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ail221
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posted July 15, 2015 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Are those 5th harmonic aspects, or is one made of a nahtal conjunction?

If they are 5th harmonic aspects, is your Uranus on the Moon/Mercury-mp? If so, it is a midpoint-alignment resonating with the 5th harmonic. I think that makes for some highly creative solutions, at work, too.


Those are 5th harmonic aspects. Yes, Uranus is nested right in-between my Mercury/ASC-mp and Moon/Mercury-mp.

All of these are 5th harmonic aspects
Moon-Uranus
Moon-Vertex
Mercury-Uranus

Saturn-Juno
Uranus-Ceres
Pallas-Dsc

Mean Lilith-Pallas
Priapus-Pluto

Mercury-Asc wide
Venus-MC Wide

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posted July 15, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I suppose one is made of the natal conjunction and the other belonging to the quintile family?


Yes. Oddly, the tighter one is the quintile-derived aspect.

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posted July 15, 2015 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This tread made me take a close look at my 5H aspects with Apollo who you know can do weird things to me and I think this energy would describe my feelings best. Surprisingly, we lack interplanetary quintiles and biquintiles (there's a 1 deg quintile from his Pluto to my Jupiter, meh) but perhaps these things make up for it: his ASC biquintile my Moon and my ASC biquintile his Venus, my Mars quintile his NN, his Jupiter quintile my SN (7 min!), his Mercury quintile my SN, my Uranus quintile his Vertex. When it comes to asteroids, my Cupido quintile his Psyche, his Psyche biquintile my Neptune, his Pholus quintile my Sun, his first name asteroid quintile my Sun. We also have a weird quintile between our Chirons. All under 1. Btw, in my natal my first name asteroid is quintile his first name, I may be onto something


In our composite: Sun biquintile Jupiter 0, Venus biquintile Jupiter 1, Sun quintile Mars 1 and a peculiar and very tight biquintile between the Moon and Chiron, 1 minute.

I checked our harmonics and his Venus forms a yod with Neptune and Pluto and my ASC is conjunct his Venus since we have a biquintile in our synastry. It seems important. I think our composite will be interesting. Coming soon.

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posted July 15, 2015 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if there's a reason to get excited about it. The grand square involving the nodes is probably trying to say something though.

What seems most impressive is that Sun-Priapus is conjunct my Venus and Apollo-Sparks conjunct my Moon-MC.

Btw, I just realized my natal Child is conjunct his Mercury and Mars. How am I supposed to not react to him like an excited kid?

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posted July 15, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
GK,

do you have natal NN at 6 Taurus?


No I am sorry. I have a lame 6th house nNN @13°19´´ in Sagittarus. I am old

I really do like the 5thH and will think about my Saturn opp. Mercury tomorrow. Saturn has no ptolemaicaspect in my natal and I find it interesting that exactly this aspect pops up here.

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Ceridwen
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posted July 15, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well NN at 6 Taurus would have been ONE possibility to result in a 5th harm NN on 00 Libra. 13 sag seems tobe another one. lol btw mine is at 10 Sag, so I am older. At least 2 weeks!

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posted July 16, 2015 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K. I will try.
n5 th house= creative spark = ruled by ☿= ACruler
5 thharmonic =
♄☍☿ orb 2°=decile in the natal = creative manifestation
The first thing that popped up in my head: teacher! Unfortunately I tried to become a teacher three times in this life and my life managed to turn the attempts down.
My writing skills are on a vacation. That would have been my other non-trained skill that I know.
Have you better thoughts on this aspect?

Other aspects:
♆□♂ orb 2°20th harmonic aspect
Obsessive behavior? Nooooooo! I am protected by Neptune.

☽△♅ orb4°= 15th harmonic aspect =out of orb

♄☌☊ orb 1°= biquintile
I read yours.

♀ ☌☽ orb 4°= biquintile
Mmmmh? I am a lovely person?

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Aubyanne
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posted July 16, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love the astro font, GeminiKarat.

Which one is it, and where did you acquire it?

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posted July 17, 2015 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Love the astro font, GeminiKarat.

Which one is it, and where did you acquire it?



I have it from Lindaland .
I copy and paste them.

Planets:
☉☼










Aspects:




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posted July 17, 2015 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You see what I mean?


in the 5th harmonic chart

Mozart had the

Sun-Mars-(Mercury)
opposing
Jupiter-Uranus

on the ASC (and NN).

Mr Sag has

Sun-Moon
opposing
Mars-Jupiter-Uranus

on the MC-IC-axis


Mozart! Oh, yes, that's the energy of the Quintile, so lovely!
I need to find some time to post mine as well, we probably did it before; but I am an artist too, so it could be interesting.

I'm a Moon quintile Uranus btw...I think this makes my Moon closer to yours in a quintile style way: the quirky, weird lol but creative part of an Aqua Moon

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posted July 17, 2015 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if you have your 5th harmonic Sun in the same sign and degree as your natal NN? (But a natal Sun/SN biquintile? )

In synastry, could you also compare the 5th harmonic placements of one with the natal placements of the other?

