posted June 25, 2015 04:03 PM            

With so many recent strides and updates made in the area of twin flame astrology (regardless of the flavour to which you subscribe) one thing seems to be echoing loudly and brightly above the rest: this research is in its infancy, we cannot prove with certainty or make absolute declarations based solely upon astrology, and what we do know is changing all of the time.

With that sort of an introduction, why undertake or contribute to this field at all? Like any science, we're bound to have a hypothesis (or a hundred) disproved in the lifetime of our research, and, once it's all said and done, made a small dent that can be considered legitimate progress. Fortunately, even the tiniest knick is genuinely helpful when considering the vastness of the subject. And we've made more than a few knicks -- namely, iQ, Ceridwen, LeeLoo, Vajra, myself, and, lately, Peluches has been undertaking her own research project. (Bonne, recherche, Peluches!)

The contributions of iQ and Ceridwen alone are nothing short of phenomenal. I must say, it'd be nowhere near it is without their tireless research. Much was achieved in the Twinflame Astrology thread (active from January to May 2014, at which point it was so large it was crashing!) and since then, there have been many revisions, changes, and new information discovered. This is what will be further investigated now as well as applied.

For the convenience of those new to this growing body of research (as well as the researchers ourselves), I've compiled that which was conducted during this busy time of revelation and enlightenment. Be assured, however -- there's far more on the horizon.

TWIN FLAME RESEARCH:

Twinflame Astrology: Techniques, Investigations, Validity: (Original Thread) (Reopened in IA)

GUARDIAN SOULMATE RESEARCH:

Twin Flame Astrology: Relationship Purpose and High-Level Soulmates
Guardian Soulships: The Missing Link in a Twin Flame Reunion?
Why a Guardian Soulship is like a Twin Flame simulation / defining it astrologically
The Guardian Soulmate // A Unique 'Twin Flame' Relationship
Is a Guardian Soul ACTUALLY a Grand 'Twin Flame Relationship Insurance Plan'?

posted June 27, 2015 03:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne :
(Bonne recherche, Peluches!)

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Thank you

So, a little update. I realised that I'd actually read about the different twin flame theories you'd mentioned earlier but had simply overlooked their names. So, yes, I do know about the Graduate Souls theory, and actually agree to a certain extent -- the idea of unevolved twin souls already reuniting seems a little unlikely for me, but I'm not entirely sure about other types.

Oh well. Either way, I'm starting the research with Plato's theory, as that's where it all stemmed from.

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In his dialogue The Symposium, Plato has Aristophanes, a comic playwright, present a story about soul mates. Aristophanes states that humans originally had four arms, four legs, and a single head made of two faces. He continues that there were three genders : man, woman and the "Androgynous". Each with two sets of genitalia with the Androgynous having both male and female genitalia. The men were children of the Sun, the women were children of the Earth and the Androgynous were children of the Moon, which was born of the Sun and Earth. It is said that humans had great strength at the time and threatened to conquer the gods. The gods were then faced with the prospect of destroying the humans with lightning as they had done with the Titans but then they would lose the tributes given to the gods by humans. Zeus developed a creative solution by splitting humans in half as punishment for humanity's pride and doubling the number of humans who would give tribute to the gods. These split humans were in utter misery to the point where they would not eat and would perish so Apollo had sewn them up and reconstituted their bodies with the navel being the only remnant harkening back to their original form. It is said that when the two find each other, there is an unspoken understanding of one another, that they feel unified and would lay with each other in unity and would know no greater joy than that.

The Symposium by Plato

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Like a few others, I personally think that the physical aspect of twin flames as described above was just a purely mythological way of presenting it ; I don't necessarily disagree with the rest however. Later in the text, we have the following :

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[...] and when one of them meets the other half, the actual half of himself, the pair are lost in an amazement of love and friendship and intimacy and one will not be out of the other's sight even for a moment...

