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CosmiqPhuz
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posted June 22, 2015 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
no, I don't think that is good way. I am not a Scorpio moon but I would still suspect the intentions of the man who starts this way. You have come to her to open her wound and to heal it. There is karmic lesson to it. She has to turn more spiritual. The best part is that you realize that you are to heal. So, how would a healer react? He is patient and calm. If you pursue her, she will move back.


I see what you're saying, and it makes sense. But since she's been wounded, is it possible that she's likely to test me more and see how sincere I am? Like a persistence kind of thing? Wouldn't playing it cool give her the message that I'm not interested?

Then again, I also see your point about scaring her away by pursuing. Especially if she's been hurt.

Kinda reminds me of the film "Frankie and Johnny" with Al Pacino and Michelle Pfiefer.

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posted June 22, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think as long as you have doubts about sharing your sincere intentions, it is not the time to do that. When the timing is right there will be no doubts about sharing those words.

Scorpio Moon also here. Coincidentally a guy that really likes me recently said to me "You're putting me big time through ur tests". And I was like "huh??? just being my own Self, no more or less". So I would be a bit careful with thinking as such. It sounded as if I had calculated an entire future ahead for the both of us. Which entirely beyond the truth and a bit of of a turn off. I do like him, yes. But I don't expect us coming together. Although I wouldn't totally exclude it a priori.

Btw, my parents had an exact Chiron/Venus conjunction (his Chiron)

But I can't say my dad healed/saved my mom. Rather the other way around IF I had to make a choice.

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posted June 22, 2015 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think as long as you have doubts about sharing your sincere intentions, it is not the time to do that. When the timing is right there will be no doubts about sharing those words.

Scorpio Moon also here. Coincidentally a guy that really likes me recently said to me "You're putting me big time through ur tests". And I was like "huh??? just being my own Self, no more or less". So I would be a bit careful with thinking as such. It sounded as if I had calculated an entire future ahead for the both of us. Which entirely beyond the truth and a bit of of a turn off. I do like him, yes. But I don't expect us coming together. Although I wouldn't totally exclude it a priori.

Btw, my parents had an exact Chiron/Venus conjunction (his Chiron)

But I can't say my dad healed/saved my mom. Rather the other way around IF I had to make a choice.


Good point, mir. It's not really my nature to actively pursue anyway (venus scorpio). Most of my relationships/interests involved scorpio moon women, so you'd think I know how to deal with them now! I love the deep and intense emotions.

So, you like the guy, but not necessarily see coming together with him. How do you act when you potentially want to be with someone?

Were your parents happy?

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posted June 22, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So, you like the guy, but not necessarily see coming together with him. How do you act when you potentially want to be with someone?

I'm pretty clear about that. So, they WILL know I like them. But that's something I've learned with the years I guess. No hiding or other immature tricks anymore. Time is too short for that.


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Were your parents happy?

Yes, very happy together and a very creative couple as they were both endowed with great writing skills in which they complemented each other impressively (DW Sun/Mercury TRINE). Communication between them has Always been
Next to that they were a BIG support to each other on every level (mainly my mom during the last 5 years of his life in which my dad suffered a LOT job-related which finally also got him 'killed'). They were an example for many couples around us.
And well, let's face it, staying together in BAD times and support each other.. IS a pretty rare thing usually. My mom missed him until she passed away herself in 2011 (at age 69 / my dad at age 55).

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posted June 22, 2015 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, very happy together and a very creative couple as they were both endowed with great writing skills in which they complemented each other impressively (DW Sun/Mercury TRINE). Communication between them has Always been
Next to that they were a BIG support to each other on every level (mainly my mom during the last 5 years of his life in which my dad suffered a LOT job-related which finally also got him 'killed'). They were an example for many couples around us.
And well, let's face it, staying together in BAD times and support each other.. IS a pretty rare thing usually. My mom missed him until she passed away herself in 2011 (at age 69 / my dad at age 55).

That sounds beautiful. I agree, communication is often overlooked.

Sorry about their passing though.

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posted June 23, 2015 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They also had a Venus/Pluto conjunction (pretty tight I thought) and a Venus/Mars trine + Square (I saw you having 2 of them also funnily enough). Forgot to mention that hehe. But a Venus/Mars DW trine, nice!

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posted June 23, 2015 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They also had a Venus/Pluto conjunction (pretty tight I thought) and a Venus/Mars trine + Square (I saw you having 2 of them also funnily enough). Forgot to mention that hehe. But a Venus/Mars DW trine, nice!

Haha, some pretty similar aspects there! Glad you chimed in and mentioned about your parents, mir.

If only this girl really knew/believed how I felt. Hopefully, it can turn into something great like our synastry suggests.

Here's to the love your parents had!

