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Ceridwen
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posted October 09, 2015 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GP 2
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(1) 0-2 Aqua/Leo, Gem/Sag
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my tp Hephaistos 1 Gemini

his sp Mercury 2 Sag
his tp 8th cusp 2 Leo

(2) Hephaistos in Gemini
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my sp Hephaistos on 25 Gemini in 7th
my tp Hephaistos on 1 Gemini in 3rd


(3) intercepted ruler aspects
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my secondary progressed

Leo (i) in my 8th
Sun 1 Cap conjunct Mercury 2 Cap in 1st

Aqua (i) in 2nd
Uranus in 1 Scorpio


r 3 Neptune on 10 Sag in 1st
conjunct NN on 10 Sag in 1st
conjunct ASC on 10 Sag in 1st
opposite Kaali on 11 Gemini in 7th
square Zeus-Jupiter on 10-11 Pisces


- will you be surprised if I tell you that our first meeting chart has ASC on 10 Sagittarius and Eros on 12 Gemini? (Kaali in the fmc was on 19 Gemini, and more strongly related to HIS angles in the progressions. lol)-


r 11, Pluto in 9 Libra
conjunct MC on 10 Libra
square Isis-Osiris 10-11 Cap
trine Kaali 11 Gemini

my tertiary progressed
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Pisces (i) in 1st
Neptune on 11 Sag
conjunct MC on 11 Sag
conjunct Apoll on 12 Sag
oppospite Kaali on 12 Gemini


r 11, Jupiter on 24 Pisces
trine Moon on 22 Cancer

his secondary progressed
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Aquarius (i) in 1st
Uranus on 23 Scorpio
conjunct Sun/Moon-mp on 22 Scorpio

Leo (i) in 7th
Sun on 21 Sag
conjunct Neptune on 20 Sag
conjunct DNA on 18 Sag
conjunct MC on 23 Sag


r3, Mercury
2 Sag in 8th
conjunct Kaali on 4 Sag
trine Osiris on 4 Aries
square NN on 2 Virgo

r 11, Saturn
26 Virgo in 7th
conjunct Apollo-Vertex on 24 Virgo


his tertiary progressed
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r 3, Neptune
18 Sag conjunct ASC on 20 Sag

r 11, Pluto on 19 Libra
conjunct Sun on 19 Libra


(4) angular
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my sp ASC 10 Sag
conjunct Neptune on 10 Sag
conjunct Mars on 8 Sag

my sp DESC 10 Gemini
conjunct Kaali on 11 Gemini

my sp MC on 10 LIbra
conjunct Pluto on 9 Libra


my tp ASC on 17 Aqua (my n Moon!)
conjunct Isis on 19 Aquarius

my tp MC on 11 Sag
conjunct Neptune on 11 Sag
conjunct Apoll on 12 Sag

my tp IC on 11 Gem
conjunct Kaali on 12 Gem

his sp DESC on 13 Virgo
conjunct Jupiter on 10 Virgo

his sp MC on 23 Sag
conjunct Sun on 21 Sag
conjunct Neptune on 20 Sag

his tp ASC on 20 Sag
conjunct Neptune on 18 Sag

his tp DESC on 20 Gemini
conjunct Isis on 21 Gemini


(5) other aspects
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a) Isis-Osiris

my sp Isis conjunct Osiris on 10-11 Cap
conjunct sp Spirit-Venus on 12 Cap

my tp Osiris on 7 Aquarius
trine Pluto on 8 Libra

his sp Isis on 10 Gemini
square Mars-Jupiter on 10-11 Virgo

his sp Osiris on 4 Aries
square Alma on 4 Cancer
trine Kaali on 4 Sag


his tp Isis on 21 Gemini
square Satrn on 21 Virgo
trine Sun-Pluto on 19 Libra

his tp Osiris on 6 Aries
opp. Serpe on 4 Libra
square Alma on 6 Cancer

other aspects:

my sp Apollo on 29 Libra conj. Uranus on 1 Sco

my sp Zeus on 10 Pisces
conjunct Jupiter on 11 Pisces
opposite Serpe on 8 Virgo
square Kaali on 11 Gemini

