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ReeseC
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posted December 02, 2014 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[/i] Synastry aspects between natal charts to describe connections between two people. We look at this after first determining each persons relationship needs by studying their natal charts. It is essential to look at both charts first because you really do need to know what the other persons planets are plugging into. Person A’s planets will work like a permanent transit on person B’s planets when they are together, so its important to see just what this planet is triggering in the others chart. This is why reading synastry aspects in isolation can give a false impression.

Best Synastry Aspects.For example, a couple may have the Venus conjunct Mars aspect in their synastry. Bingo! But hey, what if that Mars is aggravating an already seething Venus? What if B’s Venus is on the star Algol and conjunct Pluto? Ouch! All that blissful, romantic sexual compatibility could be blown away by extreme obsession, jealousy and even abuse. This may actually be OK if both partners are rather Plutonian, they could even channel this energy into S & M, making it cathartic and healing for them both. So again you need to keep in mind the basic personalities of each partner.

When we look at synastry, we have to sift through all the aspects to get an overall picture. But first we do have to see if we are getting hits on the basics, which I think are important for the long term prospects of a couple. For me the basics are the Sun, Moon and Ascendant (the souls trinity) in aspect to the sexual planets (Venus and Mars) and the social planets of balance (Jupiter and Saturn). If you are a karmic astrologer then the Vertex and the North Node are also important. It’s these basics that I use in the soulmate test that I do as part of my evaluation critera in synastry readings. To me they are the foundations of a successful relationship.


Best Synastry Aspects


1. Sun Sun Synastry Aspects
The Sun is the core of our being and identity so harmonious aspects between Sun’s in synastry will usually be easy going. You are both on the same page basically. You will not challenge each others egos. You are so at ease with the other person that you support each other by just being who you are. Even the opposition isn’t bad because there is a nice magnetic opposites attract feeling. You feel like you compliment each other, that together you are one. The square is the most difficult but it’s still a connection so it is compelling and dynamic. Queen Victoria and Prince Albert had this one, it’s more like “I have met my match”. Ego will take a beating, but they will whip each other into shape.


2. Moon Moon Synastry Aspects
The Moon is our habits and our auto-pilot, how we instinctively react. The Moon is how we like to be nurtured and cuddled. So its preferable for the Moon’s to be harmonious in synastry if we want our relationship to feel like a comfy pair of slippers. Domestics are more likely to occur with hard aspects and even the conjunction because the sensitivity that comes with the Moon might just be rubbing a bit too close to the bone when the Moon’s are onto of each other. Either that or it could just be a little too symbiotic, merging into each other so that you don’t know where one ends and the other begins, like you are still in the womb.
Sun Moon Synastry Aspects

This is the classic marriage indicator simply because it is what marriage is all about. The balance of day and night is what keeps the earth fertile. Ying and yang, male and female, partnership and balance. Fertility and growth are the fundamentals of a successful relationship. Even if you are not having children together you want your soul to thrive as well as to be materially comfortable. Harmonious aspects facilitate this fecundity. The opposition makes for a sexy polarity. The square will put obstacles in the way of growth, but the growth may end up being more durable because it will have forced you to build up more resilience. Again Victoria & Albert had this too.
Sun Moon Ascendant Synastry Aspects

The Ascendant/Desendant is the relationship axis, it is a work in progress, it describes our journey through life and how we adjust ourselves when we are confronted by people and new experiences. The Ascendant is the vehicle of the Soul, while the Luminaries (Sun and Moon) are the drivers. The Sun would be driving in a more conscious, purposeful way whereas the Moon would be more auto-pilot and going with the flow of the river. A sympathetic relationship between the Sun or Moon and the Ascendant means you all want to go in the same direction. Because of this you should both achieve more together, get things done swiftly and as stress free as possible because you are not fighting over the steering wheel. Horse and rider are as one. There is a feeling of “Us against the world.”

3.Venus Mars Synastry Aspects
Of course for most people sex is important in a relationship so it is preferable to have Venus and Mars in aspect. It really doesn’t matter if the aspect is hard or soft, well it might in the bedroom perhaps…These two connecting more or less guarantees sexual chemistry that doesn’t dim too much after the initial excitement fades. The hard aspects seem to make it more potent and exciting. With that also comes the potential for more aggression and a clash of libidos, when one partner wants it and the other isn’t in the mood. The magic Venus/Mars aspect on its own is not enough to hold a couple together. But you certainly need this or another sexual aspect if you want long term zing.

