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Topic: Declinations in synastry
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I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 9778
From: Death Star
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 17, 2015 11:52 AM
  
Guess which one is a celeb crush and which one is a celeb squish  1.
his Venus 24°10'2" N
my Uranus 23°22'9" S
his Sun 23°14'37" N
his Vertex 22°57'12" N
my Sun 22°13'40" S
my Mars 22°3'24" N
his Neptune 21°55'3" S
my Neptune 21°52'38" S
his Mars 21°26'53" N
his Mercury 21°25'23" N
my MC 21°18'16" N
my Saturn 20°59'24" S
my Mercury 20°58'51" S
my Venus 20°31'57" S
my NN 20°25'6" S
his ASC 19°41'42" S 2.
my Sun 22°13'40" S
his Neptune 22°0'26" S
my Neptune 21°52'38" S
my MC 21°18'16" N
my Venus 20°31'57" S
my NN 20°25'6" S
his Uranus 19°54'4" S
my Jupiter 18°6'31" N
his NN 17°37'38" N
my Vertex 14°49'30" S
his Sun 14°37'6" S
his Moon 3°22'24" N
my Pluto 3°13'36" S
his Jupiter 2°35'54" S ------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
ail221
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From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 17, 2015 12:32 PM
Declinations Declinations....Mine Sun 21'4 n
His Saturn 21'28 S
Mine Venus 22'34 n
Mine Jupiter 21'41 n
Mine Saturn 21'36 s
Mine Neptune 21'57 s
His Neptune 22'20 S
His Uranus 23'25 S
Mine Uranus 23'35 s
Mine Psyche 17'22 N
His Mercury 17'05 S
His Eros 18'09 S
Mine NN 18'26 s
Mine IC 18'50 n
Mine Mercury 18'49 n
Mine Asc 19'47 n
His Karma 19'48
His Pluto 0'30 N
His NN 0'57 N
His Moon 1'38 N
Mine Pluto 1'23 S
His Mars 1'31 N
Mine Juno 1'49 S
Mine Karma 2'03
A Valentine 11'58 S
His Juno 11'11 S
Mine Vertex 10'34 S
His Venus 8'43 S included because there is venus vertex conjunction.
His Jupiter 8'40 N I think between the Saturn and pluto declinations this may be too much.
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Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21731
From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted February 17, 2015 02:40 PM
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Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21731
From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted February 17, 2015 02:42 PM
@Cappy: #1?@ail: Looks good!  IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted February 25, 2015 10:01 AM
I have been comparing declinations with someone, and all of his planets form a parallel or contra-parallel with at least one of my planets. The only one of my planets that doesn't form an aspect in declination is my Moon, unless I count Vesta and smaller asteroids. I'm just focusing on the planets for now. For example... His Sun squares my Sun, and they are also contra-parallel. His Sun also conjuncts my descendant and North Node, and is parallel to both. My Venus is conjunct and parallel to his Jupiter. What is strange is that in Draconic synastry the same aspect shows up, only it's my Jupiter conjunct his Venus, also parallel. I'm not sure if declinations count in Draconic since it doesn't represent an actual planetary placement in space. Both conjunctions are less than a 30 minute orb. These were just a couple of examples where the same planets had aspects in both longitude and declination. I was looking at other synastries with important people in my life, and I have yet to see so many declination aspects. We have several 0 degree aspects and double whammies in synastry too. Has anyone else experienced this many aspects in declination with someone, and is it unusual to have so many? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 25, 2015 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Has anyone else experienced this many aspects in declination with someone, and is it unusual to have so many?
Yes. I wouldn't say it's unusual as much as it's significant. In our more influential soul connexions, I've found many. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted February 25, 2015 04:49 PM
^There is definitely a strange soul connection here, and with that exact Sun/North Node conjunction, I feel that it's significant. I've read that there is often fear when someone's planets have an exact conjunction to the NN, and that's exactly how I'm feeling now. At the same time I'm magnetically drawn to him. I guess the feeling is multiplied with the parallels and contra-parallels involving his Sun and my Sun, NN, and DC.
