posted January 11, 2017 11:13 AM            

Where shall we talk, here or there?

posted January 11, 2017 02:22 PM              

natally:

my Atropos on 19 Aquarius is conjunct my Moon on 17 Aquarius, and sextile my Chiron on 20 Aries. Atropos-Moon are in 2nd house.

I am not entirely sure what that means for my life to be honest.

However I do think I detected this pattern that my emotions do not really develop gradually and smoothly, but now and then there seems to be this stopping-point, or not stopping point, but this mark or signpost and when I go beyond it, it is not a gradual development but more like a quantum leap, dividing my emotional life in NOW and BEFORE, and now and before can be VERY different.

Of course my Venus-Pluto is also prone to that.

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so I mentioned my Atropos Return in late april 2015, which were really within hours of a change in communication and actually also starting an emotional evolvement.

Interestingly my Atropos-REturn features my own name asteroid jsut 7 degrees off its natal position - which means I was having a nameasteroid return soon after that (which might be comparable to a Solar Return in terms of identity/ personality, just lasting for more years).

My name asteroid Return happened about 2 weeks after my Atropos return and one week about my progressed fullmoon becoming exact.

So it seems like there are always some simultaneous things going on. lol

For whatever`s worth, that is my current Atropos-Return-chart.

Just thought it was interesting that it has this Yod there, and also Moon opposing Atropos, while natally they are conjunct.

posted January 11, 2017 02:52 PM              

the decison to have a first chat with someone, that really changed my life:

Tr Atropos on 10 Aries conjunct Tr IC on 8 Aries, opposing natal Pluto on 9 LIbra

(I ran away after that though).

° then a few years later, actually he jolted me by coming up to me during a show and teasing me and just completely shocked me. lol

Tr Atropos conjunct Tr Pluto on my Venus exact

° then a few months later there was an instance when I got paranoid and once again made the decision to run away instead of facing up to the challenges

Tr Atropos on 20 Aquarius conjunct natal Atropos (!)
with Tr Pallas on 16 Aqua conjunct natal MOon exact

That Tr Atropos was also square Tr Juno on 22 Scorpio

Surly did not help having a Tr Sun-Pluto-conjunction on my Venus and squaring my Pluto at that time - almost funny how presently there is aslo a Sun-Pluto-conjunction again.

(I`ve hopefully learned to face up to my challenges though, at least to a degree, noone is infallible, not even the young pope sorry just was watching that yesterday)

° then there was a pretty heartbreaking timeframe - two heartbreaks during it.

One was also a wake up call, but I remember that irrational or not, the hurt was so intense, I thought I was actually going to die from that, if I did not switch off my feelings.

Tr Atropos on 12 Cancer opposing Tr Pluto on 10 Cap square Tr Uranus on 12 ARies, widely opposing my natal Pluto on 9 Libra
- it certainly did not help that my pr Moon was at 10 Cancer I think.

Tr Juno was also conjunct my natal Moon-Atropos.

the other heartbreak was the passing of my grandmother, I was literally completely breaking down at her funeral (which was almost weird, as it was not unexpected she would die), and thought I would never be able to stop crying again. I really got into a hysterical fit, and actually the only one who could get me out of there was my little brother, who was just holding me for several minutes, not even saying a word, but you just gotta love those Pisces Suns and ASCs - they have got the healing touch.
Interestingly I ONLY cried for her on that day, it was like I had just spared it all for this one day, after that I was sad of course, but just had accepted this particular end.

The day she died Tr Sun was conjunct Tr Atropos on 21-22 Cancer (yes i realized where the fullmoon tonight falls :eek

it was also right on my vertex and squaring my Chiron.

(BTW she was a Cancer, though no conjunction there)

tr Venus was once again on 20 Leo opposing my natal Atropos (really what IS that????)

Tr Juno had been still conj. my Moon but not my Atropos, or just widely at 3 degrees.

