posted February 27, 2015 09:01 AM            

They are such a stunning timing tool (of course first you have to understand your natal and also have the broad overview in terms of secondary progressions, solar arcs and outer planets transits).

But if you have established the frame of these bigger background-developments, the tertiaries are just WOW, they leave me often literally stunned.

They work within 1 degree of exactness, and often I feel like I am reaching if I go beyond 1°30. lol

Example: at the time of their marriage my Mum`s tp Moon was conjunct her natal Sun.

my Dad`s tp Moon was conjunct her tp ASC exactly.

Mum`s tp Venus on my Dad`s natal ASC-Saturn.
Dad`s tp Venus on my Mom`s natal DESC.

For friends of mine at time of their marriage

she had tp Venus conjunct tp Saturn exact (ruler of her natal DESC)

tp Mars on her n ASC exact

tp Moon conjunct tp Juno

he had tp Moon and tp Sun conjunct his tp ASC (2 degrees, ASC on the exact midpoint of tp Sun and tp Moon)

tp Mars on his n ASC

his tp Juno conjunct her tp Moon exact and her tp Juno by 2 degrees

his tp Venus opposing her n Sun exact

his tp Mars and n ASC on her n DESC

her tp Mars on his n DESC

DW conjunction of her tp Venus to his n Vertex and her tp Vertex to his n Venus

just those from first glance.
I am sure they had major background arcs and progressions and transits, too, but I am always amazed at tertiaries as a timing tool (I know Blashke related them to the emotional level, and secondaries to the physical level, but it seems he wsa the only one doing it, and while there might be a bit of truth to it, they work just superbly as timing tool in physical things as well. put shortly they are simply the monthly progressions, as secondaries are yearly progressions. Hence of course the secondaries are related to the Sun, and the tertiaries to the Moon)

And when certain tertiary aspects peak, well you feel it.
I did not quite get it why I was coming across a certain kind of block when meeting a certain individual, something just felt like, well I don`t know, like something was putting distance between us or a brake, that had not been that obvious before.

I actually laughed when I checked the tertiary progressions today.

On that very day his tertiary Saturn had come to square my n Venus exactly. Of course SAturn is a slow mover, but still in this instance the orb was only 5 minutes of arc.

Interestingly some years ago when I had decided to disappear my tertiary Saturn was opposing his n Venus by only 5 minutes of arc. Interestingly it never got any closer to opposing though, as then it was stationary for some months/ even years, before moving away from that opposition.
It is almost funny, but when I "resurfaced", I did so with my tertiary Saturn being 13 minutes away from opposing his n Venus (and according to Brady 12 minutes is the orb, you can consider a transit or progression as "peaking").

Well at that time my tertiary Venus had also left the opposition to his natal Saturn (which was more shortlived), and just when it was clearly out of orb for opposing his n Saturn, but instead conjunct his n Antivertex (and also triggering his Moon-MC), we met again.

Hmm, weird stuff that.

For him that was the time his tp Venus had been conjunct his n Venus (so some sort of tertiary Venus-return), which I find also interesting, as 2 years before, when we first met his sp Sun was conjunct his n Venus exact.

That is what I meant with the tertiaries being excellent timing tools.

posted February 27, 2015 09:18 AM            

that was fast!

If doing tertiaries check for

conjunction, square, opposition (only) within one degree to

- natal angles (including Vertex)
- natal lumninaries and Venus
- natal planets

the tp Moon is the quickest mover there, so it is the most reliable timing tool usually. Definitely keep note if it crosses an angle or squares it in the natal (and I would add the tertiary angles as well).

the tertiary Moon moves about 1 degree in 2 days (that is important if you use astro.com, as they only give you the position of the Moon as it is at the FIRST day of the month in question, so you have to manually estimate the position of the moon, if the event you are looking at was letīs say 2 weeks after the month started).

Tertiary progressions work usually hand in hand with secondary progressions, and something major will only happen if they overlap and if the angles or luminaries are being triggered.

WEll I have two examples from my own life.
One very sad one, as my grandmother died.

secondary progressions
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sp Moon 10 Cancer
sp DESC 9 Cancer
n and sp Pluto 9 Libra

tertiary progressions
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tp Moon 8 Capricorn

Transits
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Tr Pluto 9 Capricorn (retro)

posted February 27, 2015 09:54 AM            

Looking today pretty amazing !

The moon is conjunct my natal sun in (7th T prog) under 1 degree.
Opposing mercury ( ex at 7 deg) Venus and Pluto and quincunx Mars. all conjunct his pluto at 10 deg. In libra ( no surprise) 1st house W/ Jen, Anteros, Juno, alma.

But moon is trine Saturn ( cap man) in Leo his ASC at 11 deg In 11th t prog house. all good aspects to other planets. Forming a grand kite w/ Neptune 11 deg and Moon at 6 Neptune in Sag on my natal Neptune on my Eros / psyche midpoint at 11.

Huge TSquare from moon and and Mercury to Ex natal ASC at 1 deg Cancer.

T prog sun at 17 virgo my natal moon at 23. Have to look at secondary.

Oops ! Dbl post

Anyway, Mars Venus conjunction ( transit) is conjunct the T prog moon.

Thought. That new moon we had was conjunct my Medea In Aquarius and today the sun will conjunct Medea. My secondary moon at 8 deg same as transit sun today. And Ter prog moon exact opp pluto in libra.
Secondary 11th house Ter 7th ( aries)! Opp pluto in secondary 5th and Ter 1st.

The Ter progressed moon just crossed the Ter DSC in aries.

posted February 27, 2015 10:36 AM            

"The moon is conjunct my natal sun in (7th T prog) under 1 degree. "

What happened?

