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Topic: Anyone have any experince with Saturn conjunct Ascendant in synastry?
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manderin Knowflake Posts: 400 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 10, 2015 03:21 AM
I haven't had bad experiences with this one... but then again the people I know that give me this aspect also have Jupiter conjunct their Saturn. And also anything conjunct my ascendant sextiles my stellium of planets.IP: Logged |
bumblebee Knowflake Posts: 267 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 10, 2015 03:52 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cherle: [B]I've had two great friendships with this aspect, with the other person being the Saturn. Both of them I will love always, even though they are gone from my life now. Then I've had one romantic-ish relationship with a guy whose Saturn was cj my ASC. He was very sarcastic towards me and very insecure. At first he acted like he was interested in me, then told me he didn't find me attractive, and then acted interested in me again. He keep his emotional distance from me and strung me along, never really committing to being a relationship with me. Absolutely the same with me. The conjunction is exact and saturn is his venus dispositor.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 10, 2015 04:25 PM
Just was in a relationship with Saturn conjunct AC in our comp....very stressful! I was the older person and it just felt like I was his mother. He was sweet but I have kids, I don't need another one! Even his mom was immature and he acted so much like her....they whined about everything but did nothing to change it. My Sat was in his Jupiter...I kept that in mind and worried that I was bursting his Jupiter bubble so I tried hard not to be hard in him...but eventually I just couldn't stand it and broke it off, now he's pulling his act together. But it's too little and too late! IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 10, 2015 05:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by bumblebee: [QUOTE]Originally posted by cherle: [B]I've had two great friendships with this aspect, with the other person being the Saturn. Both of them I will love always, even though they are gone from my life now. Then I've had one romantic-ish relationship with a guy whose Saturn was cj my ASC. He was very sarcastic towards me and very insecure. At first he acted like he was interested in me, then told me he didn't find me attractive, and then acted interested in me again. He keep his emotional distance from me and strung me along, never really committing to being a relationship with me. Absolutely the same with me. The conjunction is exact and saturn is his venus dispositor.
Omg...! I can relate
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 10, 2015 05:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Just was in a relationship with Saturn conjunct AC in our comp....very stressful! I was the older person and it just felt like I was his mother. He was sweet but I have kids, I don't need another one! Even his mom was immature and he acted so much like her....they whined about everything but did nothing to change it. My Sat was in his Jupiter...I kept that in mind and worried that I was bursting his Jupiter bubble so I tried hard not to be hard in him...but eventually I just couldn't stand it and broke it off, now he's pulling his act together. But it's too little and too late!
Maybe in composite you both felt it. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 10, 2015 06:01 PM
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 10, 2015 07:24 PM
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 10, 2015 10:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Maybe in composite you both felt it.
Probably, I know he feels like he couldn't do anything right....because honestly the way he did a lot of things made me question his maturity. His driving was to fast and aggressive, the way he took care of his bills was inconsistent and incurred late fees, he was 36 and lived with a single guy friend, he whined constantly....he cared a lot about ppl and would do anything for his friends but did not chose his friends wisely, they all used him. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 11, 2015 07:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Probably, I know he feels like he couldn't do anything right....because honestly the way he did a lot of things made me question his maturity. His driving was to fast and aggressive, the way he took care of his bills was inconsistent and incurred late fees, he was 36 and lived with a single guy friend, he whined constantly....he cared a lot about ppl and would do anything for his friends but did not chose his friends wisely, they all used him.
Sounds like a nightmare I wonder how the Saturn sees me. Since I have done better than her. Maybe just hates my ASC traits I have had my Saturn conjunct their Jupiter and I must admit... I admired their optimism but I never felt comfortable admitting it. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
VacantGazer Knowflake Posts: 3441 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2014
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posted January 11, 2015 06:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Do you feel put down by him???
Yes, he can be critical sometimes, but I know he does it because he cares.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 11, 2015 07:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Sounds like a nightmare I wonder how the Saturn sees me. Since I have done better than her. Maybe just hates my ASC traits I have had my Saturn conjunct their Jupiter and I must admit... I admired their optimism but I never felt comfortable admitting it.
I hope they see the good in you, maybe it could play out where timing is off for something to. Age difference could be a factor. If they do see you in a negative please don't take it personally, it's not you or them...it's just the way it is. I think he is a great person, just we are not great ppl for each other.
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 11, 2015 11:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I hope they see the good in you, maybe it could play out where timing is off for something to. Age difference could be a factor. If they do see you in a negative please don't take it personally, it's not you or them...it's just the way it is. I think he is a great person, just we are not great ppl for each other.