If Hephaestus, son of Zeus, were to ask the pair : « Do you desire to be wholly one, always day and night to be in one another's company ? For if this is what you desire, I am ready to melt you into one and let you grow together, so that being two you shall become one, and after your death in the world beyond you will still be one departed soul instead of two -- I ask whether this is what you lovingly desire ? » -- and there is not a man or woman of them who, when they heard the proposal, would not acknowledge that this melting into one another, this becoming one instead of two, was the very expression of their ancient need. And the reason is that human nature was originally one and we were a whole, and the desire and pursuit of the whole is called love.

The Symposium by Plato

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... Beautiful.

ZEUS (5731) -- the one who split the humans.
APOLLO (1862) -- the one who sewed a few up.
HEPHAISTOS (2212) -- the one who offered to reunite them.

ISIS (42) -- Divine Feminine : most representative of the TF energies with her brother.
OSIRIS (1923) -- Divine Masculine.

URANUS -- the twin flame planet.

Feel free to try these out. Case n°1 following soon.

posted June 27, 2015 06:27 AM              

I know people say Uranus is sexless, but I rather think of him/ it as containing both, Yin and Yang, in a balanced way, (talking about an ideal here of course).

posted June 27, 2015 06:33 AM              

my natal
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Zeus 9°01 Pisces

Apollo 26°51 Libra

Hephaistos 28°07 Gemini

Isis 8°32 Cap
Osiris 7°50 Cap

Uranus 1°21 Scorpio

Apollo and Uranus while not conjunct each other are both more tightly connected to

posted June 27, 2015 04:21 PM            

Working with the following minor planets :

APOLLO (1862)
ZEUS (5731)
HEPHAISTOS (2212)

ISIS (42)
OSIRIS (1923)

SPIRIT (37452)
ALMA (390)
DNA (55555)

KAALI (4227)
SERPE (9968) -- referring to the Kundalini snake ; SERPE and KAALI would both indicate the eventual awakenings which tend to occur during TF reunions.

1862,5731,2212,42,1923,37452,390,55555,4227,9968
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NATALS, COMPOSITE AND TERTIARY PROGRESSIONS
(the older twin's natal progressed to the younger twin's birthdate)

- 0-2° of AQU/LEO and GEM/SAG prominent
- HEPHAISTOS often in Gemini (the twin sign) and sometimes aspecting NEPTUNE
- rulers of any intercepted signs, 3R, and 11R are very prominent and often involved in
- very tight or exact configurations involving at least three of the abovementioned asteroids + URANUS and/or SUN, MOON, S/M and ISIS/OSIRIS midpoints
- IC/MC Axis comes up very often and tightly conjunct 'TF astrobodies'
- 'TF astrobodies' falling on the SGC, GC or GA. (But you already knew that. )

I'm not so sure about this, but more ZEUS than APOLLO or HEPHAISTOS in the composite and synastry might indicate that the twins stay apart, and vice versa.

Also, it seems rather unfair for a Libran to make tertiary progressions for one partner and not the other. So, how about the opposite ? Tertiary regressions -- from the younger's natal to the older's.

posted June 27, 2015 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Because Uranus goes beyond the polarity of Yin and Yang. It`s both, an unification, a melting of Yin and Yang into one "embodiment/ ensoulment".

I know people say Uranus is sexless, but I rather think of him/ it as containing both, Yin and Yang, in a balanced way, (talking about an ideal here of course).

At least I was thinking this might be the thought process behind the Uranus-as-twinflame-planet.

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Also because Uranus is an outer planet, therefore representing all that which is "out there" and of a higher consciousness— contrary to Saturn, which represents boundaries, traditions, the old.

posted June 27, 2015 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Because Uranus goes beyond the polarity of Yin and Yang. It`s both, an unification, a melting of Yin and Yang into one "embodiment/ ensoulment".

I know people say Uranus is sexless, but I rather think of him/ it as containing both, Yin and Yang, in a balanced way, (talking about an ideal here of course).