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Peluches
Knowflake Posts: 1468
From: the sky
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted February 25, 2015 06:03 PM
I love declinations ! Great thread Faith  IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
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posted February 25, 2015 08:15 PM
Faith,RE: TISIPHONE, as I've studied her a LOT in the last few years, it's activity is curiously, well, active. Both being fiction writers, our projects independently involve Tisiphonic or vigilante killers; his specifically a modern embodiment of the Erinye herself, mine a 'killer of killers' more akin to an instrument of fate, than a lone operator. It was how she's involved, really, rather than her general presence. Still, to have an exact parallel of an OOB point, which moves at a significant clip, 13 years difference, was almost astounding to me. For us, she echoes in our synastry of a darker lifeline; a confusing time, marked by an endless cycle of violence, betrayal, and a set of governing principles resulting in tragedy. Best understood astrologically as: His nTISIPHONE/HADES conjunct my nCHIRON/PREY square the NODES My nTISIPHONE/LACHESIS conjunct his nSUN square nSATURN conjunct his drTISIPHONE conjunct sNNODE My drTISIPHONE conjunct his drCHIRON conjunct my nSNODE and his drATROPOS opposite his nKARMA/VENUS conjunct my NNODE WHAT it all translates into is a much longer discussion / explanation. But that's the gist of the pattern in a nutshell; you can see how prominent TISIPHONE is; and that's just taking the Draco/Tropical configurations into consideration. It repeats, morphs, and resonates in the Sidereal as well as Huber degrees (and antiscia). IP: Logged |
Peluches
Knowflake Posts: 1468
From: the sky
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted February 26, 2015 08:27 PM
MeSUN // 9°25'17" S
MOON // 19°18'11" S
MERCURY // 19°24'16" S
VENUS // 7°19'34" N
MARS // 25°11'52" S
JUPITER // 10°16' 0" N
SATURN // 13°53'59" N
URANUS // 17°36'39" S
NEPTUNE // 19°33'13" S
PLUTO // 10°51'28" S
NORTH NODE // 17°47'27" N
SOUTH NODE // 17°47'27" S
CHIRON // 16°52'15" S
VERTEX // 10°42'16" S
VALENTINE // 5°31'31" N
KARMA // 33°43'36" N
Him
SUN // 13°21'15" S
MOON // 19° 2'15" N
MERCURY // 22° 1'37" S
VENUS // 2°18' 0" N
MARS // 6°22' 3" S
JUPITER // 23°26'50" S
SATURN // 21°24'20" N
URANUS // 7°10'23" S
NEPTUNE // 19°22'53" S
PLUTO // 13°21'29" N
NORTH NODE // 21°56'51" S
SOUTH NODE // 21°56'51" N
CHIRON // 7°11'47" N
VERTEX // 17°22' 4" S
VALENTINE // 24° 3'56" N
KARMA // 26°35'26" S
His MARS and URANUS are contra-parallel my VENUS and his CHIRON, with my SUN not far. His MOON is contra-parallel my MOON, my NEPTUNE, my MERCURY, his NEPTUNE, and, widely, his NN, SATURN, and MERCURY. We have a VALENTINE contra-parallel MARS double whammy with his KARMA not very far from his VALENTINE and my MARS. Aaaand his VERTEX is parallel my SN.
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Peluches
Knowflake Posts: 1468
From: the sky
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted February 26, 2015 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Tisiphone 20.35 S
Neptune 20.50 S
Saturn 20.17 N
Mercury 19.56 S
Moon, Mercury and Neptune at 19 S. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 27, 2015 03:02 AM
I'm still heavily investigating TISIPHONE. It seemed odd to me that SO many people would have a murder karma they're sorting out. Perhaps, unless she's involved with particular degrees, or in certain configurations, with violent Midpoints, she is more the 'voice of vengeance' and can be so applied?I'm not sure. Anyone want to study TISIPHONE in synastry? IP: Logged |
Peluches
Knowflake Posts: 1468
From: the sky
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted February 27, 2015 03:55 AM
Auby,I finally decided to try out Tisiphone in our synastry, and the results were astounding. Every single placement of Tisiphone hit something significant. - my nTISIPHONE conjunct his nISIS/BODA and my nNN
- his nTISIPHONE conjunct my nVERTEX and his nMC, all exact
- our cTISIPHONE opposite his nVERTEX and square a karmic point
- our davTISIPHONE conjunct my nSATURN - my drTISIPHONE (cj my NN) squares his skipped steps MARS/URANUS and CHIRON in draconic
- his drTISIPHONE/MC conjunct my drASC/VALENTINE and nSATURN
- our c drTISIPHONE conjunct my nACACIA/DEJANIRA and square his nNODES
- our dav drTISIPHONE conjunct his nCHIRON exact and widely square his nNODES ! - my sTISIPHONE conjunct his nVALENTINE
- his sTISIPHONE conjunct my nSN/PSYCHE
- our c sTISIPHONE opposite my nSUN and significant karmic point
- our dav sTISIPHONE conjunct my nACACIA/DEJANIRA and square his nNODES IP: Logged |
Peluches
Knowflake Posts: 1468
From: the sky
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted February 27, 2015 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Perhaps, unless she's involved with particular degrees, or in certain configurations, with violent Midpoints, she is more the 'voice of vengeance' and can be so applied?
