posted April 01, 2015 12:55 PM              

Atropos is exactly conjunct our composite Asc - both at Virgo 22.43. That says it's SIGNIFICANT. If a break up is due, it is certainly taking its time coming. Perhaps we're slow at learning our karmic lessons. Very slow .

In synastry my Atropos is conjunct his Anti-vertex.

posted April 01, 2015 06:36 PM            

It SEEMED to me that ATROPOS would be endings-oriented, especially being the Fate to cut the cord, but it seems more likely that she's putting forth what LACHESIS (120) has determined.

posted April 02, 2015 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ironically, no. I've found ATROPOS to be [b]inevitability. Not beginnings like KLOTHO, but more oriented towards making something that's inevitable come to pass. Perhaps that's an ending, in some cases.

It SEEMED to me that ATROPOS would be endings-oriented, especially being the Fate to cut the cord, but it seems more likely that she's putting forth what LACHESIS (120) has determined.

As you'd expect, LACHESIS seems more involved in instances of endings, or even death -- but only if those specific factors are there.[/B]

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I totally agree. I have a childhood guy friend that ALWAYS comes back and forth, in and out of my life, as if we are meant to have some sort of relationship and get it over with. Every time I see him I'm excited, but I dread it, because I'm not really ready to deal yet.

In synastry:
*My Klotho conjunct my ASC is conjunct his ASC.
*His Klotho is conjunct my Pluto
*His Lachesis is conjunct my SN
*My Lachesis/Moira/Venus is conjunct his NN
*My Atropos is conjunct his MC
*His Atropos is conjunct my Sun/MC/Pallas.

posted April 02, 2015 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ironically, no. I've found ATROPOS to be [b]inevitability. Not beginnings like KLOTHO, but more oriented towards making something that's inevitable come to pass. Perhaps that's an ending, in some cases.

It SEEMED to me that ATROPOS would be endings-oriented, especially being the Fate to cut the cord, but it seems more likely that she's putting forth what LACHESIS (120) has determined.

As you'd expect, LACHESIS seems more involved in instances of endings, or even death -- but only if those specific factors are there.[/B]

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posted April 03, 2015 10:01 PM              

With the Cancerian, I have the following "fate-asteroid" aspects:

My Atropos conjunct his Venus 0'
My Atropos conjunct his Mercury (ASC-MC ruler) 1'
His Atropos square my Nodes 2'

My Klotho conjunct his ASC 2'
My Klotho square his IC-MC 0'
His Klotho conjunct my Juno 0'

My Moira conjunct his Moon 2'
My Moira trine his Jupiter (DESC co-ruler) 1'
His Moira square my Sun 2'

My Lachesis conjunct his IC 4'
My Lachesis square his ASC-DESC 0'
My Lachesis square his Saturn (5th house ruler) 0'
My Lachesis square his Chiron 1'
My Lachesis quincunx his Sun 0'
His Lachesis opposite my Mercury 1'
His Lachesis square my Vertex 0'

My Karma square his Pluto 2'
My Karma trine his NN 1'
His Karma square my Mercury 2'
His Karma opposite my Vertex 3'

Lachesis square Lachesis 1'
Moira sextile Moira 1'
His Klotho trine my Karma 0'
His Karma opposite my Lachesis 1'

posted April 03, 2015 10:04 PM              

Tr. Klotho: Pisces 24'22
Tr. Mars: Pisces 21'29
Tr. Vertex: Sagittarius 24'33
Tr. Pholus: Sagittarius 25'28

My n. Mercury: Virgo 24'48
My n. Klotho: Virgo 19'57
My n. Vertex: Sagittarius 26'01
My n. Lachesis: Sagittarius 24°19
My n. Destinn: Sagittarius 27'12

His n. DESC: Pisces 21'57
His n. Saturn: Pisces 24'38
His n. Serendip: Pisces 19'27
His n. Lachesis: Pisces 26'09
His n. Chiron: Virgo 23'12
His n. Mars: Virgo 27'51
His n. IC: Sagittarius 20'03
His n. Karma: Gemini 22'47

