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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 23, 2015 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And especially the bad/non-existing sex?

(this is not a joke)

Any tips and tricks you can share about this composite placement would be appreciated. Stories and comments too.

There's been too much of the bad stuff (death, psychology and addictions) and not enough of the good stuff (look above). I know sex isn't everything but it's important. Imagine a Gray-A having gotten to her wit's end saying that..

Seriously, there HAS to be a way around this. Wait, this is Saturn. Oh crap. I'll just wait here until I'm almost a virgin again. *cries*

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posted September 23, 2015 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it too...not bad at all, quite the contrary...apart for the fact that I am very hard to get with him
But I am usually so, I guess

What is Mars doing in the chart?

I think Saturn in the 8th delays sex, but then makes it committed; or the people don't want to do it unless it's the real deal. The best part of the placement is the sexual commitment/devotion it can bring and an interest that doesn't fade with time.

But I agree it can manifest as a wall in need of climbing - restriction - or even total denial. I would look at Mars, 8th ruler, aspects to Mars, 8th ruler, and this Saturn, of course. Just the placement alone is not doom and gloom.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 23, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? There's good in it? Well, I do hope I get to see it. It's ridiculous, we found it funny for a while, but now it's not. lol

Mars is the comp chart ruler, anaretic in Gemini, in the 3rd, conjunct Mercury, trine Moon and Pluto, square Jupiter, opposite Uranus and Neptune.

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posted September 23, 2015 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No way not to have sex with this over-aspected Mars. And the 8th ruler?

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posted September 23, 2015 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anaretic in Gem conj Mercury in 3rd could be a problem though...too much talking, too much intellectualization. But the other aspects are very promising...can't get better than a soft aspect to Moon, and Pluto, you guys should have had babies by now

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posted September 23, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it's committed and rather strictly so. Serious too. *sigh* TOO serious..

I guess it really brings out the fact that we are both abuse survivors and though we dealt with it in opposite ways, we are now in this together.

It's a nightmare even because we are almost never in the mood at the same time and if we are, then surely something happens to ruin it.

Seriously, HALP!!!

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posted September 23, 2015 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had this with my ex. In our Davison. We rarely had sex. I even tried setting up a calendar so we could have 4 times a week and it never came to be. I was always the initiator, and it was like pulling teeth.

It has got to be something that you express openly, what you need, how you need it, and how often. But both people have to give something, or I believe thats when resentment would start to build. Its not something you can vocalize once and expect it to be at the forefront of the mind. Talk, a lot!

Btw...we had it inconjunct Mars as well.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 23, 2015 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house is in Scorpio.. Pluto is in early Scorpio in the 7th, conjunct Moon aaaand aside from the trine to Mars and generational sextile to Neptune, doesn't do much. Hmph.

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posted September 23, 2015 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, I guess that must come from the heavy T/square...too heavy on Mars, Uranus Jupiter Neptune in the same spot ...this is where I would look for an explanation. But of course it is workable...such a huge energy...maybe it gets internalized because of heavy Gem?

I think you should plan it (take advantage of Saturn); make it like a map, a treasure hunt. Play those 3 planets.

EDIT: Nah, that's a great 8th house.

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posted September 23, 2015 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4 times a week???

Make that 4 times in.. a very long time!! Probably the whole relationship. *cries with hiccups*

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posted September 23, 2015 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DM, I think it's also his health, isn't it? Maybe it's too much effort for him

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posted September 23, 2015 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, we do talk a lot. We're very affectionate too. There's intimacy (the real kind), but no.. sex. lol I find it amusing that it bothers me because I really don't need it that much (despite the Aries Mars opp Pluto). I don't know.. I didn't have the richest sex life in history (very, very far from), but this hasn't happened before. To either of us!

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posted September 23, 2015 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it's also his health (though it wasn't a problem with his exes), and my exhaustion from work. But really, we could do better! I know we could!

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posted September 23, 2015 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is... the no sex composite.

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posted September 23, 2015 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think there are babies in this composite Sun rules the 5th.

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posted September 23, 2015 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
And especially the bad/non-existing sex?

(this is not a joke)

Any tips and tricks you can share about this composite placement would be appreciated. Stories and comments too.

There's been too much of the bad stuff (death, psychology and addictions) and not enough of the good stuff (look above). I know sex isn't everything but it's important. Imagine a Gray-A having gotten to her wit's end saying that..

