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FmVenusWLove
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posted August 18, 2015 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found an old thread on this in the Astrology section and thought I'd try to get a new conversation started over on this side of the forum (since it's more of an IA question anyway).

I've been trying to find information about the significance of the Nodes overlaying Houses in synastry. Apart from a few general sentences on the subject, all I was able to dig up was this article online from 2013 by Nadia Gilchrest:

"In synastry, contacts to the natal South Node indicate each person’s involvement in the other’s past, and contacts to the North Node describe the role they can play in the future. This is usually analyzed in the context of person A’s planet aspecting person B’s Node. However, Nodal overlays to the houses are not discussed as often. These overlays are significant, but only under certain conditions.

The natal South Node represents past life, and comfortable (but limiting) habits in this life. Too much emphasis on the South Node can result in stagnation. This is where the North Node comes in; it marks the path that a person can take to evolve beyond their South Node, and reach their full potential. The Nodes function differently than planets. They are markers along the path that stretches from a person’s past to their future. They are not planetary energy. If your partner’s South Node falls in your 7th House, it won’t activate that house, and you may feel nothing.

However, there are circumstances where you will feel the impact of someone’s Nodes in your houses:

- if their Nodes conjunct or square one of your natal planets
- if their Nodes conjunct your angles (the cusps of your 1st, 7th, 4th or 10th Houses)

When someone’s North or South Node is activated by your planets or angles, the Node person’s experience of their past and/or future will be directly tied to you. You’ll feel this in the context of the house (in your chart) that their Node falls in."

Can anyone elaborate more on this or offer any insight based on what they've seen? I'm very curious to learn more.

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posted August 19, 2015 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read that Mars conjunct SN indicates a past life romance that you feel the need to pick up and start again. Also Moon with SN is past life related.

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posted August 19, 2015 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks GypseeWind

I've read something similar about planets in aspect to the SN. Taking it one step further, I'm curious what role the House that another's node overlays might play in that equation.

Maybe an example will help?

A's 4H NN:
Squares B's Sun (1 degree)
Conjuncts B's Moon (1 degree)
Overlays B's 7H

B's 10H NN:
Squares A's Venus (1 degree)
Overlays A's 8H

Any ideas?

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posted August 19, 2015 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
I've read that Mars conjunct SN indicates a past life romance that you feel the need to pick up and start again. Also Moon with SN is past life related.

who do you think feels the need to pick it up again? SN or mars?

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posted August 19, 2015 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
who do you think feels the need to pick it up again? SN or mars?

Hi
I'm the Mars person and I feel I'm more interested.
Hope it helps
The SN person is a bit freaked out.

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posted August 19, 2015 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm the SN person and I feel like I'm more interested, but perhaps bc I'm female, I show it more. Also his NN is conj my Moon/Mars

To fromvenus, in your question I'm thinking both, bc the 4th house is sensitive, being the IC, and so is the Moon (sensitive)

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posted August 19, 2015 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Former fiance has Leo NN on my ASC/Aqua SN on my DESC. Glorious feeling of love together. After two months of intimate contact, she proposed marriage: and I immediately accepted!

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posted August 19, 2015 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all your responses everyone.

Sorry guys, maybe I'm not being clear. I'm not talking about planets/angles in contact with the NN or SN. There is a wealth of information already on LL as well as on the internet about these contacts; what they might mean for the relationship as well as how it's "felt".

What I'm hoping to get into with this thread is what someone ELSE'S node does when it falls into a partner's HOUSE in a synastry comparison. Based on the article I referenced in the OP, the nodes won't always activate the House they fall into, but if they make significant contacts to a planet or angle, that node is then able to activate a partner's House. My question is basically "What happens after that?"

In my example, B's NN falls into A's 8H. B's NN makes a significant (according to the article) aspect to A's Venus, so it's now able to activate A's 8H. How would this be felt? Would B feel that intimacy between the two furthers his soul development in this life? Does this provide more information about the circumstances of a possible past life connection between these two?

Hope that makes sense

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posted August 19, 2015 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
I've read that Mars conjunct SN indicates a past life romance that you feel the need to pick up and start again. Also Moon with SN is past life related.

Really? With no influence from VENUS? I've not found this. In the case of just MARS/SNODE, these have been my 'brothers in arms', as well as those who were literally fighting for the other side.

I've found it's an alternate lifeline war that is being brought into the present with circumstances that allow for its resolution.

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posted August 19, 2015 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Auby, that's info I've found. I'll post links in a new thread so as to not derail this post.

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posted August 19, 2015 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
Yes, Auby, that's info I've found. I'll post links in a new thread so as to not derail this post.

That would be great. I've not found that to be my experience, or in any of the charts I've researched. Though, I suspect that VENUS in relation to the SNODE, either independently, or even in the natal, could be a confounding variable, confusing the results.