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posted July 17, 2015 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is me

Looking at this chart of mine makes me anxious... attack of FOMO basically, feeling like I have all this talent (yes I'm very humble about it too)... and I'm not using it to its full potential... gotta step it up... But really my best talent is just relaxing and understanding we are all one, there is nothing to strive for, because it always was and always will be one uninterrupted shining, like the sun. All I need to do is radiate and Be. Right?

How do you folks deal with this kind of worry? I dunno. sounds like a pretty silly problem to have I guess but it sure goes deep, that worry that I'm not fully using the gifts I've been given in this lifetime.

Re: synastry

Given the loner sun it's interesting that my natal sun is quintile Mr. Virgo's.... hmmm...

I also <3 LeeLoo's favorite description of quintiles!

I'm also super interested to see Mozart's 5th harmonic! harmony!

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posted July 17, 2015 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wondering why my Saturn is at 0 cap both natally and in 5th harmonic also?

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posted July 17, 2015 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also noticing my ascendant on the 5th harmonic is conjunct my natal north node. embodying the presence of my 5th harmonic will mean fulfilling that pisces north node... makes sense...

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posted July 17, 2015 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I have it from Lindaland .
I copy and paste them.

Oh, Lord have mercy; I don't have the patience for that! Perhaps I'll save them to a doc for later, in case I'm feeling bold. Thanks!

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posted July 17, 2015 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yungang,

Don't forget you're a 'yung'en' still with quite a lot to hash, learn, unlearn, relearn, sort, re-sort, and finally do. If I worried I wasn't living up to my full potential at 26, I'd've driven myself bonkers by 30.

We all truly blossom in our own time, and no one can say what that time is but ourselves.

I'm kinda digging my MADHATTER-MOON, and his ALICE-DESTINN-AMOR-EROS. Wow! No clue that was a quintile in mine -- and several in his.

I'm going to be 35; he's pushing 50. We're just now really truly stepping out into the spotlight. There's nothing wrong with that. No time lost. In fact, the time just happens to NOW be most right. And we're about to utilise it to its maximum potential, from what it seems going off of the H5 charts.

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posted July 18, 2015 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Aubyanne... Yes, I'll chill out

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posted July 18, 2015 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if 5th harmonic would relate to creating humans/child birth?
If your going to procreate with another to create life would there be aspects in these charts synastry to show that?
Along with that is that one of the 5th house's focus is on creating life/childbirth.

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posted July 18, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I'm wondering if 5th harmonic would relate to creating humans/child birth?
If your going to procreate with another to create life would there be aspects in these charts synastry to show that?
Along with that is that one of the 5th house's focus is on creating life/childbirth.

God, I hope not!

But it could be creation of ANY kind. He and I have already created and 'brought into the world' several works of art in various media. I wonder, if in our H5, and the quintile series, we might gain insight into what and how we would create.

For example, my MOON-MADHATTER. Does this denote my creating a character which very well might revolutionise the television drama? Or just the fact that he's a Hatter figure? ... Or specifically that I'm pioneering quantum storytelling by creating a multidimensional dramatic series?

The ALICE-DESTINN-AMOR-EROS is pretty crazy, too. (Not that it'd matter, but it's intriguing it's all in late-Aries, which are BIG in his tropical and our synastry in both tropical, sidereal AND Draco.)

He's of course got his MADHATTER-VALENTINE, and an ALICE-CUPIDO. Those both intrigue me.

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posted July 18, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I'm wondering if 5th harmonic would relate to creating humans/child birth?
If your going to procreate with another to create life would there be aspects in these charts synastry to show that?
Along with that is that one of the 5th house's focus is on creating life/childbirth.


I like this point of view.

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posted July 18, 2015 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I like this point of view.

Perhaps, if that's your goal, but hardly THE meaning of the quintile family or H5.

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posted July 18, 2015 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For example, my MOON-MADHATTER. Does this denote my creating a character which very well might revolutionise the television drama? Or just the fact that he's a Hatter figure? ... Or specifically that I'm pioneering quantum storytelling by creating a multidimensional dramatic series?

Ooooo... I wanna play too! Just found out asteroid Actor is on my MC Eh? Eh?

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posted July 18, 2015 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 5th is about creation, so yes, it could be about creating new life in the form of a child, but it is not limited to that interpretation and manifestation.

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posted July 18, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Perhaps, if that's your goal, but hardly THE meaning of the quintile family or H5.

I have children. I prefer to manifest other meanings of the 5H.

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posted July 18, 2015 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I like this point of view.


I was married twice...had babies with both. I cannot believe all the tight aspects we have with Jupiter/Uranus/Pluto/Venus and asteroids Child/Kida....creating a human life is creation at it finest.
I do believe this chart could show potential between 2 people to bring to life a child, it is a creation chart and there is no higher form of creation. But I do need to investigate it more throughly.

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