my sp Sun/Moon-mp 24 Aquarius
my sp PoF 24 Leo

my tp Zeus 3 Aries
quinkunx Uranus on 2 Scorpio
quinkunx DNA on 4 Scorpio
quinkunx SErpe on 1 Virgo
(a Yod)

my tp SErpe 1 Virgo
opposite Sun 3 Pisces
square Hephaistos 1 Gemini


my tp Uranus on 2 Scorpio conjunct DNA on 4 Scorpio,
trine Sun on 3 Pisces

his sp Zeus on 18 Cap conjunct Venus on 19 Cap
square Spirit on 18 Libra


his sp Hephaistos on 13 Taurus
opposite SErpe on 14 Scorpio


his sp Moon on 23 LIbra conjunct Pluto on 21 LIbra

his tp Zeus on 1 Cap trine Jupiter on 2 Virgo

his tp Apollo on 5 Virgo conjnct NN on 7 Vg

his tp Uranus conjunct DNA on 19 Scorpio exact

his tp Kaali conjunct Venus on 2 Scorpio exact


his tp NN 7 Virgo=
his tp Sun/Moon-mp 7 Virgo

his tp Chiron 12 Taurus=
his tp Isis/Osiris 13 Taurus


So what do you think about these?

EDIT
BTW I just noticed that we both have the tp Moon in Cancer; mine in 22 Cancer, his in 27 Cancer


oh and my sp Moon in Aries (17 degree, right on my Draco Sun. lol) - and his sp Moon in Libra (23 degrees, right on his Draco ASC).

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posted October 10, 2015 08:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most twinflamey couple I know are my parents, who curiously enough seem to combine both theories on twinflames, the more romantic as well as the mission-oriented (though they would never call it a "mission" themselves).
But even if not, they`ve certainly been togehter for a long time and still going strong (41 years of marriage this year).


I checked their charts, but did modify the approach a little bit, Peluches.


(1) 0-2 Aqua/Leo - Gemini/Sag
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her sp OSIRIS on 1 Sag

his tp OSIRIS on 2 Gem
his tp ALMA on 1 Leo


(2) HEPHAISTOS in Gemini
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her sp Hephaistos (r) on 11 Gemini in 12th
her tp HEPHAISTOS (r) on 13 Gemini in 12th


- well, I find it interesting that only HER has the Hephaistos-in-Gemini-Placements (his are in Pisces).

Also retrogrades, Phew, there are such a lot (as I had noticed in the check up with my GP`s as well); well it possibly is still average in my mom`s chart, including the asteroids, 4 retros.

But for my Dad? 10 retrogrades in each progression chart.
DNA, Neptune, Mercury, Venus, Uranus, SERPE, ISIS, ALMA, Pluto and Saturn in the sp chart

Mars, Neptune, Venus, Uranus, SERPE, ISIS, ALMA, Pluto, Saturn and DNA in the tp chart

for my Mom retros are:

Uranus, KAALI, Jupiter, HEPHAISTOS in sp chart
KAALI, Jupiter, HEPHAISTOS in tp chart


Why those retros? why only in one chart THAT many?
Could it possibly imply a subconscious memory of each other being triggered? Or one partner "returning" to the other, while the other pulls the relationship forwards?


(3) intercepted houses and ruleraspects
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her charts:
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her sp chart:
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Sagittarius (i) in 6th
Jupiter (r) in 6 Aries in 10th
quinkunx Moon on IC on 5 Virgo in 3rd/4th
quinkunx ZEUS on 5 Scorpio in 5th
opposite Saturn on 8 Libra in 4th/ 5th

Gemini (i) in 12th,
Mercury 9 Scorpio in 5th
quinkunx HEPHAISTOS (4) on 11 Gemini in 12th


I find it interesting that Gemini is intercepted (in 12th) and its ruler, Mercury, is aspecting Hephaistos, which is intercepted in Gemini in 12th house

r3, Sun 1 Scorpio in 5th
no real important aspects


r11, Mars 12 Virg in 4th
opposite KAALI (r) 13 Pisces in 10th
square HEPHAISTOS (r) 11 Gemini in 12th

-that T-square is certainly interesting.

her tp chart
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Scorpio (i) in 6th
Pluto 20 Leo in 4th
square OSIRIS and Moon on 22 Scorpio in 6th
trine ALMA (on DESC) on 19 Sag in 6th/7th


