posted September 28, 2015 12:27 AM            

A method to visualize this concept is to draw a "natural" chart, i.e.: a chart having 0 Aries rising and 0 Capricorn on the MC. Then draw lines parallel to the Aries-Libra axis.

A planet in Aries will correspond to Virgo, Libra = Pisces Taurus will correspond to Leo, Scorpio=Aquarius Gemini will correspond to Cancer, Sagittarius=Capricorn

posted September 28, 2015 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

It feels like "the line that separates good and evil cuts through every human heart"

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posted September 28, 2015 01:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Wow! That's crazy. How cool. I've never met another ALMA-JUNO-SATURN.

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I also have my Part of Fortune right there in the cluster.

my estranged husband also has an exact Juno-Alma-Karma conjunction in Libra, smack on my Venus.

posted September 28, 2015 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
This reminds me of a powerful thought from Plato's "The Republic"...
"There is in every one of us, even those who seem to be most moderate, a type of desire that is terrible, and wild, and lawless.”

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Very true, feelings even the "negative" ones exist for a reason and we ALL experience them.

posted September 28, 2015 02:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Neptune29:
Yes, my Venus is exactly the antiscia of his mars plus my Venus trines his mars 1d and it is also parallel his mars.

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That we do have. (My VENUS the antiscion of his MARS.) But that's not in relation to these asteroid numbers. So we don't need to discuss them here. There are other threads.

Then I'm respectfully taking my leave of this thread. I do not feel heard; I'm not even offered due respect. I'm outright mocked and attacked. That alone should tell you guys something. But you're instead acting so ... defensive. You're defending something that I've already told you is not bloody right. And how often do I take a stance like this? That should tell you something.

posted September 28, 2015 02:54 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
There is ton of information all over the web about 111111 frequencies and how it is associated to the power of manifestation if you associate it with mind control then that is how it will manifest for you. IQ already told you something that was not true that you believed against your own instincts, he is human, I love his input but always take it with a grain of salt and then see if it matches my own observations and is aligned with my instincts. I would never give a number power over me in such a negative way by choosing to associate it to mind control, that is the true danger. That kind of thinking creates fear and is fear mongering and I am free if it!

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posted September 28, 2015 03:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
And it's already manifested some really terrible things in this thread.

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YOU have manifested that, you are turning this thread about you and your perception of 111111 which is very negative and disregarding my reason for starting the thread and me completely, if you want to talk about mind control please start a separate thread, you DONT want to hear us but you say we are the ones that are not hearing you:

To begin, 11 is the master psychic’s number, and focuses on intuition, spiritual truth, ideals and being a conduit for high vibration energy and insights. It’s not about being risky, reckless or even speculative; in fact, it’s the opposite. It’s making choices and decisions from a deep knowingness that transcends the surface ‘look’ of a situation, circumstances or relationship.

When you (or any of us) operate from that deep inner place, you are following your unique insights, which is the only place to enhance our true creativity. Looking for the short, obvious answers stunts our growth, the remedy of which is to know what we know and be responsible for it.
The primary energy of 11:11:11 is (naturally enough) 1 energy, which is about leadership, new beginnings, fresh starts, pioneering, independence, self-awareness, consciousness, leading your own life and taking care of your own needs; however, the shadow side of 1 energy includes being selfish, arrogant, aggressive, egotistical and lacking tact.

The 1 + 1 energy of 11 is the number of connection – if you know that 1 + 1 equals two, but it doesn’t feeeeel right, it’s a sign that you’ve overlooked some details and your intuition is talking to you to help you connect the dots.

The 11.11 energy invites being fully accountable for your actions and how you are living your life from an evolved perspective. When not fully expressed, the shadow energy of 11 is living in fantasy, instability, paranoia, un-balanced, ignorant, manipulative, with an irrational fear of change and self-sabotage.

It’s a powerful number that can offer clarity or delusion, depending on how you relate to it.
The 11 energy helps us to see things from different perspectives – even the 11 (when laid sideways) becomes an equal sign (=).