Seriously, there HAS to be a way around this. Wait, this is Saturn. Oh crap. I'll just wait here until I'm almost a virgin again. *cries*


Lol I know how you feel, I have it with my husband...constantly losing my virginity here...

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posted September 23, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Lol I know how you feel, I have it with my husband...constantly losing my virginity here...

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posted September 23, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see the intimacy and closeness with Venus on IC and Moon/Pluto in the 7th.

Mars is problematic in this chart tbh. It is marginal, those aspects are wide for a composite, and 2 of them are OOS. Its valid aspect is in fact the Mercury conj. Only if it's a luminary, I think such wider aspects could work. EDIT: the one with the Moon/Pluto probably does.
The sextile is rather intelectuallized, into the platonic a little bit, with Neptune in the 9th 12th ruler. And Saturn rx sits on the mdp of this sextile. It can either prevent the manifestation of the sextile into the 8th, saying: you shall not pass OR it can manifest there IF that Saturn is consciously activated by someone or both (conscious effort)
Saturn rules MC, it's about taking conscious control of the relationship; it may decide the future of this relationship, this mdp configuration in the 8th.

Anyone has anything on that Saturn in the natal chart?

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posted September 23, 2015 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's quite interesting and strange....how that Mars is still in Gem, and all those goodies waiting for him on the other side.

This is the clue, and then the sextile. Imagine Saturn on Moon/Neptune mdp...and then Moon/Pluto Neptune mdp. It's a or or...but like with every Saturn, it calls for direct personal involvement and effort. With this chart, this part won't happen by itself...hence the opp from the Sun

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posted September 23, 2015 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, I feel like he's my best friend. I always thought that's something good to have in a relationship. Apparently, not always.

I have not checked midpoints. I think this is the first time since we've been together that I am really looking at the charts. There was never any time. Sounds serious, the Saturn on MP.

I treasure the good things. They are so, so very precious to me. I love what we have. But we also have to improve certain things (among others, that), or I'm just not sure if this has a future. It's great for growth, great for healing, but not sure it can be sustained for a long period of time.

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posted September 23, 2015 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's quite interesting and strange....how that Mars is still in Gem, and all those goodies waiting for him on the other side.

This is the clue, and then the sextile. Imagine Saturn on Moon/Neptune mdp...and then Moon/Pluto Neptune mdp. It's a or or...but like with every Saturn, it calls for direct personal involvement and effort. With this chart, this part won't happen by itself...hence the opp from the Sun


I understand what you said here. I just... wish it wasn't all such a struggle. Sex/intimacy are not my strongest points. Indeed, it's high time I made a more vigorous effort, for myself and us. But I'm going through such a hard time right now, sometimes I only have time for a phone call to hear his voice. I don't know anymore. Sometimes I feel like there's no more fight left in me. My mom died, I lost my job, tomorrow I will find out if my aunt has breast cancer (my mom's sister). I guess I feel like I'd like at least something to work without so much godamn effort. I'm mad at Saturn. But maybe we'll get a break during composite Saturn return. Or doesn't it work that way? With my luck lately..

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posted September 23, 2015 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I understand what you said here. I just... wish it wasn't all such a struggle. Sex/intimacy are not my strongest points. Indeed, it's high time I made a more vigorous effort, for myself and us. But I'm going through such a hard time right now, sometimes I only have time for a phone call to hear his voice. I don't know anymore. Sometimes I feel like there's no more fight left in me. My mom died, I lost my job, tomorrow I will find out if my aunt has breast cancer (my mom's sister). I guess I feel like I'd like at least something to work without so much godamn effort. I'm mad at Saturn. But maybe we'll get a break during composite Saturn return. Or doesn't it work that way? With my luck lately..

Yes, it could get activated and solved

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posted September 23, 2015 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fingers crossed..

I do want for this to work, more than anything.

Night night, LeeLoo! Thank you for taking a look!

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posted September 23, 2015 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Fingers crossed..

I do want for this to work, more than anything.

Night night, LeeLoo! Thank you for taking a look!


Sweet dreams, babe!

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posted September 23, 2015 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep. Just racking up the weeks over here.

Last one was 3 months. Hope we're not looking to break our record this time.

It gets ... old.

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