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posted August 19, 2015 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, thanks GypseeWind

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posted August 21, 2015 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 08, 2015 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping

So his NN is in my 4th -> his future path is tied to my soul or establishing a home/family with me?
(My Sun, Merc, Mars and POF are in his 4th too.)

And if my NN is in his 12th -> My future path is tied to his spiritual evolution?

Hmmmm this 12th house is tricky here.

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posted November 16, 2015 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
Found an old thread on this in the Astrology section and thought I'd try to get a new conversation started over on this side of the forum (since it's more of an IA question anyway).

I've been trying to find information about the significance of the Nodes overlaying Houses in synastry. Apart from a few general sentences on the subject, all I was able to dig up was this article online from 2013 by Nadia Gilchrest:

"In synastry, contacts to the natal South Node indicate each person’s involvement in the other’s past, and contacts to the North Node describe the role they can play in the future. This is usually analyzed in the context of person A’s planet aspecting person B’s Node. However, Nodal overlays to the houses are not discussed as often. These overlays are significant, but only under certain conditions.

The natal South Node represents past life, and comfortable (but limiting) habits in this life. Too much emphasis on the South Node can result in stagnation. This is where the North Node comes in; it marks the path that a person can take to evolve beyond their South Node, and reach their full potential. The Nodes function differently than planets. They are markers along the path that stretches from a person’s past to their future. They are not planetary energy. If your partner’s South Node falls in your 7th House, it won’t activate that house, and you may feel nothing.

However, there are circumstances where you will feel the impact of someone’s Nodes in your houses:

- if their Nodes conjunct or square one of your natal planets
- if their Nodes conjunct your angles (the cusps of your 1st, 7th, 4th or 10th Houses)

When someone’s North or South Node is activated by your planets or angles, the Node person’s experience of their past and/or future will be directly tied to you. You’ll feel this in the context of the house (in your chart) that their Node falls in."

Can anyone elaborate more on this or offer any insight based on what they've seen? I'm very curious to learn more.


This is interesting, I'm trying to figure out what someone's sn in my 4th house ment?

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posted November 16, 2015 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems to me that house overlays of the nodes is considered very important in Vedic compatibility analysis, given that during a compatibility reading I had with Shyamasundara Dasa one of the major undesirable factors he cited was my ex-partner's North Node in my 8th house. He didn't extrapolate and as it was a recorded reading I wasn't able to inquire more deeply but I believe he referred to financial issues for me as a result of this overlay.

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posted December 06, 2015 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 29, 2018 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I couldn't find anything specific about NN in 8th synastry.
I have it DW and my Venus is conjunct with his.

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posted May 29, 2018 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocketrocket:
I couldn't find anything specific about NN in 8th synastry.
I have it DW and my Venus is conjunct with his.

And you are not going to find anything about this in a web search. Everyone thinks they know what is meant by nodal connections, but I do think that very few are aware of these enigmatic interactions of energy. They, I believe, are just out of our reach to really know what is meant by there our natal presence and our relationships. We think we can put our finger on it, but then, wait, something happens that was not expected leaving us to ponder why for whatever reason.

I believe the nodes are predictable, yet unpredictable at the same time if that makes sense. I feel like there is a part of their placement that can be expected, but there is always a curve ball. I've been studying the nodes for quite a while now, and I believe that we are given what they promise by placement either natally or through synastry, that causes us to expect what will happen, but throws a wrench in it so to speak.this axis is on a totally different plane...one that we cannot predict so easily, yet one we desire to understand so deeply for our own benefit.

My take on it to this point, is it a portal of faith. Similar to believing in a higher power, but maybe not if you are not so inclined. Nonetheless, it is a mysterious energy focal point that will affect us, but we can't really fully grasp the meaning behind it.

I believe it is a point of pure trust. Think about that. Have you 100% trusted a gut feeling...it's complex and I really do think no one has a firm grasp on this energy. It is the ultimate puzzle piece that we come back to time and time again.

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posted May 30, 2018 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree.. NN is highly sensitive spot, but it is a true wisdom to even define it.
I strongly feel my nodes.
The hard part is how to relate with deepest soul urge and live with that.
They are our Dharma and nucleus our beings.
The nord itself reveals to us in time and if we work on our awakening in order to understand that energy.
Like you've said it is a quite complex part of our beings.

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posted May 30, 2018 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree!

My north node falls in my boyfriend’s first house,
BUT it squares his MC literally 2 seconds from exact.

My NN also squares his Moon and Mars.

It’s crazy you mentioned my past/ and or present experience will be directly tied to the planet person.

That’s exactly what I described to him awhile ago. It feels like I entered an entire new world when I met him. One door closed and another opened. My eyes were opened.

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