in this observed eigenstate; in this particular universe.

I wonder ... perhaps my tropical NODES aligning exactly with his Huber NODAL axis is an indication of how much he's needed me to restore a certain balance and clear karma. It's obviously something. I'm just not quite sure WHAT yet. [/B]

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I think this superposition of the nodes is very potent indeed. Technically, he needs to apply the energy of his nodal signs to his nodal houses and you're showing him how to do it, your life should be an example for him in this respect. You are a general model to him.

posted December 06, 2014 07:54 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Lavender, the "house degree" column is the degree of the planet, and the house number is the corresponding sign

For example, your house Sun corresponds to 0.52 deg. Taurus etc.

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posted December 06, 2014 08:05 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How are we doing, LD?

I hope you can join us at some point

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Good, I'm almost done with listing the aspects.
I started on it a week ago, just didn't have a chance to finish it cause of my finals before the holidays lol.