Taurus (i) in 12th
Venus 3 Virgo n 4th
square SERPE 4 Sag in 6th


r3, Moon on 22 Scorpio in 6th
conjunct OSIRIS on 22 Scorpio in 6th
square Pluto on 20 Leo in 4th

r 11, Neptune on 18 Libra in 5th
square DNA on 17 Cap in 8th


That very exact Moon-OSIRIS-conjunction is certainly interesting.


his sp chart
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no interceptions

r3, Pluto (r) 17 Leo in 11th
opposite ZEUS on 17 Aqua in 5th
trine SPIRIT (on IC) on 17 Sag in 4th
trine CHIRON on 18 Sag in 4th
quinkunx Mercury (r) on 18 Cap in 4th


r11, Moon on 22 Taurus in 9th
sextile ISIS(r) and SERPE (r) on 24 Cancer in 11th

- if you have made it so far in reading. lol, you will certainly have noticed the placement of my Mom`s tp Moon on 22 Scorpio and my Dad`s sp Moon on 22 Taurus

his tp chart
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Sag (i) in 3rd
Jupiter 17 Aqua in 5th
opposite Pluto (r) 16 Leo in 11th
quinkunx Saturn r 17 Virgo in 12th
trine Neptune r 17 Libra in 1st


Gem (i) in 9th
Mercury 3 Aqua in 4th
conjunct Venus (r) on 3 Aqua in 4th
trine OSIRIS on 2 Gem in 9th
opposite ALMA (r) in 1 Leo in 10th


and once again, Gemini is being intercepted...
(it seems to happen often, either Gemini or the 3rd house being or having an intercepted sign, and often enough containing significant planets or asteroids - in my Mom`s case it was HEPHAISTOS, in my Dad`s case OSIRIS)


r3, Pluto (i) 16 Leo 11th
opoiste Jupiter 17 Aqua 5th

r11, Sun 29 Aquarius 5th
trine Uranus (r) 1 Cancer 9th

- I usually only consider in-sign-aspects, but this seemed significant for the relation to Uranus and the AP, Sun on the last degree of Aquarius certainly is a placement that calls for attention as well-

(4) ANGULARITY
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her sp IC on 6 Virgo conjunct Moon on 5 Virgo
her sp MC on 6 Pisces conjunct NN on 8 Pisces

her tp DESC on 20 Sag conjunct ALMA on 19 Sag


his sp ASC on 19 Virgo conjunct Saturn on 18 Virgo
his sp IC on 15 Sag conjunct SPIRIT on 17 Sag

his tp DESC on 4 Aries conjunct NN on 7 Aries


- it certainly is difficult to ignore how this alignment SCREAMS for a closer examination, crosswise, synastrically, that SPIRIT-ALMA intercrossing (even across the diff. progressed charts), aligned with the angles in both cases.-

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posted October 10, 2015 09:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(5) aspects
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a) ISIS-OSIRIS aspects

no real significance in her sp chart

her tp ISIS 16 Scorpio in 5th
trine KAALI (r) 16 Pisces 11th

her tp OSIRIS conjunct Moon in 22 Scorpio in 5th

his sp ISIS (r) conjunct SERPE (r) on 24 Cancer in 11th

his sp OSIRIS 28 Taurus in 9th
opposite KAALI 28 Scorpio in 3rd
trine DNA (r) 28 Virgo in 1st


- noticed how KAALI aspects HER ISIS and HIS OSIRIS exact? -

anyway

his tp ISIS (r) conjunct SERPE (r) on 20 Cancer
quinkunx Chiron on 20 Sag in 2nd

his tp OSIRIS on 2 Gemini in 9th
trine Mercury on 3 Aqua in 4th
trine Venus (r) on 3 Aqua in 4th


It is interesting but the SAbian of his tp OSIRIS
"The Garden Of The Tuileries In Paris"

and their first holiday together was in Paris, and in fact they have been there quite a lot (my Mom feels a strong connection with that place, called it "her" city even - and well it makes sense somehow.)

b) Sun-Moon-aspects
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her tp Sun on 10 Libra in 5th
opposite Jupiter on 9 Aries

her tp Moon on 22 Scorpio conjunct OSIRIS in 5th


his sp Sun on 7 Aquarius 5th
opposite ALMA on 5 Leo in 11th

c) Sun-Moon and ISIS-OSIRIS-and ANGULAR intercrosses
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I just could not NOT notice that:

her tp Moon 22 Scorpio
his sp Moon 22 Taurus

her sp ISIS 27 Scorpio
his sp OSIRIS 28 Taurus

her sp OSIRIS 1 Sag
his tp OSIRIS 2 Gem

her tp OSIRIS 22 Scorpio
his sp Moon 22 Taurus

Also it is almost funny, but the ISIS/OSIRIS-mp of my Dad falls onto 26 Gemini, in sp AND tp chart!

