posted July 20, 2015 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Your an idiot, in general! To say what you said and then give this as your response...your a stupid idiot who knows nothing about a higher purpose an has no strength at all because you think saying rude things to other ppl is the way to prove something! I'm sorry but all you have done is proved your inferiority to others. Proved your a less quality human being than most because most don't turn to such immature, juvenile and stupid tactics! I could care less what you think about me or anyone because you've proven yourself up be a worthless, unenlightened and like I said stupid person.

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If this is what you call enlightenment then I don't want to be in your club.

posted July 20, 2015 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
If this is what you call enlightenment then I don't want to be in your club.

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posted July 20, 2015 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Whooooooa.

Gabby, Anomalia -- both of you to your corners, now. We're going to approach this calmly and logically.

I understand both of your points. I think this whole unintentional wound reopening could have been prevented with the inclusion of subjectivity at the outset. Starting a sentence or thought with 'I believe' is practically magical in its diplomatic ability.

We must all always remember that our perceptions are all that guide us, regardless of how we interpret their doing so. Blanket statements can offend, or at the very least, annoy, anyone with the potential to have greater stake in the subject's content. When we invest emotionally, we have the means to be hurt. It doesn't matter who does the harm, or how.

Anomalia, that's a sensitive subject. I understand what you were intending to get across; you could have done so with gentility rather than an effort to provoke. Please be considerate in your approach. If you're intending to say that someone is being myopic or domineering in their opinion (asserting it as fact) please do so compassionately.

Gabby, you need to take some time to cool down so that you can reasses the situation with a clear head. Then you'll need to apologise to Anomalia for resorting to ad hominem attacks in an effort to invalidate her argument -- and her. I know you'll see that in time, given the inherent fairness and justice embodied by VENUS (or anything) in Libra.

Ceri, feel free to amend or addend as needed.

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posted July 20, 2015 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't belong to the childish tantrum club.

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posted July 20, 2015 01:04 PM            

Stop and reflect upon that for a moment. You BOTH have a point, and you BOTH deserve to be heard.

You're both intelligent and enlightened individuals -- or you wouldn't be here. You've both contributed mightily to various discussions and proved yourself assets to this community.

posted July 20, 2015 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
What if The Universe has spoken through me to help you improve your perception of existence?

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posted July 20, 2015 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: It's up to each individual to define their life purpose, assuming they're smart enough to realize the power they have over their existence, strong enough to claim it and they have the need for purpose in the first place.

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posted July 20, 2015 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Congrat with embracing our most recent cult clan auntie sis. hehe

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Please explain to me how is what you said could be helping me in any way at all?

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posted July 20, 2015 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
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[b] Congrat with embracing our most recent cult clan auntie sis. hehe

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Please explain to me how is what you said could be helping me in any way at all?

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If you had any idea what your talking about or knew what it means to be in a cult, maybe you'd have enough respect to refrain from using that as a way to get at ppl or insult them. I hope with all my heart that you or anyone you love never go through the experiences that ppl go through who have been in cults.
When I think about it, i'm actually happy you can be so cavalier about this topic that you can use it as an insult..... because that means you've never experienced the pain or watched ppl you love kill themselves due to the pain of being in a cult and not having the strength to escape.

posted July 20, 2015 01:58 PM            

As AuntAnomalia has said, she could indeed be a conduit of the universe, asking you to look at this issue again. Maybe you really do have some deep pain associated with cults... Maybe she didn't know that; maybe on some level she did... Whether it was intended to cause you harm, whether it was a silly thing to say or not, you may take from it what you will, because you do have agency with your own emotions, though they're roiling within you...

I certainly see how you could take great offense to her statement, and choose to write it off as rude, uncalled-for, etc. but to some extent we do have the option of examining our own reactions, seeing how when we're deeply insulted it can sometimes point to resistance within our own psyches, forgive the other and focus on integrating the experience for ourselves...

AuntAnomalia, if you think you might be here to help Gabby on some level, perhaps acknowledging quite clearly that you did cause pain and that the pain you caused was not intended to hurt, ultimately, would be beneficial (if that's the case, which I suspect). Your statement did come out of left field, and now Gabby is experiencing the repurcussions of it.

posted July 20, 2015 02:00 PM            

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When I think about it, i'm actually happy you can be so cavalier about this topic that you can use it as an insult..... because that means you've never experienced the pain or watched ppl you love kill themselves due to the pain of being in a cult and not having the strength to escape.

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posted July 20, 2015 02:06 PM            

Anomalia: please respect Gabby's sensitivity to the subject and respond accordingly.

Gabby: please understand that all are not aware of our private business and can stumble blithely into and trample upon our wounds.

posted July 20, 2015 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
This discussion is going to continue with respect and dignity, or return -- with equal consideration -- to the subject of the 5th Harmonic and the quintile family.

Anomalia: please respect Gabby's sensitivity to the subject and respond accordingly.

Gabby: please understand that all are not aware of our private business and can stumble blithely into and trample upon our wounds.

But the both of you need to let this go, apologise to each other, and move beyond it.

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posted July 20, 2015 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I've said my peace!

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posted July 20, 2015 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Heh. 'Peace'. I like that.