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Tr. Atropos: Capricorn 9'24

My n. Moon: Cancer 8'13
My n. Mars: Cancer 9'45

His n. Mercury (ASC-MC ruler): Cancer 12'54

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Tr. Lachesis: Libra 2'56

His n. Moon: Aries 4'34

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Tr. Karma: Aquarius 14'13

My n. DESC: Aquarius 14'20

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Tr. Moira (Retro): Virgo 9'00
Tr. Neptune: Pisces 6'37

My n. Sun: Virgo 8'16
My n. Pholus: Virgo 8'50
My n. Saturn: Pisces 9'04

posted April 03, 2015 10:07 PM              

Tr. Moon: Libra 14'26
Tr. Uranus: Aries 13'34
Tr. Pluto: Capricorn 14'27 (tr. Pluto will go retro soon and oppose his Venus again)

His n. Venus: Cancer 15'15
His n. Mercury (ASC-MC ruler): Cancer 12'54

My n. Atropos: Cancer 14'25

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Tr. Mercury (Retro): Aquarius 1'44

His n. NN: Scorpio 1'37
His n. Klotho: Scorpio 0'31

My n. Juno: Scorpio 0'52

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Tr. Venus: Pisces 15'22
Tr. Chiron: Pisces 15'37

My n. Chiron: Virgo 13'46

His n. Pholus: Pisces 15'40

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posted September 24, 2015 12:12 AM            

Atropos is very plutonic and it has to do more about the inevitability of change but all endings are inevitable and change requires death of some sort. Letting someone all the way in is a form of death and letting someone go is as well.

When talking about synastry and composite some people can't handle the intensity of atropos and its transformative calling and choose to not answer the pounding door leading to a premature ending. I say pounding bc there is something about this energy that is relentless and feels like this pounding that does not want to be ignored; your heart will POUND.

I do notice that the intensity can be draining and lead to obsessiveness.

I feel with Atropos prominent both parties have to be able to handle the intensity and take a huge risk understanding that the relationship will be earth shaking but will not last as there is something about the energy of it that is hard to manage leading to obsessiveness and destruction of the relationship which often feels premature leaving you like so much potential was wasted.

"So we could in some ways say that Atropos helps define individuality by ‘cutting’ one thing away from all the rest. And that’s a nice way to think of it…except that with Atropos, it’s highly likely that we will realize how individual and maybe how special or important to us something is/was because it’s ending. Or even gone."

posted September 24, 2015 01:14 AM            

Asteroid Atropos Horoscope

posted September 24, 2015 05:04 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Edited:

Atropos is very plutonic and it has to do more about the inevitability of change but all endings are inevitable and change requires death of some sort. Letting someone all the way in is a form of death and letting someone go is as well.

When talking about synastry and composite some people can't handle the intensity of atropos and its transformative calling and choose to not answer the pounding door leading to a premature ending. I say pounding bc there is something about this energy that is relentless and feels like this pounding that does not want to be ignored; your heart will POUND.

I do notice that the intensity can be draining and lead to obsessiveness.

I feel with Atropos prominent both parties have to be able to handle the intensity and take a huge risk understanding that the relationship will be earth shaking but will not last as there is something about the energy of it that is hard to manage leading to obsessiveness and destruction of the relationship which often feels premature leaving you like so much potential was wasted.

"So we could in some ways say that Atropos helps define individuality by ‘cutting’ one thing away from all the rest. And that’s a nice way to think of it…except that with Atropos, it’s highly likely that we will realize how individual and maybe how special or important to us something is/was because it’s ending. Or even gone."