No strong relations to my Mom`s chart (though it IS opposite my n Sun curiously)

in terms of angles:

her sp ASC 10 Cancer
his tp MC 5 Cancer

her tp ASC 20 Gem
his sp MC 15 Gem

- yes I know, very wide with 5 degrees, but it is 5 degrees BOTH times, and both times HER angle is on the higher degree, I do not know if or what that means but it seems at least interesting to note)

d) HEPHAISTOS
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Im ean, if he wanted to sew them up....

her sp HEPHAISTOS (r) on 11 Gem in 12th
opposite SERPE on 13 Sag in 6th
trine APOLLO on 12 Libra on 5th (on cusp)
square KAALI on 13 Pisces in 10th (r)

her tp HEPHAISTOS on 13 Gem in 12th
trine ZEUS on 12 Libra in 5th


his sp HEPHAISTOS on 10 Pisces in 6th


his tp HEPHAISTOS on 25 Pisces in 6th
opposite DNA r on 25 Virgo in 12th
trine APOLL on 26 Scorpio in 2nd/3rd


-maybe it helps to have him aspect Zeus and/ or Apoll for a reunion? -

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From that I would say, also keep an eye on possible interaspects in the sp and tp charts between Sun-Moon-combos, Isis-Osiris and the angles, possibly also Sun, Moon, Isis, Osiris TO the angles.

I also find it noteable that my parents both had an angle in Gemini.

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posted October 10, 2015 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad's porta coeli conjunct my Sun exact
my porta coeli R 17° Gemini his Uranus R 19° Gemini.

my daughter and I have porta coeli conjunct porta coeli; hers is right at 19 Gemini on my Dad's Uranus.

In terms of guardian soulmates I feel pretty strongly about my dad (who has passed on). I was there when he died. I wonder if there is any indication that porta coeli relates to our moment of departure from this world?

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posted October 10, 2015 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Hephaistos regularly used in twin flame/significant soul-relationship study? I'm curious because it's right on my descendant natally and I would like to explore the significance further... seems like an important piece of the puzzle for me personally. Is the 7th house cusp telling in twin flame study? How does it play in? Given that twin flames are thought to be one and the same in some essential way (correct?), the descendant as mirror showing ourselves to ourselves through the other (an idea I've been working with: that that furthest from ourselves is most useful in connecting with the reality of our actual interrelatedness/oneness... the most challenging point to reconcile as truly being part of us being the most important one to identify as being so, must be activated in a twin flame scenario, yes? Or maybe I'm way off in left field with that one)

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"Is Hephaistos regularly used in twin flame/significant soul-relationship study?"
No,n ot so far. It`s a pretty unique approach Peluches suggested. Though it is very strongly connected with the myth as Plato told it.

After the splitting of the twinsouls into two, however, Hephaistos offered to reunite them (when they were ready for it) as Plato tells us:

"If Hephaestus, son of Zeus, were to ask the pair; 'do you desire to be wholly one, always day and night to be in one another's company? For if this is what you desire, I am ready to melt you into one and let you grow together, so that being two you shall become one, and after your death in the world beyond you will still be one departed soul instead of two - I ask whether this is what you lovingly desire?' "

While HEPHAISTOS might not be associated with the actual pairing, he might play a significant role in bringing them together (again).


"Is the 7th house cusp telling in twin flame study? "
Personally I believe it is, yes.

While Peluches did not specifically commented on that (though it has been of course written about in myriads of astro-books before. lol in terms of relationships in general of course), I would expect that.

As you can see it holds true for my parent`s too.

I just found the approach so intriguing of, instead of dissecting the natal charts, checking the progressed charts as to what was going on at the exact moment the other partner was born. Of course while I used fairly generous orbs of 2 degrees, it really is the exact alignments which take precedence of course.