Anyway coming back to less deadly moments

Somewhen further down the line, after a few years, there was an incident, in which a comment caused me/ forced me to reconsider and reevaluate of what I had thought was going on, and the new insight and realization was a real Tarot Tower moment, it blew my mind and shook the very foundation of my thought patterns, and made me realize that even refusing to believe someone could find me attractive was some sort of safety-net, and how things simply aren`t black or white and emotions can sometimes be pretty messy and not easily categorized, and other people may actually have feelings too! Surprise surprise - Oh and of course I walked away once again - I do that a lot actually, I see

Tr Atropos exact conjunct Tr Pallas on 7 Virgo
square my n ASC exact
square my Mars by 2 degrees
trine my Venus by 1 degree
opposite my Pholus exact, which was conj. Tr Neptune exact that time

Like usually there was more going on.

oh and Tr Venus on 18 Taurus square my natal Atropos (I remember that I was wondering last year why the 17-19 degrees of fixed signs come up so frequently, sure my Moon is on 17 but why the 18-19 area, might ATropos have her hand in this?)

Tr Saturn was squaring my Moon exactly and my Atropos by 2 degrees.

It`s interesting but this blurting out of what could be considered a compliment towards me, really hurt me and made me feel raw inside, maybe for the realization just how stupid and blind I must have been.

But I`ve been sticking to pretend I am being blind a while longer - I can be really stubborn when it comes to this. Must be the fixed Moon. and fixed name asteroid and even fixed Atropos.

posted January 11, 2017 03:29 PM              

It was really a demarcation line between BEFORE and NOW.

Tr Atropos was sextile Tr Uranus exact on my IC, also opposed my Mars by 2 degrees

But that was it actually, not really much for such an important decision.

#I do think however i have AMBROSIA on 3 Gemini as well and Tr Atropos might have cut that, well not from real happiness but the artifical surrogate, in terms of food I guess.
Of course tr Atropos was in 6th house that day, and 4 degrees off DESC.

Oh yes and Tr Atropos was also squaring Tr Chiron,w hich was already conjunct my n Pholus,

Then lets forward a bit there came this meeting or gathering or however we want to call it, in which P and I met in a more (semi)private frame, which I had not wanted to attend to, as i was scared, but he pretty much commanded me there and I think for the first time in my life I took a risk and leapt into unknown waters.
It was pretty great actually, had the time of my life, though unused being that much on display and teased all the time and singled out and having my food dissected.
I also however met some people, and in particular one became a close aquaintance (and she is actually guilty of dragging me along to a lot of things).

In short this meeting led to some sort of re-socialization of me I suppose I could call it.

Tr Atropos on 1 Pisces
(which might have been more important for HIM actually as his SN is on 1 Pisces. lol)

anyw also opposint Tr Sun-Jupiter and squaring Tr Moon-saturn widely - yes it was that kind of a Leo (Sun/Jupier) - Scorpio (Moon/Saturn) day. lol

However once again we found Tr Venus on - tada

18 Leo, opposing my natal Moon-Atropos - it is getting obvious isn`t it?

Then a few months later my new aquaintance was dragging me to that musical , well I wanted to see it, she was dragging me backstage, which had one of the most strangest chats with P happening, and the change in the air (of our interaction) was just so evident, not even I could really pretend to not see a change happening anymore.

This day had

Tr Atropos on 16 Taurus (exact on my name in my natal) conjunct Tr Mercury on 15 Taurus cojunct Tr Venus on 19 Taurus, of course squaring my natal Atropos on 19 Aquarius

And once again, see Venus on the 18-19 fixed degree range?

Nothing died that night though, except perhaps our silence and my desperates attempts to pretend I donīt exist or whatever it was?

This was just a few months ago, right? Wow, okay.

Well okay a bit of drama ensued after that, but somehow resulting in a more ongoing interaction/ communication.

Then there was the gathering in august, which was even increased in weirdness and crazy symmetry.

This time however Tr Venus was NOT on the suspected degrees, instead Tr Sun was on 20 Leo opposing my n Atropos. lol

and that one moment that esp. stuck in my mind Tr IC on 17 Taurus.