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posted September 24, 2015 05:14 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel this really fits:

Asteroid Atropos Horoscope

How appropriate then the standout aspect in the discovery chart is Saturn the grim reaper square cutting Mars (Atropos’s evil sheers). The two malefic’s are in a very tight square of just 03’! They are also both retrograde which again suggests the wheel of karma and the cycle of life. Atropos’ chart see’s both the Sun and the Moon attached to Dark Goddesses. We have the Sun conjunct Eris. My “Queen of Chaotic fate.” This shows the terror of Atropos. Death can be so random and unfair.
Moon is square both Lilith and Ceres too. To me Lilith conjunct Ceres is the potion (or poison)-making witch. Moon square Ceres: “ can turn very easily destroy life instead of saving it, they can love so hard and hug so tightly that they end up squeezing the life out of their loved ones.” There is a parasitic, vampiric element to Atropos. With Moon square Lilith “They may break under the pressure of this aspect and succumb to the temptation of Lilith’s forbidden fruit in the shape of sex addiction or drugs. If they manage to come through then these subjects are a fantastic example of the Phoenix rising from the flames.”
The last sentence is important, because we need to remember that after death comes new life. If your belief system allows you to re-cycle, then you will not be so fearful of Atropos and will see each ending as a new beginning.
Atropos Astrology,As for Atropos herself, she is at 5º Virgo 31’ which puts her in a weird aspect pattern that has her square the God of Hell (Pluto), trine the Witch (Ceres/Lilith), and quincunx the Moon. To me it actually does look like scissors!, but the Hubers call this pattern “The Runner”: “Reflex mechanisms were learnt back in childhood that could develop into addictions to certain actions and activities. This figure just needs to be nudged at one corner and it springs to life….This one is always getting into conflicts ( the squares V trines) Prehaps one is projecting something into the world (Trines) that does not suit it. Many people react to this by taking refuge in their work (Workoholics), or depending on the planets, sport or sex”[3]
Here the refuge looks more like sex and drugs with Lilith/Ceres/Pluto. Lilith/Ceres are on Sheratan in the randy ram, this star is makes it subjects “Daredevils and bold, danger is indicated when acting impulsively and in a foolhardy way.” I have seen the dark side of Ceres connected to opiates. Like Atropos, opiates can suck the life out of you and also dehydrate. Mars square Saturn at it’s very worst is petrified, so becomes a zombie. If the refuge is sex addiction, it will be one of those parasitic relationships that drain you of your money or energy, or both. In worst cases someone literally could be the death of you.

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Sounds like a terrible asteroid it's funny though how even the terrible ones, their negative energy can be used for good such as cutting off the negative so the positive has a chance to thrive! I love your information here it's awesome! Thank you Hyp!

posted September 24, 2015 07:02 AM            

Sounds scary

posted September 24, 2015 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Amazing insight, that really helps me to better understand this asteroid! Mine is exactly opposed my Neptune and conjunct my Ceres in my 9th house.
It also trines my Pluto/AC....I'm thinking this is a very good placement since it's in it's natural element touching Pluto, the planet of endings.
I've read if Atropos is in positive aspect to Pluto, 8th house or 8th house ruler you can expect your life to follow a very natural course, long life that's not cut off unexpectedly.

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Interesting I have Atropos conjunct porta coeli by less than 1d and Atropos and my Pluto square at 28d. Also poisedon conjuncts my Pluto by 3d and opposes amphitrite.

Maybe when transit pluto opposes my Atropos I will die in 2022, no way. Wow a Pluto opposite Atropos squaring natal pluto-poseidon making natal Pluto the apex. Actually Atropos is the apex as it squares Poseidon opposite amphitrite. Its really a gradcross, something is going down:

posted September 24, 2015 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Interesting I have Atropos conjunct porta coeli by less than 1d and Atropos and my Pluto square at 28d. Also poisedon conjuncts my Pluto by 3d and opposes amphitrite.

Maybe when transit pluto opposes my Atropos I will die in 2022, no way. Wow a Pluto opposite Atropos squaring natal pluto-poseidon making natal Pluto the apex. Actually Atropos is the apex as it squares Poseidon opposite amphitrite. Its really a gradcross, something is going down:

Death of my relationship or transformation of it and a renewal/new beginning, maybe renewal of my finances. Death of spouse or parent, inheritance.