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posted October 10, 2015 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Is Hephaistos regularly used in twin flame/significant soul-relationship study?"
No,n ot so far. It`s a pretty unique approach Peluches suggested. Though it is very strongly connected with the myth as Plato told it.

After the splitting of the twinsouls into two, however, Hephaistos offered to reunite them (when they were ready for it) as Plato tells us:

"If Hephaestus, son of Zeus, were to ask the pair; 'do you desire to be wholly one, always day and night to be in one another's company? For if this is what you desire, I am ready to melt you into one and let you grow together, so that being two you shall become one, and after your death in the world beyond you will still be one departed soul instead of two - I ask whether this is what you lovingly desire?' "

While HEPHAISTOS might not be associated with the actual pairing, he might play a significant role in bringing them together (again).


Ohh wow OK I need to do me some research. Was unaware of the myth recounted by Plato... although this reminds me strongly of the song "Origin of Love" from "Hedwig and the Angry Inch"...

Here's the Rufus cover, in case you're interested, just for fun:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYQGgl-quVg


...

quote:


"Is the 7th house cusp telling in twin flame study? "
Personally I believe it is, yes.

While Peluches did not specifically commented on that (though it has been of course written about in myriads of astro-books before. lol in terms of relationships in general of course), I would expect that.

As you can see it holds true for my parent`s too.

I just found the approach so intriguing of, instead of dissecting the natal charts, checking the progressed charts as to what was going on at the exact moment the other partner was born. Of course while I used fairly generous orbs of 2 degrees, it really is the exact alignments which take precedence of course.


Yes, that's an extremely beautiful approach to take :')

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posted October 10, 2015 11:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I remember that song. Never forget the first time I saw and heard HIM sing it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRIY2SHHHhs

especially the last stanza.
It felt (and partly still feels) so painful to hear that, only when HE sings it though, curiously.
I don`t know. Strange thing that.
Also strangely I could literally FEEL desert sand beneath my feet, hearing this. As I said, strange.

But he himself seemed to have been a bit obsessed with that song, as he would cover it for years on any of his concerts as I heard (I hadn`t heard him on a concert for many years).

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posted October 10, 2015 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a very visceral, moving song! I understand being transported by it, very imagistic and evocative... i cover it sometimes too and it's really rewarding to play... so fun. I think I don't fully understand it because I'm still able to find it a fun song so heart wrenching though... gah!

"The last time I saw you, we were just split in two
you were lookin at me and I-i was lookin at you
you had a face so familiar but I could not recognize cause you had blood in your face and I had blood in my eyes-- but I could swear by your expression that the pain down in your soul
was the same
as the pain down in mine
That's the pain cuts
a straight line down the middle
we call it love
so we push ourselves together try to get ourselves back together
we were makin love!"

Whoa. I'm paraphrasing, but whoa, the feels.

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Yeah, I know what you mean THAT stanza!

I guess it resonates too deeply - intense with me, so I can`t quite receive it on a fun-level, even though I think it is an AMAZING song, with the build up and all.

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posted October 10, 2015 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I check Porta Coeli with my candidate to Soul Mate lol

His Porta Coeli opp my Sun exact
His Uranus conj my Porta Coeli (2º)

Whatever I check there's always aspects...

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posted October 10, 2015 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Soltze:
I check Porta Coeli with my candidate to Soul Mate lol

His Porta Coeli opp my Sun exact
His Uranus conj my Porta Coeli (2º)

Whatever I check there's always aspects...



kinda similar to my aspects with my dad <3

Zero doubt he's part of my soul family big time.

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posted October 10, 2015 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I present the discovery chart of Hephaistos


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So his Karma, his job to do, is in Gemini, in the sign of Twins, add to that his NN is in the other Mercurial ruled sign, and how fitting for this practical God!

And right on top of the NN - EROS, which incidentally is sextile PSYCHE; not conjunct, but sextile, still nice enough I suppose.

The Sabian of KARMA is interesting
"Santa Claus Furtively Filling Stockings Hanging In Front Of Fireplace"

He`s bringing a gift?

And Peluches mentioned the 0-2 Gemini-Sagittarius-axis specifically, so it makes sense I suppose.


