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Topic: Eclectic synastry - a different look at your aspects
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 09:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline:
When you are bored could you please ask 1) how my Sun and asc that trine R's Saturn in Scorpio plays out 2) or and how my chart ruler moon plays out in opp his pluto in scorpio
*push* or my vertex in scorpio in 4h is opposite R's node in taurus (don't know the houses) IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 1272 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted August 10, 2015 09:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: i got queen of wands, 9 of pentacles and temperance. It seems that makes you adorable for him. He finds you exciting and sexy (queen of wands) and adorable (9 of pentacles and temperance). The pentacles provides a bit stability (uranus in serious capricorn).So i don't think this aspect causes any stress facing these cards
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 09:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: i got queen of wands, 9 of pentacles and temperance. It seems that makes you adorable for him. He finds you exciting and sexy (queen of wands) and adorable (9 of pentacles and temperance). The pentacles provides a bit stability (uranus in serious capricorn).So i don't think this aspect causes any stress facing these cards
I think it may also mean stimulating independence in each other (Temperance). Both QoWands and 9 of pents are independency cards. It is stimulating, but pleasant as well. Also, at least one of you is inaccessible to the other (9 of pentacles). Perhaps there is a story of two women as well. The cards I got for you are even more impressive: and guess what? Temperance on Hierophant. I think Uranus may be in love, deep, deep, even obsessive while Venus in Cancer (ace of cups + 4 of cups) doesn't consider this possibility, for reasons related to "the right thing to do", age or other commitments (marriage). So the feelings are sublimated (Temperance). The aspect is kept in check. There is a theme of Sinner vs Saint here, and balancing those. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala Summer Readings IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 09:28 AM
I am doing one of your aspects now, Enneline I don't have much time, perhaps I can come back later, for more If anyone wants to take a shot at my aspects, here is the next batch: 1) Moon square Moon - let's see what this famous aspect is about. Fixity here! Moon in Scorpio mmmmmmmmmmmmmm(2nd) sq Moon in Leo roooaarr 7th 2. Then a complex structure: the Kite between: his Sun (Pisces) trine his Moon (Scorpio) and my Saturn (Cancer) on my DSC; Kite apex on my ASC (his Sun/Moon mdp exact) ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala Summer Readings IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 09:55 AM
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 10:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I am doing one of your aspects now, Enneline I don't have much time, perhaps I can come back later, for more If anyone wants to take a shot at my aspects, here is the next batch: 1) Moon square Moon - let's see what this famous aspect is about. Fixity here! Moon in Scorpio mmmmmmmmmmmmmm(2nd) sq Moon in Leo roooaarr 7th
oh no, you need to come back later...please for 1 i got) king of swords 8 of wands queen of wands knight of cups 10 of swords well, they say that the king of swords is libra i can't believe that. Rather 20 deg taurus to 20 deg gemini then we have 8 of wands (8h house and/or sagittarius) then we have the queen of wands in the middle, a leo woman , then we have the knight of cups, a pisces man then the 10 of swords, a gemini sign.
So how shall we read it? His mars in gemini (knight of swords) + his scorpio moon (8 of wands) wants to approach (8 of wands are targeting) the leo woman (you with your moon in leo) and the approach makes him fall in love (knight of cups, and his sun) and activates his mars (10 of swords) It is interesting that his mars sign gemini appears here more than 1 time and so does his sun sign both of your moons. And you with your leo moon is in the middle I felt that the spread shows that he was very very stimulated by your squaring moons. Does his mars & sun receives aspects by your moon?
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 10:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: oh no, you need to come back later...please for 1 i got) king of swords 8 of wands queen of wands knight of cups 10 of swords well, they say that the king of swords is libra i can't believe that. Rather 20 deg taurus to 20 deg gemini then we have 8 of wands (8h house and/or sagittarius) then we have the queen of wands in the middle, a leo woman , then we have the knight of cups, a pisces man then the 10 of swords, a gemini sign.