4. North Node Synastry Aspects
The North Node in synastry is hugely important because it shows where our soul needs to go to evolve. It is very sweet to see this feature in synastry between a couple, because it shows they are helping each other down the same spiritual path. The North Node conjunct Vertex is one of the top indicators for marriage. Other than the Vertex, then the Luminaries, Ascendant, Venus or Mars conjunct the North Node are going to be a winner as your relationship will be in line with your souls development. A square to the Nodes will be far more challenging and more likely to be a karmic contract type relationship where there is some excess baggage that is blocking you both and needs resolving once and for all.

5. Vertex Synastry Aspects
The Vertex works like an alternative descendant and is the point of destiny encounters. When someones sexual planet falls on this it can feel very compelling, like whirlpool it draws you in and feels incredibly fated. This sort of contact can be life changing, but it doesn’t mean it is long term. The Vertex effect is like being hit by a thunderbolt and can be enlightening. The Vertex in combination with the luminaries or Saturn is more likely to give the destined feeling mileage. With the sexual planets it could one of those crazy flings that are unforgettable.


6. Saturn Jupiter Synastry Aspects
I like to see an even spread of these two in connection with the personal planets. They are the balancers. You don’t need tons, just enough Saturn to give stamina and relationship glue and just enough Jupiter to give fun and optimism. An imbalance of either is not great. Too much Saturn without Jupiter you can get depression, meanness, obstacles and overworking. Jupiter without Saturn restraint can breed indulgence, infidelity, pipe dreams and gambling. I find the hard aspects work better with Jupiter while the soft work better with Saturn.
Sun/Moon midpoint Synastry Aspects

If we don’t have the luminaries in aspect then then this one more than makes up for it, but only if it is in hard aspect (conjunction, opposition or square). The Sun/Moon midpoint represents the balancing of the masculine and feminine within and the inner marriage. A hard aspect from partner A’s Sun, Moon, AC or Vertex to this point, brings the sun and the Moon together and makes Partner B feel whole. This is also said to be a karmic contract aspect, where one partner has promised something to the other in this lifetime. It could be something like giving the other children or even breaking them up from a stagnant or abusive relationship.


7. Mercury Synastry Aspects
Mercury in synastry is often overlooked, but in the information age it’s value is increasing. Of course communication between a couple is essential because its a bond like any other. With so much competition from social networking sites and the internet, if a couple cannot have stimulating conversations together than after the sexual buzz has worn off there is a real danger of stagnation and bordom. The Mercury aspects don’t always even need to be harmonious, they just need to be connected. A good debate can stimulate the passions and can be great foreplay. The occasional argument is healthy for purging and cleansing bottled up emotions lest they fester and become toxic.

Also mentioned of LG:

Moon/Pluto synastry aspects
Venus/Pluto synastry aspects
Venus/Chiron synastry aspects[/i]

Thought maybe the synastry experts could weigh in on this for us noobs who are looking to check on astro, or whatever else.

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starmoon
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posted December 03, 2014 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't know where this info. came from, but it's mediocre at best. the items listed can be important, especially the ASC/DSC angles, but i would say this list is definitely geared to beginners who are just starting to look at charts. the Venus/Mars contact is a dead giveaway that a novice made this list; that aspect rarely even shows up in marriage or long-term synastries and is overhyped because it's just easy for beginners to understand. there are a ton of other aspects that you have to look at, not least of which is the house overlays, which isn't even mentioned. if you want to learn synastry read books on the subject and don't rely too much on internet lists or forums. the field of synastry was really at it's peak in the 70s, so books from that era tend to be very well-done and are better for instruction than lists you'll find online or in forums.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 03, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree it may be a basic level, but I found this list pretty good. I don't think Venus/Mars is an "overrated" aspect, it's a great aspect to have, when in an overall good synastry (with Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Saturn, angles, nodes, good overlays, rulers etc ) is like hitting the jackpot in terms of romantic and sexual compatibility and long-term attraction. At least one Venus/Mars aspect is there in great romantic relationships. Even in flings, this aspect shows a good fling with perfect Yin/Yang attraction lol I don't think there's anything out there topping a woman's Venus on a man's Mars in terms of basic attraction, romance and compatibility between a man and a woman - if the aspect satisfies both their chart's needs. Our Venus and our Mars in our charts, either for men or women, is a crucial indicator of our ideal partner. No one compares with the one completing our Venus and Mars needs (coupled with our Sun and Moon needs). It's just a layer in our charts, but in terms of relational astrology, a fundamental one. When asked about one's ideal partner, that's what I check first: their Sun and Moon needs, and their Venus and Mars needs. Mars is the natural pair of Venus and viceversa, just like the Moon is the natural pair of the Sun - and when they are paired, these two pairs, you can't get better than that.