Tr Atropos on 23 Gemini opposing Tr Pholus on 24 Sag on my Sun-Mercury
square Tr Chiron on 24 Pisces (we will see a repetition of this in a few months)
square Tr Jupiter on 24 Virgo

Did I say it was a relaxed meeting? Nah, didn`t.

And well then that surprising meeting or actually we spent the whole day together, as I was attending his workshop, which I did NOT want to, intend to, but my aquaintance asked me if we shall risk it, and despite being scared ******** , I risked it.
And well what can I say, it was one of the greatest days I have ever experiences for more than one reasons, his actions surprised me once again, even though it was just a fleeting moment in time.
But how was it expressed in the song he posted today "but being round her made my blind eyes see"

Whomever this was aimed at actually.

Maybe he finally understood that sometimes, just sometimes, butterflies DO cry.

Curiously it seemed to have broken a pattern, no Venus on 19 fixed. lol
Okay Venus was on 11 Aquarius, but that is far enough away, right?

Tr MC that moment was on appr. 22 Aqua, so still conj. my Atropos - damn it!
square Tr BML on 23 scorpio on his own Uranus - yeah we were both surprised, I guess.

Tr Atropos was on 3 Cancer, retro. opposing Tr valentine on 3 Cap and Tr Reiki on 5 Cap.
Which was conjunct my natal Venus on 6 Cap.

But there was also

Tr Pholus on Tr DESC on 27 Sag exact
on his natal Sun-Moon-MC exact
on my natal Sun-Mercury
on my natal Reiki exact

And Tr MOon on 15 Leo opposing my Moon

plus Tr Jupiter was exactly trine my n Atropos. Usually I do not check for trines, but this one was partile.

It actually no matter what bump or turning point I look up, Atropos is there. It is cutting off the past, ushering into a new stage, a change/ transition (well not so much transition but just dropping you on the other side without considering your preconceptions, doubts or reasonable considerations).

Probably it would feature prominently in divorce, yes, but maybe also in marriage, esp, if this is a significant life(style)change.

but it even comes up in the little things as I have just seen. lol

posted January 11, 2017 08:41 PM            

I spent about an hour replying.

Is this ironic or what?

posted January 11, 2017 08:52 PM            

yungang posted this on Lachesis (I still have the tab open):

posted January 12, 2017 09:57 AM            

Sorry you lost your writing

Thanks for saving the link though

posted January 12, 2017 10:02 AM              

quote:

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Originally posted by Faith:

Atropos ends our discussion of Atropos!

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posted January 12, 2017 10:36 AM            

I don't trust this thread anymore, it stole several posts.

But maybe I'll compose something outside of LL and save it so I can just re-post again and again.

Well I have

0 Aries Vesta-Klotho
1 Atropos-Ceres
0 Leo Saturn

posted January 12, 2017 11:14 AM              

quote:

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Originally posted by Faith:
Redemption Song ---> O, pirates yes they rob I...

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Haha, I like the song.

Also it recommended to me "No woman, no cry", which reminded me of the first fanmeeting in 2015, when P was having his one year old son on his knees and playing a shortened German version (only refrain) of "No woman, no cry" telling his little son to listen closely and take the lesson to heart, as he would have to learn it anyway one day. LOL I thought it was funny back then, singing it to a toddler,

posted January 12, 2017 01:22 PM            

*knock on wood*

@Ceri,

Thank you for all the stories. I see how they highlight that before and after phenomenon you were talking about. So, your moon feels something deeply and it comes with a pronounced shift, a moving to a new place, compliments of Atropos?

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It was really a demarcation line between BEFORE and NOW.

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Atropos seems really deep. I mean Plutonian. Destroying the old and making way for the new. Maybe there is a kind of revitalizing energy to it, despite the unpleasantness and often, literal death, as I was saying on this thread:

Atropos: The End

But it's not always the end. Obviously not. We've all had Atropos transits that we barely even noticed.