At least I was thinking this might be the thought process behind the Uranus-as-twinflame-planet.

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Can I also add ...
Also that Uranus is the ruler of the natural 11th house ( Aquarius) and the 11th house rules true love.

My 11 th cusp is in Aquarius and Uranus is tight conjunction my DSC in Scorpio. Both were activated on day My TF came to see me.

posted June 27, 2015 06:14 PM            

Next, Sri Aurobindo and Mirra Alfassa.

The third is a friend of mine with his fiancée. They started off very badly and he used to confide in me because he was a very insecure person. I'm ... not exactly allowed to give their info, but I've got all the details of their relationship and I can guatantee it's a real TF one -- countless unbelievable synchronocities, the 11s, everything. TOBs accurate.

Sri Aurobindo and Mirra Alfassa

Michael

posted June 27, 2015 07:04 PM            

But Sri and Mirra? Absolutely. They're fascinating!

I suspect Marina Abramovic and Ulay, though it's not been confirmed. Logic tells me Neil Gaiman and Amanda Palmer, too.

posted June 28, 2015 12:47 PM            

I know there are zillions of threads on here stating what these aspects may be, however, I am interested in tested data, as is proposed here.
(Aside from iQ's calculator, which I have read/used)

And are asteroids always involved?

posted June 28, 2015 01:41 PM            

I have noticed psyche conj psyche, psyche conjunct union, psyche conjunct neptune, to feature in these charts.

There is very little mentioned o f asteroid porta coeli-3276- Yet i find it falls conjunct major points, far too ftequently than can be put down to coincidence, in the synastry of couples who likely are twin flames.

posted June 28, 2015 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Michael Jackson and Susan Elsa (her TOB unknown -- I found three different versions on the net which don't even match. Sigh.)

Next, Sri Aurobindo and Mirra Alfassa.

The third is a friend of mine with his fiancée. They started off very badly and he used to confide in me because he was a very insecure person. I'm ... not exactly allowed to give their info, but I've got all the details of their relationship and I can guatantee it's a real TF one -- countless unbelievable synchronocities, the 11s, everything. TOBs accurate.

Sri Aurobindo and Mirra Alfassa

Michael

Susan Elsa : 14 April 1982 in Zürich, Switzerland ; possible TOBs :
- 11:31 AM in Zürich
- 11:31 AM in Los Angeles, CA
- Something that puts her NN in 9H

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posted June 28, 2015 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm really sceptical of Susan Elsa. I always have been. She's always struck me as a 'pretender' essentially. Just a feeling I've always gotten from her.

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posted June 28, 2015 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by alegna:

There is very little mentioned o f asteroid porta coeli-3276- Yet i find it falls conjunct major points, far too ftequently than can be put down to coincidence, in the synastry of couples who likely are twin flames.

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posted June 28, 2015 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by alegna:
Maybe the best thing to do is to check out the synastry between long established couples, who have a high chance of being twin flames, or soul mates. The McCartneys, Ono and Lennon ect, and see which aspects between planets, points and asteroids , crop up most frequently.

I have noticed psyche conj psyche, psyche conjunct union, psyche conjunct neptune, to feature in these charts.

There is very little mentioned o f asteroid porta coeli-3276- Yet i find it falls conjunct major points, far too ftequently than can be put down to coincidence, in the synastry of couples who likely are twin flames.

It means heavens gate. Maybe it's important

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Alegna,

thank you for signposting me to porta coeli, I have never heard of this.

How have you seen it function in synastry?

posted June 28, 2015 03:18 PM            

Thanks for the moment of excitment , because by this point we all have had dissected our synastries to death.

posted June 28, 2015 03:55 PM            

We each have it parallel our VERTEX, which I find intriguing. Their mirror degrees might have special significance. I'll have to look into it.

Mine is conjunct my MOON; his is conjunct his MERC. They're 3º trine.

Our cPORTACOELI is conjunct cKARMA.