"Opposing mercury ( ex at 7 deg) Venus and Pluto"
under one or max. 2 degrees?

" and quincunx Mars"
not significant

". all conjunct his pluto at 10 deg."
too wide.

Considering tertiaries are a timing tool you need to look for exact hits. If your Mercury-Venus-Moon is applying to 10 degrees, then the aspect to his Pluto is still in the making, but not yet there.
Anyway with tp Moon being so fast, it might actually hit the next days or week.

"But moon is trine Saturn "
No soft aspects. not that i think they are bad or something, they just don`t have trigger potential (though might relate to a certain athmosphere in the background)

"Huge TSquare from moon and and Mercury to Ex natal ASC at 1 deg Cancer."
Under one degree exact?

"T prog sun at 17 virgo my natal moon at 23. Have to look at secondary."
This aspect will hit in about 5 months I think. So keep an eye on july.

"Anyway, Mars Venus conjunction ( transit) is conjunct the T prog moon."
Yes, might hit these days.

"The Ter progressed moon just crossed the Ter DSC in aries."
Very very significant.

two pivotal days within one week last year 9th and 13th june

9th june (13th june)
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Tp Sun 7°44 Gemini (7°53 GEmini)
Tp Moon 6°52 Gemini (8°40 Gemini)
n DESC 7°03 Gemini

tp Juno 7°58 Virgo (8°00 Virgo)

while I said NO soft aspects, I did notice this:

tp Mars 7°04 Leo (7°09 Leo)

sp Sun 6°08 Aquarius (6°09 Aquarius)

posted February 27, 2015 10:41 AM            

G is Cap and this is his ASC in Leo.
I know he is a Cap Leo. I just don't know exactly where.

". all conjunct his pluto at 10 deg."
too wide.

The transit nodes are at 11 deg !

The Ter. Sun 17 virgo is conjunct my natal 6th house cusp at 16.22 and exact opp secondary prog mars in Pisces.

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posted February 27, 2015 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by vesta:

G is Cap and this is his ASC in Leo.
I know he is a Cap Leo. I just don't know exactly where.

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posted February 27, 2015 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well there still is no trigger-potential in a trine or sextile. (unless maybe as part of a very exact Grand trine).

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It is a grand kite ! Set off by transit Nodes.

posted February 27, 2015 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by vesta:

The transit nodes are at 11 deg !

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Would be important for him then. For you with the planets on 7 degrees, you will have to wait for a while until this really hits. You might feel it as some sort of building-phase already, but the real thing will be during the Nodes at 7 degrees I suppose (if your planets are at 7 degrees). Which will be the case in june.

So ANOTHER pointer at june this year (and possibly may and july).

You are apparently in an applying phase to something that might happen in late spring/ summer.

posted February 27, 2015 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Would be important for him then. For you with the planets on 7 degrees, you will have to wait for a while until this really hits. You might feel it as some sort of building-phase already, but the real thing will be during the Nodes at 7 degrees I suppose (if your planets are at 7 degrees). Which will be the case in june.

So ANOTHER pointer at june this year (and possibly may and july).

You are apparently in an applying phase to something that might happen in late spring/ summer.

With the going over your DESC already, either your birthtime is not perfectly correct or it was the starting signal for this development leading you into the june-crescendo.

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posted February 27, 2015 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by vesta:

Edited above found Ter sun exact opp secondary Mars

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posted February 27, 2015 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by vesta:
Jupiter is ruler of my secondary DSC and secondary Jupiter is at 11 aries !

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as I said it all seems to fall into place if you combine secondary, tertiary, natal and transits!

posted February 27, 2015 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by vesta:
Jupiter is ruler of my secondary DSC and secondary Jupiter is at 11 aries !

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posted February 27, 2015 10:59 AM            

However when these shared degrees definitely become pivotal is if they are focused through a strong transit on 16, 17 or 18 degrees.

posted February 27, 2015 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
the opposition might be significant. though it compares tp with sp. possibly valid, but am not sure about that yet, this needs more research.

However when these shared degrees definitely become pivotal is if they are focused through a strong transit on 16, 17 or 18 degrees.

In this case probably Tr Chiron.

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Well, I thought the transit sun exact conjunct my Ter. Moon would have been significant ? 8 deg

It will sextile my Venus in Taurus ASC ruler 8 deg and make a YOD to Pluto in Libra 8 deg

posted February 27, 2015 11:14 AM            

your tp Moon is at 7 Aries, Tr Sun at 7 Pisces.
however your tp Moon is or actually was conjunct your n Sun, and yes I do htink that would have been significant.

Did something happen in the last days?

In fact I think it would have been a very significant happening seeing that you have

n Sun 5 Aries
tp DESC 5 Aries
tp Moon 5 Aries

and the transiting Venus-Mars on 4-5 Aries.

posted February 27, 2015 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW as far as I see it the Tr Sun is not conjunct your tp Moon.

your tp Moon is at 7 Aries, Tr Sun at 7 Pisces.
however your tp Moon is or actually was conjunct your n Sun, and yes I do htink that would have been significant.

Did something happen in the last days?

In fact I think it would have been a very significant happening seeing that you have

n Sun 5 Aries
tp DESC 5 Aries
tp Moon 5 Aries

and the transiting Venus-Mars on 4-5 Aries.

So what did occur? Might be externally or internally? Did you fall in love?

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BTW as far as I see it the Tr Sun is not conjunct your tp Moon.

posted February 27, 2015 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I guess.

Then again you`ve had several tarot readings before,right?
How did they play out?

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They have been exceedingly positive for something happening soon.

As far as the 11 degree hitting his pluto that is because my meeting with my lawyer for divorce is March 9th.