And that KARMA trines its own ruler, Mercury, on 1 LIbra exact, which is conjunct Sun on 3 Libra and opposing HEPHAISTOS on 3 Aries himself. and sextile Jupiter on 3 Leo


So now what does that tell us?
First of all one cannot help but wonder about the number 3, right? I guess I do not have to elaborate on that though in terms of twinflames.

Also that Mercury-Sun being on SGC AND the Ariespoint. mucho importante!


Sabians?

Mercury
The Transmutation Of The Fruits Of Past Experiences Into The Seed-Realizations Of The Forever Creative Spirit


Sun
Around A Campfire A Group Of Young People Sit In Spiritual Communion


Jupiter
A Formally Dressed Elderly Man Stands Near Trophies He Brought Back From A Hunting Expedition


Is Hephaistos methaphorically speaking seeking out those possible twinsouls, to bring them back home again?

and of course Hephaistos on 3 Aries
Two Lovers Strolling On A Secluded Walk


And then I cannot help but notice how there are some "almost" solumate couple aspects (conjunctions), too far off each other on their own, but being bridged by a third planet. like a catalyst for bringing them together.

I mean Mars on the midpoint of Adonis/Ishtar, Pallas-Neptune (!) on the midpoint of Isis/Osiris.


Pluto-Proserpina is conjunct on their own though.

and an intriguing, yet baffling Venus-Uranus-conjunction in Scorpio.


There are two more conjunctions I want to point out as well.

VESTA on 23 Sag conjunct ATLANTIS on 22 Sag, which i find interesting especially in terms of what Edgar Cayce said about Atlantis and twinsouls.


I wonder if that is still close enough to squaring the nodal axis, so it consitutes a "skipped step". Not sure.

and of course the exact conjunction of SPIRIT and VALENTINE on 29 Leo, REGULUS

"An Unsealed Letter"


Judging from this discovery chart and the myth, he seems to be quite significant, and a key-element in unlocking the secrets (identity) of twinsouls, and instrumental in bringing them together.
Or do you see something differently here?

EDIT
Actually the VALENTINE-SPIRIT is conjunct BODA (wedding) on 28 Leo as well
"A Mermaid Emerges From The Ocean Waves Ready For Rebirth In Human Form"


and we have PTAH on 26 Sagittarius on GC, him being the God of reincarnation among other things, but he is not alone, he is bringing his consort Bast (or Ubasti) on 28 Sag to the party. lol


Anyway Ptah is actually the God in the Egyptian pantheon I would compare to Hephaistos in terms of his functions, as hew as also known as being responsible for handcraft.


however actually his function exceeds this as he was thought of as the "creator-God" who existed before anything else did, and thought the world into creation.


And he ends up on the Sabian here
"A Sculptor At His Work"

And then there is the Penelope - Ulysses/Odysseus thing. Not conjunct per se.

Penelope on 00 Libra
Ulysses on 06 Libra (well, 5°59)
Odysseus on 07 Libra.


However as you maybe remember, there was Sun on 3 Libra, and again, one important planet acting as a catalyst for a pairing to occur. I picked this one because of the long time they spent apart until they were reunited.

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posted October 10, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-Uranus conjunction in Scorpio! Wow. That's some powerful surgical ability, in terms of energy work/healing, with Uranus in Scorpio-makes perfect sense for Hephaistos, somehow--Uranus in Scorpio is totally a metal worker, in my mind, a smith, a spiritual welder... water is said to come from metal, in Chinese thought, and by some Western scientific minds also--and all wrapped up with the Goddess of Love. Wow.

"I mean Mars on the midpoint of Adonis/Ishtar, Pallas-Neptune (!) on the midpoint of Isis/Osiris."

Yes! Fascinating.

The Gemini connection... as well as Uranus (being referenced--here? --as 'the twin flame planet')--in the resilient no-nonsense survivor sign Scorpio... conjunct Venus.

I think you're really onto something, if I may!

I actually cried reading your post, same reaction when I first saw that Hephaistos was on my descendant. Ah it's happening again! What a sore spot! Beautiful!

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posted October 10, 2015 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pallas/Neptune is on my Sun/Moon midpoint (ok it is 14 Sag but still).

My Venus, 17° Libra, is right between Pluto-Proserpina (this falls in my 12th). And that Mars-Venus is conjunct my Pluto. Pluto-Venus d/w. Not surprised. I was seriously so affected reading his myth and finding him in my chart..