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posted June 23, 2015 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I see what you're saying, and it makes sense. But since she's been wounded, is it possible that she's likely to test me more and see how sincere I am? Like a persistence kind of thing? Wouldn't playing it cool give her the message that I'm not interested?

Then again, I also see your point about scaring her away by pursuing. Especially if she's been hurt.

Kinda reminds me of the film "Frankie and Johnny" with Al Pacino and Michelle Pfiefer.


I didn't mean don't do anything, I meant don't scare her away. You pursue but not in an obvious way. Let her know that you are genuine and not just another guy. With intense aspects it will not take time to break the ice. Also, Chiron aspects are not dealbreakers my parents have them too. They are married for a long time. My dad's Chiron conjuncts my mom's Mars. So, I can say my dad took my mom's energy to charge ahead and my Mom took my dad's healing powers to soothe her wounds. In Scorpio, they were deep emotional wounds. I feel Chiron is very much fated and karmic in nature. It brings out the wounds that affected you the most and if the healer is an evolved person it can be a beautiful relationship for both.

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posted June 23, 2015 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I see what you're saying, and it makes sense. But since she's been wounded, is it possible that she's likely to test me more and see how sincere I am? Like a persistence kind of thing? Wouldn't playing it cool give her the message that I'm not interested?

Then again, I also see your point about scaring her away by pursuing. Especially if she's been hurt.

Kinda reminds me of the film "Frankie and Johnny" with Al Pacino and Michelle Pfiefer.


Cosmic here are some tips, check squares to NN, from moon or sun. Moon trine asc, conjunct asc are for healing and accepting aspects. Look for Jupiter as he will take off the burden. Moon-Jupiter, Venus-Jupiter even better.

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posted June 23, 2015 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm going through my very own Chiron tragedy.

His Chiron opp my Venus
My Venus sq his Chiron
My Mars on his SN
My SN on his Pluto
Sun sq Mars double whammy.

I could keep going on...I know it means pain but I love him so much I could throw myself in a fire for him.
I feel he knows everything about me. I feel transparent.
So weird

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posted June 23, 2015 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks NikiVenus, that helps.

Soltze, sorry to hear about your troubles. When I looked at your placements, those sun square mars dw stuck out to me. The Venus-Chiron square/opposite would seem difficult too. What happened if you don't mind me asking?

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posted June 23, 2015 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soltze:
Well, I'm going through my very own Chiron tragedy.

His Chiron opp my Venus
My Venus sq his Chiron
My Mars on his SN
My SN on his Pluto
Sun sq Mars double whammy.

I could keep going on...I know it means pain but I love him so much I could throw myself in a fire for him.
I feel he knows everything about me. I feel transparent.
So weird


Hey, don't be sad, things will get better Stay strong

Besides, this ^ post was Interpersonal Astrology's 55555th !

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posted June 26, 2015 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soltze:
Well, I'm going through my very own Chiron tragedy.

His Chiron opp my Venus
My Venus sq his Chiron
My Mars on his SN
My SN on his Pluto
Sun sq Mars double whammy.

I could keep going on...I know it means pain but I love him so much I could throw myself in a fire for him.
I feel he knows everything about me. I feel transparent.
So weird


Are there any jupiter,moon,venus and ascendant harmonius aspects? Do whatever but don't throw yourself in fire for anyone. It will accumulate negative karma.

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posted June 26, 2015 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's an interesting question Nikivenus.

I went emotionally through the same (as Soltze) for the first 2 years of my heavy Chiron relationship. But I learned a lot and it's progressed/transformed into something beautifully with which I can be truly satisfied now. But without the 'throwing myself into a fire' trigger and all the drama we went through.. it never would have been wat it is now. Something I appreciate more than anything..

Chiron (me) square his Venus/Nept (0 deg)
Chiron (him) conjunct my Venus (4)

Moon trine Moon
Moon sextile Venus

(^ composite Moon exactly conjunct his natal Venus - which then ofcourse makes that wonderful mini grand trine).

I do consider this Moon/Moon/Venus configuration the best we have in our synastry.

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posted June 27, 2015 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's an interesting question Nikivenus.

I went emotionally through the same (as Soltze) for the first 2 years of my heavy Chiron relationship. But I learned a lot and it's progressed/transformed into something beautifully with which I can be truly satisfied now. But without the 'throwing myself into a fire' trigger and all the drama we went through.. it never would have been wat it is now. Something I appreciate more than anything..

Chiron (me) square his Venus/Nept (0 deg)
Chiron (him) conjunct my Venus (4)

Moon trine Moon
Moon sextile Venus

(^ composite Moon exactly conjunct his natal Venus - which then ofcourse makes that wonderful mini grand trine).

I do consider this Moon/Moon/Venus configuration the best we have in our synastry.