Still I'm going to repeat the uncanny ending I reported on that thread:

The night I lost my ex:
4 Pisces tr Atropos
4 Pisces tr Sun

19 Virgo tr Moira
19 Virgo, my natal Juno
19 or 20 Virgo, his natal sun (no birth time)

15 Cancer pr comp Atropos
15 Cap, my natal sun

There is more to it when I get into the draconic charts.

Now.....

I love that you posted your Atropos Return chart. I posted mine last night but I don't feel like rummaging through my imgur account looking for it. There are some oddities there, causing me to wonder if the Atropos Return holds clues for when we will be faced with certain types of endings. I need to investigate that more.

While checking out the placements of these Fates in my romantic history, I encountered the fact that your best friend's Atropos opposes your Atropos. (Note to readers, Ceri's best friend was born two days before my ex.) So I wonder if Atropos-Atropos oppositions can sort of cancel each other out?

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17-18 Leo, my ex's Atropos-Klotho, on my far sun-moon midpoint
17 Leo, my Lachesis

I was a little bit overwhelmed to see that his sun is more or less conjunct his own Lachesis, after reading yung's article. (I don't have his birth time so I don't know the orb.) But it would totally make sense if he has sun conjunct Lachesis! Because, I mean....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYKMZUNHTAI

For the sake of order, I just want to talk about these four key men in my life:
My husband, The Ex, the Ex Who Hurt My Feelings, and my college boyfriend

1) My husband
- His sun opposes my Moira exactly
- His Atropos conjunct his ASC, tightly conjunct my dad's Atropos
- 0 Taurus Lachesis, on the midpoint of my 0 Aries Klotho and 1 Gemini Atropos

2) The Ex
- I mentioned his Atropos-Klotho above, on my Lachesis
- His Lachesis conjunct his sun (my Juno)
- His Moira @ 14 Aries conjunct my Jupiter (and draconic Venus)

3) The Ex Who Hurt My Feelings
- His Klotho and Atropos are both conjunct mine, even though he's about 5 months older than me. Both asteroids went through an Rx cycle, that explains it. But the fact that his are conjunct mine seems very FATEFUL and everything about that seemed like Fate.
- His Lachesis @ 17 Cancer opposes my sun, trines my moon (figures!)
- His Moira @ 15 Sag opposes my Mars and squares his Virgo Venus...(figures!)

4) My college boyfriend
- His Lachesis @ 1 Gemini conjunct my 1 Gemini Atropos-Ceres (also on his name asteroid in my chart)
- His Moira-Mars @ 14 Virgo trine my sun, grand-crossing my moon, Mars, Neptune
- His Klotho @ 17 Sag t-squaring my Mars and moon
- His Atropos @ 9 Cap, doing nothing. Is this why he could never cut me off? He didn't have Atropos scissors?

@thingsgoneby

I think there is definitely something to these asteroids.

posted January 12, 2017 01:44 PM            

I'm amazed at the similarities we found between our synastries

posted January 12, 2017 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Haha, I like the song.

Also it recommended to me "No woman, no cry", which reminded me of the first fanmeeting in 2015, when P was having his one year old son on his knees and playing a shortened German version (only refrain) of "No woman, no cry" telling his little son to listen closely and take the lesson to heart, as he would have to learn it anyway one day. LOL I thought it was funny back then, singing it to a toddler,

Though in retrospect, I wonder, if I might have missed a subtle cue right there.

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Oh that is such a cute story...he's so funny .

I'm sorry I didn't reply more in-depth to your post, I did say more last night. Here I was just trying to get some of the fundamentals down. Take it to the next level?

I wonder where that is.

Maybe....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BeKhlUzPUc

I think I'm in an Atropos recovery phase...when Atropos transited on the SUN in my Atropos-Return chart, over the holidays, I did feel unusually cut off from people. Even the Christmas party we always go to was cancelled. And some other things.

posted January 12, 2017 02:15 PM            

Click eph1

Write the asteroid names separated by commas in the field where it says "Comma-Delimited List of Names." Then you can just easily change the date around to check several people in a small amount of time.