Gosh... I *love* synastry with discovery charts/asteroids <3.... I would love relationships with asteroids, with Venus in the 12th.... lol :P... ideal! Impossible! Perfect!

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posted October 10, 2015 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And he ends up on the Sabian here
"A Sculptor At His Work" ((( )))

And then there is the Penelope - Ulysses/Odysseus thing. Not conjunct per se.

Penelope on 00 Libra
Ulysses on 06 Libra (well, 5°59)
Odysseus on 07 Libra.


However as you maybe remember, there was Sun on 3 Libra, and again, one important planet acting as a catalyst for a pairing to occur. I picked this one because of the long time they spent apart until they were reunited. "


.... whoa.

You had a productive afternoon! Thank you!

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posted October 10, 2015 06:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to smile when I saw the Sabian of ISHTAR

"A Youth Carries A Lighted Candle In A Devotional Ritual"


After all it`s about her (in Sumeria) that we have the first written records about the Sacred-Marriage-Ritual, in which she (or her priestess) was the female participant. So it just makes sense.

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posted October 10, 2015 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^beautiful...

yes... with Pallas-Neptune he has the sight, he knows how to identify divine love intuitively, is expressly attuned to the higher vibration of love. So perceptive, a definite requirement for this occupation... Verrry strong third eye.

*in love with large flying stones*

His karma conjunct my Jupiter. Etc.

Anyway, I'm pretty silly. Thank you again for the real true awesomeness!

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posted October 10, 2015 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Is Hephaistos regularly used in twin flame/significant soul-relationship study?"
No,n ot so far. It`s a pretty unique approach Peluches suggested. Though it is very strongly connected with the myth as Plato told it.

After the splitting of the twinsouls into two, however, Hephaistos offered to reunite them (when they were ready for it) as Plato tells us:

"If Hephaestus, son of Zeus, were to ask the pair; 'do you desire to be wholly one, always day and night to be in one another's company? For if this is what you desire, I am ready to melt you into one and let you grow together, so that being two you shall become one, and after your death in the world beyond you will still be one departed soul instead of two - I ask whether this is what you lovingly desire?' "

While HEPHAISTOS might not be associated with the actual pairing, he might play a significant role in bringing them together (again).


I had never even studied Hephaistos before and had never checked it's placement in my charts, so I'm so glad you guys are researching it. It's been eye-opening for me.

In my Composite with T we have Hephaistos conj. MC 0° in first degree of Gemini.

Composite Midheaven 0°32' Gemini
Composite Hephaistos 0°44' Gemini

The aspects with the Hephaistos discovery chart are what really have me wanting to look into this further, though.

discovery chart Juno:
conj. my natal DC 0°
my NN 2°
T's IC 2°

discovery Sun:
conj. my natal Juno 1°

discovery Venus:
conj. T's natal Juno 0°

discovery NN and Eros:
conj. my Moon 0°

discovery Moon:
conj. T's Sun 2° on my Sun/Moon midpoint

With the Composite-
discovery chart Karma:
on comp. Midheaven and Hephaistos

discovery Moon:
conj. comp. chart ruler Mercury 0°

discovery Sun:
conj. comp. Pluto 1°

discovery Saturn:
conj. comp. AC 1°

There are others, but those are the ones that caught my eye first. It does feel like a 'missing link' to me.

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posted October 11, 2015 08:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WH,

I noticed that, too, connections to the disc. chart, partially of the natals, but even more interestingly from the composite.


Example

discovery Sun
- conjunct his n Karma exact and conj. my n MC by 2 degrees

- opposite our c-Eros/Psyche-mp exact, with discovery HEPHAISTOS conj. it exact

discovery Pluto
- conj. our c-Pluto

disc. Proserpina
conj. our c-NN-Amor-Cupido

disc. Venus-Uranus
-conj. our c-MC exact
- opposite our c-EROS-PRIAPUS

disc Psyche
- conj. our c-Valentine
- opposite our c-Juno-BML

disc-Pallas-Neptune
- conj. our c-Neptune-Sappho exact
- conjunct our c-Mercury

disc-Osiris
- conj. our c-Mercury-Neptune-Sappho

disc-Vesta
- conj our c-Sun widely 3 degrees
- conj our pr c-MC exact


disc-Juno
- conjunct his n Venus, and both natal LINKS
- conj. c-Moon-Link


disc-Jupiter
- conj. c-DESC

disc-Spirit-Val-Boda
- conj. c-DEstinn exact

disc-Eros-NN
- conj. his n DESC exact and my Draco DESC
- conj. his n Satrn-Vertex by 2 degrees