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posted July 20, 2015 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Libra ruled, of course it'd be my 'peace' lol
Mars/Aries ruled would be 'piece'

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posted July 20, 2015 05:15 PM            

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If you had any idea what your talking about or knew what it means to be in a cult, maybe you'd have enough respect to refrain from using that as a way to get at ppl or insult them. I hope with all my heart that you or anyone you love never go through the experiences that ppl go through who have been in cults.
When I think about it, i'm actually happy you can be so cavalier about this topic that you can use it as an insult..... because that means you've never experienced the pain or watched ppl you love kill themselves due to the pain of being in a cult and not having the strength to escape.

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First of all, what people call religions are cults to me too. I don't care how popular and socially acceptable something is, it's the same category in my book. What differrentiates these movements is the degree of delusion and insanity.

There are also phenomena like: cult of money, cult of marriage, cult of motherhood, etc. You seem to belong to the cults of reproduction and "Earth is our school and we can't miss our classes". According to you making babies is our default highest purpose while we're here. I say - speak for yourself. No, I say - think about what you believe in again and how you arrived at it. "Enlightened" books, articles and lectures maybe? Being socially conditioned from the very beginning to think that without having children life has no point, that there's no "truer love" than the maternal one, that raising children makes one a better person? Yes, it's true that if literally everyone stopped reproducing and this shift was permanent, eventually a human form would cease to exist and spirits wouldn't be able to experience this planet through it. But is it inherently wrong? If we insist on a rich experience which would require a sophisticated life form, we could inhabit the extraterrestrial civilizations I believe in and I know you too. Why must we act like special snowflakes? Then, what if this dimension isn't the only nor best place time to learn? Most importantly, what if our presence here or wherever isn't even about learning some lessons, bettering our souls, striving for some ultimate goal, personal or collective, but about experiencing through our unique, individualized consciousness, our one of the kind point of view, our ASC glasses, and hopefully enjoying our existence? What if we enrich the Source which I believe our essence is made of and more or less connected to just by being and doing whatever we want? By manifesting our will? (which would be in some way Its will)(I must admit though like to think and I hope that it prefers benevolent actions) What if there's no destination and there's movement only? What if anything that exists beyond the realm of The Golden Ocean (one of the ways I imagine It) only has a function and this function is providing It diverse experiences which expand Its power of understanding and are probably somewhat entertaining and it happens mainly through us, Its drops thrown around the creation, the ultimate drama played on multiple stages or playgrounds, if you prefer, with lots of painful traps for some reason, at least in this co called physical world (and I wonder why it must be so). Why can't our souls be good the way they are? If you too think each of us carries a spark of the one who initiated all of this, do you think this entity is defective in some way and needs to learn the lesson?
Damn, what if everything is "god"? Getting deeper into this scenario can overheat my internal computer but I can't reject this possibility.

I don't have everything figured, my perception of the the whole creation is under constant development (it can't not to be since I'm on the quest for understanding how the things work) but I can sign myself over this:
In the beginning there was Force. And one non-linear day for some reason It screamed "action!"

The rest is my interperation of the information and experience I gather. Trying to make sense out of it rationally. Attempts at connecting the dots. Theorizing. But at least I try to think for myself. I encourage you to do the same and let others do it. Especially when it comes to ideas as profound and personal as life purpose.

Let's get back to the human thing. I suppose you like being a human and living here. Alright, you're entitled to it. But no matter how rabidly people reproduce, our extinction is just a matter of time. We will destroy ourselves/be destroyed by nature, the local or cosmic one/be destroyed by malicious aliens/be consumed by the expanding Sun. Even if we manage to escape and continue our existence on other planet(s), sooner or later **** will hit the fan and another evacuation will be necessary. Species die out. Stars die. Galaxies collide. This whole universe is likely to become at least unhabitable at some point in time. This wheel won't spin forever. Is it really worth to be that attached to this place and this current form?

Promoting having children as the pinnacle of life, especially when it comes to biological children, is not only silly but also dangerous. There are people who don't want to, shouldn't have children or both. There are people who aren't in the right place emotionally/financially and they could never get there. If someone really cares about the wellbeing of children, they don't want these people to have them! There are people who are incapable of impregnating or getting pregnant. Let's not make them feel like they're losers, let's not drive them into a destructive obsession with in-vitro. There are already existing kids out there who would love to be taken under their wing. Then we have overpopulation and human recklessness which result in pollution, accelerated general extinction and shrinking recources. If someone has common sense and cares about the world around them, they don't expect everyone to reproduce. Quite the opposite. Finally, I can't unnotice how egoistically driven this whole children thing is the majority of cases. There will be no applause from me.

I wasn't trying to insult you, I simply noticed flashes of what I'd call cult mentality and dared to point it out which, believe it or not, didn't bring me pleasure. I recalled that you dealt with some cult in the past but something told me I should make my point forcefully (blame it on my cold mind if it makes you feel better). Sorry it had to hurt. Apologies accepted if they're still valid.

I hope this was comprehendible. I wasn't trying to sound complicated. If you want to continue you should make a separate spread for that, I don't want to further derail this one.

posted July 20, 2015 06:50 PM            

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Why do we all want sex so much? Why is it a core desire, a need, something we lust after?

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Btw, at what degree is your Sun?

posted July 20, 2015 07:16 PM            

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[QUOTE]Why do we all want sex so much? Why is it a core desire, a need, something we lust after?

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posted July 20, 2015 07:19 PM            

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Conjunct my IC Is your Mercury in Sagittarius too?

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