So how shall we read it? His mars in gemini (knight of swords) + his scorpio moon (8 of wands) wants to approach (8 of wands are targeting) the leo woman (you with your moon in leo) and the approach makes him fall in love (knight of cups, and his sun) and activates his mars (10 of swords) It is interesting that his mars sign gemini appears here more than 1 time and so does his sun sign both of your moons. And you with your leo moon is in the middle I felt that the spread shows that he was very very stimulated by your squaring moons. Does his mars & sun receives aspects by your moon?
Wow it looks very intense, very melodramatic. Quite passionate though. To be honest, I think 10 of sw means: Scorpio Moon here (because of its connection with Death - Scorpio). Also, possibly the King is the one who compromises in this square (King + 10 of sw, and Leo Moon as central card) which makes sense because he is a Pisces (Knight of Cups) i can see here the Scorpio Moon trying to possess, flank the Leo, give it the final blow but eventually, giving in. but what you say about gemini is very interesting, it's a very attractive aspect in our synastry, for both of us, this square. It also happens on my angles (exact) and it opposes My Lilith conj his Juno (exact). but what happens after the King surrenders? any card after 10 of sw, please? Yes, we have Sun sextile Moon and a minor between his Mars and my Sun (squine) and a wide Sun opp Mars on the other side. BTW, I can stay a little bit more, and do all your aspects, perhaps
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 10:23 AM
It could also mean this aspect is a killer in our synastry, but honestly, it's a favorite for both of us. So I take it 10 of sw is a connection to Death (Scorpio) It is very intense and melodramatic though, that's true.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 10:26 AM
It's also interesting to consider that the King of Swords represents the force of reason while 10 of Swords means being unreasonable. I'd love to see an additional card on it, though to see what it leads to. IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 10:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Wow it looks very intense, very melodramatic. Quite passionate though. To be honest, I think 10 of sw means: Scorpio Moon here (because of its connection with Death - Scorpio). Also, possibly the King is the one who compromises in this square (King + 10 of sw, and Leo Moon as central card) which makes sense because he is a Pisces (Knight of Cups) i can see here the Scorpio Moon trying to possess, flank the Leo, give it the final blow but eventually, giving in.but what you say about gemini is very interesting, it's a very attractive aspect in our synastry, for both of us, this square. It also happens on my angles (exact) and it opposes My Lilith conj his Juno (exact). but what happens after the King surrenders? any card after 10 of sw, please? Yes, we have Sun sextile Moon and a minor between his Mars and my Sun (squine) and a wide Sun opp Mars on the other side. BTW, I can stay a little bit more, and do all your aspects, perhaps
Yes, i'd rather take the 10 of swords as something scorpionic than something in gemini Hahaha...he wants to possess the leo woman but falls in love and gives in hahaha I just asked what card follows after the 10 of swords: king of swords again! He is still alive! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 10:37 AM
it doesn't make too much sense, I took his sword I have to think about it...King of sw doesn't make too much sense, with this aspect. Unless it means war. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 10:40 AM
I think I know what it means...this King stands for bargaining and finding a solution through clarity and reason. He is also the Butterfly King, a transformative fellow (Scorpio). You kill him, he pops back up I like this spread, emotions run high (8 of wands Knight of Cups), but so is melodrama ugh. IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 10:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: it doesn't make too much sense, I took his sword I have to think about it...King of sw doesn't make too much sense, with this aspect. Unless it means war.
I had the feeling when just having pulled that card: "end of the spread". It starts with the king of swords and it ends with the king of swords, resp. the king of swords is the start and the 10 of swords are the end and so the 2nd king appears like a circle. Do you get me? I think that that aspects shows a lot of passionate drama but how important is the moon for the 2 of you? Do you guys have signifiant cancer placements?