And 11 is made up of two 1s, symbolizing humanity by the 1 looking at itself (think 1:1 with the colon as the mirror). The 11 energy represents both the one person but also the ‘we’ that is formed by two. It is the individual reflecting on oneself at a deep level (not just the surface image) to grow into self-acceptance and more full contribution to the whole.

11:11:11 (the date today) adds up to the number 6, which is the number of domestic responsibilities, home, family, stability, accountability and balance. The 6 energy teaches how to make the ‘right’ decisions, to rise above small-mindedness and to see the hidden aspects of your priorities and decisions – they have to go beyond your own interests to include your “family” (whether biological or chosen).

There aren’t any quick fixes in the six vibration; instead, it’s about patience and taking time to let things grow (as we do with children).

In this energy, you are the parent – to shepherd positive growth, to teach, be a good role model, and be fully expressed from the inside out – for yourself and the people in your world. This may require some healing from the inside out too, which means letting go of that which you know no longer serves you emotionally, physically, intellectually, energetically, spiritually. This is the time to release those old patterns and heal, as the power of profound insights supports your change.

May you discover your insights and illuminated path for yourself and your business by using the 11:11:11 energy today and beyond.

posted September 28, 2015 03:41 AM            

When I put my foot down earlier today, it was not from a place of ego, but my higher self. I'm disgusted; day in and day out, what humanity thinks passes for true love. I myself have been on a hell of a journey, and I will not tolerate disrespect for human mistakes made along the way.

I'm so tired of the subject. Everyone thinks their soulmate is their bloody twin; just because of some psychic experiences and falling deeply in love. Forgive me, but that drives me insane. All the damned time. All of the people I want to tell, straight-out, no, they aren't. I wished someone had the foresight to tell me the same. But, no, this is a journey taken solo. It's once you've actually found your twin that you then begin a whole new journey together.

And to think that some conjunction from an asteroid of repeating numbers to another asteroid comprised of repeating numbers is in any way going to tell you that? It's infuriating. Please, have some respect. Don't you understand how much of a mockery that appears to someone like me? Someone who is living their life and leading by example? Who has now become a true twin flame?

Allow me to express my genuine ire at the situation, because I am otherwise a deeply evolved person, who does so from a place of high consciousness that I can't even begin to describe it. And that is the reason why I question whether 95% have actually truly 'found their twin flame' as they claim so ardently. I don't honestly notice them leading very evolved lives. I don't notice the change within them -- the profound soul-level transformation when one learns to embody a facet of the divine, whether masculine, feminine, or both.

This is a rare moment of true fury you'll see from me, because that isn't my life, or the experiences I have. Sadness? Sure. Sometimes, when I'm misguided and trying to make my relationship fit a more traditional framework, I'll become disheartened. Then I remember that I'm living on a whole new plane of existence now; I'm no longer truly a part of the mundane. I live in service to love, and with a deep connexion to God. I've lost so much fear, and so much anger ... I'm just love.

I used to roll my eyes at the sheer joy that the few twins I have the pleasure to know personally experience. I never understood it. Then, the moment it all clicked for me, when everything came into focus ... it was so beautiful. So exceptional.

Do I believe that everyone can have this experience? Yes! I would love for them to do so! Do I believe that they are? No. Absolutely not. I know when someone is and isn't. And, I have to ask; why are there so many people bemoaning the 'loss of their twin flame' ? Don't they realise the very, very high likelihood that this was a special, powerful soulmate that has touched their lives in an incredible way, allowing them to experience the profound depth of love?

Don't they realise that's NOT the purpose of twin flames? That it's NOT about you -- or your relationship?

For the past few days, I've been helping my husband and his girlfriend through some relationship issues. She told me that she wished that I had someone in my life to be there for me the way that I am for her, and so many others. It touched me so deeply; brought me to tears, to be able to have shown her so much love -- to be helping her to find greater happiness.

I explained it to her the way that I see it: a giant, glowing mandala, in which I'm the centre, holding the sacred space, so that all of its many legs are vibrating with love -- each sustaining the other, forming a powerful, connected energy.

And, in that centre, right beside me, is my twin. Keeping me sane by being a silent, still voice, and holding the centre all on his own, for his own purpose. We do this by each being in service to love, civility, and aiding in the creation and realisation of others' dreams. We do this by operating on a different level. We don't do it for each other, we do it, because we have become the very nature and essence of love!