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posted September 24, 2015 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Sounds like a terrible asteroid it's funny though how even the terrible ones, their negative energy can be used for good such as cutting off the negative so the positive has a chance to thrive! I love your information here it's awesome! Thank you Hyp!

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I love that interpretation Gabby and YES if you are smart you can use that energy to liberate yourself and I think that is often what ATROPOS is about, its about learning to enjoy to let go instead of holding on and if you embrace the death it can have a super liberating effect and be very empowering, if you fight it you are really going to hurt yourself. Right now I have transit Atropos opposing my Mars and Venus in the 8th.

Death=Change and can refer to the death of unproductive habits, thoughts, poor self image, poor patterns of relating, baggage, victimhood mentality, scarcity mentality, lack of faith in the cycles of life and in yourself, fear mentality, and anything weighting you down. Atropos can be used to get your power back .

However, in synastry and composite it has this energy of fatedness and inevitability about meeting, coming together and the ending of the relationship. With my ex our meeting felt inevitable and coming together felt inevitable and so did our ending. His Atropos Conjuncts my MC and my Sun and my Atropos trines his Sun so we had an ATROPOS-SUN double Whammy.

Further in our composite we had Atropos on REGULUS star squaring very tightly our composite URANUS in the first which was the reaction point of a composite YOD involving CHIRON in the 7th at the apex and a huge sun stellium on one leg and Kaali-Neptune-BML-Spirit on the other.

Strangely even though it took me forever to get over him and till this day still love him but I am fully healed and at peace with it I did feel a sense of relief when I broke up with him. There is something about atropos that has again this liberating effect and I am thinking it has to also be about clearing karma in addition to everything I just mentioned above.

I am fascinated by this asteroid. The last guy I had an interest in reminded me a lot about my ex even though HE really should not, they have NOTHING in common at all in ANY way! BUT my ATROPOS conjuncts his Sun-Moon-Mars and that is why he reminded of my ex I ended up realizing, he definitely brought out similar feelings in me, we had composite valentine conjunct atropos BUT he was married to his job and did not want anything to disrupt his already established homeostasis, he doesn't want to be transformed, take the risk of letting someone completely in and then have to let go; that is too scary (that is the impression I got anyways, he has valentine conjunct Saturn and Priapus, letting go like that is extremely scary for him and he hides in WORK WORK WORK).

ATROPOS does not f*ck around, it is a powerful energy and not for everyone when it comes to relationships. ATROPOs comes with hard lessons about respecting the cycles of life and death and about transformation but if you learn those lessons and embrace atropos it is very liberating and clears out A LOT of karma.

posted September 24, 2015 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Has anyone found it prominent in synastries in where the two involved are meant to clear karma with one another and move on? Or in more simpler terms, are they meant to break up and never come together for good?

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The day my EX and I broke up Transit ATROPOS was in my 7th opposing my Neptune in the first conjunct his Mars-Valentine and it was squaring exact my SUN opposing Transit Moon.

posted September 25, 2015 09:41 AM              

The day my grandmother passed away Tr ATropos was exact on my natal Vertex and far Sun/Moon-mp.

When I first met P, Tr Atropos was exactly opposing my Pluto and conjunct the first meeting chart`s IC by 1 degree.

when he first approached me after that (3 years later actually. lol) Tr Atropos was conjunct Tr Pluto exact and both conjunct my natal Venus

When I decided to lose weight, a decision which pretty much changed my life actually, as it affected many other things happening as result of it.

Tr Atropos was in my 6th house opposing Mars exact

posted September 25, 2015 12:20 PM            

It is opposing my Venus conjunct Mars which rules my IC and MC and I have been feeling a big urge and very determined to make some important changes and move out from the living situation that I am in right now.

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273 Atropos
120 Lachesis
97 Klotho
638 Moira
3811 Karma
6583 Destinn
6568 Serendip
5145 Pholus