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Strangely enough my best friend's set of Atropos, Lachesis, Klotho, Moira does not aspect my chart very strongly. I say it's strange because her draconic chart overlaps my tropical chart to a remarkable extent.

posted January 12, 2017 02:52 PM              

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMqKOt7R_K8

BTW do you remember last year when he was posting those peculiar smileys to me?
Tr Atropos was conjunct his n ASC exact. lol

"Maybe.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BeKhlUzPUc
Maybe.... though maybe it`s also like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFbuID1QG0Y

"hen Atropos transited on the SUN in my Atropos-Return chart, over the holidays, I did feel unusually cut off from people. Even the Christmas party we always go to was cancelled. And some other things."
Yes, that is interesting. Sun in the Atropos chart you say? Gotta look it up.

Well not only yesterday Atropos was on my Diurnal DESC, but I just realized that today Tr Atropos is literally just one minute away from opposing the composite Sun.

Let me check, when we had the conj. or opp. before and what was then.

Hmm august 2011 Tr Atropos conj. c-Sun.
Actually I had just come home from London, and made a short trip to see him on an open air (once again as Jesus - we seem to have crossed paths related to this role rather frequently. lol).

it felt just soooo weird. (from London to this small village, I mean. lol)

By then Tr Atropos had moved to P`s and my composite Sun.
Seeing him was weird, too. I`ve really tried to detach, keep back, sort of isolate myself, cut myself off from the experience in a way.

Actually I left the first show before it ended, but that was cause in the mid of the 1st act a huge rainstorm hit and they interrupted the show for about an hour? or 45 minutes? Well getting wet never was a problem for me, but when the lightenings started and the thunder was there (and it is a little mountain village in the Teutoburger forest), I wouldnīt stay anylonger, and it was not that bad of a decision, as when I went downhill, the water already was flowing the mountain up (due to the storm I gues)!

I did see a second performance the day after though, in glaring sunshine. LOL
And feeling almost uncomfortably on display. I really tried to cut myself off, but obviously he did not experience the same urge. The more I cut myself off and tried to keep an emotional distance the more he seemed to try to hook me in. Which he did not succeed btw. I can be stubborn as heck.

Still I wonder if maybe that was the reason for the month after that when I was coincidentally attending a concert of his, that he was coming down to me in the audience and teasing me, maybe he did recognize me then and just felt challenged by my evasiveness.

Well interestingly enough when he got into his relationship, Tr Atropos was opposing our composite Sun the last time. And you can bet there was no contact then.
Actually I had been having the offer to visit a concert of his one or two months before he started dating that woman, but for some reason I felt scared or not up to it or whatever, and well I guess once again it was me, cutting myself off (we had had a weird encounter a few weeks before that, in which it was pretty evident - at least now I can see that. lol - that he tried to get into closer contact with me, but I guess I Was being a bit wet-blanket-like.

It was a moment that *could* have changed our interaction/ connection even back then -but once again I was afraid, I guess. A coward.

Well in january 2 years ago Tr Atropos was conjunct composite Sun once again, and actually that was a few days after a little chat we had, nothing too spectacular, though that occasion had been weirdly disbalanced, for all participants of our little Greek drama I suppose.
It was actually not that bad, but I chose to take this as a bad omen or a final meeting or cut or whatever, and you guessed it decided to distance myself again. lol
Though actually not for very long. For some curious reason a few months later we were colliding on facebook and then he was announcing this meeting-thing and then it seemed like everything just was happening on its own, without my consent really. lol (maybe by now the universe had figured out that I would never actually consent to anything. Not at that time. But at least I stopped running away, everytime we had a more personal encounter that I had no clue how to deal with. Well except for the timeout I took in november-december 2015 of course. But THIS time out was definitely justified! and actually I had intended on making it permanent, which somehow did not come topass apparently)

Well in august 2016 Tr Atropos was opposing our c-Sun - and that was when he scheduled the "Get-together", actually I think we`ve met about 3 times that august, so not quite a cutting off contact, actualy pretty much the oposite, though it was an emotionally cutting and shocking experience from me, ust another piece of awareness hitting me like a brick. lol

Well and so now, the Tr Atropos was once again opposing our composite Sun, which was just about 2-3 days after it was conjunct his own natal IC and opposing his Sun-Moon. and squaring his Saturn-DESC, I really wonder how THAT feels like.
Well, he admitted himself how happy he was christmas was finally over, as obviously it was only stress for him.