It took me awhile to realise this -- to truly understand and appreciate this -- but now that I have, everything about me has changed. I am not who I was. I am who I was always meant to be, and who I have strived to become. My husband was saying tonight how much he loves 'this version' of me. I told him there is no other version; it's just me now, living as an example of true love: for him, for my twin, for my husband's girlfriend, for my family, for my friends, for everyone here on the forum, for those whom I've not even met yet. My millions and billions of brothers and sisters, who are spokes on this brilliant wheel; legs on this incredible mandala.

It's so much bigger than me. It's so much bigger than you. It's bigger than ALL that we think it is.

It's bigger than relating mere numbers to a concept that goes beyond mere numbers. I'm not sure how we can determine twin flames through astrology anymore. I'm truly not. Everything has changed for me.

I do feel that it could be possible, but we don't have that yet. And trying to use these mundane methods and means to encompass something which is literally woven into the fabric of the multiverse ... of ALL existence ....

No. Just, no. Respectfully, no.

posted September 28, 2015 03:46 AM            

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Please don't get hurt Auby.. I don't thik so there can be fixed markers for TF connection in astrology. This connection is very very special and the charts also has to be very very special just at one glance. This is very subjective. I think the charts should be compatible not necessarily in positive aspects. I mean what one is lacking the other should fill in.this is really very very subjective. We are chasing TF concept in vain..we are spoiling our current soul mate relationships by tagging it as suspected TF or TF.
Your boyfriend might be your true TF but this might not be your last incarnation on earth and hence the charts are not showing direct indication.
I think let us not run behind TF fantasies if it is true let the universe unfold it.
I was also very restless to get assured of my connection with him as TF.
Bu after reading these posts I concluded that if he is my TF, truth will show up irrespective of our beliefs.. So I am at peace now..
Here a quote by Rumi is popping up in my mind..Let the water settle and you will see the stars and moon mirrored in your being..

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I can honestly say that I agree with every word that you've said, Neptune. I appreciate your understanding. I truly do. I'm not used to having so much emotion, but it's become a part of me in recent months. As if a deep part of me has been asleep for so, so very long, and is finally awakened.

I have been wondering if the confounding variable may be karma. I think that the astrology of twins is going to be variable in and of itself as well, but there may be the mere factor that a major karma to resolve is gumming up the works, as it were; confusing things. The astrology with my twin is very indicative of the karma we have. But that may be because it's rooted in unconditional love, and the means by which we harm each other when in service to ego, and ideals that are not rooted in love. The war of one's principles -- even when it's fighting for justice -- against something as powerful as love. These are the themes of our karma, and they are very active -- astrologically-speaking.

posted September 28, 2015 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's exactly what I thought.

Oh, dear. Guys ... I think it's time we brace ourselves for a major impact today. My mother's been feeling something coming on, and I just started really getting a tinge of it last night.

Hold your centre. Shut down all influences around you no matter HOW tempting they might be.

'They are programming the cube' for lack of better explanation. Know your heart. Know your soul. Don't trust any 'synchronicities' today. The eclipse must pass.

This is gonna be a rough transition.

Gah. 11:11.

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Aubyanne, I do feel quite insulted now. Bearing in mind this did seem to stem from my comment on 29. I nowhere near think numbers are proof. Proof is the experience and I'm not going to categorically say I have a TF or that I haven't been brainwashed. i dont wish to talk about my experience and justify the possibility of either. And I respect your opinion fully, out of people on this thread except Ceridwen from scanning the thread, I'm one of the few who was listening.

posted September 28, 2015 04:47 AM            

It wasn't a bit about you; please don't feel the least bit insulted. This has been building for some time. This thread was merely the straw that broke it for me today. I can't say there's anything which you've done directly.

There's a very fierce energy in this eclipse. Much has been stirred. I know it's illuminating and affecting quite a lot deeply within me.

Could you tell me what it is you've interpreted as my having offended you? It was never my intention. Most of my ire isn't even regarding anyone on these forums. It's merely the place where I'd just had enough of a certain experience.