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 10:55 AM
Well, obviously very important, any Moon Moon aspect is very important, it is felt intensely, it gives the most intense relationships, in general, when you have a direct Moon to Moon aspect. Also, his Moon, MC ruler, conj my MC (0). My Moon one of my DSC rulers, my DSC is in Cancer. Actually, I have a cross here, as I said, and he is sitting on it. Scorpio Moon is a common and favorite placement of mine, my sister has it, my father had it, and close friends, the most loyal, have it. It's very familiar energy; it is passionate and intense, but it suits me...maybe King of sw 10 of sw stands for loyalty (until the end)Anyway, my spread for this square brought ONLY majors, and they almost fell in block, when drawing the second card Justice Sun Strength Temperance Hierophant Moon on Strength Strength represents Leo, so the Leo Moon and Moon and Death stand for Scorpio Moon Sun Temperance could show harmony through our Suns, and Justice Hierophant, through our Libra, Saturn and Jupiter natal aspects and synastry aspects. The Moons seem to behave like a conjunction, based on this spread. IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 11:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Well, obviously very important, any Moon Moon aspect is very important, it is felt intensely, it gives the most intense relationships, in general, when you have a direct Moon to Moon aspect. Also, his Moon, MC ruler, conj my MC (0). My Moon one of my DSC rulers, my DSC is in Cancer. Actually, I have a cross here, as I said, and he is sitting on it. Scorpio Moon is a common and favorite placement of mine, my sister has it, my father had it, and close friends, the most loyal, have it. It's very familiar energy; it is passionate and intense, but it suits me...maybe King of sw 10 of sw stands for loyalty (until the end)Anyway, my spread for this square brought ONLY majors, and they almost fell in block, when drawing the second card Justice Sun Strength Temperance Hierophant Moon on Strength Strength represents Leo, so the Leo Moon and Moon and Death stand for Scorpio Moon Sun Temperance could show harmony through our Suns, and Justice Hierophant, through our Libra, Saturn and Jupiter natal aspects and synastry aspects. The Moons seem to behave like a conjunction, based on this spread.
ah okay, but let's take your spread and disregard mine. You spread shows far more harmony than my passionate drama spread
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 11:03 AM
Your Sun trine Saturn with R is this:7 of wands 3 of Cups 6 of Pentacles Justice 6 of Wands It looks like a very positive aspect for your synastry, creating protection from his side, the need to protect you with 6 of wands as well, the desire for balance; it is also karmic (with Justice); it makes you a bit defensive maybe, or one of you, but it also shows long-termness. It brings friendship and happy times together, feeling like a soul family (3 of Cups + Justice). It makes you help each other and support each other. It has a very positive vibe to me. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 11:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: ah okay, but let's take your spread and disregard mine. You spread shows far more harmony than my passionate drama spread
I am curious, if you ask if this sq is a positive aspect for our relationship, what cards do you get? IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 11:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Your Sun trine Saturn with R is this:7 of wands 3 of Cups 6 of Pentacles Justice 6 of Wands It looks like a very positive aspect for your synastry, creating protection from his side, the need to protect you with 6 of wands as well, the desire for balance; it is also karmic (with Justice); it makes you a bit defensive maybe, or one of you, but it also shows long-termness. It brings friendship and happy times together, feeling like a soul family (3 of Cups + Justice). It makes you help each other and support each other. It has a very positive vibe to me.
oh yes, he does protect me. but his saturn does also trine my asc. Does this have the same effect? doing your question now
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I am curious, if you ask if this sq is a positive aspect for our relationship, what cards do you get?