Of course he will have another hit at the end of march.

As for my Atropos Return (whose Sun curiously is conjunct our composite Lachesis exact. lol)

Tr atropos was transiting that sun at the end of april last year, which actually was a month full of musical concerts with different people. I actually saw someone again who had affected me very much when I was younger, but whom I had not seen for about 6 years at that time. In a way this incident was a cutting off of the absence, I guess. lol
(btw this individual`s Atropos is on 16 Leo exact on his own NN, and you do see where Moon is in my ATropos Return? I guess his return was .... inevitable. lol )

Also saw P a few weeks after that in which we had a pretty longish chat, which was.... very interesting and leading to a bit of turmoil, but all in all eyeopening. At least a bit. My eyes open slitwise I think, and so do his.

posted January 12, 2017 03:37 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Maybe.... though maybe it`s also like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFbuID1QG0Y

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I'm having a crappy day....this hits the spot.

I'm worried about my friend whose birthday is today. Haven't heard from her and this is the first birthday I haven't heard from her. I'm worried because in a few hours I will see my Pisces moon brother for the first time in over five years, and this is probably going to overwhelm me. His life....

Really it feels more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE

Pray for me Everything sucks

Well it's not so bad.

5% = percentage of good feelings I had, pre-chocolate
40% = good feelings, post-chocolate
45% = good feelings after talking to you and listening to music

posted January 12, 2017 03:53 PM              

I actually like the song "Bad Moon Rising", well the melody.

Anyway I am sending you good vibrations for both, hearing from your friend and seeing your brother again. I hope it will be a healing and heart-expanding experience for the both of you.

posted January 13, 2017 09:08 AM            

We're all on it, aren't we?

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Anyway I am sending you good vibrations for both, hearing from your friend and seeing your brother again. I hope it will be a healing and heart-expanding experience for the both of you.

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Thank you so much, it worked!

All is well with my friend, all is well with my brother. I was just a worry wart yesterday.

"BTW do you remember last year when he was posting those peculiar smileys to me?
Tr Atropos was conjunct his n ASC exact. lol"

Isn't that strange? It almost seems like Atropos is a "shifting" thing, moving energies or situations from one place to another.

"Hmm august 2011 Tr Atropos conj. c-Sun.
Actually I had just come home from London, and made a short trip to see him on an open air (once again as Jesus - we seem to have crossed paths related to this role rather frequently. lol)."

LOL...well did Jesus die in this production? That's an Atropos thing.

"Well interestingly enough when he got into his relationship, Tr Atropos was opposing our composite Sun the last time. And you can bet there was no contact then."

Wow :-/

"Well in january 2 years ago Tr Atropos was conjunct composite Sun once again, and actually that was a few days after a little chat we had, nothing too spectacular, though that occasion had been weirdly disbalanced, for all participants of our little Greek drama I suppose. "

Laughing out loud about the Greek drama. I don't know why...except my mind put up a picture you and P in togas with olive leaf crowns.

"Well in august 2016 Tr Atropos was opposing our c-Sun - and that was when he scheduled the "Get-together", actually I think we`ve met about 3 times that august, so not quite a cutting off contact, actualy pretty much the oposite, though it was an emotionally cutting and shocking experience from me, ust another piece of awareness hitting me like a brick. lol"

Again, makes me wonder what the "alternate" meaning of Atropos is. It's not always endings. But maybe it's like a canal with a lock system, cutting off one phase (closing the lock) and bringing you clearly into another?

But I'm looking at my composite with my husband. Atropos was transiting through Leo when we got engaged and married, not really hitting anything specifically on those dates, but maybe just making its presence known through my first house and his Leo stellium. Nothing newsworthy. But then our oldest son's Atropos is conjunct our NNs, on our composite NN.