On the other hand, nothing can top Sun/Sun Moon/Moon and Sun/Moon aspects, plus the aspects listed here (nodes, vertices, angles), and Saturn, Jupiter and Mercury are the backbone of any synastry. So what's wrong with this list anyway?

I agree house overlays are crucial, still if a synastry had everything on this list, it would be an exceptional one.

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ReeseC
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posted December 03, 2014 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you both for your input; I didn't write the article, but I thought we could add to it as a sticky for people to use as a guide when checking basic synastry.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 03, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The perception that Venus /Mars is a "myth" and doesn't come up in relationships does not reflect my experience and the examples I know. Here are some famous relationships and Venus/Mars:

Gala/Dali

her Mars conj his Venus exact, his Mars sq her Venus almost exact

Victoria/David Beckham

Venus conj Mars DW

Annette Bening/Warren Beatty

Venus/Mars DW with semisq and biquintile; composite Mars sq Venus

Camilla/Charles

Mars trine Venus

Wallis/Edward

Venus/Mars DW: sq and semisextile: composite Venus sextile Mars

Rita Wilson/Tom Hanks have an interesting "substitute": Mars conj Mars, Venus sq Venus

Eva/Juan Peron

Venus/Mars DW - trine and composite Venus conj Mars

Goldie/Kurt Russel

Venus sq Mars, composite Venus trine Mars

Catherine Zeta/Michael Douglas

Venus/Mars DW with sextile and semisq, composite Venus sextile Mars

Meryl Streep/Don

exact composite Venus/Mars opp

Princess Lillian/Prince Bertil

Venus/Mars semisq and a wide sq

Linda/Paul
semisext and a wide sq leading to composite Venus sextile Mars

Liz Taylor/Richard Burton

Venus sextile Mars and a sign opp, composite Venus sextile Mars

Paul Newman/Joanne Woodward

Venus semisext Mars, exact venus/Mars decile in comp

Brangelina

They have the substitute: Venus opp Venus coupled with Mars sq Mars leading to composite Venus trine Mars exact.

Frankly, it's almost always there, one way or another.

The couples in my personal database show the same pattern. My parents had Venus/Mars conjunction DW.


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posted December 06, 2014 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReeseC:
For me the basics are the Sun, Moon and Ascendant (the souls trinity) in aspect to the sexual planets (Venus and Mars) and the social planets of balance (Jupiter and Saturn). If you are a karmic astrologer then the Vertex and the North Node are also important. It’s these basics that I use in the soulmate test that I do as part of my evaluation critera in synastry readings. To me they are the foundations of a successful relationship.

I like this. But lets not forget Mercury aspects for good communication.

I love all the 'Best Synastry Aspects' listed. I've read the article before.

My personal top picks for love relationships are... Venus/Mars, Moon/Moon, Sun/Moon, Mercury/Mercury, Sun/Venus, Sun/Mars, Mars/Jupiter, Saturn/Jupiter, Saturn/Saturn, and plenty of Venus and Jupiter action in the overall synastry. Pluto aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, or Venus, can be magnetic. Also like the sound of Uranus/Venus and Uranus/Mercury, Neptune/Venus or Mars, and Vertex/any personal planet. Asc to Sun, Moon, Mars, or Venus is awesome as well.

Do I really have to limit myself? I like so many different kinds of aspects.

Oh, and Venus/Mars is not overrated if the 5th, 7th, or 8th houses are involved. If a person doesn't touch our attraction pattern we can have pretty much any aspect with them and only ever feel it on a platonic level. BUT if the person in question does touch our attraction patten, Venus/Mars can rock our world. Same goes for many of the other aspects typically associated with attraction. The person needs to be our 'symbolic type' on some level before we can feel romantic chemistry with them.

Speaking of the relationship houses... Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, or the Asc, aspecting the 5th, 7th, or 8th house rulers can give amazing chemistry. This is so even if the house ruler is a planet like Mercury or Saturn (I should know, Mercury rules my Dsc).

These aspects should be on every 'best aspect' list out there.

The planet that is the house ruler will vary from synastry to synastry but the theme of, say, 5th house ruler aspecting the Sun, 8th house ruler aspecting Moon, or 7th house ruler aspecting Venus, would still be felt regardless.

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