posted October 24, 2015 06:33 AM
"Am I understanding it correctly that you're saying that sesqui square angle is normally a minor aspect, but can be a major one depending on the planets and signs?"Sesquisquare is a minor angle, belonging to the 8th harmonic.
The major aspects are the ptolemaic aspects, conjunction, opposition,s quare, trine and sextile.
Some treat the quinkunx as major aspect, but it is NOT a ptolemaic aspect.
This is how astrological tradition defines major aspects, but there are different approaches.
Of the minor aspects the 8th harmonic ones (semisquare and sesisqurae) as well as the 5th harmonic ones (quintile and biquintile) get more attention and in some cases almost major-aspect-status.
I suppose the jury is out on these.
However, I am coming from an angle where I pay a lot of attention to "natural phases" and paying much attention to the lunar phases for example, as basis for aspectual relations.
In this respect I noticed that in synastry people often come together when they had important lunar phases in progressions. If you put those together for a composite though, it can happen that they show up as an 8th harmonic aspect, as happened for my brother and his girlfriend.
his gf was having an applying waxing square between her pSun and pMoon.
he was having a separating opposition between his pSun and pMoon.
Which actually was a reversal of each natal lunar phase (my brother has a waxing square between Sun and Moon in his natal, his gf has the opposition).
In the composite that combined to form a sesisquare between pSun and pMoon.
(because if you put an opposition and square together, you technically speaking, get 180 + 90 = 270°. Since a composite consists of 2 people, you have to divide that by 2, and 270° divided by 2 is 135°, the distance of a sesissquare. The sesisquare is basically the middle ground or midpoint between a square and an opposition).
A lot of technical mathematics here, but honestly speaking, aspects are nothing but mathematic (at least the calculation of aspects, interpretation is of course something else).
Also if you have two planets in a square aspects, the exact position of the semisquare and the sesisquare is actually at the near and far midpoint of both planets, and since midpoints are where the energy of two planets meld together, how can the semisquare and sesisquare not have an effect?
I hope I did not confuse you too much with that now.
"hat does that aspect cause in this case?"
A sesisquare as an isolated aspect causes a little bit of friction/t ension, a spark, a mix of square and opposition, but it might not be strong enough on its own to push you to action, though might give you the feeling that you SHOULD, because you certainly realize there is SOMETHING there, even if it might not be as strongly energized as in a square aspect. (it gives more of a buzz though than a trine or sextile, which are more comforting and comfortable aspects).
"Does it make sense to post them there? I'm using noon as their birth time .. i don't know how accurate this will be and how much it will make sense."
You can post the midpoings, but keep it to:
° 1°30 orb
°c onjunction, opposition and square
° personal planets and angles at the midpoint of someone else`s planets; also personalized planets like the 7th houser ruler of 5th house ruler (even if it should be an oouter aspect) possibly along with planets in 7th house and 5th house, which also have relevance for relationship matters.
To be fair, I dont know how much time I will have to look into it, but maybe someone will.
And I surely will have a peek and if something stands out to me, I will tell you. However, I am not going to be able to do a lenghty analysis.
if you don`t have the birthtime, exclude midpoint-pictures that feature the Moon, ASC, MC and Vertex.
The others will still be valid.
However it is a shame cause those wilth Moon, ASC and MC are THE most important ones in terms of personal interaction.
You still can work with those including Sun, Venus and Mars though, and those will be very personal as well.
"In this case, wouldn't a double whammy be better? i mean if A has an impact on B, but not vice versa .. i think this is very onesided."
Yes, which is one of the strengths of midpoint anylsis, too. You usually can see very clearly how one partner is affected, even if the other is not.
I used to think it is always the one with the midpoint-picture that is most affected, however it does not seem as cut and dried.
In fact I have come to entertain the thought (not having formed my opinion yet) that it possibly is even more important to see WHAT planets are being activated. If someone`s Moon or Venus are touched, the energy might go mutually.
While it is still true, that the midpoint person will be the one initially affected, the planet person might be very receptive to how they affect the midpoint person.
example
his Venus conjunct her Sun/Venus-mp.
She will probably be very affected and affectionate and possibly develop a liking, affintiy or even fall in love (her Sun/Venus) with the way he expresseses himself in relationships or expresses his more romantic side or even artistic side (his Venus).
However when she expresses that feeling of love he activates in her (her Sun/Venus triggered at first), he might actually be very appreciative of that, as his Venus symbolizes what he loves, like, appreciates in a woman.
It`s like he is thinking: "I love (his Venus) how you love me (her Sun/Venus-mp)".
This is espcially true if Venus and Moon are triggering each other`s midpoints as they are more receptive to energies.
While if it was Sun, it could actually be a rather onesided thing. unless of course her Sun was activating romantic midpoints in his chart as well.
"Umm .. i'm not sure what you mean. there's her venus, but i don't think that you're talking about that right?"
Venus? Nope, did not see Venus.
But I realized their composite Mars must be there, so that seems to definitely have been part of the draw. Probably a bit of physical activity pulling them together (including the physical chemistry whenever they interacted).
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