18.26 Scorpio, his Atropos
18.02 Scorpio, my pr NN when he was born

"As for my Atropos Return (whose Sun curiously is conjunct our composite Lachesis exact. lol)"

It's just amazing to me how often I'm seeing these two together!

"(btw this individual`s Atropos is on 16 Leo exact on his own NN, and you do see where Moon is in my ATropos Return? I guess his return was .... inevitable. lol )"

That is pretty wild!

This made me wonder about my brother...made me wonder about the timing of seeing him for the first time in so long. So I just pulled up his chart. He has Atropos-Klotho @ 16 Pisces, conjunct my moon and transiting Mars. His Moira widely conjunct mine.

I've never looked at our composite chart before...Atropos @ 23 Aries conjunct Uranus, square the transiting sun, etc.

"Also saw P a few weeks after that in which we had a pretty longish chat, which was.... very interesting and leading to a bit of turmoil, but all in all eyeopening. At least a bit. My eyes open slitwise I think, and so do his.

Interesting. It really seems to be a shedding-of-skin for me, leaving something behind, even if it might be the leaving itself. lol"

I love it.

I wonder what I was even up to, during my Atropos Return? I actually often jot down notes each day on my computer....ROTFL, I'm quoting to you directly from my notes to myself, just bits and pieces and Atropos catchphrases:

edit

I'll delete that later but I felt like it reflects Atropos a bit. Yeah, shedding skin.

posted January 13, 2017 03:28 PM              

And I hope you had agreat time with your brother.

"Isn't that strange? It almost seems like Atropos is a "shifting" thing, moving energies or situations from one place to another."
It seems to me, yes. Though you have to consider the underlying situation, it is going to change.

So I was wondering.
It can mean marriage, especially if you had not thought about it before, or a relationship when this means a complete change of your life.
Or a birth of course, but it could also mean the death of a longstanding relationship (that would be a lifechange too) or even just literally death.

What do you think?

If it happens within a relationship/ marriage, I guess some part of it would have to completely change, then.

"LOL...well did Jesus die in this production? That's an Atropos thing."
Yeah, he did. Well he dies in most of the larger productions in his roles. lol
He didn`t in "Pirate Queen" that one had a happy end for once. And he did not die as D`Artagnan, but his loveinterest in the show did of course.

Always with the drama.

Funny enough I have not even seen him in THAT many musical roles, it seems that we mostly crossed paths surrounding some smaller concerts, or the memory sticks more. lol

"except my mind put up a picture you and P in togas with olive leaf crowns."
LOL

"But maybe it's like a canal with a lock system, cutting off one phase (closing the lock) and bringing you clearly into another?"
Yes, that is how it feels to me. No going back after Atropos cut.

"Nothing newsworthy."
What di she do when you first met?

" But then our oldest son's Atropos is conjunct our NNs, on our composite NN."
Wow!

" He has Atropos-Klotho @ 16 Pisces, conjunct my moon and transiting Mars. His Moira widely conjunct mine."
Wow!

"I've never looked at our composite chart before...Atropos @ 23 Aries conjunct Uranus, square the transiting sun, etc."
That is quite potent.

Well in our composite Atropos is conjunct Chiron on 29 Aries/ 00 Taurus. Not sure how I feel about that to be honest. lol

"I'll delete that later but I felt like it reflects Atropos a bit. "
Yes, absolutely, deleting, cutting off things, getting rid, clearing space, all of that seems very fitting.

posted July 07, 2018 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ironically, no. I've found ATROPOS to be [b]inevitability. Not beginnings like KLOTHO, but more oriented towards making something that's inevitable come to pass. Perhaps that's an ending, in some cases.

It SEEMED to me that ATROPOS would be endings-oriented, especially being the Fate to cut the cord, but it seems more likely that she's putting forth what LACHESIS (120) has determined.

As you'd expect, LACHESIS seems more involved in instances of endings, or even death -- but only if those specific factors are there.[/B]

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