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 2543 From: intimate sky dot net Registered: Mar 2014
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posted June 01, 2016 05:34 AM
Has aaanybody eeeever experienced this positively in a romantic relationship? I had a consultation with a Vedic astrologer this year who cited this aspect as the reason he would absolutely advise against marrying the person i was with then. Somehow I'm in another Saturn conjunct ascendant relationship (I guess the karma thing...). It's the same. I feel bad about myself almost all the time. Very restrictedand inhibited and if i mention it he blows his top... IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4967 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 01, 2016 06:41 AM
Yes! Here!I hated it- i felt controlled, restricted, critized and so i called its quits My aries moon & MC hates and hates and hates seeing Saturn near my luminaries  IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1444 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted June 01, 2016 07:56 AM
I haven't had the Saturn on the ASC contact - but I do have someone's Saturn in my first (10° away from Asc). Yes, they are sort of a mentor / support system. The Saturn person does what they can to help 'better' the Asc person. Their disapproval can feel real bad, though. It's almost like it takes an incredible amount of perfection to 'make the cut'. And if the Asc person falls short, wintry disapproval is what you get. Having said that, it's smoothed over by nicer aspects (Venus-Jupiter also trine the Asc person in question) - so, there's never too much gloom-n-doom.** Speaking more generally, if the Asc person likes (and appreciates) some 'self-improvement' lessons, then it's a good thing. Otherwise, it can cross over from "I want you to be the best you" to -- "You're so annoying, just get your s**t together!". If you're sure the Saturn person has your best interests at heart, then stay and enjoy becoming a better you. Or if they just can't help make you feel 'not good enough' at all times, then bolt. ----------------------- ** Also, I'm a Virgo Venus, so I actually like the helpful criticism. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2809 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 01, 2016 08:57 AM
heh my saturn sits in my s.o's 1st house and conjunct his ascendant. Lol my saturn square his sun. My venus conjunct his ascendant and our ascendants conjunct almost exact though. His 1st house jupiter sits in my 1st house. Those sweeten the deal. Nah. We've been together for quite a while, and considering his nature, if he felt restricted/blocked/inhibited, like hell he'd stay silent lol. For us it manifests in other ways. He said that to him, I give out a very "capable" vibe, the way I am and the way I act make him think that I'm a person who knows how to handle myself and that he can count on me. It feels reassuring. For me as the saturn person, heh we have our differences and we don't always agree on things, but overall I adore him. He's not perfect, but that's alright. He's trying his best. And I admire his ideals. I've witnessed him going through turmoils, hardships and whatnot, and he always shows such resilience and kindness. I'm honored to have him standing next to me. Whatever it is that my saturn influence wants, he has it in spades. It makes me feel a little over-protective. I've never gone overboard because I know how to control these feelings. But yeah, it hurts sometimes to stand back and let him fight his own battles, when all I want to do is whisking him away and wrapping him in soft marshmallow clouds. -- Ahahaha speaking of saturn woes, this thread reminds me that when we met, for a little while our hard saturn aspects came out quite clearly. We talked on the internet and chatted through skype first. When we met at the airport, the moment I saw him I was like: ~ When I saw you standing there I about fell off my chair ~ I forgot to breathe and hence, felt a little light headed due to the lack of oxygen. And I just kept staring. Later he said that for a few moments he suddenly felt so damn self conscious like "Is she disappointed or something?" lol the poor thing. Saturn you a-hole lol. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 01, 2016 08:39 PM
Awe 12muddy, thats so sweet and gives me hope! I have this aspect with someone, 4 degrees conjunct, my Saturn on his AC. After reading the thread im worried! But its strange, hes 10 years older than me...I thought Saturn was the one who was older? Lol Anyway....I surely dont want to make him feel bad or not good enough. How do I prevent this? My Saturn trines my Sun/Merc and sextiles his Sun/Merc and NN we dont have any hard aspects. IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 802 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted June 01, 2016 09:41 PM
I have never lived with or dated anyone who had their Saturn conjunct my asc, but my cousin's wife has her Saturn on my asc. It really isn't that bad at all. She's not oppressive, and is hardly disapproving of me. In fact, if anything, I'd say I was restricting her. She will occasionally say something like "I wish you would talk more", but honestly, everyone says that to me, lol. The conjunction is in Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2809 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 02, 2016 12:22 AM
Hey Gabby, It’s good to see you, I haven’t seen you on board for a while. Hope that you’ve been doing well. I’ve just read other posts from this thread and there are a few things that come to my mind. I agree with Happy Dragon on the 1st page of this thread that it depends on how the Saturn person expresses their Saturn energy and how the other person responses to it. How do you view Saturn? How does it manifest in your life? Do you have a good understanding of it...etc... that sort of things. Say, I’m Saturn dominated, there are Neptune and venus to smooth things out, but the feel of Saturn is there. Elysia mentioned: quote: if the Asc person falls short, wintry disapproval is what you get.
Lol ime, this is pretty much the worst way that saturn can play out. A loving relationship turns gruelling. I think most people don’t want to feel like nothing they do is ever enough. When I was much younger, I pushed for results. If one “falls short”, then it’s a failure, no? Later, my perspective changed, and I came to think that there is beauty in the struggle and the determination to keep moving forwards. I look for effort and devotion instead, and as a result, tap into the positive side of Saturn. Instead of a cold shoulder, Saturn can be a firm, reliable shoulder and a helping hand. It can be easy to overlook the good things that the Asc person does. I’m very much the type that goes “Well it’s your duty, no? You don’t get cookies for fulfilling your duty.” Lol but cookies raise morale, man. So give lots of cookies. It’s not a reward. It’s a token of appreciation. Makes the person feel that it's not like you don't give a fk. Makes the person feel like you have many fks to spare. Ya know. J.k. It’s helpful for the Saturn person to know that encouragement, acknowledgement and appreciation go a long way. Still, if my partner happened to be someone who didn’t appreciate this energy, what my s.o sees as positive could easily be seen as negative by them. The earlier part of my s.o’s life has the markers of a Saturn though, so to put it simply, he knows how to deal with it.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 02, 2016 11:17 AM
Thank you 12muddy....you reminded me of something i lose sight of too often, Saturn is about moving forward. It doesn't set a time frame, like it has to be done today...its just about progress. Im so hard on myself and others, i need to keep this that you've said in my head n heart everyday, it will help me so much to feel happier and more content with everything!! Thank you! IP: Logged |