That's sweet thank you, I meant in a literal sense. Relationships that reach your soul throw you into fire without asking for your permission . But yes, how is it now? Moon and Venus are sweet to have. I feel that this relationship brought a feeling of comfort and nurturing to him. Tell me more about it

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posted June 27, 2015 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Aries Chiron conjunct a man's Aries venus (the orb is wide, 6) and his Aqua Chiron squares my Scorpio Venus (7 degree), in parallels my Chiron parallels his Venus.

We are not in a relationship, he is married, but we both fell for each other some years ago and emotionally we went through hell. His behavior pushed all the weak buttons in me, I suffered a lot. He rejected me after he had confessed his feelings for me. Plus he had a big family, I was spending a lot of time alone.

I decided to detach, we still saw each other from time to time due to external circumstances, but I kind of ripped myself from this obsession. I managed to take him off the podium. I still love him very much, but I have someone else now Im much more comfortable with.

We have recently got closer again and have been developing a friendly connection that is possible only thanks to the distance I put between us. I see that the affection and love still exist on his side too. Dont know what the time will bring, but Chiron-Venus to me is the ultimate love connection. And yes, healing is possible, but we went through emotional hell.

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posted June 27, 2015 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have my Aries Chiron conjunct a man's Aries venus (the orb is wide, 6) and his Aqua Chiron squares my Scorpio Venus (7 degree), in parallels my Chiron parallels his Venus.

We are not in a relationship, he is married, but we both fell for each other some years ago and emotionally we went through hell. His behavior pushed all the weak buttons in me, I suffered a lot. He rejected me after he had confessed his feelings for me. Plus he had a big family, I was spending a lot of time alone.

I decided to detach, we still saw each other from time to time due to external circumstances, but I kind of ripped myself from this obsession. I managed to take him off the podium. I still love him very much, but I have someone else now Im much more comfortable with.

We have recently got closer again and have been developing a friendly connection that is possible only thanks to the distance I put between us. I see that the affection and love still exist on his side too. Dont know what the time will bring, but Chiron-Venus to me is the ultimate love connection. And yes, healing is possible, but we went through emotional hell.


What other aspects did you two have in synastry, jjj?

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posted June 27, 2015 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cosmiq,

my Sun conj his Saturn
my Sun trines his Pluto
my Moon conj his Neptune
my Moon sextiles his Pluto
my AC trines his Sun
my AC squares his Venus
my Venus/Mars (they are conj in Scorpio) trine his Sun
my Mars squares his Moon
my Mars quincunx his Venus and Mars (our venus-mars midpoints are opposed)
my Uranus opposes his Venus
my Uranus trine his Moon and Mars
my Uranus cobj his NN
my Chiron square his Saturn
my Chiron trine his Jupiter
my Chiron quincunx his Neptune
my NN conj his Chiron

his Valentine conjuncts my Venus/Mars
my Pluto quindeciles his Sun and Venus

plenty of other aspects , these were the most relevant I guess

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posted June 27, 2015 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jjj,

Honestly, 6º is out of orb -- by a lot. I might consider 3º30, if there's also a parallel.

But there's something else going on there. It's not VENUS conjunct CHIRON. That's just way too wide.

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posted June 27, 2015 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The parallel is very tight and by Magi it is sufficient. I feel that Chiron venus between us anyway, a lot.

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posted June 28, 2015 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne, I noticed you had some "feelings" - telekinetic type of gift in another thread (don't know if that's the right term). Would you be able to tell me anything regarding the situation with this girl I like? Particularly what she's thinking or how she feels about me.

I don't know if that's a lot to ask, but if it is, then I apologize and forget about it.

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posted December 25, 2019 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about in Parallel aspect? Heard magis use it more than other aspects?

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posted October 20, 2023 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockwell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
CHIRON conjunct MC (0°)
VALENTINE-PSYCHE conjunct CHIRON (0°)

While VENUS wasn't involved in their case, it hardly matters. VENUS, MOON, SUN, MARS, asteroids -- it's meaningless except in the sense of the type of pain that's being brought forth from CHIRON.

In my own experiences, CHIRON conjunct VENUS has led to some wonderful best friendships that blew up and ended in total estrangement.

It's just dicey when you get our deepest wounds involved. Few know how to handle the level of pain and persevere for true healing.


Has just happened to me. I'm Venus in Taurus and he is Chiron. I saw in him a lovely person whom I would like to have as a buddy in my life and initially we got along fabulously. I showered him with affection but it was not reciprocated. With every action he basicaly showed me that how little I really meant fo him and that I was neither a priority in his life nor had a place there. A constant take but no give. I was so incredibly hurt and therefore distanced myself to limit the pain, blocking him on all channels so that no more contact is possible.

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