posted September 16, 2015 10:44 AM            

In synastry we have Venus square Mars.

However, when manifested into a relationship (the composite) it becomes a Venus sextile Mars.

Going by interpretations, there are appear to be vast differences between the two, with many stating to be very wary of the square, and that the sextile is preferable.

So, I guess I am wondering, how can I understand these apparently opposing influences. Can the stress of the square lead to harmony somehow? If so, how?

posted September 16, 2015 10:50 AM              

Do you have a DW, even with a minor? this sextile makes me think you might have.

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posted September 16, 2015 11:51 AM              

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posted September 16, 2015 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
So, I know Venus/Mars have been talked about endlessly, but I have a question of how it can manifest from a difficult synastry to an easy composite - how does this work/what does it mean?

In synastry we have Venus square Mars.

However, when manifested into a relationship (the composite) it becomes a Venus sextile Mars.

Going by interpretations, there are appear to be vast differences between the two, with many stating to be very wary of the square, and that the sextile is preferable.

So, I guess I am wondering, how can I understand these apparently opposing influences. Can the stress of the square lead to harmony somehow? If so, how?

Not sure if it's relevant, but I have the square natally also.

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Astrology is dynamic and nothing stays the same.

A Venus sq Mars in nSynastry will become either a trine or sextile in pSynastry. So because...

After a separating square, Aries-Cancer, comes the separating trine, Aries-Leo. Also, after the applying square, Aries-Capricorn, comes the applying sextile, Aries-Aquarius.

posted September 16, 2015 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Honestly, the Venus Mars sq in the synastry is a rather great aspect, if properly placed. It would give for strong sexual attraction and interaction, if this is a romantic synastry. Sex is a form of friction and vigorous activity anyway and this square perfectly describes it; it can bring a lot of freshness and dynamics into this area; sometimes it gets a bit too intense or too physical (squares are very physical, action oriented aspects), but if there are more gentle influences in there, it's a considerable plus.

Do you have a DW, even with a minor? this sextile makes me think you might have.

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love your take on it Leeloo!

What about venus sq venus where there's lots of other good stuff going on?

posted September 17, 2015 06:31 AM              

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Originally posted by EmGem:
love your take on it Leeloo!

What about venus sq venus where there's lots of other good stuff going on?

edit: good to know semi-sextiles are worth talking about lol

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Thank you An aspect between Venuses is not bad, no matter the aspect. Of course, it is a bit different from Venus Mars which is a yin/yang pair. However, it can make people affectionate with each other, wanting to please each other, their Venuses would be mutually activated and they also share communalities in their likes, dislikes, tastes, values and so on.

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posted September 17, 2015 06:36 AM              

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Thank you for another very informative response Leeloo - I can only hope to learn this much about astrology!

We do very much have a yin/yang feel with each other. I am more feminine with him than without, and he more masculine. Opposite to how we were previously, well, let's say our respective femininity and masculinity was well-hidden/protected. This relationship has made our underbellies safe to be revealed.

Anyway, I won't bore you with details!

I checked for other semi-sextiles, seems we have quite a few under 3 degrees: Moon/Uranus, Mercury/Moon, Venus/Mercury, Venus/Mars, Jupiter/Neptune, Jupiter/BML, Neptune/Jupiter, BML/NN.

What size of orb would you recommend for the semi-sextile?
I would like to look into these further, I never considered them as important before, but they may hold the key to why a seemingly unremarkable and unstable synastry, is so strong IRL.

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The orb for this one is tight (max 2) that's what makes them interesting and one of a kind between two people (like all the other tight orb aspects, in fact, such as the esoteric aspects). It's also an important part of a potential Yod, or just a 6th/12th harmonic triangle when there's a planet on the mdp of a sextile. They can be a first clue to some interesting geometry going on in there when it comes to 6th harmonic.

I had a thread about it:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/227029.html

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posted September 17, 2015 07:21 AM              

interesting that you mention the semisextile.
It`s not really being payed so much attention to usually.

however I noticed that the semisextile often coincides with simultaneous parallels as well, just like the conjunction, though this might be just if it is close to the 00° of cardinal signs.
not sure if this is true, too, if planets are semisextile between 15 Cancer and 15 Leo for example.

posted September 17, 2015 07:44 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

interesting that you mention the semisextile.
It`s not really being payed so much attention to usually.

however I noticed that the semisextile often coincides with simultaneous parallels as well, just like the conjunction, though this might be just if it is close to the 00° of cardinal signs.
not sure if this is true, too, if planets are semisextile between 15 Cancer and 15 Leo for example.

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posted September 17, 2015 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Thank you An aspect between Venuses is not bad, no matter the aspect. Of course, it is a bit different from Venus Mars which is a yin/yang pair. However, it can make people affectionate with each other, wanting to please each other, their Venuses would be mutually activated and they also share communalities in their likes, dislikes, tastes, values and so on.

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Thanks leeloo wow that's so good to know. I always thought Venus square Venus meant they have really different likes and dislikes.

posted September 17, 2015 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Astrology is dynamic and nothing stays the same.

A Venus sq Mars in nSynastry will become either a trine or sextile in pSynastry. So because...

After a separating square, Aries-Cancer, comes the separating trine, Aries-Leo. Also, after the applying square, Aries-Capricorn, comes the applying sextile, Aries-Aquarius.

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Thank you Nine.

It was from synastry to composite though, not progressed synastry.

posted September 17, 2015 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The orb for this one is tight (max 2) that's what makes them interesting and one of a kind between two people (like all the other tight orb aspects, in fact, such as the esoteric aspects). It's also an important part of a potential Yod, or just a 6th/12th harmonic triangle when there's a planet on the mdp of a sextile. They can be a first clue to some interesting geometry going on in there when it comes to 6th harmonic.

I had a thread about it:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/227029.html

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posted September 17, 2015 01:39 PM            

I will have to think on these.

Any ideas for the Lilith/NN?

posted September 17, 2015 01:45 PM            

I can see how this would keep couples together - if there is no growth or stimulation, then why bother?

posted September 19, 2015 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
^ that is so true.

My parents had the Venus/Mars square, pretty exact also. Dad's Venus / Mom's Mars.
They already knew each other for some time/years -living in the same residence- before they really hooked up together and when the spark caught on. And that was exactly when Dad's pVenus was applying by 1 deg to Mom's natal Mars. A TRINE! His pVenus also applying to her pSun in a trine by 3/4 deg at that time, an upcoming blessing for yearssss. Which, ofcourse, I can only confirm.

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