7 of pentacles 5 of pents (clarifier: devil) page of cups -> yes, looks like hard work on the relationship but going together through rough times, feelings of sexual energies, and the page of cups is simply lovely. Always courting and caring...logically since your moons are involved IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 11:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: oh yes, he does protect me. but his saturn does also trine my asc. Does this have the same effect?doing your question now
I think it makes him even more protective Ok, Moon opp Pluto with R Ace of Wands (6 of cups) 4 of pentacles Death King of pentacles 10 of Swords (5 of Wands) see, it is interesting how death and 10 of sw come up with scorpio energy. Ok I think it turns him on ( but there is also this emotional connection, it is a life or death... omg, now I realize what it could mean, this 10 of sw! the "life or death" stuff we were talking about so back to your spread...it gives a life or death feeling. H gets verrrrrrrrrrrry possessive and jealous about it...three jealousy and possessiveness cards in the middle, and then we have the 5 of wands....having competitors, rivals, "kills" him so to speak. So he definitely is extremely jealous with you. is it a positive aspect, leading to positive results? death 8 of cups 7 of cups ace of wands it is obsessive and very scorpionic (death) but it is also very exciting and thrilling and sexual (ace of wands) IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 11:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: 7 of pentacles 5 of pents (clarifier: devil) page of cups -> yes, looks like hard work on the relationship but going together through rough times, feelings of sexual energies, and the page of cups is simply lovely. Always courting and caring...logically since your moons are involved
Not bad 5 of pents + devil usually means an unbreakable bond, pluto relationships where you can't leave the person. and obsession, feeling devastated without them. another Pluto card, the devil. reward? (7 of pentacles) + page of cups...reconciliation + renewal. I like it To be honest, I have this aspect with many people, not that exact, and it has never been a problem, apart from the proverbial insane jealousy and possessiveness and suspicion of a Scorpio Moon which sometimes can drive a Leo Moon crazy. But it can be very romantic, as your spread shows. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 11:24 AM
I already noticed with this thread that the cards that come up are mostly those corresponding to the zodiacal sign or house of the planets in aspect, isn't this interesting? They come up like clockwork! So Strength came up for my Leo Moon and it mostly symbolizes this - the Leo placement, rather what the actual card means ( although, with this sq, there is a lot of Lust) and then Moon or Death or Devil or 10 of sw for Scorpio or Pluto and cups cards for Pisces or Cancer.IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 11:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Not bad 5 of pents + devil usually means an unbreakable bond, pluto relationships where you can't leave the person. and obsession, feeling devastated without them. another Pluto card, the devil. reward? (7 of pentacles) + page of cups...reconciliation + renewal. I like it To be honest, I have this aspect with many people, not that exact, and it has never been a problem, apart from the proverbial insane jealousy and possessiveness and suspicion of a Scorpio Moon which sometimes can drive a Leo Moon crazy. But it can be very romantic, as your spread shows. :0
yes the 5 of pentacles seemed to be very very bonding for me. I don't think that moon sq moon would be an ultimate dealbreaker. You love a bit of drama with your leo moon and he as well with his scorpio moon also, paul & linda mccartney had that aspect and did have a great marriage
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 3386 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 10, 2015 11:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I think it makes him even more protective Ok, Moon opp Pluto with R Ace of Wands (6 of cups) 4 of pentacles Death King of pentacles 10 of Swords (5 of Wands) see, it is interesting how death and 10 of sw come up with scorpio energy. Ok I think it turns him on ( but there is also this emotional connection, it is a life or death... omg, now I realize what it could mean, this 10 of sw! the "life or death" stuff we were talking about so back to your spread...it gives a life or death feeling. H gets verrrrrrrrrrrry possessive and jealous about it...three jealousy and possessiveness cards in the middle, and then we have the 5 of wands....having competitors, rivals, "kills" him so to speak. So he definitely is extremely jealous with you. is it a positive aspect, leading to positive results? death 8 of cups 7 of cups ace of wands it is obsessive and very scorpionic (death) but it is also very exciting and thrilling and sexual (ace of wands)
wow, thank you, i always thought i am the obsessive since it is my moon (you know my chart ruler ) but i realized that i hardly become jealous when it comes to him but he would get bitchy. Thank you anyways more questions please
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 14718 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 11:37 AM
I know, I don't have a problem with it, still your spread is quite mysterious we shall see when doing many Scorpio/Pluto spreads if 10 of sw comes up as Scorpio, as I suspect. We feel everything in sync and we are both possessive and jealous and exclusive, to be honest. The only problem comes up when this is excessive, which happens with a Sc Moon...you have no idea how they can be... you go buy some milk and they got scared and depressed you will meet someone and flirt with them or someone will steal you away I mean it! It's a serious issue! but this is a general problem for them. IP: Logged | |