Yes, I think that's the best way to handle her for now. The 'voice of vengeance' -- not purely for the sake of evil and taking revenge per se, but something along the lines of 'getting my own back in all fairness'. Almost like the rules of karma, actually. Hmm... come to think of it, she does replace the KARMA asteroid quite well. All the karmic debts I had slowly discovered were shown by TISIPHONE again in the charts. But, don't worry. Let her go for a bit. You'll end up finding what she means, I'm sure.  IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
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posted February 27, 2015 03:57 PM
Not a replacement for KARMA, as much as a potential signal of outstanding or unresolved, even negative, karma. Potentially. I've written many threads on TISIPHONE in the past 2 years. I think I'll begin compiling them. For my own edification, if nothing else. IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted March 13, 2016 10:26 AM
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DopGang
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posted March 13, 2016 10:47 AM
Nice!
Much easier! IP: Logged |
Sunnya
Knowflake Posts: 666
From: Sunnyland
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted March 13, 2016 12:48 PM
Great thread Faith! I am wondering about declinations with angles and points.. Are they relevant? Besides those classic ones we also have some intriguing ones, for example: My IC exact parallels his ASC and contraparallel exact his DESC (So my MC is also on the mix)  My Venus parallels his MC and contraparallel IC <1º. What about when Vertex is involved too? (I am talking about exact contraparallels here with the other Moon, Mars and so on...)
Please don't quote, cheers!
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted March 13, 2016 05:16 PM
Hmm I don't really know Sunnya, maybe Kannon will drop by and offer some insight? I just treat parallels and contraparallels like conjunctions or "connections."Not sure why I originally posted that you have to get the Ebertin midpoint chart PDF to find declinations?  I don't know where my head goes sometimes. :-/ IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
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posted March 13, 2016 05:43 PM
Right now my brain is on draconic synastry declinations... found some interesting stuff. IP: Logged |
Sunnya
Knowflake Posts: 666
From: Sunnyland
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted March 13, 2016 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hmm I don't really know Sunnya, maybe Kannon will drop by and offer some insight? I just treat parallels and contraparallels like conjunctions or "connections."Not sure why I originally posted that you have to get the Ebertin midpoint chart PDF to find declinations? I don't know where my head goes sometimes. :-/
Thank you, it seems significant but who knows lol. Let's hope Kannon stops by. I don't know why you put Ebertin w/ midpoints, but I actually went to check if there was any difference in the declinations. 
@yungang Good idea, but I am now swamped with all these aspects and declinations lol. Full on entanglement for us.
My dr Vertex exact parallel his natal Vertex? They are actually conjunct too.
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EmGem
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posted March 13, 2016 07:54 PM
Sunnya, I would think the vertex declinations are powerful for sure! We have a lot of vertex axis decs happening in our synastry and I can definitely feel the impact. Very fated relationship.
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Sunnya
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From: Sunnyland
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posted March 13, 2016 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Sunnya, I would think the vertex declinations are powerful for sure! We have a lot of vertex axis decs happening in our synastry and I can definitely feel the impact. Very fated relationship.
But hopefully Kannon will chime in on this.
Thank you EmGem . It's fascinating. It's a bit crazy our dr-dr synastry, natal-dr synastry and now declinations too involving natals and draconics. There are also exact declinations with the luminaries, angles and so on. It really feels fated. I think I now understand the expression on his face the first time he saw me. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
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posted March 13, 2016 08:12 PM
Yes that does sound like a powerful and fated connection, Vertex-Vertex exact. I noticed my friend has Pluto out of bounds in his draconic chart... 37'!!.. which makes tooootal sense and causes me to feel like based on that alone draconic declinations are totally valid. He is OUT THERE Plutonian--and there's little in his natal to account for how very very Plutonian he is--except Moon contra-parallel Pluto (which is parallel my Venus). He also has an OOB Moon in draconic parallel my natal OOB Moon. Aha. I knew it! Our draconic stuff is crazy too. We have an Eros-Psyche conjuction in draconic, conjunct composite draconic Sun and my natal Saturn... also Sun-Moon conjuction in the draconic charts and his dr Venus on my dr IC But this is wayyyy off topic. Declinations in synastry are real and often do offer the missing piece to the puzzle. Yes indeed. IP: Logged |
Orange
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From: Georgia
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posted March 14, 2016 12:32 AM
i see you guys talk about DR Vertex and I musta say that me and my guy have a conjunction of Vertex - Vertex in the Draconic ( parallel too), and the conjunction falls on our natal synastrical Sun-Venus.
This Sun-Venus is everywhere in our comparison charts, just in every chart. IP: Logged |
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