- square c-Sun exact

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posted March 22, 2016 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alegna:
There is very little mentioned o f asteroid porta coeli-3276- Yet i find it falls conjunct major points, far too ftequently than can be put down to coincidence, in the synastry of couples who likely are twin flames.

It means heavens gate. Maybe it's important


I used to think I had a soulmate, maybe even Twin Flame, but I never heard that term back when I knew him.

I have Porta Coeli exactly conjunct my sun at 15 Capricorn.

He has Porta Coeli exactly conjunct his draconic sun at 15 Aquarius.

My sun-moon midpoint @ 17 Aquarius.

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My husband has Porta Coeli tightly conjunct Jupiter.

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posted March 22, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if my ex-soulmate was my Twin Flame but recently I had another dream about him which felt so "Twin Flame"....I want to see how we fare with the asteroid litmus tests.

quote:
URANUS -- the twin flame planet.

- His Uranus, NN, and my name asteroid all @ 4 Scorpio.
- My Uranus @ 6 Scorpio, and I have his name asteroid @ 7 Aqua exactly on my rectified DSC.

quote:
ZEUS (5731) -- the one who split the humans.
APOLLO (1862) -- the one who sewed a few up.
HEPHAISTOS (2212) -- the one who offered to reunite them.
ISIS (42) -- Divine Feminine : most representative of the TF energies with her brother.
OSIRIS (1923) -- Divine Masculine.

To copy: 5731, 1862, 2212, 42, 1923

His Zeus at 16 Cap conjunct my sun.
His ISIS at 8 Leo conjunct my 7 Leo ASC.

His APOLL0 at 22 Virgo, more or less conjunct his own sun (no birth time) opposing my OSIRIS @ 21 Pisces

His HEPHAISTOS at 5 Gemini conjunct my 5 Gem POF and 7 Gem Psyche.
My HEPHAISTOS at 15 Aries conjunct my Jupiter and draconic Venus
His OSIRIS 18 Cancer trine my 18 Pisces moon
My APOLLO 15 Leo opposing his Porta Coeli

Composite yod, Hephaistos at apex on SN:
8.34 Taurus Jupiter
10.37 Taurus HEPHAISTOS
11.13 Libra Pluto
12.01 Sag Neptune
10.00 Scorpio Venus
12.07 Scorpio NN

quote:
SPIRIT (37452)
ALMA (390)
DNA (55555)
KAALI (4227)
SERPE (9968) -- referring to the Kundalini snake ; SERPE and KAALI would both indicate the eventual awakenings which tend to occur during TF reunions.

To copy: 37452, 390. 55555, 4227, 9968

His DNA @ 20 Pisces, widely conjunct my moon
His ALMA conjunct our Plutos and his Venus-Mars

My ALMA 24 Leo
His SPIRIT 24 Aries
His SERPE 26 Sag
--- grand fire trine
My SPIRIT 23 Aqua

Another composite yod:
14 Sag SERPE, conjunct Neptune
14 Aqua DNA
14 Leo Mars

Composite:
4 Sag KAALI
6 Sag Mercury
My Venus 6 Sag

quote:
VALENTINE

Never looked at his before...oh, it's @ 16 Pisces, conjunct my moon, sextile my sun

*facepalm*

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For the record, he was the one driving the soulmate conversation and saying we were one soul in two bodies. I felt that, too, but he was the one who always said it.

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Valentine on the ecclipse degree, very significant, Faith, no wonder you dream of him! Or astrally connect to him?

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How would you interpret this, Ceri?

We have Spirit conjunct PC at the SGC. Porta Coeli at the Super Galactic Centre seems fitting. Some nice Twin Flamy type aspects but we never got far with a relationship in this dimension.

Him
Jupiter 0.3
Porta Coeli 1°45
Bless 2°4'

Me
Bella 1.41
Spirit 2.23

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