I invite you to write me anytime you'd like to, and I'm so sorry to hear that you're unregistering. Is there nothing I could do to help the situation? Perhaps we're all a bit tired and worn from a great many things, and we all need to breathe.

posted September 28, 2015 04:59 AM            

Anyway .. Ii think it's worth discussing all possibilities of these numbers and personally your contributions on this are valuable to me even if I have those digits placed surprisingly significantly (because I don't often think it's straight-forward with my charts so far). Actually, one R/ship that I don't consider a twin-flame but that can't understate the impact it had on me, does have those numbers in a significant place too.

I'm unregistering just because I need to focus on other things and I've been trying to stop joining in discussions but I cant - so it's for mere precautions.

I'll save your email - thank you. It could be some time from now or never as I'm not a great corresponder but I do have a lot I'd like to discuss. Likewise if you don't respond for some time or never that'd be ok too.

posted September 28, 2015 05:03 AM            

Oddly enough, I do find myself operating according to my Draco then: at least the early Cancer dMOON with Aries rising. It's as if I feel so deeply, that the pain is too powerful. One of my twin's greatest present missions (self-identified) is to draw attention to those forces which legitimately seek to delude, misinform, and deceive. I don't mean supernatural or spiritual forces, either. Typically, companies, governments, and commercial ventures -- including for-profit religious institutions and doctrines.

Lately, as he's slowly come into truly expressing himself, I'm not having to do so quite as much. But that's a topic about which he is very passionate, and, to an extent, I am as well. I certainly didn't mean to cause such upset. I don't want to see any of us fall prey to deception, either. Least of all, the deception that comes from our own delusional desire. I had that myself; I didn't know what I was experiencing, so I lacked proper discernment.

posted September 28, 2015 05:08 AM            

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I really do apologise, everyone. It isn't easy when I get a bit 'overcome' by the dictates of my higher self. Typically, I can live quite peacefully and balanced with everything working in tandem; that which is my ego and personality, and what is my soul and higher self. Though my soul is literally my pilot these days, there are times it's unbearably strong. I tend to become very forceful, and emotionally driven.

Oddly enough, I do find myself operating according to my Draco then: at least the early Cancer dMOON with Aries rising. It's as if I feel so deeply, that the pain is too powerful. One of my twin's greatest present missions (self-identified) is to draw attention to those forces which legitimately seek to delude, misinform, and deceive. I don't mean supernatural or spiritual forces, either. Typically, companies, governments, and commercial ventures -- including for-profit religious institutions and doctrines.

Lately, as he's slowly come into truly expressing himself, I'm not having to do so quite as much. But that's a topic about which he is very passionate, and, to an extent, I am as well. I certainly didn't mean to cause such upset. I don't want to see any of us fall prey to deception, either. Least of all, the deception that comes from our own delusional desire. I had that myself; I didn't know what I was experiencing, so I lacked proper discernment.

And, most of all, I try to provide that as best as I can, so that others may avoid what were my tricky pitfalls.

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posted September 28, 2015 05:13 AM            

I understand if you need to take a break. We all do sometimes. But I'd be delighted to keep up and stay in touch. Even if I'm also not the best correspondent, either, in terms of immediacy.

posted September 28, 2015 05:20 AM            

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Don't worry about me with that - well, I am susceptible (kaali on desc and other things) but, I'm highly paranoid. but thank you for that concern and you may have actually picked up - some how - on my fears with your post even if it wasn't directed at me

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posted September 28, 2015 05:22 AM            

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Thank you. I do have a feeling i could email one day and normally I'm lying when I say I'll keep in touch

be well <3

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Hah! Me, too. And, likewise to all of the above.

posted September 28, 2015 09:39 AM            

If Nessus can be a TF issue/release and Priapus/Lilith can be a TF issue, in the way that they create issues that bring about work that causes energetic growth for both...then anything bad can also be used for good because both qualities are there. I don't doubt these asteroids can have a relation to mind control, just like Kaali's energy can be used for mind control, as iQ has made threads about this. But iQ has also shown how Kaali is part of a TF marker.